IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2015-11-07

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plomlompomSo I just got me this n900, and I installed fapman. Am I right to assume that I don't run into any major trouble by uninstalling any packages fapman allows me to uninstall apart from the Maemo 5 package?00:25
infobotfapman is probably Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU), or actually for anything since ~speedyHAM. It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. In short, it's been identified as source of system corruption and thus deprecated, or see ~hamvsfam00:29
KotCzarnyinstall cssu00:29
KotCzarnyham in cssu is much improved00:29
KotCzarnymajor trouble in fapman is that it calls autoremove00:31
KotCzarnywhich can f*ckup your system00:31
plomlompomAh, thanks! "install cssu", as in I assume?00:31
KotCzarnymost likely00:32
infobotwell, cssu is, or (Community Seamless Software Update)00:32
KotCzarnybut read whole page first00:32
KotCzarnyand maybe install backupmenu first00:32
KotCzarnyif your system isnt fresh, cssu might encounter some pkg collisions00:33
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infobotrepositories are frequently old.01:13
infobotIf you have problems adding unofficial sites to sources.list, try "deb URL ./" or 'man 5 sources.list' or woody: 'deb woody main contrib non-free' or woody non-us: 'deb woody/non-US main contrib non-free', or use apt-setup in package base-config to configure your sources.list, or examples: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list01:13
infobotUpgrading is easy!  Go that way, really fast.  If something gets in your way, turn.01:14
infobotupdate is, like,
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infobotmaemo-repos is probably
KotCzarnyerlehmann: ^01:33
plomlompomCSSU installation running smoothly :)01:36
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Vajbhey. Is it possible to charge battery straight via battery terminal? Requires smartcharger for sure, but otherwise? Is n900 smart enough to cope raised voltage on battery terminal?09:01
Vajbjust thinking of ways to charge phone while it lays in my pocket. Fragile usb port is rather risky option in pocket.09:02
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KotCzarnyvajb: indictive charging09:08
KotCzarnyalso has some hints for you09:10
KotCzarnydont know how safe it is tho09:10
Vajbyes i've read that post of inductive chargin. Dunno if there is carry on inductive chargers on the market tho.09:24
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KotCzarnycombining qi charger with solar panel would be awesome09:32
KotCzarnythere was also charger using body heat as source09:33
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Vajboh wow. Would work for me 'cause i always keep it in my pocket.09:35
kerio>daily mail09:40
KotCzarnystill, info comes from MIT09:40
KotCzarnyso there is a chance it will be a consumer product in future09:41
Vajbi think there was also some special fabric which produced electricity and it could be stored or used. It was some article of "smart clothing".09:47
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Siceloi would think charging straight from battery would fry a chip or two09:57
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Vajbis it just me or is it weird that ham only allows installing one program at a time?09:57
Sicelomost package managers on mobiles do the same. play store too iirc09:58
Vajbi guess it is matter of "saving" energy09:59
Vajbbut in the other hand it stretches it over longer period...09:59
Siceloor they were worried about possible 'hanging' of the system (from user perspective)09:59
KotCzarnywindows installer also only allows 1 task at time10:00
Siceloor, if it really hangs, then even worse .. a reboot10:00
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Vajbit's like arquing over wether is it more economical to reach proper speed slowly or as fast as possible :)10:00
Siceloisn't that solvable?10:01
Vajbplay store allows at least upgrading all programs at once. (even tho it installs them one by one)10:01
KotCzarnydroid apps are just self containet jars10:01
KotCzarnythey dont have to watch for deps10:01
KotCzarnyor other packages files10:02
Siceloham can upgrade all10:03
KotCzarnysure, but 1 at a time (internally)10:03
Vajbdroid fonts was the package to install to see android smileys. Right?10:03
Siceloyes, of course :)10:03
VajbSicelo: actually u r right. So i had no point at all, :/10:03
KotCzarnyor just general utf complete ttf10:04
Vajbkernel module utf8?10:04
Vajbkernel module nls utf8*10:05
KotCzarnyjust ttf file with characters defined10:05
Vajbttf nokia?10:05
KotCzarnyyou can find 26M arialutf somewhere.ttf10:05
KotCzarnyand others10:05
Vajbttf nokiapure10:05
Vajbi think i go by 2.6mb droid fonts rather10:06
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Vajbwhat is new with yappari .22?10:32
Vajb.21 has been working great so i think if it is worth upgradig.10:33
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Vajbnvm got what i needed. Seems that problem is with qml-browser and not my connection being slow.10:38
