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infobot1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss05:43
DocScrutinizer05ffs, kornbluth split since 17h05:50
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DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: you're back?05:55
DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: ooh, no Kornbluth in your config, eh?05:57
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ceenewelcome to dependency hell...11:29
ceenei can't develop two things at the same time11:29
ceenebecause having newer libssl installed ends up making yappari compile against that11:29
ceeneso it works on sb2 but not on the phone11:29
ceeneor viceversa11:29
KotCzarnystatic linking? ;)11:30
KotCzarnythat's why oscp is linked statically against helper libs11:30
KotCzarnythings just dont build/work when done on autobuilder/unmodified sb11:31
ceenei'm thinking i need a second sb2 installation just for yappari :/11:31
ceenei won't link all of qt and ssl statically11:31
KotCzarnyjust ssl then?11:32
ceenethat's a mounstruosity i won't do11:32
KotCzarnyit will add ~1-2MB only11:32
ceenedon't care11:32
KotCzarnyotoh you are using ssl via qt, heh11:32
KotCzarnynow i see your point11:32
ceenei'd rather have a good dev env11:32
ceeneyes, that's another thing too11:32
ceenelibaxoltl also uses ssl11:32
KotCzarnywant to take over openssl repo?11:33
ceenethat could all be hellish11:33
WizzupSo if I plug the original headset that comes with the n900, a new input device is created in /dev/input11:33
WizzupWhich is very cute, because pressing the 'button' on the headset fires an event.11:33
WizzupAny clue how I could get that on Linux 4.5+ ?11:33
KotCzarnyhave a driver?11:33
WizzupRight, but I figured it may be part of ALSA.11:34
WizzupI don't know exactly it works on maemo now.11:34
WizzupSo it may be that is already works, but the right alsa switch is not set, etc.11:34
ceeneno, that should be a GPIO, more than probably11:34
WizzupI will experiment a bit more later.11:34
Wizzupceene: On maemo it is a new input device11:34
ceenebut it may be mapped from a gpio11:35
KotCzarnydoesnt it have info which driver is using it?11:35
KotCzarnyit's somewhere in /proc11:35
Wizzupand it emits KEY_PROG111:35
Wizzupceene: maybe, but it is only avail when a headset is plugged in11:35
KotCzarny /proc/bus/input/devices11:35
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Wizzupand I did a cat /dev/input/event*11:36
WizzupAnd nothing fired on mainline11:36
KotCzarnyRX51 (tlv320aic3x) Jack11:37
KotCzarnyand yes, it seems alsa is driving it11:37
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KotCzarnyi wonder how long would it take to build gcc on banana pi11:44
KotCzarnyquestion: if a package requires automake1.11 for example, how to make it pass autobuilder?11:45
WizzupKotCzarny: I usually build gcc on my gentoo lime2's in a few hours11:47
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KotCzarnywizzup, uhum11:48
KotCzarnyPreparing to replace make 3.80-9osso (using make_3.81-5_armel.deb) ...11:48
KotCzarnyforgot about this sucker11:48
KotCzarnyseriously, things in sdk and/or extras repo should get a bump11:49
KotCzarnyand apparently this chroot sdk approach would work fine on n90011:54
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ceenei hate autotools a little bit12:08
ceenewell, once i tried to write something that used them12:08
ceenei decided i shouldn't spend more time learning m4 macros and hellish syntaxes when i could spend that time on my own code12:09
KotCzarnythats why oscp is built with shell scripts12:09
KotCzarnyso i share your pain12:10
KotCzarnyAS      libavcodec/arm/apedsp_neon.o12:10
KotCzarnygcc: Internal error: Segmentation fault (program as)12:10
KotCzarnyfun stuff12:10
ceenei finally found Scons12:12
ceeneit's a build system on python12:12
ceeneit's not like it's perfect12:12
ceenebut at least python is learnable12:12
KotCzarnydrat. i need bigger sd card to build gcc12:15
ceenehow does one build a .deb package as thumb?12:17
KotCzarnychange cflags?12:18
KotCzarnyi think it only requires -mthumb12:18
ceeneno, i think there's an env variable that must be exported12:18
ceenethis thing12:19
ceenebut qt doesn't have that thing on debian/rules12:19
ceeneso i don't know how is it compiled with thumb12:20
ceeneyep, that was it12:20
ceenewell, more or less12:20
WizzupKotCzarny: your attempts to compile on sd cards make me sad12:28
KotCzarnywizzup: as i said, that's what i had in the vicinity when i got the idea12:28
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ceenefinally, i've sent a pull request to disable ssl on qt4.713:45
ceenesome apps that don't work will start magically working13:46
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KotCzarnyapt-get install libpulse-dev18:44
KotCzarny27 newly installed18:44
KotCzarnyfun, isnt it?18:44
KotCzarnyfucker tries to install half of x-dev libs18:45
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KotCzarnyon the positive note, somehow eq/reverb and other sox effects work now18:56
KotCzarnywithout skipping18:56
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DocScrutinizer05HHHMPHHH received my ballot / token mail. It nicely mentions that there's a time limit of 7 days for voting, but - unless I'm blind - it doesn't give away WHEN VOTING PERIOD STARTS21:42
DocScrutinizer05  a tad frustrating21:45
DocScrutinizer05(not the fact that it hasn't started yet, but the fact that you need to click the URL to learn when it starts)21:45
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DocScrutinizer05other than that: kudos to council for managing another vote :-)21:46
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* DocScrutinizer05 realizes there's missing a "what it means to be council" howto, and suggests all recent and particularly former/ex/longtime council members colaborate to draft such howto, listing all the tiny everyday duties abd responsibilities23:02
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DocScrutinizer05so far this knowledge been based on long time community membership and contribution, watching former councils act, and of course by word of mouth from long term council members to new ones. As more and more long term community members are not available for council anymore, we need an alternative for new fresh enthusiastic council candidates to acquire that knowledge23:07
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DocScrutinizer05for a stop-gap I suggest reading all meeting minutes since, dunno 2010? ;-)23:09
fishbulbI need to switch info on phones23:10
fishbulbI flashed one and have to transfer the contents of my n900 to another one23:11
DocScrutinizer05did this half a dozen times now23:13
DocScrutinizer05takes 20 minutes, most of it runtime for the backup/restore23:13
DocScrutinizer05fishbulb: ^^^23:14
fishbulbI'm reading it, thanks23:14
DocScrutinizer05flash new device, install bm, restore from uSD from bm backup of your old device23:15
DocScrutinizer05adjust devicename etc, if needed23:15
DocScrutinizer05don't forget bm does _not_ handle MyDocs23:16
DocScrutinizer05you need to handle that "manually", via mass storage copy to/from your PC, for example23:17
keriowe should backport zfs23:17
DocScrutinizer05copy MyDocs -> uSD possible but not recommended, it takes ages possibly23:17
bencohkerio: zfs on a 256MB device?23:21
fishbulbI have two corpses23:21
bencohyeaaaah, riiiiight :]23:21
fishbulbwhen this phone dies, I have to get some smudgy screen mashing piece of crap :/23:22
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keriobencoh: technically the strict minimum is 64mb23:29
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bencohyeah sure23:32
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