| kopple | are there any good web browsers for maemo? | 00:00 |
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| kopple | other than the built-in one | 00:01 |
| kopple | as you said, this seems to be a rare problem but not new either. No one I read ever fixed from the pages I found | 00:02 |
| Vajb_ | try opera from extras repo | 00:03 |
| Vajb_ | that's what i use when i need to browse | 00:04 |
| kopple | thanks, I'm trying. Just as always, the app. manager taking forever | 00:05 |
| kopple | one of the repos are giving me issues. Currently my active ones are freemantle ssu app, mr0, extras, extras-devel | 00:09 |
| kopple | is giving* | 00:10 |
| slapin | hi, all! | 00:10 |
| slapin | is there any mirrors of downloads.maemo.nokia.com stuff? | 00:10 |
| kopple | slapin, as far as I know.. nope . You're looking for software? | 00:13 |
| slapin | kopple: I'd like to install maemo sdks and add some packages compatible with maemo5 which are dependency but was not installed by default | 00:16 |
| slapin | kopple: I also looking for GPS test UI app, which allowed me to actually use GPS, as it won't start without this app | 00:17 |
| kopple | others could help more, I'm sorry | 00:17 |
| slapin | it is pity they sut these off before I finished my mirror :( | 00:18 |
| slapin | *shut | 00:18 |
| kopple | it's long gone as far as I remember | 00:18 |
| KotCzarny | there is one still working | 00:19 |
| KotCzarny | also, someone torrented it, might still be seeding | 00:20 |
| KotCzarny | kopple: there are few browser, fennec (old mobile firefox), tear, midori, opera | 00:20 |
| KotCzarny | s/browser/browsers/ | 00:21 |
| infobot | KotCzarny meant: kopple: there are few browsers, fennec (old mobile firefox), tear, midori, opera | 00:21 |
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| kopple | KotCzarny: UserAgentTool needs CSSU to work. I know this is the wrong question, but is it a demanding task to enable them but most of all.. is it risky? I can't risk my phone right now | 00:29 |
| KotCzarny | kopple, backup it (see backupmenu) | 00:30 |
| KotCzarny | then in case of something going awry, you can simply reflash and restore backup | 00:30 |
| KotCzarny | as for user agent, maybe there is other tool that works | 00:31 |
| KotCzarny | ~useragent | 00:31 |
| KotCzarny | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=512567&postcount=6 | 00:32 |
| KotCzarny | maybe this one | 00:32 |
| kopple | gosh, I need empty space to back up onto which I don't have. Unless.. backing up the system doesn't give a very large image | 00:33 |
| kopple | will look into your last suggestion, thanks | 00:34 |
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| bencoh | kopple: (isp/403) I had this issue as well with a phone service provider | 01:11 |
| kopple | bencoh: thanks, how did you cope? | 01:12 |
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| bencoh | ssh or changing the user-agent | 01:14 |
| kopple | ssh to a proxy? | 01:14 |
| bencoh | ssh -D to my serve | 01:15 |
| bencoh | server* | 01:15 |
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| kopple | oh ok, I don't have a server | 01:15 |
| KotCzarny | do you have decent connection at home? | 01:16 |
| kopple | I won't say no because I want to know what you suggest :) | 01:16 |
| KotCzarny | at least 1mbit uplink | 01:16 |
| KotCzarny | and 1mbit or more downlink | 01:16 |
| kopple | 20Kb/s, almost 1Mb download speed though. But anyway, this info could be useful anyway. | 01:17 |
| KotCzarny | then you buy one of those little openwrt router boxes, setup sshd on them and simply open tunnel to the home | 01:17 |
| bencoh | you might to check if ssh actually works first | 01:18 |
| KotCzarny | too slow i think, change user agent | 01:18 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, external ip is a must too | 01:19 |
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| KotCzarny | (at home) | 01:19 |
| kopple | KotCzarny: I do have external IP, thanks. BTW user-agent won't help, using Hide User Agent I still get the 403 | 01:19 |
| kopple | I want to learn more about the sshd | 01:19 |
| KotCzarny | did you hide the ua or changed it into firefox or some android one? | 01:20 |
| kopple | I set a non-sense one, I don't get a "hide" feature | 01:20 |
| bencoh | I'd a real one | 01:21 |
