| freemangordon | shit that has GC and such | 00:00 |
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| freemangordon | there are times C++ allows you to make better SW than C | 00:01 |
| freemangordon | not most of the times but still | 00:01 |
| freemangordon | however, if I had looked at adeclock sources by the time he (and not only) to be included in CSSU, I would have done everything I can to prevent it entering CSSU in this form | 00:03 |
| freemangordon | s/to/wanted to | 00:03 |
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| freemangordon | wont' make that mistake again | 00:03 |
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| bencoh | :-) | 00:05 |
| bencoh | the old/current version looks like it defeats every C++/qt purpose | 00:06 |
| bencoh | feels like reading bad gtk code, but in C++ | 00:06 |
| * L29Ah ♥ shit w/ GC | 00:06 | |
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| L29Ah | proper memory management of a complex app is quite funky | 00:07 |
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| freemangordon | L29Ah: yeah, your math implies it :P | 00:07 |
| L29Ah | ;[ | 00:08 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: no, really, I've never seen such a bad code. honestly. | 00:08 |
| freemangordon | even the php code produced by our office assistant looks better most of the times | 00:09 |
| bencoh | eww | 00:09 |
| bencoh | that's almost insulting :D | 00:09 |
| freemangordon | but she is not programmer, after all | 00:09 |
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| freemangordon | sorry if someone feels insulted, but... that is the truth as I see it | 00:10 |
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| bencoh | I dont :) | 00:10 |
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| freemangordon | in every damn file we have a copy of those ~40 lines https://github.com/community-ssu/clock-ui/commit/37cf2aaeefd05e41c8c6211697f43cccf07433d8#diff-1b0d45f41668aa21495babdc75b80923L16 | 00:10 |
| L29Ah | i do! | 00:10 |
| freemangordon | translation stuff | 00:11 |
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| L29Ah | meet you in court | 00:11 |
| Sicelo | heh, at least the coder seems to have mentioned that the code was horibble | 00:11 |
| freemangordon | Sicelo: whare? | 00:11 |
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| freemangordon | *where | 00:11 |
| Sicelo | there's a link sixwheeledbeast gave a few days ago.. | 00:11 |
| bencoh | oO | 00:11 |
| freemangordon | could you share it? | 00:11 |
| freemangordon | which coder? ade? as he is not the one to blame actually | 00:12 |
| sixwheeledbeast | er, I forget now, but IIRC I highlighted you. | 00:12 |
| Sicelo | when was the first day that you the bad code was 'exposed'? then we can look in those logs | 00:12 |
| Sicelo | ah, sixwheeledbeast is here :) | 00:12 |
| L29Ah | what's clock-ui? | 00:12 |
| sixwheeledbeast | :nod: | 00:12 |
| * L29Ah hides | 00:12 | |
| sixwheeledbeast | ade explained he was not happy with the code and wished it to be looked over. | 00:12 |
| freemangordon | hmm, can't remember, some 2 weeks ago | 00:13 |
| bencoh | sixwheeledbeast: here ? | 00:13 |
| Sicelo | less than 2 weeks :) | 00:13 |
| bencoh | oh, 2w ago, dont have that in backlog | 00:13 |
| freemangordon | L29Ah: no need | 00:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~logs | 00:13 |
| infobot | All conversations are logged to http://infobot.rikers.org/%23maemo/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/ | 00:13 |
| L29Ah | ~clock-ui | 00:13 |
| bencoh | right, we have logs | 00:13 |
| sixwheeledbeast | L29Ah: I doubt that will work... | 00:13 |
| freemangordon | anyway, noone takes you seriously :). Though you'll have problems with kerio, as he is our troll on duty for the last...how much? 3 years? | 00:14 |
| L29Ah | ~test | 00:14 |
| infobot | [test] not funny | 00:14 |
| kerio | u fucking wot m8 | 00:14 |
| freemangordon | see :) | 00:14 |
| bencoh | :)) | 00:14 |
| L29Ah | > Lines starting with spaces are not logged. | 00:15 |
| L29Ah | ;[ | 00:15 |
| kerio | penis | 00:15 |
| kerio | i hope there was a space | 00:15 |
| bencoh | L29Ah: it's like with bash history | 00:15 |
| kerio | i definetely inserted a space | 00:15 |
| L29Ah | my " ~test" was logged | 00:15 |
| L29Ah | did it contain a space? | 00:16 |
| bencoh | it did | 00:16 |
| bencoh | not in logs though ... funny | 00:16 |
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| freemangordon | kerio: well, what I saw inserted in IRC is not space, but penis. Never thought you can do that with IRC. | 00:17 |
| kerio | it's new in IRCv3 | 00:18 |
