IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2015-09-10

Sicelocrazy pattern. why would someone need it?00:07
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KotCzarnydont know, maybe similar to old people needing audibly ticking clock00:07
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DocScrutinizer05Sicelo: ooh, actually the default breathing light is a white slow pulsing, until you change that to something more useful00:31
keriogood old battery drain00:31
DocScrutinizer05kerio: nah. that's a mere 5mA with a duty cycle of <1/10, so the battery would support it for some 2500h00:32
kerioi was going to say that it reduces the lifespan00:32
keriobut it's really about the same as leaving a notification unread isnt it00:33
DocScrutinizer05less probably00:33
KotCzarnybut difference being its pulsing all the time00:33
KotCzarnyinstead of just on notifications sometimes00:33
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Sicelomy question was more on .. why does one need "confirmation" that the device is on? i found it weird, and never once enabled that00:33
DocScrutinizer05Sicelo: I like to know my device is on and I'm actually seeing any possible notification00:34
DocScrutinizer05Sicelo: you know, and decent warning lamp is not off/red but green/red for the same reason00:35
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: Sicelo: you know, any decent warning lamp is not off/red but green/red for the same reason00:35
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kerioactually something that i'd like is nand and usd activity on the led00:35
DocScrutinizer05that's so damn easy00:36
keriothe sheevaplug can do it00:36
KotCzarnycpu maybe?00:36
DocScrutinizer05kerio check out /sys/*/*/$LED nodes00:36
keriodoes it have nand-disk?00:36
kerioalso, won't mce complain00:36
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DocScrutinizer05cat   /sys/class/leds/lp5523:b/trigger     ->[none] timer heartbeat mmc0 mmc100:38
DocScrutinizer05no NAND00:38
keriothe sheevaplug's blue led has nand-disk as one of the triggers00:39
DocScrutinizer05recompile the kernel module (if it's even a module)00:39
DocScrutinizer05I never wrapped my head around why them kerneldevs *hardcoded* the pissoble triggers00:40
DocScrutinizer05possible* :-P00:40
DocScrutinizer05actually that trigger thing looks pretty much like a hack or an afterthought00:41
DocScrutinizer05don't tell Poettering about it, he will see a usecase for kdbus in it00:42
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PaliDocScrutinizer05: trigger is feature of linux kernel led subsystem00:47
Paliit can be extended by any new trigger (just writing .ko module)00:47
KotCzarnydoc, catalogs can be disabled in: /etc/hildon-application-manager/catalogues00:48
infobot'sth is poettering' means it acts invasive, possessive, destructive, and generally in an egocentric exacerbating negative way. ``this cancer is extremely poettering'', or you look here for Linus' notion on what's poettering:, or, or see ~systemd cabal00:48
KotCzarnybecause ham and speedyham uses it and overwrites /etc/apte one00:48
DocScrutinizer05Pali: ((feature of linux kernel led subsystem)) of course.  ((can be extended)) yes, that's what I suggested00:50
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DocScrutinizer05KotCzarny: ok, B rating for being late on repeating what I told you. If you had been faster, it could have been an A00:52
KotCzarny<DocScrutinizer05> edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list et al00:54
KotCzarnythis is wring00:54
DocScrutinizer05no it's not00:54
DocScrutinizer05you are wrong00:54
KotCzarnyif one uses ham or speedyham its wrong00:54
DocScrutinizer05google "et al"00:54
KotCzarnynope, your answer is wrong00:55
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KotCzarnystill wrong.00:55
DocScrutinizer05F U00:55
KotCzarnyright answer is pointing to /etc/hildon-application-manager/catalogues00:56
DocScrutinizer05honestly google for "idot"00:56
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DocScrutinizer05idiot even00:56
KotCzarnygoogle bully00:56
DocScrutinizer05I don't need your lessons on maemo management00:57
KotCzarnyyou clearly written 'edit /etc/apt'00:57
KotCzarnynot 'google ..'00:57
DocScrutinizer05you clearly ignored "et al"00:57
DocScrutinizer05you prolly never heard it00:57
KotCzarnyany wrong answer could be appended by 'et al'00:58
DocScrutinizer05and you act not like 14 year old as I suggested a few weeks ago, you act like a 7 year old00:58
KotCzarnyand you act like a bully00:58
DocScrutinizer05yes, and you're begging for a ban instead a kick00:59
KotCzarnyprovided wrong answer, then kicking, then suggesting 'et al mean google'00:59
DocScrutinizer05OMG you really are a tad thick, eh?00:59
DocScrutinizer05yeah better that00:59
DocScrutinizer05>>google "et al"<< vs >>suggesting 'et al mean google'<<01:00
KotCzarny    And others; to complete a list, especially of people, as authors of a published work.01:01
DocScrutinizer05hoory another B for finally getting the meaning of a 2 items "sentence"01:01
DocScrutinizer05now rethink >>"edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list et al (*and others*) "  this is wrong <<01:03
KotCzarnyyou are using "et al" wrong01:03
KotCzarnyalso, sleepy time. nite nite01:03
DocScrutinizer05STFU twit01:03
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Sicelolibshiboken .. what a weird name!01:25
* DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders if that guy is a relative of estel_ - or maybe even himself01:28
