| freemangordon | ok, rebooting | 00:01 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: [ 260.860717] g_nokia gadget: using musb-hdrc, OUT ep1out, IN ep1in | 00:07 |
| freemangordon | still lsusb prints nothing | 00:07 |
| Pali | hm... | 00:07 |
| freemangordon | same when usb_f_mass_storage is loaded | 00:08 |
| freemangordon | Pali: there is no /proc/bus/usb | 00:09 |
| Pali | /proc/bus/usb does not exists | 00:09 |
| freemangordon | ok | 00:10 |
| Pali | use /sys/bus/usb or /dev/bus/usb | 00:10 |
| freemangordon | Pali: there is /sys/devices/platform/68000000.ocp/480ab000.usb_otg_hs/musb-hdrc.0.auto/musb-hdrc.0.auto | 00:12 |
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| Pali | hm... | 00:14 |
| Pali | ls -l -a /sys/devices/platform/68000000.ocp/480ab000.usb_otg_hs/musb-hdrc.0.auto/musb-hdrc.0.auto/../mode | 00:14 |
| Pali | it exists! | 00:14 |
| Pali | (in qemu) | 00:14 |
| Wizzup | want me to boot a mainline kernel I had a bit ago? had basic gadgets working. | 00:14 |
| freemangordon | yes | 00:14 |
| Pali | hm... that HAL code first check for usb device | 00:15 |
| Wizzup | hang on - will take a few minutes (I think the battery ran out) | 00:15 |
| Pali | and then check for that ../mode | 00:15 |
| * Oksanaa : moving bookmarks around + low battery shutdown -> loss of bookmarks being moved around? | 00:15 | |
| freemangordon | it exists here too | 00:15 |
| xes | freemangordon: do you stil need the backup? Or have you already solved? | 00:15 |
| freemangordon | solved | 00:15 |
| Pali | Wizzup: do you have working mainline kernel? | 00:15 |
| xes | freemangordon: ok | 00:15 |
| Pali | Wizzup: which version? | 00:15 |
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| Wizzup | Pali: it is from a month or two ago. hang on. I made lots of notes | 00:17 |
| Pali | older version is perfect | 00:18 |
| Wizzup | 4.1.0-rc4 is what I have | 00:18 |
| Wizzup | (your branch) | 00:18 |
| Wizzup | (it is not running maemo - though - but I had gadgets working in gentoo I think) | 00:19 |
| Wizzup | what do you want me to do - it is booted | 00:20 |
| Pali | output from lsusb | 00:20 |
| Pali | (when gadget is active) | 00:20 |
| Wizzup | gentoo900 ~ # lsusb | 00:20 |
| Wizzup | unable to initialize libusb: -99 | 00:20 |
| Wizzup | eh. | 00:20 |
| freemangordon | sudo? | 00:21 |
| Wizzup | no -as root | 00:21 |
| freemangordon | :) | 00:21 |
| Wizzup | http://sprunge.us/aIbO | 00:21 |
| Wizzup | it is probed | 00:21 |
| freemangordon | the same here | 00:21 |
| Wizzup | interestingly enough | 00:22 |
| Wizzup | the gadget does work | 00:22 |
| Wizzup | I have /sys/bus/usb | 00:23 |
| Wizzup | I'm confused - do I still need to do something - or not really | 00:25 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: I guess no | 00:26 |
| Wizzup | It is weird that libusb doesn't want to initialise, though. but one problem at the time :) | 00:26 |
| freemangordon | what is error -99? | 00:26 |
| Wizzup | I tried to get host mode to work some time ago - but gave up at some point, I think because it wasn't possible to set the mode using the debugfs anymore or something - something was removed/changed | 00:26 |
| Wizzup | good question. | 00:26 |
| Wizzup | do you not get that error? | 00:27 |
| Wizzup | as I said - this is an older version that what you are using, I think | 00:27 |
| freemangordon | well, lsusb just outputs nothing here | 00:27 |
| Pali | Wizzup: usb host mode should be possible to set via upstream kernel too! but interface is chnages since kernel-power | 00:27 |
| freemangordon | didn't check $? | 00:27 |
| Wizzup | Pali: could noy find it last time | 00:27 |
| Pali | first you need to read kernel source code | 00:27 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: http://sprunge.us/LIKd | 00:28 |
| Pali | and then do magic via debugfs (not procfs) | 00:28 |
| Wizzup | Pali: I see | 00:28 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: same here, without the error message | 00:28 |