| freemangordon | kerio: you'd better take care of him, a man never knows | 00:18 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | freemangordon: the link on IRC was http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1385196&postcount=452 BTW | 00:20 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I found it again, not via the logs; but internal memory ;) | 00:20 |
| freemangordon | 10x | 00:21 |
| freemangordon | as I said, it is not ade to blame | 00:21 |
| freemangordon | but we lazy CSSU guys | 00:21 |
| bencoh | sounds like he had a rough time | 00:22 |
| freemangordon | BTW, after spending ~2weeks (and expecting to spend ~3 more) on that code, I'll never touch any SW made by cecipepez (or whatever was this guy's nick) with a 10m long pole. sorry if someone feels offended, but... | 00:24 |
| Sicelo | :D | 00:24 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: yeah, the reasong being adeclock inclusion in CSSU took too much time | 00:24 |
| freemangordon | *reason | 00:24 |
| Sicelo | whatsapp users are grateful to cepiperez, generally | 00:25 |
| freemangordon | good for them, and good for me not using that shit (whatsapp) | 00:25 |
| freemangordon | *for not | 00:25 |
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| bencoh | why whatsapp ? is he the original author of yappari ? | 00:31 |
| bencoh | oh right | 00:32 |
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| Sicelo | no, but he helped with certain parts of the code, especially during protocol changes | 00:34 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | hence my switch from filebox to hamsterfiler years ago. | 01:25 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I am no coder but looking at the source and you can see what's going on. props to gidzzz for nice looking code I can understand. | 01:27 |
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| freemangordon | wait, what? doc's karma is higher than mine?!? | 01:28 |
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| freemangordon | hmm... I'll look into that :D | 01:29 |
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| freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: you don;t need to be a coder to get that copying the same code all over the place doesn't make much sense | 01:31 |
| freemangordon | but anyway, I took over it, so you may expect some improvement :). so far the binary is rediced to ~480k from 620k. and there is still lots of work to be done | 01:33 |
| freemangordon | I expect the final app to be ~250k and startup time to be reduced <.5 seconds, when using smoke and mirrors | 01:33 |
| freemangordon | and ~1.5s if not | 01:34 |
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| freemangordon | (smoke and mirrors) the stock app gets preloaded like modest, phone app, etc | 01:35 |
| freemangordon | I am still undecided if we should have it like that | 01:35 |
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| bencoh | nice, lean, fast | 02:25 |
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| bencoh | KotCzarny: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95479 :] | 02:39 |
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| KotCzarny | bencoh, wth O.o | 08:18 |
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| KotCzarny | if im not mistaken special keys are: shift-space=tab, blue-ctrl=esc, blue-up=~, blue-left=<, blue-right=>, blue-down= | 09:45 |
| KotCzarny | | | 09:45 |
| kerio | KotCzarny: the usual course of action is forward-banning to ##fix_your_connection, btw | 09:45 |
| KotCzarny | kerio: wut? | 09:45 |
| kerio | extended bans let you redirect a join onto another channel | 09:46 |
| KotCzarny | i dont speak freenodish | 09:46 |
| kerio | it's pretty neat | 09:46 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, but right now im trying to fix 5dots syndrome | 09:47 |
| kerio | reflash | 09:49 |
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| KotCzarny | nope, will try to fix first | 09:49 |
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| KotCzarny | can upstart scripts be serialized? | 10:58 |
| L29Ah | wat | 10:59 |
| KotCzarny | debugging parallel funker is pita | 10:59 |
| L29Ah | ah | 10:59 |
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| KotCzarny | anyone tried automatically starting wlan in init scripts? | 11:18 |
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| KotCzarny | something turns it off for me | 11:19 |
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| bencoh | dunno | 11:25 |
| bencoh | but I'd rather try to get usbnet | 11:25 |
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| KotCzarny | is it quicka and easy to setup? | 11:26 |
| bencoh | dunno, https://wiki.maemo.org/USB_networking didnt work for me | 11:27 |
| bencoh | but maybe I did it wrong | 11:28 |
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| KotCzarny | loaded usbnet, no usb0 interface | 11:31 |
