| Sicelo | crazy pattern. why would someone need it? | 00:07 |
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| KotCzarny | dont know, maybe similar to old people needing audibly ticking clock | 00:07 |
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| Sicelo | :D | 00:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: ooh, actually the default breathing light is a white slow pulsing, until you change that to something more useful | 00:31 |
| kerio | good old battery drain | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: nah. that's a mere 5mA with a duty cycle of <1/10, so the battery would support it for some 2500h | 00:32 |
| KotCzarny | still | 00:32 |
| kerio | hm | 00:32 |
| kerio | i was going to say that it reduces the lifespan | 00:32 |
| kerio | but it's really about the same as leaving a notification unread isnt it | 00:33 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | less probably | 00:33 |
| KotCzarny | but difference being its pulsing all the time | 00:33 |
| KotCzarny | instead of just on notifications sometimes | 00:33 |
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| Sicelo | my question was more on .. why does one need "confirmation" that the device is on? i found it weird, and never once enabled that | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: I like to know my device is on and I'm actually seeing any possible notification | 00:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: you know, and decent warning lamp is not off/red but green/red for the same reason | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/and/any/ | 00:35 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: Sicelo: you know, any decent warning lamp is not off/red but green/red for the same reason | 00:35 |
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| kerio | actually something that i'd like is nand and usd activity on the led | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's so damn easy | 00:36 |
| kerio | the sheevaplug can do it | 00:36 |
| KotCzarny | cpu maybe? | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio check out /sys/*/*/$LED nodes | 00:36 |
| kerio | does it have nand-disk? | 00:36 |
| kerio | also, won't mce complain | 00:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | cat /sys/class/leds/lp5523:b/trigger ->[none] timer heartbeat mmc0 mmc1 | 00:38 |
| kerio | neat | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no NAND | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-/ | 00:38 |
| kerio | the sheevaplug's blue led has nand-disk as one of the triggers | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | recompile the kernel module (if it's even a module) | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I never wrapped my head around why them kerneldevs *hardcoded* the pissoble triggers | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | possible* :-P | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually that trigger thing looks pretty much like a hack or an afterthought | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | don't tell Poettering about it, he will see a usecase for kdbus in it | 00:42 |
| kerio | systemd-ledd | 00:42 |
| kerio | systemd-blinkend | 00:42 |
| KotCzarny | systemd-keypressed | 00:43 |
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| Pali | DocScrutinizer05: trigger is feature of linux kernel led subsystem | 00:47 |
| Pali | it can be extended by any new trigger (just writing .ko module) | 00:47 |
| KotCzarny | doc, catalogs can be disabled in: /etc/hildon-application-manager/catalogues | 00:48 |
| Pali | ~poettering | 00:48 |
| infobot | 'sth is poettering' means it acts invasive, possessive, destructive, and generally in an egocentric exacerbating negative way. ``this cancer is extremely poettering'', or you look here for Linus' notion on what's poettering: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01331.html, or http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1404.0/01488.html, or see ~systemd cabal | 00:48 |
| KotCzarny | because ham and speedyham uses it and overwrites /etc/apte one | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: ((feature of linux kernel led subsystem)) of course. ((can be extended)) yes, that's what I suggested | 00:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | KotCzarny: ok, B rating for being late on repeating what I told you. If you had been faster, it could have been an A | 00:52 |
| KotCzarny | <DocScrutinizer05> edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list et al | 00:54 |
| KotCzarny | this is wring | 00:54 |
| KotCzarny | *wrong | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no it's not | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you are wrong | 00:54 |
| KotCzarny | if one uses ham or speedyham its wrong | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | google "et al" | 00:54 |
| KotCzarny | nope, your answer is wrong | 00:55 |
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| KotCzarny | still wrong. | 00:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | F U | 00:55 |
| Sicelo | owh! | 00:56 |
| KotCzarny | right answer is pointing to /etc/hildon-application-manager/catalogues | 00:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | honestly google for "idot" | 00:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | idiot even | 00:56 |
| KotCzarny | google bully | 00:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't need your lessons on maemo management | 00:57 |
| KotCzarny | you clearly written 'edit /etc/apt' | 00:57 |
| KotCzarny | not 'google ..' | 00:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you clearly ignored "et al" | 00:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you prolly never heard it | 00:57 |
| KotCzarny | any wrong answer could be appended by 'et al' | 00:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and you act not like 14 year old as I suggested a few weeks ago, you act like a 7 year old | 00:58 |
| KotCzarny | and you act like a bully | 00:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, and you're begging for a ban instead a kick | 00:59 |
| KotCzarny | provided wrong answer, then kicking, then suggesting 'et al mean google' | 00:59 |
| KotCzarny | *means | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | OMG you really are a tad thick, eh? | 00:59 |
| KotCzarny | eot. | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah better that | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>google "et al"<< vs >>suggesting 'et al mean google'<< | 01:00 |
| KotCzarny | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/et_al. | 01:01 |
| KotCzarny | And others; to complete a list, especially of people, as authors of a published work. | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hoory another B for finally getting the meaning of a 2 items "sentence" | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | now rethink >>"edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list et al (*and others*) " this is wrong << | 01:03 |
| KotCzarny | you are using "et al" wrong | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aha | 01:03 |
| KotCzarny | also, sleepy time. nite nite | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | STFU twit | 01:03 |