| Pali | you need to manually write something to registers | 00:28 |
| Pali | (same what kernel-power is doing...) | 00:28 |
| Pali | it is really tricky | 00:28 |
| Wizzup | Pali: ok, I did look at the source some time ago, didn't find it. will have another look again at some point | 00:29 |
| Pali | I remember that I traced coude and find that it should be possible (if code is correct bug-free) | 00:29 |
| Pali | you need to mount something into /dev/bus/usb ? | 00:30 |
| Wizzup | I will retry it with a newer kernel version soon then - I will first continue finishing this home raid setup before I get too tired | 00:30 |
| Wizzup | there is nothing in /dev/bus/usb | 00:30 |
| Pali | or check strace | 00:30 |
| Wizzup | there is something in /sys/bus/usb | 00:30 |
| Wizzup | fair point. | 00:30 |
| Wizzup | that will take a bit longer - no portage tree on the n900 (I compile using chroot on my arm laptop) | 00:30 |
| Pali | strace lsusb on my laptop: | 00:31 |
| Pali | openat(AT_FDCWD, "/dev/bus/usb", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_DIRECTORY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 | 00:31 |
| Pali | -99 is -EADDRNOTAVAIL | 00:32 |
| Wizzup | http://sprunge.us/ESGY | 00:33 |
| Pali | Wizzup: lsusb --version | 00:33 |
| freemangordon | neither /proc/bus/usb nor /dev/bus/usb exists here | 00:34 |
| Wizzup | ilsusb (usbutils) 008 | 00:34 |
| Wizzup | without the 'i' in front of it :) | 00:34 |
| Pali | I have 005 on laptop | 00:34 |
| Pali | and 0.72 on Maemo | 00:34 |
| Pali | Wizzup: aaaa I remember 007+ lsusb does not work without systemd! | 00:36 |
| Pali | Wizzup: is your systemd running? | 00:37 |
| Wizzup | Pali: no, I do not use systemd | 00:41 |
| Wizzup | http://sprunge.us/CBcf <-- laptop, also not systemd | 00:42 |
| Wizzup | Pali: I think the only difference seems to be that lsusb doesn't search in /sys/bus/usb | 00:42 |
| Wizzup | Pali: it only tries /proc/bus/usb and /dev/bus/usb | 00:42 |
| Wizzup | openat(AT_FDCWD, "/dev/bus/usb", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) | 00:42 |
| Pali | Wizzup: then downgrade to 006 version | 00:42 |
| Wizzup | openat(AT_FDCWD, "/proc/bus/usb", O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) | 00:42 |
| Wizzup | Pali: ack, I can do that (later) :-) | 00:42 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: what is your libusb version? | 00:43 |
| freemangordon | maemo | 00:43 |
| Pali | 007 version needs udev from systemd | 00:43 |
| Wizzup | Pali: I use eudev | 00:43 |
| Wizzup | udev fork without systemd | 00:43 |
| Pali | I already faced that problem | 00:43 |
| freemangordon | libusb-0.1-4 | 00:43 |
| freemangordon | 2:0.1.12-5osso3+0m5 | 00:43 |
| Wizzup | let's try something ugly. | 00:44 |
| Pali | /dev/bus/usb is generated by udev | 00:45 |
| Pali | clearly you have wrong version of udev | 00:45 |
| Wizzup | bind mount from /sys/bus to /dev/bus does get it a bit further | 00:45 |
| Wizzup | Pali: weird. let me double check that then :) | 00:46 |
| Pali | /sys/bus and /dev/bus had different structure! | 00:46 |
| Wizzup | ah. | 00:46 |
| Pali | /proc/bus and /dev/bus should have similar/compatible | 00:46 |
| Pali | I have udev 175 | 00:46 |
| Wizzup | actually -- this system still uses systemd-udevd it seems | 00:46 |
| Wizzup | # /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd --version | 00:46 |
| Wizzup | 216 | 00:46 |
| Wizzup | well - I need to work on this other thing atm - happy to upgrade/downgrade in a bit | 00:47 |
| Pali | Wizzup: downgrade lsusb | 00:47 |
| Pali | or at least compile older version (no need to downgrade) | 00:48 |
| Wizzup | I will try that in a bit | 00:48 |
| freemangordon | Pali: besides g_nokia, what else I can check? | 00:50 |
| freemangordon | hmm, ifconfig usb0 up seems to work | 00:51 |
| KotCzarny | you can get udev from devuan maybe | 00:52 |
| Pali | freemangordon: checking kernel source code | 00:56 |