| zGrr | moin :) | 11:31 |
| bencoh | ifconfig -a ? | 11:31 |
| KotCzarny | yeah | 11:31 |
| KotCzarny | no usb0 | 11:31 |
| bencoh | you need to plug it in ;) | 11:31 |
| KotCzarny | ahhum | 11:32 |
| bencoh | hmm see https://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_networking | 11:32 |
| KotCzarny | nice, but assumes working system | 11:32 |
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| kerio | usbnet? wut | 11:34 |
| kerio | you mean g_ether | 11:34 |
| KotCzarny | page said to load usbnet | 11:35 |
| kerio | on your computer? | 11:35 |
| KotCzarny | modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'g_ether': No such device | 11:35 |
| kerio | your computer should autoconfigure | 11:36 |
| KotCzarny | k, modprobe g_ether on n900 worked | 11:38 |
| kerio | either g_ether or g_nokia works | 11:38 |
| KotCzarny | lets see if i can coerce maemo to start it on boot | 11:38 |
| bencoh | I dont even have g_ether loaded on n900 | 11:39 |
| bencoh | all I can see is g_nokia | 11:39 |
| KotCzarny | on a related note, cant charge and use usbnet at the same time | 11:39 |
| bencoh | I dont have usbnet either | 11:40 |
| KotCzarny | usbnet is for pc | 11:40 |
| KotCzarny | and cdc_ether | 11:40 |
| KotCzarny | hrm | 11:42 |
| KotCzarny | funnily chargin n900 makes charger go from 0.6 to 0.75A | 11:43 |
| * KotCzarny bought 'charging doctor' recently | 11:43 | |
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| zGrr | My n900 headphones jack is gradually starting to fail. Is there a way to fix it? | 11:55 |
| L29Ah | buy a new one | 11:55 |
| KotCzarny | zgrr other than resoldering, nope | 11:56 |
| L29Ah | it's not soldered | 11:56 |
| KotCzarny | no? | 11:56 |
| L29Ah | nokia uses awesome springs for jacks | 11:56 |
| KotCzarny | nice | 11:56 |
| KotCzarny | at least that is good | 11:56 |
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| KotCzarny | anyway, no /dev/mmcblk* in rescueos, is it bad? | 11:56 |
| L29Ah | try modprobe omap_hsmmc | 11:57 |
| KotCzarny | modprobe: module 'omap_hsmmc' not found | 11:57 |
| L29Ah | ~rescueos | 11:58 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, rescueos is http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/ | 11:58 |
| L29Ah | go mount root | 11:58 |
| L29Ah | and insmod it | 11:58 |
| KotCzarny | insmod: can't insert './omap_hsmmc.ko': invalid module format | 11:58 |
| KotCzarny | wrong kernel version | 11:58 |
| L29Ah | ye | 11:58 |
| KotCzarny | -f is not working | 11:58 |
| L29Ah | did you switch kernels? | 11:58 |
| KotCzarny | nope, apparently rescueos uses 2.6.37 | 11:59 |
| KotCzarny | for some reason | 11:59 |
| L29Ah | :D | 11:59 |
| L29Ah | the doc say rescueos is an initrd image | 11:59 |
| L29Ah | wtf | 11:59 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, kernel+initrd is needed | 11:59 |
| KotCzarny | and initrd uses 2.6.37 modules | 11:59 |
| L29Ah | try rescueos'izing your / and booting the regular kernel then >.> | 12:00 |
| KotCzarny | yeah, i may try adding maemo module tree and booting powerkernel | 12:00 |
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| KotCzarny | right now im charging it tho | 12:01 |
| L29Ah | or just reflash it | 12:01 |
| KotCzarny | i need a way to debug it live | 12:01 |
| KotCzarny | because im planning on some hacking too | 12:01 |
| L29Ah | get gentoo ;) | 12:01 |
| KotCzarny | so will have to do it anyway | 12:01 |
| L29Ah | openrc has sequential booting mode :3 | 12:02 |
| KotCzarny | sysv init too | 12:02 |
| L29Ah | upstart is smarter than you | 12:02 |
| KotCzarny | you suck, remember? :P | 12:02 |
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| KotCzarny | also, i hate when people compile kernel without /proc/config.gz | 12:07 |
| KotCzarny | it's just stupid | 12:07 |
| KotCzarny | oh, hey, i save 20kB! | 12:07 |
| KotCzarny | woo-hoo, im so hip! | 12:08 |
| bencoh | +1 | 12:09 |
| bencoh | but they just forget it most of the time | 12:09 |
| KotCzarny | hmm, maybe those modules are in v1.0 | 12:11 |
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| zGrr | KotCzarny: is it surface-mounted or traditionally soldered into holes? | 12:15 |
| KotCzarny | if l29ah is right its just socketed | 12:16 |
| KotCzarny | so you will only need to find the right part and change | 12:16 |
| KotCzarny | http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/sourcecode/kernel_config | 12:18 |
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| KotCzarny | good for him. | 12:19 |
| KotCzarny | heh, it uses kernel from meego | 12:21 |
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| KotCzarny | hmm | 12:35 |
| KotCzarny | but apparently CONFIG_MMC_OMAP_HS is built in | 12:35 |
