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| plomlompom | So I just got me this n900, and I installed fapman. Am I right to assume that I don't run into any major trouble by uninstalling any packages fapman allows me to uninstall apart from the Maemo 5 package? | 00:25 |
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| KotCzarny | ~fapman | 00:29 |
| infobot | fapman is probably Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam | 00:29 |
| KotCzarny | install cssu | 00:29 |
| KotCzarny | ham in cssu is much improved | 00:29 |
| KotCzarny | major trouble in fapman is that it calls autoremove | 00:31 |
| KotCzarny | which can f*ckup your system | 00:31 |
| plomlompom | Ah, thanks! "install cssu", as in https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU#Installation I assume? | 00:31 |
| KotCzarny | most likely | 00:32 |
| KotCzarny | ~cssu | 00:32 |
| infobot | well, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU, or (Community Seamless Software Update) | 00:32 |
| KotCzarny | yeah | 00:32 |
| KotCzarny | but read whole page first | 00:32 |
| KotCzarny | and maybe install backupmenu first | 00:32 |
| KotCzarny | if your system isnt fresh, cssu might encounter some pkg collisions | 00:33 |
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| jonwil | hi | 00:58 |
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| erlehmann | ~repositories | 01:13 |
| infobot | repositories are frequently old. | 01:13 |
| erlehmann | ~sources.list | 01:13 |
| infobot | If you have problems adding unofficial sites to sources.list, try "deb URL ./" or 'man 5 sources.list' or woody: 'deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free' or woody non-us: 'deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free', or use apt-setup in package base-config to configure your sources.list, or examples: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list | 01:13 |
| erlehmann | ~muarf | 01:14 |
| erlehmann | ~upgrade | 01:14 |
| infobot | Upgrading is easy! Go that way, really fast. If something gets in your way, turn. | 01:14 |
| erlehmann | ~update | 01:15 |
| infobot | update is, like, http://conversations.nokia.com/2012/07/11/nokia-n9-software-update-pr1-3/ | 01:15 |
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| KotCzarny | ~maemo-repos | 01:32 |
| infobot | maemo-repos is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories | 01:32 |
| KotCzarny | erlehmann: ^ | 01:33 |
| plomlompom | CSSU installation running smoothly :) | 01:36 |
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| hawaii | Woah. | 03:54 |
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| jonwil | hi | 08:52 |
| Vajb | hey. Is it possible to charge battery straight via battery terminal? Requires smartcharger for sure, but otherwise? Is n900 smart enough to cope raised voltage on battery terminal? | 09:01 |
| Vajb | just thinking of ways to charge phone while it lays in my pocket. Fragile usb port is rather risky option in pocket. | 09:02 |
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| KotCzarny | vajb: indictive charging | 09:08 |
| KotCzarny | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93412 | 09:10 |
| KotCzarny | also has some hints for you | 09:10 |
| KotCzarny | dont know how safe it is tho | 09:10 |
| Vajb | yes i've read that post of inductive chargin. Dunno if there is carry on inductive chargers on the market tho. | 09:24 |
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| KotCzarny | combining qi charger with solar panel would be awesome | 09:32 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 09:32 |
| Vajb | :P | 09:32 |
| KotCzarny | there was also charger using body heat as source | 09:33 |
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| Vajb | oh wow. Would work for me 'cause i always keep it in my pocket. | 09:35 |
| KotCzarny | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2848868/Mobile-phones-charge-batteries-pocket-using-body-heat.html | 09:40 |
| kerio | >daily mail | 09:40 |
| KotCzarny | still, info comes from MIT | 09:40 |
| KotCzarny | so there is a chance it will be a consumer product in future | 09:41 |
| Vajb | i think there was also some special fabric which produced electricity and it could be stored or used. It was some article of "smart clothing". | 09:47 |
