| kerio | we don't want bugs | 00:01 |
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| bencoh | same goes for the mailing-list, I wonder if we could go back to using it | 00:02 |
| bencoh | but I think that's because TMO has always had a preponderant part in the communication inside the community | 00:02 |
| M4rtinK2 | well a bugtracker could be handy | 00:03 |
| bencoh | yeah, but people tend to use TMO as a bug reporting tool | 00:03 |
| bencoh | (not really a bugtracker, but kindof) | 00:04 |
| Sicelo | the average person doesn't know how to submit bugs in a bug-tracker. hence forums end up bug-trackers :) | 00:04 |
| bencoh | yeah | 00:04 |
| M4rtinK2 | still more knowledgeable users can fill the reports as bugs | 00:05 |
| M4rtinK2 | at least for the Maemo infrastructure for example | 00:06 |
| M4rtinK2 | otherwise it is very easy to loose track of bugs | 00:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | xes__: there's a whole lot of mess in all those DUI programs that doesn't handle errors properly. And there's a bazillion nonsensical error messages even during otherwise flawless operation | 03:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | s/DUI/GUI/ | 03:17 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: xes__: there's a whole lot of mess in all those GUI programs that doesn't handle errors properly. And there's a bazillion nonsensical error messages even during otherwise flawless operation | 03:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the devels never really care about what's the fallout on STDOUT/STDERR | 03:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | most programs are supposed to run $app &>/dev/null | 03:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and then all but the most common errors simply don't show up in any meaningful way | 03:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you're just lucky that this time GLIB bothered to do a syslog | 03:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ((Everything about bugs.maemo.org seems very outdated)) I guess Abdre Klapper doesn't really care anymore about maemo bugs, and nobody took over the role of bugmaster | 03:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Andre even | 03:23 |
| * jonwil is no closer to figuring out whats wrong with NSS | 03:24 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dang, a nasty critter, jonwil | 03:25 |
| jonwil | There are some command line tools that might be useful included in the NSS/microb-engine source code but I cant figure out how to get them to compile | 03:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-( | 03:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | did that Nokia guy answer your mail? | 03:26 |
| jonwil | Been going back and forth with Juhani | 03:29 |
| jonwil | At least we know for sure that the new set of root CA certificates is good because cmcli -T common-ca -v ib.boq.mobi:443 verifies correctly | 03:29 |
| jonwil | same with other sites that are broken in microb | 03:29 |
| jonwil | So that proves its NSS/Microb at fault and not maemo-security-certman | 03:30 |
| jonwil | but yeah I am determined to get it working (possibly by importing a newer NSS version if I can ever figure out how) | 03:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXoW-TDzcFU | 03:45 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: could you rebase to -rc3? | 20:03 |
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| Pali | freemangordon: later I can do it | 22:53 |
| Pali | anyway, you asked what is missing... in mainline kernel is that bug in omapfb :-) | 22:53 |
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