| *** disco_stu has quit IRC | 00:02 | |
| *** disco_stu has joined #maemo | 00:02 | |
| *** eijk_ has quit IRC | 00:07 | |
| *** jonwil has joined #maemo | 00:11 | |
| *** eijk_ has joined #maemo | 00:23 | |
| *** xes has joined #maemo | 00:29 | |
| *** hashcore has quit IRC | 00:36 | |
| *** florian has quit IRC | 00:37 | |
| *** arossdotme has joined #maemo | 00:37 | |
| *** eijk_ has quit IRC | 00:39 | |
| *** geaaru has quit IRC | 00:39 | |
| *** xes_ has joined #maemo | 00:45 | |
| *** xes has quit IRC | 00:46 | |
| *** louisdk has joined #maemo | 01:02 | |
| *** xes_ has quit IRC | 01:06 | |
| *** ashneo76 has quit IRC | 01:07 | |
| *** ashneo76 has joined #maemo | 01:11 | |
| *** arossdotme-planb has joined #maemo | 01:16 | |
| *** arossdotme has quit IRC | 01:17 | |
| *** M4rtinK has quit IRC | 01:32 | |
| *** luf_ has quit IRC | 01:57 | |
| *** louisdk has quit IRC | 02:08 | |
| *** robbiethe1st has joined #maemo | 02:26 | |
| *** parazyd has quit IRC | 02:33 | |
| *** Pali has quit IRC | 02:33 | |
| *** Pali_ has joined #maemo | 02:33 | |
| *** parazyd has joined #maemo | 02:33 | |
| *** jonwil has quit IRC | 02:33 | |
| *** Pali_ has quit IRC | 03:06 | |
| *** louisdk has joined #maemo | 03:41 | |
| *** jonwil has joined #maemo | 04:05 | |
| *** louisdk has quit IRC | 04:06 | |
| *** eMHa__ has joined #maemo | 04:32 | |
| *** eMHa_ has quit IRC | 04:36 | |
| *** LauRoman has joined #maemo | 04:42 | |
| *** Defiant has quit IRC | 04:45 | |
| *** Defiant has joined #maemo | 04:51 | |
| *** LauRoman|Phone has quit IRC | 04:57 | |
| *** jryahawk is now known as jrayhawk | 05:16 | |
| *** louisdk has joined #maemo | 05:20 | |
| *** githogori has quit IRC | 05:26 | |
| *** robbiethe1st has quit IRC | 05:31 | |
| *** louisdk has quit IRC | 05:34 | |
| *** Vajb has quit IRC | 05:56 | |
| *** Vajb has joined #maemo | 05:58 | |
| *** lxp1 has joined #maemo | 06:01 | |
| *** lxp has quit IRC | 06:04 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer05 has quit IRC | 06:20 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer05 has joined #maemo | 06:20 | |
| *** realitygaps has quit IRC | 06:38 | |
| *** realityg1 has joined #maemo | 06:40 | |
| *** githogori has joined #maemo | 06:56 | |
| *** pagurus has quit IRC | 07:11 | |
| *** Shoggoth has quit IRC | 07:30 | |
| *** Shoggoth has joined #maemo | 07:33 | |
| *** ashneo76 has quit IRC | 07:52 | |
| *** ashneo76 has joined #maemo | 07:53 | |
| *** sparetire has quit IRC | 08:00 | |
| *** disco_stu has quit IRC | 08:22 | |
| *** disco_stu_droid has joined #maemo | 08:22 | |
| *** disco_stu_droid is now known as disco_stu | 08:23 | |
| *** xes has joined #maemo | 08:35 | |
| Sicelo | am i the only one who hates google's login screen, where username is entered, then you have to click Next in order to get password field | 09:13 |
|---|---|---|
| Sicelo | any ideas how to restore the 'old' way? | 09:14 |
| brolin_empey | Sicelo: I do not hate that design but the Web site of my credit card company has been the same in that way for years. | 09:31 |
| *** tanty_off is now known as tanty | 09:43 | |
| *** robink_ has quit IRC | 09:50 | |
| *** robink_ has joined #maemo | 09:51 | |
| Sicelo | :) | 09:54 |
| Sicelo | you're used to it | 09:54 |
| brolin_empey | 3.5-inch HDDs seem very large (in dimensions, not storage capacity) now that I am used to 2.5-inch HDDs and SSDs. | 09:58 |
| brolin_empey | My Galaxy Note 3 seemed large when I first began using it but now “smaller-than-phablet” computers seem small. | 10:03 |
| * Maxdamantus still has 14 TB of 3.5" HDDs in his computer. | 10:05 | |
| Maxdamantus | 3.5" HDDs are probably still fairly large in storage capacity (versus volume). | 10:06 |
| Maxdamantus | Can get 8 TB consumer drives atm I think. | 10:07 |
| Maxdamantus | You'd probably have to pay excessive amounts to have that storage density on SSDs. | 10:07 |
| Wizzup | for now, yes | 10:08 |