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| Sicelo | i would think charging straight from battery would fry a chip or two | 09:57 |
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| Vajb | is it just me or is it weird that ham only allows installing one program at a time? | 09:57 |
| Sicelo | most package managers on mobiles do the same. play store too iirc | 09:58 |
| Vajb | i guess it is matter of "saving" energy | 09:59 |
| Sicelo | :) | 09:59 |
| Vajb | but in the other hand it stretches it over longer period... | 09:59 |
| Sicelo | or they were worried about possible 'hanging' of the system (from user perspective) | 09:59 |
| KotCzarny | windows installer also only allows 1 task at time | 10:00 |
| Sicelo | or, if it really hangs, then even worse .. a reboot | 10:00 |
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| Vajb | it's like arquing over wether is it more economical to reach proper speed slowly or as fast as possible :) | 10:00 |
| Sicelo | isn't that solvable? | 10:01 |
| Vajb | play store allows at least upgrading all programs at once. (even tho it installs them one by one) | 10:01 |
| KotCzarny | droid apps are just self containet jars | 10:01 |
| KotCzarny | they dont have to watch for deps | 10:01 |
| KotCzarny | or other packages files | 10:02 |
| Vajb | ok | 10:02 |
| Sicelo | ham can upgrade all | 10:03 |
| KotCzarny | sure, but 1 at a time (internally) | 10:03 |
| Vajb | droid fonts was the package to install to see android smileys. Right? | 10:03 |
| Sicelo | yes, of course :) | 10:03 |
| Vajb | Sicelo: actually u r right. So i had no point at all, :/ | 10:03 |
| KotCzarny | or just general utf complete ttf | 10:04 |
| Vajb | kernel module utf8? | 10:04 |
| Vajb | kernel module nls utf8* | 10:05 |
| KotCzarny | no | 10:05 |
| KotCzarny | just ttf file with characters defined | 10:05 |
| Vajb | ttf nokia? | 10:05 |
| KotCzarny | you can find 26M arialutf somewhere.ttf | 10:05 |
| KotCzarny | and others | 10:05 |
| Vajb | ttf nokiapure | 10:05 |
| Vajb | i think i go by 2.6mb droid fonts rather | 10:06 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 10:09 |
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| Vajb | what is new with yappari .22? | 10:32 |
| Vajb | .21 has been working great so i think if it is worth upgradig. | 10:33 |
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| Vajb | nvm got what i needed. Seems that problem is with qml-browser and not my connection being slow. | 10:38 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 10:39 |
| Vajb | i made search in qml-browser and clicked to open link and it loaded and loaded. Then while qml browser was running i openec microb and got info and qml-browser was still loading something. | 10:40 |
| kerio | does yappari still get you banned from whatsapp? | 10:42 |
| Vajb | never happened to me | 10:43 |
| Vajb | i just got frequent crashes of yappari | 10:43 |
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| Vajb | just saw nokia e7 for sale, but by quick googling it doesn't appear too interesting. | 11:31 |
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| erlehmann | it seems maemo.muarf.org does not work right. is there another mirror? | 12:35 |
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| erlehmann | ah | 12:45 |
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| jonwil | ah what? | 12:59 |
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| Sailor10461 | Hello | 13:21 |
| Sicelo | hi Sailor10461 | 13:24 |
| Sicelo | yes, you can get banned with Yappari, especially when you try create new group | 13:25 |
| Sailor10461 | I have a problem | 13:25 |
| Sicelo | Vajb: .22 tries to solve the problem with encrypted messages | 13:25 |
| Sicelo | ~ask | 13:25 |
| infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. | 13:25 |
| Sailor10461 | Talk.Maemo.org ban my ip | 13:26 |
| Sicelo | ah .. i think you contact tech staff for that. and not use tor if that's what you were using | 13:26 |
| Sailor10461 | i'm not spammer | 13:26 |
| Sailor10461 | I'm use Russian's Beeline | 13:27 |
| Sailor10461 | Vimpelcom at Wikipedia | 13:27 |
| Sailor10461 | Sicelo: What should I do? | 13:31 |
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| Sicelo | you email techstaff | 13:37 |
| Sicelo | ~unban | 13:37 |