| freemangordon | Pali: ok, wish you luck, I am going to have some sleep as I have to wake-up in about 6 hours :) | 00:57 |
| freemangordon | night | 00:57 |
| Pali | bye | 00:57 |
| Pali | freemangordon: check dmesg | grep -i usb | 00:58 |
| Wizzup | KotCzarny: I think eudev will do fine too | 00:59 |
| Pali | in qemu I have this: [ 0.633819] HS USB OTG: no transceiver configured [ 0.634246] musb-hdrc musb-hdrc.0.auto: musb_init_controller failed with status -517 | 00:59 |
| Wizzup | KotCzarny: with eudev on my system I have /dev/bus/usb | 00:59 |
| Wizzup | Pali: I get this on the n900: [ 2.171417] musb-hdrc musb-hdrc.0.auto: musb_init_controller failed with status -517 | 00:59 |
| Wizzup | again - 4.1.0-rc4 | 01:00 |
| Pali | ok, then problem is in kernel :-( | 01:00 |
| Wizzup | does fmg get that? | 01:00 |
| Pali | looks like DTS related | 01:01 |
| Pali | how is IS_ERR defined? | 01:02 |
| Pali | is if (IS_ERR(NULL)) true? | 01:02 |
| Wizzup | Pali: is it defined in a few places I think | 01:05 |
| Wizzup | grepping now | 01:05 |
| Wizzup | ./include/linux/err.h:#define IS_ERR_VALUE(x) unlikely((x) >= (unsigned long)-MAX_ERRNO) | 01:05 |
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| Wizzup | let me know if you want me to test things tomorrow evening or so | 01:16 |
| Wizzup | I also need to hit the sack soon | 01:16 |
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| Pali | looks like probe defer | 01:17 |
| Pali | at next time it is loaded... | 01:17 |
| Wizzup | Pali: yeah, it does seem to work | 01:20 |
| Wizzup | Pali: http://sprunge.us/PDfJ | 01:21 |
| Pali | I hate those EPROBEDEFER... | 01:21 |
| Pali | it contains false-positive errors | 01:21 |
| Wizzup | hang on... | 01:22 |
| Wizzup | that is the wrong dmesg. | 01:22 |
| Wizzup | wrong device... | 01:22 |
| Wizzup | http://sprunge.us/ggaC | 01:23 |
| Pali | [ 7.936096] ALSA device list: | 01:24 |
| Pali | [ 7.942260] No soundcards found. | 01:24 |
| Pali | !!! | 01:24 |
| Pali | [ 7.142364] tpa6130a2 2-0060: Write failed | 01:24 |
| Pali | [ 7.142456] tpa6130a2 2-0060: Failed to initialize chip | 01:24 |
| Pali | [ 7.142639] tpa6130a2: probe of 2-0060 failed with error -121 | 01:24 |
| Pali | !!! | 01:24 |
| Pali | [ 7.777282] rx51-audio n900-audio: Failed to add TPA6130A2 controls | 01:24 |
| Pali | [ 7.784912] rx51-audio n900-audio: ASoC: failed to init TLV320AIC34: -19 | 01:24 |
| Pali | [ 7.792633] rx51-audio n900-audio: ASoC: failed to instantiate card -19 | 01:24 |
| Pali | !!! | 01:24 |
| Wizzup | Pali: weird, I know that alsa worked before | 01:26 |
| Wizzup | maybe it's a race | 01:26 |
| Wizzup | let me reboot it | 01:27 |
| Pali | hm... that remind me that there is some bug in that tpa6130a2 chip and it does not load always :-( | 01:28 |
| Pali | looks like this is problem just in upstream kernel | 01:28 |
| Pali | https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/7/25/98 | 01:29 |
| Pali | reported ^^^^ | 01:29 |
| Wizzup | http://sprunge.us/MdiC | 01:29 |
| Wizzup | after reboot^ | 01:29 |
| Wizzup | Pali: ah, I see | 01:29 |
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| brolin_empey | bencoh: I no longer use a Nokia Internet Tablet but I am still in this channel because of the (smart and funny) community. | 01:51 |
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| KotCzarny | funny? lol | 01:56 |
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| brolin_empey | KotCzarny: I meant that the persons in this channel seem to be both intelligent and to have a good sense of humour. | 10:22 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 12:53 |
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| jonwil | hi | 14:30 |
| Oksanaa | hello | 14:33 |
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| Luke-Jr | can Maemo emulate a USB CD drive? | 15:58 |
| Oksanaa | Would be nice | 16:06 |
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| Wizzup | Luke-Jr: emulate how? usb gadget? | 19:20 |