| Maxdamantus | (that is, pay far more than you'd usually pay for the same amount of storage on smaller SSDs) | 10:08 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo: disable js for that google screen maybe? (didnt try) | 10:09 |
| Sicelo | i wonder. will check | 10:12 |
| Maxdamantus | Presumably there's something somewhere to say that it's a public computer you're logging onto. | 10:12 |
| Maxdamantus | Oh, nvm. The boxes are on different screens even when it doesn't know your account. | 10:13 |
| Maxdamantus | If you set your UA to the one used by an N9 it has both boxes on the same screen. | 10:15 |
| *** troulouliou_div2 has joined #maemo | 10:15 | |
| Sicelo | Google should make this thing optional. I don't even see the logic behind it | 10:15 |
| KotCzarny | sicelo, maybe it forgets your username cookie | 10:16 |
| *** geaaru has joined #maemo | 10:17 | |
| *** realityg1 is now known as realitygaps | 10:34 | |
| *** realitygaps has joined #maemo | 10:34 | |
| *** eijk_ has joined #maemo | 10:42 | |
| *** florian_kc has joined #maemo | 10:48 | |
| *** florian_kc is now known as florian | 10:49 | |
| jonwil | Updated root certificates for Maemo Fremantle (and patches/instructions/everything else needed to make it work) should appear in CSSU Git sometime tonight assuming I dont hit any more snags/roadblocks | 11:02 |
| Wizzup | Awesome work! | 11:05 |
| *** mhlavink has joined #maemo | 11:16 | |
| *** vectis3 has quit IRC | 11:21 | |
| *** robink_ is now known as robink | 11:36 | |
| ceene | wow! | 12:14 |
| *** chem|st has quit IRC | 12:18 | |
| *** RedM has quit IRC | 12:19 | |
| *** RedW has joined #maemo | 12:23 | |
| *** Vajb has quit IRC | 12:34 | |
| *** louisdk has joined #maemo | 12:36 | |
| *** hashcore has joined #maemo | 12:37 | |
| *** Hurrian has quit IRC | 12:39 | |
| *** Vajb has joined #maemo | 12:50 | |
| *** pagurus has joined #maemo | 13:11 | |
| *** chem|st has joined #maemo | 13:13 | |
| *** LauRoman has quit IRC | 13:43 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/search.php?do=process is borked. I mean, a search for "led" doesn't show any hits? | 14:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I can't find how to patch mce - I posted it myself :-/ | 14:08 |
| *** hashcore has quit IRC | 14:11 | |
| *** erlehmann_ has joined #maemo | 14:15 | |
| *** erlehmann_ has quit IRC | 14:16 | |
| *** louisdk has quit IRC | 14:18 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | google to the rescue :-/ https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1388368 | 14:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: are you maintainer of cssu-mce? could you please fix ^^^ + http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/%23maemo-ssu.2013-11-23.log.html#t2013-11-23T06:20:48 | 14:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:~# md5sum /usr/lib/mce/modules/libfilter-brightness-als.so | 14:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 9db7e3c959bd5b47c7fcfb6ebc1ca764 /usr/lib/mce/modules/libfilter-brightness-als.so | 14:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | once this been fixed by binary patching in original MCE by me, now it's broken again on one of my N-th device migrations and CSSU updates | 14:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, happy new year | 14:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Gong Xi Fa Cai | 14:35 |
| *** eMHa__ has quit IRC | 14:45 | |
| *** Hurrian has joined #maemo | 14:50 | |
| *** Vajb has quit IRC | 14:56 | |
| *** Vajb has joined #maemo | 14:58 | |
| jonwil | Just about finished with the root CA stuff | 15:02 |
| *** eMHa__ has joined #maemo | 15:05 | |
| kerio | the what now :o | 15:08 |
| *** vakkov has joined #maemo | 15:13 | |
| *** eijk_ has quit IRC | 15:20 | |
| bencoh | kerio: the certificate store | 15:39 |
| kerio | nice | 15:39 |
| bencoh | maemo/certman | 15:39 |
| *** LauRoman has joined #maemo | 15:40 | |
| jonwil | ok, the work is supposedly finished but for some reason it isn't working right (in that a legitimate https site gives me an "invalid" error in microb) | 15:44 |
