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| DocScrutinizer05 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimax | 00:00 |
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| Oksanaa | Funny: http://erikbern.com/2014/11/29/deep-learning-for-chess/ | 00:31 |
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| nwolf900 | Hi all, I'm a fresh N900 user; anyone got any idea what could have caused Hildon's orientation change to stop working? I've installed the CSSU update last night, orientation change appeared to be working after the first reboot; but I've installed a bunch of other apps and rebooted a few more times when today I noticed that it had stopped working.. maybe a particular packaged could have caused this? | 05:36 |
| nwolf900 | Hi all, I'm a fresh N900 user; anyone got any idea what could have caused Hildon's orientation change to stop working? I've installed the CSSU update last night, orientation change appeared to be working after the first reboot; but I've installed a bunch of other apps and rebooted a few more times when today I noticed that it had stopped working.. maybe a particular packaged could have caused this? | 05:36 |
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| mtnman | hello all maemoans | 06:53 |
| mtnman | or is it maemoers? | 06:54 |
| mtnman | maemoites? | 06:54 |
| mtnman | is there anybody out there? | 06:54 |
| mtnman | just not if you can hear me... | 06:54 |
| mtnman | nod even | 06:54 |
| jon_y | maemo's DEAD! | 06:58 |
| jon_y | DEAAAAAAAAD! | 06:58 |
| jon_y | :) | 06:58 |
| mtnman | what? | 06:59 |
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| KotCzarny | oksanaa: yes, it works | 07:57 |
| KotCzarny | most likely diablo's elinks isnt compiled with ssl | 07:58 |
| KotCzarny | oksana: if you want i can try compiling it for diablo too and see | 08:02 |
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| Vajb | nwolf900: do you have cssu-features installed? Also check from "clockmenu or powerkeymeny" that you dont have orientation lock ticked. | 10:15 |
| Vajb | question about qml-browser. Is there a way to make it zoom in if click of a link wasn't precice enough? That's how opera behaves and i got used to feature. | 10:23 |
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| Vajb | nvm. I think it's no longer needed. I installed new screen protector and can safely say that I should have done it few months ago. | 11:30 |
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| KotCzarny | vajb, i havent used qml-browser, but did you try two finger zoom or volume key? | 11:33 |
| Vajb | it zooms via volume keys, but that's not what i needed | 11:37 |
| Vajb | i wanted something like from 100% to 200% with one tap | 11:38 |
| KotCzarny | so you mean some automatic misclick detection? | 11:38 |
| KotCzarny | or just zoom-on-tap in the non-link place? | 11:38 |
| Vajb | i guess volume key does 10% at a time | 11:39 |
| Vajb | if there is two links close to each other and screen can't tell which i tap it could zoom in to make them bigger and easier to tap. | 11:40 |
| Vajb | and this is the place where someone tells me to use "pen" :) | 11:41 |
| KotCzarny | of nail | 11:41 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 11:41 |
| Vajb | :p | 11:48 |
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| Wizzup | hmm... | 12:29 |
| Wizzup | wanting to dual boot and I get this error when trying to install "U-Boot with kernel 2.6.28-omap1": "!!!U-Boot with kernel 2.6.28-omap1 breaks the 3rd party package policy" | 12:30 |
| Wizzup | (I want to dual boot so I can try the mainline kernel.) | 12:30 |
| Wizzup | trying it using apt-get now | 12:32 |
| Sicelo | conflits with PK? | 12:32 |
| Wizzup | That seems to work | 12:32 |
| Wizzup | I don't think I have PK installed on this one | 12:32 |
| Wizzup | This is pretty much plain flash + cssu update | 12:32 |
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| kerio | Wizzup: honestly, for stuff like that you probably want to use apt-get, to keep as much control over what's happening as possible | 12:47 |
| Wizzup | I did | 12:48 |
| Wizzup | :) | 12:48 |
| Vajb | any advice how to turn off that blue led caused by usbhostmode? Without reboot. | 12:53 |
| Vajb | stop-start mce turns it off temporarily, but it's lit immediately after mce restarts | 12:54 |
| kerio | i get all sorts of leds stuck every once in a while | 12:55 |