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| Pali | Luke-Jr: Linux kernel does not have support for emulating CD drivers | 19:38 |
| Pali | so there is no way to create CD rom device in /dev/ | 19:39 |
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| brolin_empey | Luke-Jr: You can use a physical/real USB device that emulates a USB ODD, such as the Startech S2510BU3ISO . | 20:39 |
| freemangordon | chem|st: it is not your account only to be suspended :). And I bet it is not because you've pissed of enough people. Mine was suspended too, incl developer account. Maybe it is time to close my account on FB. Anyway I am prepering for this for the last 2 or 3 years | 20:57 |
| bencoh | I thought you already dropped that | 20:57 |
| bencoh | had* | 20:57 |
| KotCzarny | lol | 20:58 |
| bencoh | the only downside of not having a fb plugin (and no active fb plugin dev) is that I suspect a lot of people might move away from n900 because of that | 20:58 |
| bencoh | same goes for whatsapp if maemo didn't have yappari | 20:59 |
| freemangordon | well, I am really pissed off, FB closed my account for no particular reason and with no explanation. I really can't continue to support such a behaviour. | 21:00 |
| bencoh | ah | 21:00 |
| KotCzarny | lol2 | 21:00 |
| freemangordon | "You're restricted from creating apps indefinitely." | 21:01 |
| KotCzarny | maybe some app went frenzy | 21:01 |
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| bencoh | freemangordon: oh, so you're only prevented from developing but you can still access fb? | 21:02 |
| bencoh | they're just plain stupid ... | 21:02 |
| freemangordon | the only app I am developer of in n900 app | 21:02 |
| freemangordon | *is | 21:02 |
| KotCzarny | maybe you did something wrong (ie. not using some testing account) | 21:02 |
| freemangordon | see, I guess they just screwed it, but this is not an excuse for removing my access to all my applications | 21:02 |
| freemangordon | all == 1 | 21:03 |
| KotCzarny | maybe you were accidentally creating it as a new one | 21:03 |
| KotCzarny | and thought that you were just updating | 21:03 |
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| freemangordon | I dodn;t touch it for months | 21:03 |
| freemangordon | *didn't | 21:03 |
| KotCzarny | lol | 21:03 |
| KotCzarny | then as i said, maybe your app was misbehaving somehow? | 21:04 |
| freemangordon | also, I *can* log to developers.facebook.com | 21:04 |
| freemangordon | adnc *can* create a new application | 21:04 |
| freemangordon | *and | 21:04 |
| freemangordon | but n900 application is not listed under "my apps" | 21:04 |
| bencoh | maybe they just disabled/"banned" the app (because they dont like it, or think maemo is a dead platform) | 21:05 |
| bencoh | (it's still stupid and silly, but ...) | 21:05 |
| brolin_empey | Facebook = Faecesbook. | 21:06 |
| freemangordon | doesn;t make sense, as my account was blocked as well | 21:06 |
| freemangordon | also, it seems they upgraded something, as developers.facebook.com ahs a new face, compared to last time I visited it | 21:06 |
| freemangordon | upgraded == broke | 21:07 |
| KotCzarny | as i said, something changed in the api, app/developer missed it, chaos ensued | 21:09 |
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| KotCzarny | s/api/app development process/ | 21:10 |
| infobot | KotCzarny meant: as i said, something changed in the app development process, app/developer missed it, chaos ensued | 21:10 |
| freemangordon | usually, it is supposed to send a warning or something, before blocking/suspending accounts | 21:12 |
| freemangordon | if the change that will result in a block is on your side | 21:12 |
| freemangordon | however | 21:12 |
| bencoh | freemangordon: account is suspended but you can access their dev site? | 21:13 |
| bencoh | "funny" | 21:14 |
| freemangordon | yes :) | 21:15 |
| freemangordon | well, I can log in, but can;t create application and can't access already created applications :) | 21:16 |