| kerio | ;< | 15:45 |
| kerio | which site? | 15:45 |
| jonwil | ib.boq.mobi | 15:45 |
| kerio | check it with ssllabs | 15:45 |
| jonwil | my bank | 15:45 |
| jonwil | it works just fine in microb with the old root ca set (or did last I checked which was a while back) | 15:45 |
| jonwil | and it also works just fine in my desktop browser | 15:45 |
| jonwil | https://www.google.com.au does work though | 15:46 |
| kerio | ye it works | 15:46 |
| kerio | like | 15:46 |
| kerio | the site itself works | 15:46 |
| jonwil | Going to make a t.m.o forum post about all this and see if anyone can shed any light on the problem | 15:47 |
| *** Vajb has quit IRC | 15:48 | |
| *** Vajb has joined #maemo | 15:49 | |
| *** eijk_ has joined #maemo | 16:03 | |
| jonwil | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1498178#post1498178 | 16:20 |
| *** vakkov has quit IRC | 16:24 | |
| jonwil | Even with the stuff that doesn't work yet, its still a major achievement for the future of Maemo | 16:35 |
| *** vakkov has joined #maemo | 16:37 | |
| *** sparetire has joined #maemo | 16:39 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok, I fixed MCE ALS/indicatorlight stuff again, and there's a script now for you to fix it too :-) https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1388368 | 16:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, rather a set of shell commands. Needs sed-gnu!!! apt-get install sed-gnu; make sure your path to sed points to /usr/bin/gnu/sed or use full pathname /usr/bin/gnu/sed in place of just "sed" | 16:43 |
| *** krnlyng has quit IRC | 16:51 | |
| *** krnlyng has joined #maemo | 16:52 | |
| *** jonwil has quit IRC | 16:52 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools#nasty_hack_to_fix_indicator_light_in_bright_environment | 16:57 |
| enyc | DocScrutinizer05: do you ever get the impression the whole world is a nasty_hack ? | 17:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I often think that most *I* do is | 17:05 |
| enyc | lol | 17:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the above thing works but is terribly wrong on a multitude of aspects | 17:05 |
| enyc | i've not seen much wpwrak talking of late | 17:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it shouldn't depend on sed-gnu, it shouldn't patch a binary to start with, and finally it just works by lucky coincidence that the pattern is unique in this very binary | 17:06 |
| inz | the world is a thin polished veil over a selection of nasty hacks, jury rigs, kludges, duct tape and wd-40 | 17:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh and you generally prolly shouldn't patch binaries with *sed* | 17:07 |
| enyc | i was half-expecting to see wpwrak discussing marketing-the-project-progress feedback and/or hackerbus-draft to discuss hey-ho get the re eventually =) | 17:08 |
| enyc | inz: lol =) | 17:08 |
| enyc | inz: duct-tape is like the force: dark on on side, light on the other, and holds the universe together | 17:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hehehehe | 17:08 |
| *** hashcore has joined #maemo | 17:12 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools#epilog | 17:13 |
| *** N-Mi has quit IRC | 17:17 | |
| *** N-Mi has joined #maemo | 17:17 | |
| *** jonwil has joined #maemo | 17:17 | |
| *** jonwil has quit IRC | 17:21 | |
| *** Vajb has quit IRC | 17:24 | |
| *** louisdk has joined #maemo | 17:29 | |
| *** Vajb has joined #maemo | 17:32 | |
| *** florian has quit IRC | 17:34 | |
| *** hashcor has joined #maemo | 17:35 | |
| *** hashcor is now known as help | 17:39 | |
| *** help is now known as hashcor | 17:40 | |
| *** hashcor has quit IRC | 17:40 | |
| *** hashcor has joined #maemo | 17:41 | |
| Vajb | so, i have this notify script in irssi. And it sends dbus command to vibrate when someone says my nick, but for it to work it requires --print-reply. So im asking, if it possible to hide that dbus reply on irssi? | 17:42 |
| *** hashcor has quit IRC | 17:43 | |