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| bencoh | like the one android or iOS use | 01:21 |
| kopple | it's meant to be the entire user agent, isn't it? I should type "Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_0 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/532.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.5 Mobile/8A293 Safari/6531.22.7" for example? | 01:23 |
| bencoh | I think there is an applet for that in maemo | 01:24 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 01:24 |
| bencoh | with predefined user-agents | 01:24 |
| kopple | can I enter something like "nothing better to read?" at the end? Lol | 01:25 |
| kopple | bencoh, it should be useragenttool but it doesn't work unless you have CSSU updates, which I don't. Thanks | 01:25 |
| bencoh | oh .. okay | 01:26 |
| kopple | I have just typed all that stuff, will try now | 01:27 |
| kopple | still 403 :( | 01:27 |
| kopple | maybe it's the program which isn't working? | 01:28 |
| KotCzarny | actually, wonder if you have to restart anything | 01:28 |
| KotCzarny | pity you cant easily check | 01:28 |
| KotCzarny | ahm, you can | 01:28 |
| KotCzarny | on wifi | 01:28 |
| KotCzarny | go to some site and make sure its actually used | 01:28 |
| kopple | I did restart the browser, I'm going to check out with a website I own if I can see a different UserAgent within logs with wifi | 01:29 |
| kopple | or maybe there's some website that prints your user agent..? | 01:29 |
| kopple | you won't believe it... www.whatsmyuseragent.com :D | 01:30 |
| KotCzarny | there is more than one | 01:30 |
| KotCzarny | keyword positioning etc | 01:30 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 01:30 |
| kopple | I guess so, that domain is for the dumb like me XD | 01:30 |
| KotCzarny | and for google | 01:31 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 01:31 |
| kopple | that's true :) | 01:31 |
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| kopple | they usually go on a pair, if it's actual English | 01:31 |
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| kopple | side-by-side. That's what I meant. And... the User Agent is... exactly the one I set! | 01:34 |
| kopple | the iPhone 4 user agent | 01:34 |
| KotCzarny | hmm | 01:35 |
| kopple | I'm going to give logs some poetry now | 01:35 |
| KotCzarny | maybe there is another reason you get 403 | 01:35 |
| kopple | and what could that be? It is given by the ISP, now we can be sure | 01:36 |
| KotCzarny | out of curiosity, switch to cellular data and check what ip address you get from ping google.com | 01:36 |
| kopple | ok, hold on | 01:37 |
| bencoh | hmm right | 01:38 |
| kopple | you think it's DNS? | 01:38 |
| KotCzarny | maybe they capture traffic because of some captive portal or unpaid service | 01:39 |
| bencoh | could be | 01:39 |
| KotCzarny | and while at it, on cellular, check if ping 8.8.8.8 gets through | 01:39 |
| kopple | 216.58.211.78 | 01:39 |
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| KotCzarny | also, try https://google.com | 01:40 |
| kopple | it seems it isn't connecting anymore | 01:40 |
| bencoh | 216.58.211.78 is google alright | 01:41 |
| kopple | bencoh may it be cache? I got a ping error since I wasn't root yet, then I realized I wasn't connected either | 01:41 |
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| bencoh | could be dnsmasq | 01:42 |
| kopple | I'm trying rebooting | 01:44 |
| kopple | now my User Agent has some personality btw | 01:44 |
| bencoh | personality ? | 01:45 |
| kopple | yes ! A message to the log reader | 01:46 |
| kopple | still rebooting | 01:46 |
| bencoh | :) | 01:46 |
| kopple | KotCzarny: it seems I can't ping 8.8.8.8, or anything at all | 01:48 |
| kopple | https://www.google.com is looping, loading nothing | 01:49 |
| kopple | while I can use the mail client | 01:50 |
| KotCzarny | so they blocked you regardles of ua, maybe they offer internet access to selected services | 01:50 |
| KotCzarny | call them maybe and check? | 01:51 |
| kopple | absolutely | 01:51 |
| KotCzarny | you can try setting sshd on fake email server port at home | 01:51 |
| KotCzarny | but first call them and make sure what internet service is included in your plan | 01:52 |
| kopple | right away, now I have a UA to show off. | 01:52 |
| kopple | Is sshd different from ssh? I have never used that either unfortunately. I could consider that | 01:52 |