| KotCzarny | emulating cd: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2196707 | 21:16 |
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| chem|st | freemangordon: that is what I thought, I guess they killed all Maemo related accounts | 21:28 |
| KotCzarny | lol | 21:29 |
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| KotCzarny | conspiracy? | 21:29 |
| KotCzarny | or just deprecated api? | 21:29 |
| freemangordon | chem|st: but why they should do that? | 21:29 |
| KotCzarny | (conspiracy intensifies) | 21:29 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: no, API is not deprecated, it was migrated to newer version | 21:29 |
| KotCzarny | have you tried asking THEM? | 21:30 |
| freemangordon | ask them WHERE? | 21:30 |
| chem|st | using some other persons words: some Hi-Potential smartass is trying to get attention by hurting his own company! Time to announce this on the Maemo Pages | 21:30 |
| Wizzup | Uhm | 21:30 |
| chem|st | freemangordon: would you mind to post this to the thread on TMO | 21:30 |
| Wizzup | Wasn't facebook going to deprecate some of their APIs a long time ago? | 21:30 |
| Wizzup | e.g. XMPP/Jabber? | 21:30 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: were deprecated about an year ago | 21:31 |
| freemangordon | xmpp stopped working about 2 weeks ago. I can;t believe my n900 lasts almost 2 full days without a charge with fb xmpp account removed :) | 21:31 |
| KotCzarny | https://developers.facebook.com/bugs/ | 21:31 |
| KotCzarny | maybe there? | 21:32 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: I reported a problem to FB support on 4th of April 2015, all I got was "Thanks for reporting" | 21:32 |
| KotCzarny | treat them as chinese, ask until someone responds what you want to hear | 21:33 |
| freemangordon | chem|st: post what? that my account was suspended and I am restricted from created applications? | 21:33 |
| freemangordon | KotCzarny: no, I won;t, I can live happily without FB, just downloaded all of my info there, will close my account in a couple of days | 21:34 |
| KotCzarny | write a saucy goodbye and dont close it so it will be in the google too | 21:34 |
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| KotCzarny | what happens to closed accounts? are they reachable? | 21:35 |
| freemangordon | who cares, /me not | 21:35 |
| freemangordon | no idea | 21:35 |
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| chem|st | freemangordon: wrote something to the Maemo FB site | 21:43 |
| chem|st | freemangordon: I cannot get into the app center for good atm | 21:44 |
| freemangordon | posted | 21:45 |
| freemangordon | app center? in the private account? | 21:45 |
| freemangordon | chem|st: because I can access app center in my private account, but cannot access n900 application with my dev account and cannot create a new application | 21:46 |
| bencoh | maemo fb site? wow, didn't know we had that (and had control over it) | 21:47 |
| freemangordon | I guess "fb page" is the correct term | 21:47 |
| bencoh | oh, and ... fmg: toldya (about xmpp eating all your battery ;) | 21:48 |
| freemangordon | yeah, you were right | 21:48 |
| bencoh | n900's just great when you remove polling stuff | 21:49 |
| KotCzarny | https://www.facebook.com/Maemo-7855690587/ | 21:49 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 21:49 |
| bencoh | not sure the abrasive post is what we want, but maybe we just no longer care about fb anymore | 21:50 |
| bencoh | (I for myself dont, but maybe some people still do) | 21:50 |
| KotCzarny | i never used fb | 21:50 |
| bencoh | me neither | 21:51 |
| KotCzarny | my personal fb page is only made for spam/freebies purposes | 21:51 |
| * Wizzup has no fb either | 21:51 | |
| chem|st | freemangordon: yeah I can open app center but my apps is empty | 22:07 |
| Sicelo | xmpp doesn't trouble me as far as batteyr :/ | 22:08 |
| Sicelo | chem|st: which N900 apps were you managing? | 22:12 |