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| Sicelo | Vajb: reboot only :) | 12:57 |
| Sicelo | email Pali .. he wanted to fix it | 12:57 |
| Vajb | meh | 12:57 |
| Sicelo | btw, it only happens on one of my N900. the other is perfectly fine. i wish i knew why the difference | 12:58 |
| Wizzup | Vajb: I just switch the n900 to non hostmode and it turns off | 12:58 |
| Sicelo | so Wizzup's got a good one :) | 12:59 |
| Sicelo | Vajb: you're on thumb? | 12:59 |
| Sicelo | my "bad" one is a thumb device, and the "good" one is not. both are CSSU, and same kernel | 13:00 |
| Vajb | Sicelo: that's what it used to do for me too, but today it failed to make hostmode connection. And now led is lit no matter what | 13:00 |
| Sicelo | maybe i should compare their mce.ini | 13:00 |
| Vajb | even succesfull host mode on and off | 13:00 |
| Wizzup | I think my good one is on thumb | 13:04 |
| Vajb | argh i thought i did it, but it's back | 13:06 |
| Vajb | sent dbus deactivate to PatternBoost | 13:06 |
| Vajb | it was off like 10 seconds | 13:07 |
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| KotCzarny | something turns it on apparently | 13:41 |
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| Vajb | hmm could it be? | 13:46 |
| Vajb | ;) | 13:47 |
| Vajb | mdbus2 has no info on com.nokia.mce | 13:47 |
| Vajb | saw two instances of mce in powertop results, but killing highest priority one made just same effect than stop mce | 13:49 |
| Vajb | going for lower one now | 13:49 |
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| Vajb | 10627 | 1 | mce | tsc2005_start_scan (tsc2005_esd_timer_handler) | 13:59 |
| Vajb | that shows up in powertop but that pid doesn't excist when i try to kill it | 13:59 |
| Vajb | reboot | 14:01 |
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| Vajb | after reboot there is just one instance of mce | 14:07 |
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| Pali | hi, if you need to test patched usbmode.sh, please drop me email | 14:28 |
| Pali | Sicelo Vajb 6 | 14:28 |
| Pali | 6 | 14:28 |
| Pali | ^ | 14:28 |
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| Vajb | Pali: to do that i need your email address | 14:36 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 15:12 |
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| nwolf900 | 10x, Vajb | 15:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: I got sth for you to chew on ;-) https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/msm/+/f632ea92329bc9197daf02ea4baceddceb89a6be/drivers/char/diag Maybe you can understand the structure (way faster than I would) and tell me how it basically works (upward interface, downward interface (which I suppose is HSI or SDI)) - we would like to have that thing for USB attached Qualcomm chipset. Is it feasible? | 16:12 |
| Pali | "This enables diagchar for maemo usb gadget" | 16:13 |
| Pali | what is that?? | 16:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | what?? | 16:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | where? | 16:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I just found https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/msm/+/f632ea92329bc9197daf02ea4baceddceb89a6be/drivers/char/diag/diagchar.h#108 | 16:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: am I right that this driver could link a /dev/diag_char (or whatever the name) to a USB? | 16:20 |
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| Pali | https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/msm/+/f632ea92329bc9197daf02ea4baceddceb89a6be/drivers/char/diag/Kconfig#10 | 16:20 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05: I do not know now | 16:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LOL | 16:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | @maemo | 16:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: we got a Qualcomm chipset in PHS8, there's https://opensource.srlabs.de/projects/snoopsnitch that needs Qualcomm DIAG_CHAR kernel driver to work, and there's https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/msm/+/f632ea92329bc9197daf02ea4baceddceb89a6be/drivers/char/diag/Kconfig#10 and https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/msm/+/f632ea92329bc9197daf02ea4baceddceb89a6be/drivers/char/diag/diagchar.h#108 | 16:28 |
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| kerio | infobot just warned me that IRCing as root is a bad idea | 17:06 |
| infobot | that's too long, kerio | 17:06 |