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| Sicelo | libshiboken .. what a weird name! | 01:25 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders if that guy is a relative of estel_ - or maybe even himself | 01:28 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: yeah I always wondered what it reminds me to | 01:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there are a few weird names, shiboken, pango, and then some more | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | only can find shibboleth | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and pangolin | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or maybe pingo | 01:31 |
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| chem|st | stryngs: what is your question exactly? For your packages and /opt, iirc there used to be optification scripts to have $data opted, those you can just upload to extras-devel to test normal deployment and dependency issues, then you promote to extras-testing where people test your stuff and then it gets promoted some day to extras... | 11:40 |
| chem|st | I just returned from vacation with 600+ emails to walk through | 11:41 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 11:41 |
| bencoh | :] | 11:41 |
| KotCzarny | select all, delete? | 11:41 |
| KotCzarny | [x] yes [ ] no | 11:42 |
| chem|st | KotCzarny: some of them reoccure if I do not answer ;) | 11:42 |
| KotCzarny | that means they be important then ;) | 11:43 |
| KotCzarny | ok, anyone got some idea how to chip off piece of magnet to fit in place of missing one in n900's cover? | 11:44 |
| chem|st | I already deleted most notification stuff | 11:44 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, maybe i just can use piece of steel and magnetize it | 11:46 |
| chem|st | KotCzarny: isn't it that T shaped part next to the camera cover? | 11:46 |
| KotCzarny | chemist: its the part under the foot | 11:46 |
| chem|st | how did you remove it? | 11:46 |
| KotCzarny | i bought 'broken' n900 very cheap (~25usd) which turned out to simply be missing that little bit of magnet | 11:47 |
| chem|st | ah the stand's magnet... | 11:47 |
| chem|st | I have a 2m coil of magnet band that is about the same thickness | 11:47 |
| KotCzarny | im considering chipping off some magnet or just buying replacement cover (~3usd) | 11:48 |
| chem|st | KotCzarny: go for the new cover... $3 isn't worth the hassle | 11:49 |
| KotCzarny | it's the wait | 11:49 |
| KotCzarny | i'm always trying to fix stuff anyway | 11:50 |
| KotCzarny | even if i buy replacements | 11:50 |
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| vectis | KotCzarny: try a craft shop for magnetic sheets, you can get it over here for diy fridge magnets. | 12:15 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 12:49 |
| KotCzarny | vectis, if i find such thing locally, yeah, otherwise chipping magnet or steel magnetized piece is max i'm gonna invest in it | 12:57 |
| KotCzarny | from my tests closing magnetized screedriver works, so there is hope magnetic field doesnt have to be strong | 13:02 |
| KotCzarny | ok, chip is quite big, but works | 13:14 |
| KotCzarny | it will do till the cover arrives | 13:14 |
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| ceene | i'd happily pay 25usd for a second n900 to tinker with | 15:36 |
| ceene | :) | 15:36 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 15:37 |
| ceene | do you have one? | 15:37 |
| ceene | :P | 15:37 |
| KotCzarny | there is another for ~34usd right now | 15:37 |
| KotCzarny | browse local classifieds? | 15:37 |
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| ceene | 65EUR Vendo Nokia N900 y va para whatsapp... precio NO NEGOCIABLE | 15:39 |
| ceene | hehe | 15:39 |
| ceene | i could always break yappari and told him no! whatsapp won't work! | 15:39 |
| ceene | i'll pay 30EUR tops | 15:39 |
| ceene | s/told/tell/ | 15:41 |
| ceene | :P | 15:41 |
| KotCzarny | ceene, thing with classifieds is that you have to monitor it every few days | 15:41 |
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| merlin1991 | re speedyham, it's part of cssu-t since 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo10 (24.12.2014) | 17:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | or http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/pool/fremantle/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-2_armel.deb | 17:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: watch out to not give "wrong answer", he asked about cssu stable | 17:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (saying this since this guy is a pest to prove you did something wrong, even when you simply want to help him) | 17:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | first he didn't know at all what "et al" means, 5 minutes later he tried to correct me about me using "et al" wrong | 17:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no matter what, anyway I gave wrong answer to him, that's certain | 17:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I hate when somebody tells I'm wrong when I'm not | 17:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I love when somebody asks "are you sure" when I'm wrong | 17:46 |
| kerio | you're wrong | 17:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no i'm BAD | 17:47 |
| kerio | are you sure? | 17:47 |
| kerio | :3 | 17:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hehehe, not really | 17:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sometimes I think I might be bad, but then... more often then not I notice I'm not as bad as many others | 17:48 |
| Vajb | bad to the bone | 17:50 |
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| Wizzup | Any clue if it would be possible to use the sim card slot/reader in the n900 as a general purpose card reader? | 18:43 |
| Wizzup | Or is it too coupled with the modem? | 18:43 |
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| ceene | so it seems i'm gonna need to implement textsecure into yappari | 19:32 |
| ceene | i don't want to :( i don't have that much time nor energy | 19:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Wizzup: it's connected *only* to the modem | 22:42 |
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| Wizzup | DocScrutinizer05: oh well | 23:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | taht's life. Get a Neo900 ;-) | 23:53 |
| Wizzup | DocScrutinizer05: wanted to use a openphp smartcard | 23:53 |
| Wizzup | DocScrutinizer05: I ... ordered one :) | 23:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ | 23:53 |
| Wizzup | openpgp* | 23:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there you get dual SIM slot and either of both can also get used as smartcard reader | 23:54 |
| Wizzup | awesome.... | 23:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | indeed, isn't it :-) | 23:55 |
| Wizzup | if I have spare monies I may go for a second neon | 23:55 |
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| L29Ah | do you like a playlist-based player? | 23:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, usually not really | 23:59 |
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