| KotCzarny | sshd is the server, ssh is the client | 01:53 |
| KotCzarny | to setup ssh tunnel, you run ssh server at home (or something) + some http proxy (squid or something) then run ssh client on n900 with tunneling enabled, ie. ssh -L 80:127.0.0.1:8123 (or whatever port is squid listening to) | 01:54 |
| KotCzarny | but watch out to only allow squid to respond to localhost connections, otherwise you will make big security hole | 01:55 |
| kopple | oh god, something evil happened with my phone now :D It keeps sending out numbers with the tone keyboad during calls | 01:55 |
| DeusIX | I wonder whether my 7110's charger is compatible with N900 | 01:55 |
| kopple | KotCzarny: thanks | 01:55 |
| bencoh | kopple: tinyproxy | 01:56 |
| bencoh | it's a small mem footprint proxy | 01:56 |
| bencoh | and it has socks support for upstream | 01:56 |
| bencoh | (ssh -D acts as a proxy server which tunnels tcp connection through the ssh session) | 01:57 |
| kopple | socks support for upstream, what does it mean? | 01:58 |
| kopple | bencoh ssh -D is the command I'd need to launch? Also, as a dynamic IP owner should I use some sort of dynamic DNS in order to access my proxy at home via ssh? | 01:59 |
| bencoh | tinyproxy is an http proxy, but it can use a SOCKS server to proxify the outbound connections | 01:59 |
| kerio | KotCzarny: the default bind address for -L is localhost | 01:59 |
| kerio | thankfully | 01:59 |
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| KotCzarny | kerio, but still, proxy should be configured too | 02:03 |
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| kopple | tomorrow morning I'll call them and ask | 02:05 |
| chopix^ | hello guys | 02:05 |
| chopix^ | i deleted a file | 02:05 |
| chopix^ | is there a package like photorec | 02:05 |
| kopple | they apparently sleep at night | 02:05 |
| chopix^ | ^^ | 02:05 |
| kopple | chopix: looked at this ? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=43345 | 02:06 |
| chopix^ | i have a n9 | 02:06 |
| chopix^ | non a n900 | 02:06 |
| chopix^ | and im desperate^^ | 02:07 |
| chopix^ | ill try that btw | 02:07 |
| kopple | nobody is perfect | 02:07 |
| chopix^ | how can i access the pkg | 02:07 |
| chopix^ | directly? | 02:07 |
| kopple | there should be a .deb in that page | 02:08 |
| kopple | mm no, it's just a library .deb | 02:08 |
| chopix^ | its a librarty | 02:08 |
| kopple | I don't know exactly, maybe others can | 02:08 |
| kopple | help | 02:09 |
| chopix^ | found it | 02:09 |
| chopix^ | lets see if it instals! | 02:10 |
| kopple | but, maybe you're way more tech-savvy than I am, make sure to not write onto that same filesystem your file was in | 02:10 |
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| chopix^ | ^^ | 02:11 |
| chopix^ | some errors but it installs^^ | 02:12 |
| kopple | good luck | 02:13 |
| chopix^ | doesnt work | 02:14 |
| chopix^ | hmm | 02:14 |
| chopix^ | unable to detect disk | 02:14 |
| chopix^ | i guess stupid epic aegisfs | 02:14 |
| kopple | if only it had been on your SD.. | 02:15 |
| chopix^ | detected | 02:15 |
| kopple | \m/ | 02:16 |
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| kopple | chopix, how is it going? | 02:25 |
| chopix^ | im creating a screen | 02:26 |
| chopix^ | also its not clear which partition i have to scan | 02:26 |
| kopple | I'm just curious, unlikely to be of much help | 02:26 |
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| chopix^ | since its a .db | 02:31 |
| chopix^ | i selected just that in the options | 02:31 |
| chopix^ | its running | 02:31 |
| kopple | again good luck | 02:32 |
| chopix^ | this bshit nokia suite bkp | 02:33 |
| kopple | is it what caused your file's deletion? | 02:33 |
| chopix^ | no | 02:34 |
| chopix^ | but it surely would have helped if it backuped the whole fucking /home/user^^ | 02:34 |
| chopix^ | k so first partition found 0 | 02:34 |
| kopple | agreed :D | 02:35 |
| chopix^ | 2nd partition | 02:36 |
| chopix^ | seems no problem with aegis though | 02:37 |
| chopix^ | since im running it from inside so photorec see things decrypted | 02:37 |
| kopple | I don't know what aegis is | 02:37 |
| chopix^ | bshit inside n9 :D | 02:37 |
| chopix^ | any whorth successor of the n900 around ??!?!? | 02:38 |
| kopple | indeed, none | 02:38 |
| kopple | well, actually neo900 is | 02:38 |