| KotCzarny | no device nodes were created tho | 12:35 |
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| L29Ah | paste mount and dmesg | 12:39 |
| KotCzarny | mount of what? | 12:39 |
| L29Ah | just `mount` | 12:39 |
| KotCzarny | ls /dev/mmcblk* is empty | 12:39 |
| L29Ah | CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y | 12:39 |
| L29Ah | mount nvm | 12:40 |
| L29Ah | ls /sys/block | 12:40 |
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| KotCzarny | nope | 12:40 |
| KotCzarny | no mmcblk | 12:40 |
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| KotCzarny | rebuilding kernel | 12:43 |
| KotCzarny | also, this battery charges wildly | 12:44 |
| KotCzarny | Status: 0x10 Mode: CHARGING Full: 0 Wall: 0 Voltage: 4152 NAC: 341 level: 17 % Rate: 74 System: -292 Ch: 366 | 12:44 |
| KotCzarny | Status: 0x10 Mode: CHARGING Full: 0 Wall: 0 Voltage: 4160 NAC: 2056 level: 100 % Rate: 104 System: -201 Ch: 305 | 12:44 |
| KotCzarny | jumped from 17% to 100% in one tick | 12:45 |
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| KotCzarny | newbie question, i can compile n900 kernel on my pc? no need for sb? | 12:48 |
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| chainsawbike | KotCzarny, you will need a cross-compiling toolchain of some sort | 12:59 |
| KotCzarny | ahm, then sb | 13:00 |
| KotCzarny | anyway, kernel didnt boot | 13:00 |
| KotCzarny | o.O | 13:00 |
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| KotCzarny | [ 278.674133] Error: Driver 'mmci-omap-hs' is already registered, aborting... | 13:22 |
| KotCzarny | hrm | 13:22 |
| KotCzarny | if its already loaded, why i have no /dev/mmcblk? | 13:22 |
| bencoh | because you need mmcblk for that | 13:24 |
| bencoh | mmci-omap-hs is the host controller driver | 13:24 |
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| bencoh | but ... CONFIG_MMC_BLOCK=y | 13:26 |
| KotCzarny | [ 559.135406] mmc_block: Unknown symbol kmalloc_caches (err 0) | 13:26 |
| KotCzarny | hrm | 13:27 |
| bencoh | should be enough for mmcblk | 13:27 |
| bencoh | and I dont see why you need to rebuild the kernel | 13:27 |
| KotCzarny | i wonder where do i turn off that kmalloc_caches symbol | 13:27 |
| bencoh | it should work out of the box for mmc | 13:27 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh, because rescueos is not showing /dev/mmcblk* | 13:27 |
| bencoh | that's .... od | 13:27 |
| bencoh | odd | 13:27 |
| KotCzarny | so i tried to compile my own kernel using that guy's source and config | 13:28 |
| bencoh | mounting maemo / | 13:29 |
| bencoh | EMMC access(can mount maemo home and MyDocs partition) | 13:29 |
| KotCzarny | i tried running script from /rescueOS/ dir, but it just said there are no /dev/mmcblk* devices | 13:29 |
| KotCzarny | mtdblk is present and mounted fine, but no mmcblk | 13:30 |
| KotCzarny | i hope the reason isn't me losing internal mmc | 13:31 |
| KotCzarny | o.o | 13:31 |
| bencoh | I doubt it | 13:31 |
| KotCzarny | but apparently 5dots can be caused by inability to mount /home | 13:31 |
| bencoh | 2.6.37 kernel + rescueOS-1.1.img ? | 13:31 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 13:32 |
| KotCzarny | http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/ | 13:32 |
| bencoh | sure about that ? | 13:32 |
| KotCzarny | both from here | 13:32 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 13:32 |
| L29Ah | installed thermal cutoff relays to my chandelier | 13:32 |
| L29Ah | ._. | 13:32 |
| Sicelo | do you have other /dev/ nodes? | 13:34 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 13:34 |
| KotCzarny | as i said, mtdblk is there as are other nodes | 13:34 |
| KotCzarny | and nothing in dmesg about mmc | 13:34 |
| Sicelo | ok. i was just remembering that one time i lost all /dev nodes | 13:34 |
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| KotCzarny | pity i didnt setup mmcboot earlier | 13:41 |
| KotCzarny | maybe it would still work on external mmc | 13:41 |
| KotCzarny | though it looks like controller not showing up at all | 13:41 |
| KotCzarny | how can i check if mmc controller is working? | 13:43 |
| bencoh | hmm | 13:44 |
| KotCzarny | there are some nodes in /sys | 13:45 |
| bencoh | what do they say ? | 13:45 |
| KotCzarny | want me to paste them all? | 13:46 |
| KotCzarny | in /sys/devices/platform/mmci-omap-hs.0/mmc_host i only have mmc0 | 13:48 |
| KotCzarny | which is named 'external' | 13:48 |
| KotCzarny | shall it have mmc1 for internal too? | 13:48 |
| L29Ah | i have only mmc0 as well | 13:50 |
| L29Ah | do you have mmci-omap-hs.1? | 13:50 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 13:50 |
| bencoh | funny, mmc0 is external here, and mmc1 is internal | 13:50 |
| Sicelo | :) | 13:51 |
| KotCzarny | ok, .1 is internal | 13:51 |