| bencoh | >/dev/null ? | 17:44 |
| Vajb | u mean to add that after dbus command? | 17:45 |
| Vajb | i'll try | 17:45 |
| bencoh | I wonder why it needs --print-reply | 17:46 |
| *** krnlyng has quit IRC | 17:46 | |
| Vajb | i don't know, but if i remove that part it doesn't vibrate | 17:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | weird | 17:47 |
| bencoh | yeah I tried as well | 17:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and? | 17:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | confirm? | 17:47 |
| Vajb | ok say my nick | 17:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: | 17:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: | 17:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: | 17:49 |
| Vajb | thx doc and thx bencoh for suggestion, works | 17:49 |
| bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: yeah, I confirm it doesn't vibrate without --print-reply | 17:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freaking bug | 17:49 |
| bencoh | dunno | 17:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dbus-send shouldn't return before the dbus message got sent? | 17:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | try a sleep 1 after dbus-send | 17:50 |
| Vajb | well, im happy as it works without that reply shown now :) | 17:50 |
| bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: sleep 1? what? | 17:51 |
| bencoh | I tried from a shell :) | 17:52 |
| *** krnlyng has joined #maemo | 17:52 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/xchat/notify.sh indeed also has print-reply | 17:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh: duh! | 17:52 |
| Vajb | ok try now. I replaced devnull with sleep 1 | 17:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wtf how does dbus-send sent msg differ for receiver depending on whether sender prints reply or not? :-o | 17:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: it won't work | 17:53 |
| bencoh | maybe it depends on having "someone" listening to the answer | 17:53 |
| Vajb | true | 17:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: bencoh already tested it in a context that doesn't vanish (shell) | 17:53 |
| Vajb | it juust blurbed an error of baddlyformed data item | 17:54 |
| *** HRH_H_Crab has quit IRC | 17:54 | |
| bencoh | Vajb: do you run irssi on device? | 17:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LOL | 17:54 |
| bencoh | or is that irssi over ssh + vbell + xterm notification? | 17:54 |
| *** HRH_H_Crab has joined #maemo | 17:54 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hahahahaha | 17:54 |
| bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: ? :) | 17:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I honestly doubt it would ever vibrate then | 17:55 |
| Vajb | bencoh: nah, i just like my phone to vibrate in my pocket when im irc'ing on desktop ;) | 17:55 |
| bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: with vbell+xterm notification on vbell, it would :) | 17:55 |
| Vajb | that would be beoynd my grasp | 17:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well | 17:56 |
| bencoh | I'm just not sure xterm has external command support for that | 17:56 |
| Vajb | i have just irssi on my device | 17:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it doesn't | 17:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | afaik | 17:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I even doubt it supports bell at all | 17:56 |
| Sicelo | doesn't (if we're talking stock XTerminal) | 17:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 17:57 |
| Sicelo | Vajb: now i'm curious regarding your setup .. you mention dbus, irssi, desktop... please clarify what's running where :) | 17:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think desktop came in on an inverted basis | 17:57 |
| bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: talking about real xterm :) | 17:58 |
| Vajb | desktop was just part of my bad joke :) | 17:58 |