Vajbi made search in qml-browser and clicked to open link and it loaded and loaded. Then while qml browser was running i openec microb and got info and qml-browser was still loading something.10:40
keriodoes yappari still get you banned from whatsapp?10:42
Vajbnever happened to me10:43
Vajbi just got frequent crashes of yappari10:43
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Vajbjust saw nokia e7 for sale, but by quick googling it doesn't appear too interesting.11:31
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erlehmannit seems does not work right. is there another mirror?12:35
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jonwilah what?12:59
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Sicelohi Sailor1046113:24
Siceloyes, you can get banned with Yappari, especially when you try create new group13:25
Sailor10461I have a problem13:25
SiceloVajb: .22 tries to solve the problem with encrypted messages13:25
infobotQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.13:25 ban my ip13:26
Siceloah .. i think you contact tech staff for that. and not use tor if that's what you were using13:26
Sailor10461i'm not spammer13:26
Sailor10461I'm use Russian's Beeline13:27
Sailor10461Vimpelcom at Wikipedia13:27
Sailor10461Sicelo: What should I do?13:31
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Siceloyou email techstaff13:37
Sicelothere should be a factoid for this13:37
Siceloanyway, i think the email is techstaff <at> maemo.org13:37
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Sailor10461Thank you!13:48
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sixwheeledbeast^~#maemo unbanip is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request20:11
infobotokay, sixwheeledbeast^20:11
infobothmm... unbanip is please contact techstaff <at> maemo <dot> org with your request20:11
sixwheeledbeast^Sicelo: done20:12
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KotCzarnylu_zero: ping22:18
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KotCzarnyum, wrong chan22:19
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OksanaaGetting omweather's GPS-location functionality to work feels like impossible22:34
OksanaaAnd, GUI does not exactly blend in with other apps on Fremantle. For example, fullscreen button could be made similar to MicroB, and close-button is not that necessary22:36
Luke-Jrwell, N900 GPS basically doesn't work. :/22:36
Luke-Jrunless you're really patient and/or leave it on 24/722:36
OksanaaWell, with OSM2Go it works. With omweather it does not even seem to try22:37
OksanaaI would be willing to leave it on 24/7, but my phone eats battery very quickly22:37
* Maxdamantus has only got it to work once, by having it start tracking at the top of a hill.22:37
OksanaaAnd one of my DT-33 chargers no longer works (signs of overheated PCB)22:38
OksanaaAnd now Nokia 5230 ( which I used to charge batteries ) no longer seems to charge22:39
OksanaaAnd I cannot just microUSB-charge, not until I solder a new microUSB port to Nokia N90022:39
Sicelouse Location Test GUI just before launching maps. also, use A-GPS. locks fast for me all the time22:40
sixwheeledbeast^i don't see an issue with omweathers gui22:41
* Maxdamantus wonders how particular programs can cause it to lock quicker.22:41
OksanaaYes, when I have Internet, finding location is no problem22:41
OksanaaEven if 'coarse accuracy' probably means that it found location from IP, or something, rather than satellites?22:42
sixwheeledbeast^althought I rarely open the application, use the widget only22:42
sixwheeledbeast^I suppose it one of them apps that is Maemo and MeeGo compatible.22:43
OksanaaGUI works, it just doesn't blend in with other apps. It does not rely on system-wide theme for fonts, colors, or images22:43
SiceloMaxdamantus: Ovi Maps stops the GPS when the application is not in focus. Location Test GUI keeps it running22:43
MaxdamantusSo how does A-GPS help if it's already running?22:44
* Sicelo is lost now22:44
Maxdamantusit will usually "lock" when it starts running, afaik22:45
* Oksanaa hasn't used Ovi Maps for a long time. And, it would be neat if OSM2Go was capable of displaying Bing raster satellite tiles below OSM vector data22:45
Maxdamantusif it's already locked and you leave it running, you don't need to wait for it to lock again22:45
OksanaaAnd, there is a tiny issue of mc and angrybirds not doing 'apt-get purge' correctly (rmdir does not work when directory is not empty)22:46
SiceloMaxdamantus: Ovi Maps stops GPS when it's in the background. when you bring it back to foreground it has to search again. of course lock doesn't take so long because you're generally not too far from last known almanac position. you can test this22:49
MaxdamantusOh, A-GPS is assisted GPS, not some additional program.22:57
OksanaaOvi Maps does even make sense... As long as you don't need to re-download almanac-or-something23:09
Luke-Jrdid anyone ever RE A-GPS?23:16
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hawaiiFor what purpose?23:52

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