| Sicelo | there should be a factoid for this | 13:37 |
| Sicelo | anyway, i think the email is techstaff <at> maemo.org | 13:37 |
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| Sailor10461 | Thank you! | 13:48 |
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| sixwheeledbeast^ | ~#maemo unbanip is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request | 20:11 |
| infobot | okay, sixwheeledbeast^ | 20:11 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | ~unbanip | 20:11 |
| infobot | hmm... unbanip is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request | 20:11 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | Sicelo: done | 20:12 |
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| KotCzarny | lu_zero: ping | 22:18 |
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| KotCzarny | um, wrong chan | 22:19 |
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| Oksanaa | Getting omweather's GPS-location functionality to work feels like impossible | 22:34 |
| Oksanaa | And, GUI does not exactly blend in with other apps on Fremantle. For example, fullscreen button could be made similar to MicroB, and close-button is not that necessary | 22:36 |
| Luke-Jr | well, N900 GPS basically doesn't work. :/ | 22:36 |
| Luke-Jr | unless you're really patient and/or leave it on 24/7 | 22:36 |
| Oksanaa | Well, with OSM2Go it works. With omweather it does not even seem to try | 22:37 |
| Oksanaa | I would be willing to leave it on 24/7, but my phone eats battery very quickly | 22:37 |
| * Maxdamantus has only got it to work once, by having it start tracking at the top of a hill. | 22:37 | |
| Oksanaa | And one of my DT-33 chargers no longer works (signs of overheated PCB) | 22:38 |
| Oksanaa | And now Nokia 5230 ( which I used to charge batteries ) no longer seems to charge | 22:39 |
| Oksanaa | And I cannot just microUSB-charge, not until I solder a new microUSB port to Nokia N900 | 22:39 |
| Sicelo | use Location Test GUI just before launching maps. also, use A-GPS. locks fast for me all the time | 22:40 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | i don't see an issue with omweathers gui | 22:41 |
| * Maxdamantus wonders how particular programs can cause it to lock quicker. | 22:41 | |
| Oksanaa | Yes, when I have Internet, finding location is no problem | 22:41 |
| Oksanaa | Even if 'coarse accuracy' probably means that it found location from IP, or something, rather than satellites? | 22:42 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | althought I rarely open the application, use the widget only | 22:42 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | I suppose it one of them apps that is Maemo and MeeGo compatible. | 22:43 |
| Oksanaa | GUI works, it just doesn't blend in with other apps. It does not rely on system-wide theme for fonts, colors, or images | 22:43 |
| Sicelo | Maxdamantus: Ovi Maps stops the GPS when the application is not in focus. Location Test GUI keeps it running | 22:43 |
| Maxdamantus | So how does A-GPS help if it's already running? | 22:44 |
| Sicelo | :/ | 22:44 |
| * Sicelo is lost now | 22:44 | |
| Maxdamantus | it will usually "lock" when it starts running, afaik | 22:45 |
| * Oksanaa hasn't used Ovi Maps for a long time. And, it would be neat if OSM2Go was capable of displaying Bing raster satellite tiles below OSM vector data | 22:45 | |
| Maxdamantus | if it's already locked and you leave it running, you don't need to wait for it to lock again | 22:45 |
| Oksanaa | And, there is a tiny issue of mc and angrybirds not doing 'apt-get purge' correctly (rmdir does not work when directory is not empty) | 22:46 |
| Sicelo | Maxdamantus: Ovi Maps stops GPS when it's in the background. when you bring it back to foreground it has to search again. of course lock doesn't take so long because you're generally not too far from last known almanac position. you can test this | 22:49 |
| Maxdamantus | Oh, A-GPS is assisted GPS, not some additional program. | 22:57 |
| Oksanaa | Ovi Maps does even make sense... As long as you don't need to re-download almanac-or-something | 23:09 |
| Luke-Jr | did anyone ever RE A-GPS? | 23:16 |
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| hawaii | For what purpose? | 23:52 |
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