| Sicelo | the 'switch' happens somewhere in Maemo .. somehow the kernels always have it the wrong way round :) | 13:51 |
| L29Ah | KotCzarny: and do you have /sys/devices/platform/mmci-omap-hs.1/mmc_host\:mmc1/mmc1\:0001/block*? | 13:51 |
| Sicelo | known problem | 13:51 |
| bencoh | Sicelo: :) | 13:52 |
| KotCzarny | l29ah: nope | 13:52 |
| KotCzarny | and going into power dir both microamps_requested_vmmc show 0 | 13:52 |
| KotCzarny | drat, it looks like i really lost internal mmc o.o | 13:53 |
| KotCzarny | i knew i shouldnt upgrade that powerkernel from .52 to .53 | 13:54 |
| Sicelo | lol. | 13:54 |
| Sicelo | definitely not the cause of your problem | 13:54 |
| bencoh | doubt it as well, but ... | 13:54 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: do you have uboot at least ? :) | 13:54 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh, system boots to 5dots | 13:54 |
| KotCzarny | so its not the kernel/firmware problem | 13:55 |
| bencoh | it's real question, not saying it's a kernel or uboot problem | 13:55 |
| KotCzarny | dont know, most likely stock loader | 13:55 |
| bencoh | meh, ok | 13:55 |
| KotCzarny | hrm | 13:58 |
| KotCzarny | magic | 13:58 |
| KotCzarny | inserting microsd triggered internal mmc to show up too | 13:58 |
| KotCzarny | woo-hoo! | 13:58 |
| Sicelo | haha, which mmc was showing before? :p | 13:59 |
| KotCzarny | none | 14:00 |
| KotCzarny | that's the magic | 14:00 |
| Sicelo | didn't you have an mmc0? | 14:00 |
| KotCzarny | none | 14:00 |
| KotCzarny | told you | 14:00 |
| KotCzarny | now i have both in /dev | 14:01 |
| KotCzarny | and in dmesg | 14:01 |
| KotCzarny | lets see if it boots now | 14:01 |
| L29Ah | :D | 14:02 |
| KotCzarny | nope. | 14:05 |
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| KotCzarny | hrm | 14:08 |
| KotCzarny | now i have no /dev/mmcblk* again | 14:08 |
| KotCzarny | even with card inserted | 14:09 |
| L29Ah | try mounting root and running udev | 14:10 |
| KotCzarny | its not that | 14:10 |
| KotCzarny | kernel has automount /dev | 14:10 |
| L29Ah | no it hasn't | 14:10 |
| KotCzarny | and it should show automagically | 14:10 |
| KotCzarny | rescueos has | 14:10 |
| L29Ah | the devtmpfs is static after init starts afaik | 14:10 |
| KotCzarny | and it worked because that one previous boot it showed, right? | 14:11 |
| L29Ah | er, did it add itself after the boot? | 14:11 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 14:11 |
| L29Ah | k | 14:11 |
| KotCzarny | but now it apparently is not showing again | 14:12 |
| KotCzarny | either controler is bad or internal flash | 14:12 |
| KotCzarny | or power kernel .53 is the cause that makes controller go bad | 14:12 |
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| KotCzarny | hrm | 14:29 |
| KotCzarny | it might be physical problem | 14:30 |
| KotCzarny | turned it off, pushed few times under battery and near mmc card | 14:30 |
| KotCzarny | and it showed | 14:30 |
| KotCzarny | and it survived the reboot to rescueos twice | 14:33 |
| KotCzarny | lets see about powerkernel | 14:33 |
| KotCzarny | the heck. | 14:35 |
| KotCzarny | missing again after booting powerkernel .53 | 14:37 |
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| KotCzarny | mount: mounting /dev/mmcblk0p3 on /mnt failed: Input/output error | 15:07 |
| KotCzarny | same for p1 | 15:07 |
| KotCzarny | and p2 mounts fine | 15:07 |
| KotCzarny | the heck? | 15:07 |
| bencoh | dont panic | 15:08 |
| KotCzarny | ahm | 15:08 |
| KotCzarny | p3 is swap | 15:08 |
| bencoh | yeah | 15:08 |
| KotCzarny | and p1 is vfat | 15:08 |
| bencoh | p1 is fat | 15:08 |
| KotCzarny | k, mounted after modprobe vfat | 15:09 |
| KotCzarny | and data is there | 15:10 |
| KotCzarny | now, why the heck it goes missing after trying to boot maemo | 15:10 |
| KotCzarny | mind you, im not touching n900 over reboot | 15:10 |
| KotCzarny | doing it via telnetted reboot command | 15:11 |
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| KotCzarny | hmm, what's the difference between kernel power and kernel power bootimg ? | 17:00 |
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| drathir | not sure if good remember, but second i guess workin with pali loader... | 17:15 |
| L29Ah | > bootimg provides the ultimate boot loader - the Linux kernel itself | 17:15 |
| L29Ah | lol | 17:15 |
| kerio | bootimg is an image with the uboot config file | 17:18 |
| kerio | to be launched by uboot | 17:18 |
| KotCzarny | so for flasher -l i need the first? | 17:20 |
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| kerio | for what now | 17:24 |
| kerio | you want kernel-power-flasher, on the device | 17:25 |
| KotCzarny | you know that my maemo is not booting? | 17:25 |
| kerio | if you need to flash from a pc, you need kernel-power.deb, which has a .fiasco image | 17:25 |