| bencoh | (I dont use the libvte-based thing) | 17:58 |
| Sicelo | so irssi on device (with perl support)? | 17:58 |
| Vajb | im running irssi on n900 with simple script to vibrate when mentioned | 17:59 |
| bencoh | osso-xterm isn't really usable (and libvte is pretty bad / slow) | 17:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | investigation project: why does dbus-send fail for vibra patterns when no --print-reply ? | 17:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | first step: study dbus-monitor | 17:59 |
| Vajb | hey, maybe jonwil want's it :) | 17:59 |
| Vajb | Sicelo: yes. Found on forum | 18:00 |
| Vajb | maybe bencoh was the one who made it? | 18:00 |
| Sicelo | i know that *one* :p i built it ;) | 18:00 |
| Vajb | ah it was u | 18:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaaah wait wait wait, it's a flaw in mce I bet - or rather a feature: any pattern (LED or vibra) terminates when dbus sender disappears from bus | 18:01 |
| Vajb | well i knew it was either Sicelo or bencoh and odly enough i failed at 50/50 guess.. | 18:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | at least that would be a semi-reasonable explanation, however for LED patterns it evidently doesn't apply | 18:01 |
| Sicelo | Vajb: interestingly enough, i don't run any scripts on it now :p | 18:02 |
| Vajb | :p | 18:02 |
| Vajb | mine is almost perfect | 18:02 |
| Vajb | i just need to figure way to make it not vibrate when window is active | 18:02 |
| Vajb | and i wanna figure it out by myself thx ;) | 18:03 |
| Sicelo | share afterwards. no idea | 18:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please paste the dbus-send cmdline here | 18:03 |
| Vajb | "dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.mce /com/nokia/mce/request com.nokia.mce.request.req_vibrator_pattern_activate string:PatternChatAndEmail >/dev/null" | 18:05 |
| Vajb | as is in my script | 18:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ta | 18:05 |
| Vajb | in script that i copied somewhere and added just that string* | 18:05 |
| *** Sicelo009N has joined #maemo | 18:10 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wtf is wrong with dbus(-monitor)? http://paste.opensuse.org/81641486 I don't see the dbus-send message? | 18:11 |
| bencoh | monitor system? | 18:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I do, no? | 18:11 |
| bencoh | indeed | 18:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | does dbus-monitor not see most of the stuff when started as user? | 18:12 |
| bencoh | dunno | 18:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, same under root | 18:15 |
| Vajb | okay. Lets see if it works say my nick now | 18:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: | 18:15 |
| Vajb | ok | 18:16 |
| Vajb | now again in few seconds | 18:16 |
| Vajb | anytime u want :) | 18:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: | 18:18 |
| Vajb | hmm now i broke it | 18:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dbus is thoroughly fsckdup | 18:18 |
| Vajb | :D back to drawing board | 18:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dbus-monitor doesn't show messages sent by dbus-send, mce doesn't vibrate when sender doesn't --print-reply... | 18:19 |
| *** l_bratch has quit IRC | 18:19 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | man dbus-monitor: >>The message bus configuration may keep dbus-monitor from seeing all messages, especially if you run the monitor as a non-root user.<< haha, even when run as root | 18:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freedesktop.org, what else would you expect | 18:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | FLOS https://pappp.net/?p=969 | 18:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477964 | 18:29 |
| povbot | Bug 477964: was not found. | 18:29 |
| KotCzarny | redhat == nsa | 18:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477964#c11 | 18:32 |
| povbot | Bug 477964: was not found. | 18:32 |
