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| ebzzry | Is 'Settings > General > Device lock' and 'Power menu > Secure device' different? | 01:03 |
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| Sicelo | yes, and no | 01:05 |
| Sicelo | yes, because in Settings, you can define the behaviour you want. Power Menu enables the lock | 01:06 |
| ebzzry | Sicelo: Do they share code? | 01:15 |
| Sicelo | you mean the lock code? yes, there's only one code | 01:19 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | ebzzry: "lock device" is like a key/screen lock, "secure device" is a PIN code lock. Do not use secure if you don't know your pin. | 01:22 |
| ebzzry | What is the character limit of the code? | 01:23 |
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| ebzzry | I didn't mean 'Power menu > Lock screen and keys' | 01:26 |
| ebzzry | By the way, is there still a way to use the device, when 'Secure device' was used? | 01:28 |
| bencoh | you can still try and retrieve the code from the cal partition and bruteforce it (with john iirc) | 01:30 |
| ebzzry | bencoh: Is it documented somewhere? | 01:30 |
| bencoh | maybe in some TMO post | 01:31 |
| ebzzry | bencoh: ok | 01:31 |
| bencoh | iirc you can also override CAL with some default known (encrypted/hashed) value | 01:32 |
| bencoh | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=37808 | 01:33 |
| Sicelo | 17:22 < sixwheeledbeast> ebzzry: "lock device" is like a key/screen lock << this isn't exactly correct, if we're talking about 'Settings > General > Device lock' | 01:34 |
| ebzzry | What is the limit of the lock code? How many characters? | 01:39 |
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| Oksana | Funny >> I assume my keyboard removed/connected messages and repeating key presses are caused by 2G radio interference. << http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93156&page=180 | 02:17 |
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| ebzzry | Oh, it's 10 | 02:22 |
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| Oksana | ~help | 08:03 |
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| ebzzry | Why does Maemo 5 asks me to input a code, for Secure Device, when I have already changed the code in Settings > Device lock | 08:30 |
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| ebzzry | It is asking for the same code, or a new code? | 08:33 |
| KotCzarny | during changing or after screen lock/boot ? | 08:34 |
| Oksana | You click Secure Device. Hence, you will need to input the code to get back in. Hence, it's asking you to input the code. | 08:38 |
| Oksana | Device is already 'secured'. It's asking for the code to 'unsecure' the device | 08:39 |
| Oksana | Same code, yes, afaik | 08:39 |
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| ebzzry | If it is the same code, why does it asks me to input a code to lock the device? | 09:22 |
| ebzzry | Shouldn't it just lock the device, since I have already configured the lock code? | 09:22 |
| KotCzarny | in settings you are creating new code | 09:23 |
| KotCzarny | use powermenu to lock, or set to lock everytime when you 'lock the screen and keys' | 09:23 |
| Oksana | It just locks _and_ asks you if you want to input a code and unlock. Theoretically, it should offer you an option to call 911-000-emergency-numbers without inputting the code | 09:26 |
| Sicelo | < ebzzry> If it is the same code, why does it asks me to input a code to lock the device? | 09:29 |
| Sicelo | to prevent you from locking it and then being unable to unlock | 09:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hihi. do you need a key to lock the door, or only to unlock it | 09:32 |
| Sicelo | :) | 09:33 |
| KotCzarny | depends on the door | 09:33 |
| KotCzarny | some lock automatically | 09:33 |
| KotCzarny | especially popular in usa | 09:34 |
| Sicelo | and we all know they are are pain those doors .. | 09:34 |
| KotCzarny | some cars also have such 'feature' | 09:34 |
| Sicelo | locked m car key in the boot last night | 09:34 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 09:34 |
| Sicelo | luckily, spare key was within 10 minutes walk | 09:34 |