| kerio | usable directly by flasher | 17:25 |
| bencoh | hmm do you need a fiasco image for kernel ? | 17:26 |
| KotCzarny | i want to boot to check if its the reason | 17:26 |
| bencoh | (I dont think so) | 17:26 |
| KotCzarny | hmm | 17:26 |
| kerio | you can also flash the file in bootimg but you have to specify that it's a kernel | 17:26 |
| KotCzarny | so which kernel should be bootable via -l ? | 17:26 |
| kerio | the bootimg, i think | 17:26 |
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| KotCzarny | hrm | 17:28 |
| KotCzarny | no banana | 17:28 |
| KotCzarny | maybe i need another cmdline | 17:29 |
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| bencoh | ? | 17:30 |
| KotCzarny | unless you dont need any special magic for booting | 17:31 |
| KotCzarny | but at least init=/sbin/preinit is needed, right? | 17:31 |
| KotCzarny | and root= | 17:31 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh, can you paste me your /proc/cmdline ? | 17:31 |
| KotCzarny | google also says its: init=/sbin/preinit ubi.mtd=rootfs root=ubi0:rootfs rootfstype=ubifs rootflags=bulk_read,no_chk_data_crc rw console=ttyMTD,log console=tty0 snd-soc-rx51.hp_lim=42 snd-soc-tlv320aic3x.hp_dac_lim=6 | 17:37 |
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| bencoh | init=/sbin/preinit ubi.mtd=rootfs root=ubi0:rootfs rootfstype=ubifs rootflags=bulk_read,no_chk_data_crc rw console=ttyMTD,log console=tty0 snd-soc-rx51.hp_lim=42 snd-soc-tlv320aic3x.hp_dac_lim=6 | 17:38 |
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| KotCzarny | same apparently | 17:38 |
| KotCzarny | it doesnt work for booting with -l -b | 17:39 |
| bencoh | "doesnt work" ? | 17:39 |
| KotCzarny | maybe there is another intermediate bootcmdline | 17:39 |
| KotCzarny | that loads next kernel | 17:39 |
| bencoh | ?! | 17:39 |
| KotCzarny | because it should load maemo, right? | 17:39 |
| bencoh | there is no "next kernel" | 17:40 |
| KotCzarny | and it doesnt even boot | 17:40 |
| bencoh | it's not kexec | 17:40 |
| KotCzarny | just hangs on nokia screen | 17:40 |
| bencoh | did you specify kernel (-k iirc) ? | 17:40 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 17:40 |
| KotCzarny | ok, usb networking hack inserted and working | 17:49 |
| KotCzarny | how can i check which stage of the boot it is at? | 17:49 |
| KotCzarny | 874 root 12816 S /usr/bin/hildon-startup-progress | 17:49 |
| KotCzarny | 886 root 3472 S /usr/sbin/sysinfod --system | 17:49 |
| KotCzarny | 919 user 10184 S python /opt/battery-eye/beyed.py | 17:49 |
| KotCzarny | three last processes | 17:49 |
| KotCzarny | also, /home is mounted | 17:50 |
| KotCzarny | and /opt | 17:50 |
| KotCzarny | also, hildon-startup-progress is responsible for 5dots | 17:52 |
| KotCzarny | in case anyone wants to get rid of it | 17:52 |
| L29Ah | :* | 17:52 |
| L29Ah | will i get reboot loop if i mv it? (: | 17:52 |
| KotCzarny | dont know | 17:52 |
| KotCzarny | rescueos can fix it | 17:52 |
| KotCzarny | if its a simple mv | 17:52 |
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| KotCzarny | so, anyone has a hint how to debug why it stopped boot progress? | 17:53 |
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| KotCzarny | [root@Nokia-N900:/var/log]# hildon-desktop.launch | 17:54 |
| KotCzarny | Segmentation fault | 17:54 |
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| bencoh | you cant run a .launch app like this | 17:55 |
| bencoh | you need to pass it to maemo-invoker | 17:55 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh, got any idea how can i debug boot progress? | 17:55 |
| bencoh | that's what the hildon-desktop symlink is about | 17:55 |
| L29Ah | apt-get install gdb :] | 17:55 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: do you have usbnet ? | 17:56 |
| L29Ah | also you can hit `initctl list` and try launching these | 17:56 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh, yes, im on the device via telnetd | 17:56 |
| bencoh | woah, telnet :] | 17:56 |
| KotCzarny | l29ah: :* | 17:56 |
| bencoh | initctl list sounds like a good idea | 17:57 |
| bencoh | you can see the bootprocess thread | 17:57 |
| bencoh | ~boot-process | 17:57 |
| infobot | boot-process is probably http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87959 | 17:57 |
| KotCzarny | part of fun is it being run in parallel | 18:00 |
| KotCzarny | clock-daemon (start) running, process 832 | 18:01 |
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| KotCzarny | hildon-control-panel-personalisation (stop) waiting | 18:01 |
| KotCzarny | so its somewhere between those two | 18:01 |
| KotCzarny | now, how can i see where and why it's not progressing | 18:02 |