| chem|st | Sicelo: ALL of them :) | 22:14 |
| KotCzarny | all 1? | 22:14 |
| chem|st | Sicelo: I was the only one from board available with a FB account | 22:14 |
| KotCzarny | lol | 22:15 |
| chem|st | I do nothing, know nothing | 22:15 |
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| Sicelo | :) | 22:18 |
| Sicelo | the sharing plugin .. we shouldn't have API change on there, should we? | 22:18 |
| KotCzarny | can we assume that anything fb related stops working on n900? | 22:19 |
| Sicelo | i know it needed to be passed via review proces (which i had promised to do) ... is t still worth it? freemangordon? | 22:20 |
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| freemangordon | Sicelo: without admin access we can't add you as a dev to do the review | 22:23 |
| Sicelo | yeah. hm. | 22:27 |
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| chem|st | Sicelo: you see the crux? | 22:32 |
| chem|st | Sicelo: befriend me on fb and I'll add you as soon as we get there again | 22:33 |
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| freemangordon | chem|st: you think your dev access will be restored? | 22:34 |
| brolin_empey | KotCzarny: Not if you include Facebook Web sites accessed in a Web browser. Strictly speaking, the Nokia N900 is a model of computer that can run multiple operating systems in addition to Maemo. You can say that an “N900 proper” runs Maemo but not all N900 run Maemo. Maemo and Nokia Internet Tablet is analogous to Mac OS proper or Mac OS X and Apple Macintosh or Apple’s pre-iOS iPod OS and pre-iPod-Touch iPod. I had an Apple iPod 4G (only because I | 22:34 |
| brolin_empey | received it as a gift) but it ran Rockbox instead of Apple’s OS; I had an iPod (hardware) but not an iPod proper. | 22:34 |
| Sicelo | chem|st: who are you on FB? | 22:35 |
| chem|st | freemangordon: I have friends that can write in proper newspapers small articles about how facebook restricts foss communities from accessing | 22:36 |
| chem|st | Sicelo: Ruediger | 22:36 |
| Sicelo | looking for you right away | 22:36 |
| KotCzarny | brolin: thing is that we still dont have many alternatives (that retain phone part), and without phone part there are superior linux devices available | 22:36 |
| freemangordon | chem|st: ah, yeah :) | 22:36 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: not many with this form-factor though | 22:37 |
| bencoh | (cant' think of any actually) | 22:37 |
| freemangordon | me is gonna be on the tv, yeah :D:D:D | 22:37 |
| stryngs | Anyone from Denmark here? | 22:37 |
| chem|st | Jolla should bundle with PSION and release a MX6 with SFOS and cell-modem^^ | 22:38 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh, grab allwinner board, add battery and screen, poof! done. | 22:38 |
| Sicelo | hmmp my gmail .. keeps saying messages not available on server .. in modest. :/ | 22:38 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: what about battery life? :p | 22:38 |
| freemangordon | Sicelo: install cssu | 22:38 |
| Sicelo | i'm on thumb :) | 22:38 |
| bencoh | ad keyboard, ergonomy... nah, seriously now :p | 22:38 |
| chem|st | KotCzarny: on seeedstudio have gsm developerboards popped up before xmas | 22:38 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh: you can use any battery you like. 8x 18650? ;) | 22:39 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: *meh* :) | 22:39 |
| chem|st | you can actually build your own (limited) phone | 22:39 |
| Sicelo | just started this evening ... will check tomorrow.. am not home | 22:39 |
| freemangordon | Sicelo: login from desktop and see what has google to say about it | 22:39 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: yo know what I meant | 22:39 |
| chem|st | stryngs: what does it matter? | 22:39 |
| freemangordon | Sicelo: aah, they restrict access from unknown ips | 22:39 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh, yeah, it eats plenty in idle (~600-700mA @ 4V) | 22:40 |