| Vajb | k made some changes. Could someone say my nick twice with 5second sleep inbetween? | 18:32 |
| KotCzarny | vajb 1 | 18:32 |
| KotCzarny | 2 | 18:32 |
| KotCzarny | 3 | 18:32 |
| KotCzarny | 4 | 18:32 |
| KotCzarny | 5 | 18:32 |
| KotCzarny | vajb 5 | 18:32 |
| Vajb | hmm now it works opposite as meant lol | 18:33 |
| Vajb | thx KotCzarny :) | 18:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and >>The problem with using --print-reply is that the call will block waiting for the reply from dbus.<< (comment 17) | 18:34 |
| KotCzarny | inz: problem is, there is no world, just vibrating superposition of the void | 18:34 |
| bencoh | riiiight | 18:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this reminds me of a problem buried deep inside dbus we faced back in FSO when switching from python to vala. Seems the message buffer gets destroyed in dbus-send *before* the message got copied to the destination buffer, or sth like that | 18:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this wasn't a dbus-send bug but generic dbus-lib mega bug | 18:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and would explain a lot of randomly occurring erratic behavior in all dbus systems | 18:37 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, how about hacking vbell into vibra in x ? | 18:39 |
| bencoh | you dont really need to hack X, just hildon-desktop | 18:41 |
| KotCzarny | right, wm | 18:42 |
| bencoh | but it wouldn't work with osso-xterm anyway, since it doesn't handle vbell | 18:42 |
| KotCzarny | add vbell support to xterm too | 18:42 |
| bencoh | so you'd need to either move to another term emulator, or patch it | 18:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=896 | 18:43 |
| povbot | Bug 896: missing instructions in point 4 of installing scratchbox in gregale/INSTALL.txt | 18:43 |
| bencoh | I think it was discussed here some time ago (with sicelo maybe) | 18:43 |
| KotCzarny | anyway, ctrl-g should either beep on audio or do vibra | 18:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>For method calls, we simply wait for the reply, even if we don't print it.<< https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=896#c26 | 18:47 |
| povbot | Bug 896: missing instructions in point 4 of installing scratchbox in gregale/INSTALL.txt | 18:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | povbot: shut up! | 18:47 |
| povbot | DocScrutinizer05: Error: "shut" is not a valid command. | 18:47 |
| bencoh | :] | 18:47 |
| *** vectis3 has joined #maemo | 18:47 | |
| *** mgcsqr has joined #maemo | 18:49 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dbus/2008-March/009526.html >> At which point the badness happens: The daemon (apparently) immediately closes the connection, oblivious to the fact that there is critical data in it's socket buffer as-yet un-read.<< | 18:51 |
| *** arossdotme has joined #maemo | 18:53 | |
| *** arossdotme-planb has quit IRC | 18:54 | |
| *** Pali has joined #maemo | 18:55 | |
| *** mgcsqr has quit IRC | 18:59 | |
| *** at1as has joined #maemo | 19:03 | |
| *** futpib has joined #maemo | 19:04 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Vajb: many thanks for bringing up this bug :-) | 19:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fixing it might improve whole maemo stability a lot | 19:06 |
| Vajb | oh that's cool :) | 19:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for a first stopgat (though only for dbus-send) we could overlay the dbus-send binary with a script wrapper that adds "--print-reply" and ">/dev/null/ if there's no "--print-reply" in the options handed to the command | 19:11 |
| bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: unless maemo stuff has been built around the bug :] | 19:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm pretty sure there are a bazillion other binaries that do a dbus-send() and then exit | 19:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bencoh: can't be, the bug 'evaluates to" a no-op | 19:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | worst case some stuff slows down a bit | 19:13 |