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| bencoh | start syslog during boot process to see logs ? | 18:09 |
| KotCzarny | apparently no sys*logd installed | 18:15 |
| bencoh | it comes with busybox-power | 18:16 |
| KotCzarny | Please confirm the text on the screen of your device | 18:19 |
| KotCzarny | wtf | 18:19 |
| bencoh | oh, right | 18:19 |
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| KotCzarny | so that was it about installing it | 18:20 |
| KotCzarny | can i override it somehow? | 18:20 |
| bencoh | I think there is a way to have it prompted from console | 18:21 |
| KotCzarny | lets try sysklogd | 18:21 |
| KotCzarny | nothing special | 18:23 |
| KotCzarny | maybe i shall reboot | 18:23 |
| Wizzup | Are you trying out mainline kernels? | 18:24 |
| KotCzarny | Linux Nokia-N900 2.6.28.10-power53 #1 PREEMPT Wed Dec 10 13:52:39 UTC 2014 armv7l unknown | 18:24 |
| Wizzup | ah, ok | 18:25 |
| KotCzarny | Jan 1 01:08:24 Nokia-N900 init: xsession main process (882) terminated with status 2 | 18:25 |
| KotCzarny | and: Jan 1 01:08:25 Nokia-N900 mce[790]: Error sending with reply to com.nokia.system_ui.request.tklock_close: The name com.nokia.system_ui was not provided by any .service files | 18:25 |
| KotCzarny | xorg is started tho | 18:25 |
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| KotCzarny | earlier: Jan 1 01:08:23 Nokia-N900 waitx[854]: got display | 18:27 |
| KotCzarny | so xsession dies for some reason | 18:28 |
| L29Ah | just reflash it already :] | 18:31 |
| KotCzarny | no way. | 18:31 |
| Sicelo | :) | 18:31 |
| * Sicelo knows that feeling very well | 18:31 | |
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| KotCzarny | hrm | 18:49 |
| KotCzarny | somehow, i have /tmp/ACT_DEAD | 18:50 |
| KotCzarny | even that was normal boot | 18:50 |
| KotCzarny | but what set it | 18:51 |
| KotCzarny | let's see if they get recreated | 18:51 |
| KotCzarny | they do | 18:52 |
| KotCzarny | the heck? | 18:52 |
| L29Ah | try rm /tmp/ACT_DEAD; mkdir /tmp/ACT_DEAD | 18:53 |
| L29Ah | ;) | 18:53 |
| KotCzarny | did, got recreated | 18:53 |
| KotCzarny | ahm, nah, scripts check for [ -e | 18:53 |
| KotCzarny | so it would be bad anyway | 18:53 |
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| KotCzarny | what funker creates that file, huh | 18:59 |
| KotCzarny | nothing obviously in /etc | 18:59 |
| KotCzarny | getbootstate reads it | 19:00 |
| KotCzarny | ok, booted by pressing button and not reboot | 19:02 |
| KotCzarny | it got to signon | 19:07 |
| KotCzarny | but xsession is still waiting | 19:07 |
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| KotCzarny | stat64("/tmp/hildon-desktop/desktop-started.stamp", 0xbe81f530) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) | 19:13 |
| KotCzarny | signond waits for hildon to launch | 19:13 |
| KotCzarny | which isnt doing it | 19:13 |
| KotCzarny | hildon-desktop (stop) pre-start, process 948 | 19:13 |
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| KotCzarny | stupid hildon.. | 19:23 |
| KotCzarny | why it's not starting | 19:24 |
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| KotCzarny | su - user /etc/X11/Xsession | 19:33 |
| KotCzarny | mesg: /dev/pts/1: Operation not permitted | 19:33 |
| KotCzarny | /etc/X11/Xsession: .: line 13: can't open /usr/share/mc/bin/mc.sh | 19:33 |
| KotCzarny | wtf it tries to run | 19:33 |
| KotCzarny | WTF | 19:35 |
| KotCzarny | you would never guess what caused startup scripts to fail.. | 19:35 |
| KotCzarny | that's just.. WTF | 19:36 |
| KotCzarny | WTF^WTF | 19:36 |
| L29Ah | maemo is very power conscious | 19:36 |
| KotCzarny | but. | 19:36 |
| KotCzarny | seriously. | 19:36 |
| L29Ah | when it detects low battery, it wakes up screen and pukes out some sounds once a while so the battery will get depleted several times faster | 19:37 |
| KotCzarny | i have upgraded mc as part of other updates | 19:37 |
| KotCzarny | and it changed some mc scripts location | 19:37 |
| KotCzarny | but i have it sourced in ~/.profile | 19:37 |
| KotCzarny | and THE WHOLE SYSTEM STOPPED BOOTING BECAUSE OF ONE BAD . LINE IN .profile | 19:38 |
| KotCzarny | wtf | 19:38 |
| L29Ah | lol | 19:38 |
| KotCzarny | that's just wtf.. | 19:38 |
| L29Ah | i didn't know busybox can do errexit | 19:38 |
| L29Ah | try disabling it | 19:38 |
| KotCzarny | nah, i just commented out that line in .profile | 19:39 |
| KotCzarny | yup. booted | 19:41 |
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| KotCzarny | if you ever wanted to 5dotsyndrome someone's n900, just add ". /some/junk/that/doesnt/exist" to /home/user/.profile | 19:42 |
| KotCzarny | bam! non booting anymore. | 19:43 |
| L29Ah | lifehack | 19:43 |
| KotCzarny | at least i was able to debug/fix it | 19:45 |