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| Oksana | Nnniice... | 09:41 |
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| Maxdamantus | So a thief would only have had to walk ten minutes to steal your car. | 10:16 |
| Maxdamantus | or twenty, maybe. | 10:17 |
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| Oksana | Well, it was probably inside a house, or something | 10:20 |
| Vajb | maybe it was more like geocaching thing | 10:21 |
| Maxdamantus | So you're relying on a master key? That's insecure. | 10:21 |
| Maxdamantus | or are you getting into the house using a key hidden somewhere on the property? That's security through obscurity, which is also insecure. | 10:22 |
| Vajb | so for ultimate security change different locks for all locks in one car | 10:22 |
| KotCzarny | or add secret tap module | 10:22 |
| Vajb | or numpad | 10:22 |
| KotCzarny | retina scanner | 10:23 |
| Vajb | + fingerprint | 10:23 |
| KotCzarny | fingerprint will be problematic in winter | 10:23 |
| Vajb | one can always take the gloves off =) | 10:24 |
| KotCzarny | suuuuure, ever experienced -20C ? | 10:24 |
| Maxdamantus | The gloves are off. | 10:24 |
| * Vajb is from finland | 10:24 | |
| KotCzarny | :) | 10:24 |
| Vajb | ask another question maybe? | 10:24 |
| Vajb | :) | 10:24 |
| Maxdamantus | Miksi saa haluat suomesta? | 10:25 |
| Vajb | lol | 10:25 |
| Vajb | why i want from finland? Hmm that's though one. | 10:25 |
| Vajb | or actually saa is short from saada which is to get | 10:26 |
| KotCzarny | gtranslated conversation? :) | 10:26 |
| Maxdamantus | sa* | 10:26 |
| KotCzarny | Why do you want in from Finland ? | 10:26 |
| KotCzarny | (gtranslated) | 10:27 |
| Vajb | -in | 10:27 |
| Maxdamantus | er, sä | 10:27 |
| Vajb | litelary | 10:27 |
| KotCzarny | http://www.pdftoepub.com/authorspromotion.asp | 10:28 |
| KotCzarny | free promo for converter | 10:28 |
| Maxdamantus | maybe it should be something more like "miksi sä haluat olla suomesta?" | 10:28 |
| Maxdamantus | dunno. | 10:28 |
| * Maxdamantus should try to learn it better. | 10:28 | |
| Vajb | then it asks "why do you want to be from finland" | 10:28 |
| Maxdamantus | Yes, that's what I meant. | 10:29 |
| Vajb | well they didn't let me choose | 10:29 |
| Maxdamantus | actually, I think I meant haluaisit | 10:29 |
| Vajb | ah yes. Well it wasn't wish, but actual fact. | 10:30 |
| Vajb | and sä is more like slang word of sinä | 10:30 |
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| drawkula | who manages the talk.maemo.org blacklist? | 16:55 |
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| drawkula | ok... need to go rl... | 17:03 |
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| bencoh | drawkula: techstaff at maemo.org | 17:55 |
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| drawkula | bencoh: thanks! | 18:53 |
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| Sicelo | so how does Maxdamantus' car lock work? :/ sounds like he's got some elaborate vehicle | 22:52 |
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| KotCzarny | sicelo, many cars you can open via button press, ie. you need something from trunk, then they relock automatically (if driver or passenger door wasnt opened in the meantime) | 22:57 |
| KotCzarny | my gf's skoda fabia from 2004 has such logic | 22:59 |
| KotCzarny | dont know if it changed for better or worse with newer cars | 22:59 |
| Sicelo | and if your key is in the trunk when said timer elapses? | 23:01 |
| KotCzarny | then you have to find spare keys | 23:03 |
| KotCzarny | if you are lucky you have few minutes of walk | 23:03 |
| Sicelo | it was sounding like someone has better lock system | 23:03 |
| KotCzarny | but if you open the door in the meantime timer is disabled | 23:04 |
| KotCzarny | so i guess it was meant for such 'i just need something from the trunk' | 23:05 |
| KotCzarny | or for accidental unlocks | 23:05 |
| KotCzarny | ie. if you unlock but dont open anything then it will relock in few minutes | 23:05 |
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| Sicelo | apt-get remove --purge bnf. :-[ | 23:35 |
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