| *** merlin1991 has quit IRC | 19:13 | |
| *** eijk_ has quit IRC | 19:15 | |
| *** merlin1991 has joined #maemo | 19:15 | |
| *** clopez has quit IRC | 19:30 | |
| *** tanty is now known as tanty_off | 19:35 | |
| *** clopez has joined #maemo | 19:36 | |
| *** RedW has quit IRC | 19:37 | |
| *** xelo has joined #maemo | 19:39 | |
| Sicelo009N | a little miscellanea: | 19:43 |
| Sicelo009N | https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mas90/misc/maemo-5-word-completion/ | 19:43 |
| Vajb | gotta love scripting. 3 hours and only thing that improved is that irssi drops dbus reply. So basically i got nowhere from where bencoh left off. | 19:52 |
| KotCzarny | what is your problem? | 19:52 |
| Vajb | well i know several ways about not to make it work | 19:53 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 19:53 |
| KotCzarny | you have to write/think rules something has to do | 19:53 |
| KotCzarny | then start implementing it as a script | 19:53 |
| Vajb | KotCzarny: i wanted to modify my vibrate script so it would only vibrate if my nick is mentioned and im not viewing channel | 19:53 |
| KotCzarny | is there a current channel variable? | 19:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>It is noteworthy that if word completion has any effect, it is to increase the time taken to enter text<< ;-P I always been aware of that | 19:54 |
| Vajb | KotCzarny: i thought Irssi::active_window(); would take care of that part | 19:55 |
| KotCzarny | did it? | 19:55 |
| Vajb | or i don't know what u asked :D | 19:55 |
| Vajb | nah | 19:55 |
| KotCzarny | what it returns? | 19:56 |
| Vajb | with all my addings it just stopt vibrating at all | 19:56 |
| Sicelo009N | i guess word completion much more useful for vkbd. There it's quite fast (at least for me) | 19:56 |
| KotCzarny | vajb: | 19:58 |
| KotCzarny | https://raw.githubusercontent.com/irssi/irssi/master/docs/perl.txt | 19:58 |
| *** xelo has quit IRC | 19:58 | |
| Vajb | closest i got was it did nothing when channel was active and did "can't use string (#chan: nick who called me) as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /path to script and line pointer to line i added" | 19:58 |
| Sicelo009N | Vajb: if you're "viewing" the channel, with your current proposal you may miss messages. Maemo has only one active window at a time, so if you've got something else on foreground, your 'viewed' irssi window may even scroll past .. just my 2 cents | 19:59 |
| *** xelo has joined #maemo | 19:59 | |
| *** RedW has joined #maemo | 20:00 | |
| KotCzarny | UI::Window->{active} <-- Active window item | 20:00 |
| *** eMHa__ has quit IRC | 20:00 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, indeed. that's absolutely non-trivial | 20:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you also want to deal with locked screen etc | 20:01 |
| *** troulouliou_divn has joined #maemo | 20:02 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | generally I'd consider it less hassle to have notifications even when I just stare at the trigger happening | 20:02 |
| *** troulouliou_div2 has quit IRC | 20:02 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | otherwise it would end with using frontcam to detect a pair of eyes focused on screen ;-) | 20:03 |
| Sicelo009N | :) | 20:03 |
| Vajb | hmm u r right | 20:04 |
| Vajb | oh well now it vibrates till my usermode is away | 20:04 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 20:04 |
| Vajb | without printing dbus reply :) which is great | 20:05 |
| Vajb | but i might have a vulnerability there | 20:05 |
| KotCzarny | :> | 20:05 |
| Vajb | when Sicelo009N said "viewing" i got reply | 20:05 |
| Vajb | 9 dbus-send: Data item "viewing" is badly formed | 20:06 |
| Vajb | scratch 9. Is part of time stamp | 20:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | heck, you shouldn't send data from IRC via dbus anyway | 20:06 |