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| KotCzarny | on another note, my cpu is now stuck on 500mhz | 19:47 |
| KotCzarny | anyone got a hint? | 19:47 |
| L29Ah | take a look you know where | 19:50 |
| KotCzarny | cpufreq says it didnt hit any other state | 19:50 |
| L29Ah | /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ | 19:50 |
| KotCzarny | and everything else seem to be normal | 19:50 |
| KotCzarny | yes | 19:50 |
| L29Ah | scaling_governor? | 19:50 |
| KotCzarny | ondemand | 19:50 |
| L29Ah | max/min? | 19:50 |
| L29Ah | available freqs? | 19:50 |
| KotCzarny | 500/125 | 19:51 |
| KotCzarny | 1150000 1100000 1000000 950000 900000 850000 805000 720000 600000 550000 500000 250000 125000 | 19:51 |
| L29Ah | avoid_frequencies? | 19:51 |
| KotCzarny | only 125 | 19:51 |
| L29Ah | also no evil stuff in top? | 19:51 |
| KotCzarny | nope | 19:51 |
| KotCzarny | CPU: 0.1% usr 0.9% sys 0.0% nice 98.8% idle 0.0% io 0.0% irq 0.0% softirq | 19:52 |
| L29Ah | ondemand sampling rate? | 19:52 |
| KotCzarny | 300000 | 19:52 |
| KotCzarny | only 2 changes i made since last working state is kp.53 and setting 500 instead of 600 in /etc/pmconfig | 19:53 |
| KotCzarny | oh, it moved to 250 | 19:53 |
| KotCzarny | ok, all good then | 19:54 |
| KotCzarny | phew, that was scary experience | 19:54 |
| KotCzarny | but now i have customized rescueos and a way to debug n900 via usbnet | 19:55 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 19:55 |
| KotCzarny | and most important, i have my n900 working again! | 19:56 |
| KotCzarny | and gcc4.7 target in scratchbox | 19:57 |
| KotCzarny | not bad for 2 days | 19:57 |
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| KotCzarny | http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun06/articles/loudandlight.htm | 20:13 |
| KotCzarny | nice article about class-d amplifiers | 20:13 |
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| KotCzarny | should i create 'how to revive my device' in general or can i create some personal page on tmo? | 20:47 |
| KotCzarny | i mean on wiki.maemo.org | 20:47 |
| KotCzarny | also, is maemo account related in any way to wiki account? | 20:48 |
| L29Ah | how to get a wiki account? | 20:49 |
| * L29Ah is sick of maths :} | 20:49 | |
| KotCzarny | create a script that will do maths for you, dummy | 20:49 |
| * L29Ah is sick of js | 20:50 | |
| KotCzarny | bash script | 20:51 |
| KotCzarny | or perl, or python | 20:51 |
| L29Ah | then i'll have to copypaste that shit | 20:51 |
| L29Ah | i'll solve it myself faster | 20:51 |
| L29Ah | ! | 20:51 |
| KotCzarny | make a list | 20:51 |
| L29Ah | also, will the tmo captcha get disabled after i flood a bit? | 20:51 |
| KotCzarny | dont flood it | 20:52 |
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| KotCzarny | l29ah, maemo.org account works with wifi | 20:53 |
| KotCzarny | wiki | 20:53 |
| L29Ah | it didn't let me | 20:57 |
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| KotCzarny | go to maemo.org and login | 20:57 |
| L29Ah | wow it's a garage login, not talk login | 20:58 |
| L29Ah | Username or password was invalid. | 20:58 |
| L29Ah | nop | 20:58 |
| KotCzarny | worked for me, maybe i have same credentials on both | 20:59 |
| KotCzarny | or accounts were joined at one time | 20:59 |
| L29Ah | okay i suck | 21:00 |
| L29Ah | i tried my mixed-case login instead of lowercase | 21:00 |
| KotCzarny | that's the second time this week | 21:00 |
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| L29Ah | to change the screen lock code i need to know the current one :D | 22:25 |
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| Sicelo | but your N900 is not currently locked? you can brute force it :) | 22:37 |
| L29Ah | it's just a fun fact that there's a useless "security feature" | 22:38 |
| L29Ah | i guess i can read it in some config file in plain text | 22:38 |
| nox- | ~lockcode | 22:39 |
| infobot | somebody said lockcode was http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=524522#post524522 | 22:39 |
| L29Ah | :D | 22:39 |
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| Vajb_ | nice. Powertop segfaulted :D | 22:54 |
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| Sicelo | power was too much for it to handle :P | 23:06 |
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| Vajb_ | yeah, twice | 23:31 |
| Vajb_ | segfaults at #irq listing | 23:31 |
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| Sicelo | anyway, there's also zzztop, or similar | 23:44 |
| Sicelo | ~zzztop | 23:44 |
| infobot | methinks zzztop is - the better and even FOSS powertop - http://wiki.maemo.org/Zzztop | 23:44 |
| Vajb_ | cool feature is that it used to work like two months ago and i can't recall anything i changed | 23:57 |
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