| chopix^ | is it out? | 02:39 |
| kopple | mm.. was is going to be? It's a project as far as I know, you can purchase it on demand | 02:40 |
| kopple | chopix here it's late at night, I should be leaving shortly | 02:40 |
| chopix^ | gn8 kopple and thanks :D | 02:41 |
| Oksana | Is it safe to delete /var/lib/apt/lists/*.* files? Because I get annoying "Encountered a section with no Package: header" error all the time. | 02:41 |
| kopple | welcome ;) | 02:41 |
| chopix^ | ah ma sei ita tra l'altro :D | 02:41 |
| kopple | oh sì | 02:41 |
| kopple | così sono davvero l'ultimo ita con un n900 :( | 02:42 |
| chopix^ | :D | 02:42 |
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| Oksana | Why SDK-tools file is located in maemo5.0 repository?.. /Confused/ http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_sdk-tools_free_armel/strace/4.5.18-1.1+0m5/ | 04:21 |
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| Oksana | Okay-Tokay, enabling Extras-Devel... Beware the dragons! | 04:24 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Oksana: looks like someone has put a later version in extras? | 09:48 |
| sixwheeledbeast | http://maemo.org/packages/view/strace/ | 09:48 |
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| vakkov_ | Hi there! a quick question - were all of these backed up - https://etherpad.mozilla.org/3gxFWfbErG | 13:42 |
| vakkov_ | xes: where are the gitorious repos that you have backed up | 13:53 |
| vakkov_ | ough, preenv is missing | 13:54 |
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| chopix^ | hello | 18:55 |
| chopix^ | guys anyone has this | 18:56 |
| chopix^ | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=47360 | 18:56 |
| chopix^ | ? | 18:56 |
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| bencoh | hmm ? | 19:01 |
| chopix^ | the link is long dead :( | 19:01 |
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| KotCzarny | chopix: grab scratchbox and compile it yourself? | 19:56 |
| chopix^ | whats scratchbox | 19:58 |
| chopix^ | i dont have a n900^^ | 19:58 |
| KotCzarny | ~scratchbox | 19:58 |
| infobot | methinks scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB | 19:58 |
| KotCzarny | ~sdk | 19:58 |
| infobot | from memory, sdk is http://privatepaste.com/e4a5b13fad or "wget http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/explicit/maemo-dev-env-downloads/downloads/Readme_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.txt" | 19:58 |
| KotCzarny | in short, you can compile software on your pc, then copy packages/files to n900 | 19:59 |
| KotCzarny | there was even virtualbox image | 19:59 |
| chopix^ | i should give it a try | 19:59 |
| KotCzarny | you can also try debian-armel binaries (from lenny or older) | 20:00 |
| chopix^ | yeah that was my first try | 20:00 |
| chopix^ | couldnt find package | 20:00 |
| KotCzarny | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/extundelete | 20:01 |
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| chopix^ | doesnt work | 20:01 |
| KotCzarny | what is the error? | 20:02 |
| chopix^ | need older version | 20:02 |
| chopix^ | librariers dont meet version requirement | 20:02 |
| bencoh | hm ? | 20:03 |
| chopix^ | mmmh? | 20:03 |
| bencoh | are you just trying to run it ? on which os ? | 20:03 |
| chopix^ | i have a n9 | 20:03 |
| chopix^ | so i guess harmattan | 20:03 |
| bencoh | oh, okay | 20:03 |
| bencoh | I see | 20:03 |
| KotCzarny | ahr | 20:03 |
| KotCzarny | thought n900 | 20:03 |
| KotCzarny | still, n9 is newer than n900 | 20:03 |
| chopix^ | n900 packages usually run on n9 :) | 20:04 |
| chopix^ | extundelete: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.15' not found | 20:06 |
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| KotCzarny | which package exactly are you using? | 20:09 |
| chopix^ | "extundelete_0.2.0-2.1_armel.deb" | 20:09 |
| KotCzarny | uhhum | 20:09 |
| bencoh | if the one from wheezy doesnt work, try squeeze | 20:10 |
| KotCzarny | try asking with the scratchbox to compile it | 20:10 |
| bencoh | or lenny | 20:10 |
| KotCzarny | it's a small package | 20:10 |
| bencoh | or try compiling it, yeah | 20:10 |
| KotCzarny | and i have to run | 20:10 |
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| chopix^ | trying to see if i find something on launchpad | 20:16 |
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