| Vajb | i guess not | 20:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | your dbus-send script line is flawed | 20:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it must not have any variables | 20:08 |
| bencoh | DocScrutinizer05: it actually works properly with Conversation | 20:08 |
| bencoh | and I think the relevant part is already in hildon-desktop | 20:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry? | 20:08 |
| bencoh | proper notification handling vs active window and/or lockscreen | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the relevant part is has_focus() | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or is_visible() or sth like that | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the usual thing you frequently use to not do nonsensical power consuming display updates when the display isn't visible at all | 20:10 |
| bencoh | all you'd need for it to work properly is have hildon-desktop/mb2 generate a notification on urgency hint event | 20:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway I'm maximum scared with the buggy state of dbus at large, on maemo | 20:12 |
| Vajb | hmm i changed the thing i suppose did that thing. So try to say my nick and "test" | 20:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this is probably one of the most severe bugs we ever found | 20:13 |
| KotCzarny | vajb test | 20:13 |
| KotCzarny | 2 | 20:13 |
| KotCzarny | 3 | 20:13 |
| KotCzarny | 4 | 20:13 |
| KotCzarny | 5 | 20:13 |
| KotCzarny | vajb test2 | 20:13 |
| *** mhlavink has quit IRC | 20:13 | |
| Vajb | and test with "" | 20:13 |
| KotCzarny | vajb "" ? | 20:13 |
| Vajb | i mean (vajb "test"( | 20:14 |
| Vajb | err | 20:14 |
| KotCzarny | vajb "test" ? | 20:14 |
| Vajb | yeah | 20:14 |
| Vajb | didn't print anything so i guess it is safe now | 20:14 |
| Vajb | i removed $message part | 20:15 |
| *** xelo has quit IRC | 20:22 | |
| *** l_bratch has joined #maemo | 20:35 | |
| Vajb | btw. Was the current state of purple facebook plugin for maemo, solved not gonna happen? | 20:41 |
| Vajb | i remember reading something about need of newer glibc | 20:41 |
| Vajb | for pidgin in maemo to be exact | 20:43 |
| *** heroux has quit IRC | 20:43 | |
| *** heroux has joined #maemo | 20:46 | |
| *** Vajb_ has joined #maemo | 20:49 | |
| *** Sicelo009N has quit IRC | 20:51 | |
| *** Vajb has quit IRC | 20:52 | |
| *** geaaru has quit IRC | 21:01 | |
| *** pagurus has quit IRC | 21:05 | |
| *** florian has joined #maemo | 21:11 | |
| *** Sicelo009N has joined #maemo | 21:13 | |
| bencoh | Vajb_: new *glib*, not glibc | 21:21 |
| bencoh | and, yeah, it looked like a real mess | 21:22 |
| bencoh | (deps hell) | 21:22 |
| *** at1as has quit IRC | 21:35 | |
| *** at1as has joined #maemo | 21:39 | |
| *** pagurus has joined #maemo | 21:41 | |
| *** pistolet has joined #maemo | 21:48 | |
| *** KotCzarny has quit IRC | 21:48 | |
| *** pistolet has quit IRC | 21:48 | |
| *** vakkov has quit IRC | 21:49 | |
| *** shentey has joined #maemo | 21:58 | |
| *** arcean has joined #maemo | 22:07 | |
| *** ced117 has quit IRC | 22:14 | |
| *** futpib has quit IRC | 22:43 | |
| *** pagurus has quit IRC | 22:52 | |
| *** vakkov has joined #maemo | 22:56 | |
| *** vakkov has quit IRC | 23:14 | |
| *** luf_ has joined #maemo | 23:16 | |
| *** vakkov has joined #maemo | 23:17 | |
| *** vakkov has quit IRC | 23:22 | |
| Sicelo009N | is it just me, or on tmo, after replying to a private message, i cannot see my reply | 23:23 |
| Sicelo009N | hmm, you have to go "Advanced" when replying. sucks that a checkbox for this is not available on 'default' reply box/page | 23:24 |
| *** vakkov has joined #maemo | 23:26 | |
| *** arcean has quit IRC | 23:43 | |
| *** hashcore has quit IRC | 23:45 | |
| *** shentey has quit IRC | 23:46 | |
| *** shentey has joined #maemo | 23:51 | |
| *** KotCzarny has joined #maemo | 23:54 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.15.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!