| stryngs | chem|st: Trying to find someone, from there, so they can make a phone call | 22:40 |
| freemangordon | Sicelo: try to open gmail from microb | 22:40 |
| chem|st | stryngs: to do what? | 22:40 |
| stryngs | chem|st: Report to a NS provider, they're all jacked up, and to fix it | 22:40 |
| stryngs | 13k+ ddomains | 22:40 |
| stryngs | vuln | 22:40 |
| stryngs | etc.. | 22:40 |
| stryngs | Easier to do via phone, than an email that will get ignored. | 22:41 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: I know, those chip aren't meant for mobile use | 22:41 |
| chem|st | stryngs: send an email, much faster on the serveradmins | 22:41 |
| bencoh | at least not for daily phones | 22:41 |
| Sicelo | freemangordon: mutt on N900 works.. anyway, will investigate tomorrow and rant here .) | 22:41 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh, with big enough battery you can (which is simple to do because its just 2 pins) | 22:41 |
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| bencoh | KotCzarny: .... | 22:42 |
| KotCzarny | for a whole day one would need ~30Wh i guess | 22:43 |
| KotCzarny | which translates to 4-6 cells | 22:43 |
| KotCzarny | so not that much | 22:43 |
| bencoh | that's pretty sick | 22:44 |
| KotCzarny | form factor would be something ~nintento 3DS | 22:45 |
| KotCzarny | *nintendo | 22:45 |
| Sicelo | chem|st: too many with your name. can i pm you my username? | 22:45 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: I'd rather go for pyra+headphones then, mind you? :p | 22:45 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh, sure, though i'm planning to add mini amp and have a portable boombox :P | 22:46 |
| Sicelo | buy the upcoming iphone with no 3.5mm headphone jack :p | 22:46 |
| chem|st | Sicelo: you find me from the maemo page | 22:46 |
| chem|st | or here https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153210153685588&id=7855690587 | 22:46 |
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| Sicelo | gotcha. thanks | 22:47 |
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| chem|st | :D | 22:53 |
| chem|st | we will see waht happens, turned my language to english and tried another ticket | 22:54 |
| KotCzarny | lol | 22:54 |
| chem|st | maybe english support staff is not that insane | 22:54 |
| chem|st | year starts as expected... second day and I had called 3 hotlines wrote several emails to support staff incl but not limited to phone company and facebook. | 22:55 |
| freemangordon | ...and it's only just begun :) | 22:57 |
| bencoh | err ... :] | 22:57 |
| bencoh | I wonder if fb is worse than paypal regarding that kind of stuff | 22:58 |
| chem|st | bencoh: same lvl | 23:02 |
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| brolin_empey | stryngs: If you are asking because of the cost of making a long-distance telephone call, you can probably use VoIP.ms or a similar/competing service for a VoIP-to-PSTN call. | 23:16 |
| stryngs | brolin_empey: does that work for country to country? | 23:19 |
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| brolin_empey | stryngs: What do you mean? You can call a different country than the country you are in. I live in Canada but I can still use the service to call Denmark or any other supported country. See https://voip.ms/rates.php?l=d . | 23:24 |
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| brolin_empey | stryngs: You can call a landline/wired line in Denmark for less than 2 cents per minute. Calling a mobile/wireless number in Denmark apparently costs at least 19 cents per minute in most cases. | 23:38 |
| brolin_empey | No grammar nazi correction that I should say “fewer than” instead of “less than” is necessary (sp?) because I mean “less than” as in the mathematical operator. :-P | 23:40 |
| brolin_empey | Cents as in of USD, IIRC. | 23:43 |
| stryngs | hmmmm | 23:45 |
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