| kerio | sod off | 17:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, maybe there's an onjoin for kerio configured in infobot? | 17:47 |
| kerio | no, my hostmask matched *!root@* | 17:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | infobot doesn't do that sort of automatic messages afaik | 17:48 |
| kerio | on the other hand | 17:48 |
| kerio | IT DID | 17:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, maybe because I once asked it to do ;-) | 17:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | years ago | 17:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | however such onjoin always is for particular users, so I had exactly you in mind when asking infobot to do this (*if* I even did) | 17:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'll sort it out, sorry for the inconvenience | 17:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | at least I'll try to find out what's going on and stop it | 17:50 |
| rootie | hrm, no ident on this server | 17:50 |
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| Vajb | up with new usbmode.sh | 19:36 |
| Vajb | Pali: it says "error: setting usb mode is not supported" | 19:38 |
| Vajb | when i click usb mode in menu | 19:38 |
| Vajb | i replaced file and rebooted | 19:38 |
| Pali | and is script working? | 19:38 |
| Vajb | how to confirm? | 19:39 |
| Pali | run it? | 19:39 |
| Vajb | it works if i run it in terminal, but not from menu | 19:41 |
| Vajb | trying host mode now | 19:41 |
| Vajb | same problem persist. Blue led is lit and ca't be turned of | 19:45 |
| Vajb | host mode works tho | 19:45 |
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| Vajb | back | 22:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, Pali forgot that Vajb is a end user who needs precise instructions e.g. regarding sudo gainroot (aka simply `root`) etc | 22:25 |
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| Vajb | DocScrutinizer05: we debugged till Pali asked me to compile hald-addon-bme and we decided to wait for Sicelo's output :D | 22:39 |
| Vajb | err DocScrutinizer05 compile hald-addon-bme with debug symbols | 22:40 |
| Vajb | but im just wondering am i the only end user in this channel? Or others are wiser and shut up :D | 22:44 |
| KotCzarny | hehe | 22:44 |
| KotCzarny | truth is end users dont know about irc | 22:44 |
| KotCzarny | so anyone on irc is considered above 'end user' | 22:45 |
| Vajb | oooh! So im finally that exception that makes the rule :) | 22:46 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 22:46 |
| KotCzarny | once you discovered irc, you are not end user anymore | 22:46 |
| Vajb | hmm does it count if i discovered irc ten years before i bought maemo device? | 22:47 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 22:47 |
| Vajb | hmm actually 12 years | 22:47 |
| KotCzarny | doesnt matter when, if you know irc, you arent classical luser anymore | 22:47 |
| Vajb | so that makes me more like ameba which doesn't develope | 22:48 |
| KotCzarny | you apparently never met/supported luser | 22:49 |
| Vajb | i think i did, but under different circumstations. | 22:51 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 22:51 |
| Vajb | and i suppose any lusers cut&paste abilities are brilliant :) | 22:53 |
| KotCzarny | you would be surprised | 22:53 |
| Vajb | well obviously they need how and where also | 22:54 |
| KotCzarny | asking them to paste sudo rm -rf / in the terminal sometimes works | 22:55 |
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| Vajb | hmm this sounds very much like deltree and so on under windows | 22:56 |
| KotCzarny | yup | 22:56 |
| Vajb | what is -rf exactly? | 22:56 |
| KotCzarny | in original it was seven letters of doom for noobs | 22:57 |
| KotCzarny | -r is recursive, -f is force (ie. dont ask) | 22:57 |
| Vajb | ah | 22:57 |
| Vajb | so basically remove evything ask nothing | 22:57 |
| KotCzarny | yup | 22:57 |
| KotCzarny | thats why one should never paste unknown commands | 22:58 |
| KotCzarny | read about shell bomb too | 22:58 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 22:58 |
| Vajb | cool. Now we just need an app for it :) | 22:58 |
| Vajb | well that's just common sense | 22:59 |
| KotCzarny | as i said, you would be surprised | 23:05 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 23:05 |
| Vajb | heh. Vajb in wonderland | 23:07 |
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