DocScrutinizer05Sicelo: yeah I always wondered what it reminds me to01:28
DocScrutinizer05there are a few weird names, shiboken, pango, and then some more01:29
DocScrutinizer05only can find shibboleth01:30
DocScrutinizer05and pangolin01:30
DocScrutinizer05or maybe pingo01:31
DocScrutinizer05s/himself/is estel himself/01:35
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chem|ststryngs: what is your question exactly? For your packages and /opt, iirc there used to be optification scripts to have $data opted, those you can just upload to extras-devel to test normal deployment and dependency issues, then you promote to extras-testing where people test your stuff and then it gets promoted some day to extras...11:40
chem|stI just returned from vacation with 600+ emails to walk through11:41
KotCzarnyselect all, delete?11:41
KotCzarny[x] yes  [ ] no11:42
chem|stKotCzarny: some of them reoccure if I do not answer ;)11:42
KotCzarnythat means they be important then ;)11:43
KotCzarnyok, anyone got some idea how to chip off piece of magnet to fit in place of missing one in n900's cover?11:44
chem|stI already deleted most notification stuff11:44
KotCzarnyhmm, maybe i just can use piece of steel and magnetize it11:46
chem|stKotCzarny: isn't it that T shaped part next to the camera cover?11:46
KotCzarnychemist: its the part under the foot11:46
chem|sthow did you remove it?11:46
KotCzarnyi bought 'broken' n900 very cheap (~25usd) which turned out to simply be missing that little bit of magnet11:47
chem|stah the stand's magnet...11:47
chem|stI have a 2m coil of magnet band that is about the same thickness11:47
KotCzarnyim considering chipping off some magnet or just buying replacement cover (~3usd)11:48
chem|stKotCzarny: go for the new cover... $3 isn't worth the hassle11:49
KotCzarnyit's the wait11:49
KotCzarnyi'm always trying to fix stuff anyway11:50
KotCzarnyeven if i buy replacements11:50
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vectisKotCzarny: try a craft shop for magnetic sheets, you can get it over here for diy fridge magnets.12:15
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zGrrmoin :)12:49
KotCzarnyvectis, if i find such thing locally, yeah, otherwise chipping magnet or steel magnetized piece is max i'm gonna invest in it12:57
KotCzarnyfrom my tests closing magnetized screedriver works, so there is hope magnetic field doesnt have to be strong13:02
KotCzarnyok, chip is quite big, but works13:14
KotCzarnyit will do till the cover arrives13:14
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ceenei'd happily pay 25usd for a second n900 to tinker with15:36
ceenedo you have one?15:37
KotCzarnythere is another for ~34usd right now15:37
KotCzarnybrowse local classifieds?15:37
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ceene65EUR Vendo Nokia N900 y va para whatsapp... precio NO NEGOCIABLE15:39
ceenei could always break yappari and told him no! whatsapp won't work!15:39
ceenei'll pay 30EUR tops15:39
KotCzarnyceene, thing with classifieds is that you have to monitor it every few days15:41
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merlin1991re speedyham, it's part of cssu-t since 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo10 (24.12.2014)17:02
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DocScrutinizer05merlin1991: watch out to not give "wrong answer", he asked about cssu stable17:38
DocScrutinizer05(saying this since this guy is a pest to prove you did something wrong, even when you simply want to help him)17:39
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DocScrutinizer05first he didn't know at all what "et al" means, 5 minutes later he tried to correct me about me using "et al" wrong17:42
DocScrutinizer05no matter what, anyway I gave wrong answer to him, that's certain17:44
DocScrutinizer05I hate when somebody tells I'm wrong when I'm not17:45
DocScrutinizer05I love when somebody asks "are you sure" when I'm wrong17:46
kerioyou're wrong17:47
DocScrutinizer05no i'm BAD17:47
kerioare you sure?17:47
DocScrutinizer05hehehe, not really17:47
DocScrutinizer05sometimes I think I might be bad, but then... more often then not I notice I'm not as bad as many others17:48
Vajbbad to the bone17:50
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WizzupAny clue if it would be possible to use the sim card slot/reader in the n900 as a general purpose card reader?18:43
WizzupOr is it too coupled with the modem?18:43
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ceeneso it seems i'm gonna need to implement textsecure into yappari19:32
ceenei don't want to :( i don't have that much time nor energy19:32
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DocScrutinizer05Wizzup: it's connected *only* to the modem22:42
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* Sicelo has just joined his first LUG :)23:51
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WizzupDocScrutinizer05: oh well23:53
DocScrutinizer05taht's life. Get a Neo900 ;-)23:53
WizzupDocScrutinizer05: wanted to use a openphp smartcard23:53
WizzupDocScrutinizer05: I ... ordered one :)23:53
DocScrutinizer05there you get dual SIM slot and either of both can also get used as smartcard reader23:54
DocScrutinizer05indeed, isn't it :-)23:55
Wizzupif I have spare monies I may go for a second neon23:55
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L29Ahdo you like a playlist-based player?23:58
DocScrutinizer05hmm, usually not really23:59

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