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| freemangordon | Sicelo: hmm, ging to try | 12:15 |
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| freemangordon | Sicelo: hmm, yeah, I guess the auth token has expired. But nevertheless sharig plugin should deal with that situation | 12:22 |
| freemangordon | *sharing | 12:22 |
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| Sicelo | you mean by re-validating? or you mean something needs improving with the plugin? | 12:38 |
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| freemangordon | Sicelo: yeah | 12:46 |
| freemangordon | this "{"error":{"message":"(#200) Requires extended permission: publish_actions","type":"OAuthException","code":200}}" is the error | 12:47 |
| freemangordon | seems they have changes something | 12:47 |
| freemangordon | now the errors are just ignored, I am fixing this | 12:48 |
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| freemangordon | Sicelo: hmm, seems something is broken on FB side | 13:15 |
| freemangordon | even after requesting auth again, I still can't share | 13:15 |
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| freemangordon | OMG, seems that someone removed all of the "Nokia N900" application permissions | 13:19 |
| freemangordon | WTF? | 13:19 |
| princefakhan | what? | 13:19 |
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| freemangordon | princefakhan: someone (Nokia? FB?) has removed all the permissions of Nokia FB application. | 13:21 |
| princefakhan | what. is it just fb. | 13:23 |
| jonwil | Sounds like Facebook has blocked the Facebook API key used by Maemo | 13:23 |
| princefakhan | I think so too. | 13:23 |
| jonwil | Not that I care, | 13:23 |
| jonwil | I dont use Facebook :P | 13:23 |
| jonwil | The answer might be to simply clone the Facebook bits and find another API key... | 13:23 |
| jonwil | unless there was something special about what the N900 FB app did | 13:24 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: no, I reimplemented the sharing plugin by useing the new FB API (graph API) and it was working for a while | 13:25 |
| freemangordon | jonwil: and it is not blocked, as I am able to get the auth token | 13:25 |
| freemangordon | but application has permissins to do nothing :) | 13:26 |
| jonwil | Well turning off all the permissions is in practical terms the same thing as blocked :) | 13:26 |
| freemangordon | no, it is not the saem | 13:26 |
| freemangordon | *same | 13:26 |
| freemangordon | I can get user information for example | 13:26 |
| freemangordon | but cannot publish on her behalf | 13:26 |
| freemangordon | I == application | 13:27 |
| freemangordon | I sent a message to Nokia FB lady, lets see what she will respond | 13:28 |
| freemangordon | hmm, someone make that application fubar. there are no administrators ?!? | 13:32 |
| princefakhan | this is happening with the fb widget, isn't it? | 13:33 |
| freemangordon | it is the same application, yes | 13:34 |
| princefakhan | hmmm. | 13:34 |
| princefakhan | there seems to be no problem with the IM service. | 13:34 |
| freemangordon | it is a different thing | 13:37 |
| princefakhan | :) | 13:38 |
| princefakhan | so it does not need any permission. how? | 13:39 |
| freemangordon | because it is using a different protocol | 13:49 |
| scottc | a different protocol that was due to be disabled 2 days ago (!) | 13:50 |
| princefakhan | hmmm. | 13:50 |
| freemangordon | scottc: wasn't it supposed to be disabled on 15th of April? | 13:51 |
| scottc | I thought it was the 30th but I could be mistaken | 13:51 |
| freemangordon | xmpp afaik | 13:51 |
| scottc | https://developers.facebook.com/docs/chat | 13:51 |
| freemangordon | oh, 30th | 13:51 |
| scottc | "After April 30th, 2015 apps will no longer be able to access the service or API. This includes both access to chat.facebook.com and the xmpp_login permission." | 13:52 |
| freemangordon | scottc: maybe it takes time | 13:52 |
| scottc | for some reason I thought it was the 10th of May for a while too, no idea why | 13:52 |
| scottc | perhaps, yeah | 13:52 |
| freemangordon | *BUT* https://developers.facebook.com/docs/apps/api-v1-deprecation | 13:52 |
| freemangordon | I guess this is our problem with sharing application | 13:52 |
| scottc | huh | 13:53 |
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| princefakhan | there was some protocol which was to be deprecated years ago but was done this year. I guess it was FB's. | 13:54 |
| freemangordon | scottc: "Require Login Review for all apps that use Facebook Login and ask people for permissions..." | 13:55 |
| freemangordon | that's our problem | 13:55 |
| KotCzarny | hehe | 13:55 |
| scottc | aha | 13:56 |
| princefakhan | oh. but I think the app opens the browser to login. | 13:56 |
| freemangordon | yes, so what? | 13:56 |
| princefakhan | does it not? | 13:56 |
| freemangordon | extended permissions need to be reviewed and approved by FB | 13:56 |
| princefakhan | oh! I thought the users Login Review. | 13:57 |
| freemangordon | how cute, chat API is deprecated, but there is no replacement | 13:59 |
| scottc | "Was this document helpful" NO | 14:00 |
| freemangordon | scottc: I sent an error report on 4th of april, still no reply | 14:01 |
| scottc | typical facebook | 14:01 |
| freemangordon | you can't upload videos to FB which contain geo tags | 14:01 |
| freemangordon | and even put an example video on my webserver | 14:01 |
| freemangordon | nothing, but silense | 14:01 |
| scottc | great | 14:02 |
| freemangordon | I guess I will just close my account soon | 14:02 |
| scottc | I wish my friends weren't so reliant on Facebook | 14:02 |
| scottc | otherwise I already would have | 14:02 |
| princefakhan | I hope people knew the power of open source. | 14:02 |
| antranigv | may the source be with you... | 14:03 |
| antranigv | use the source, Luke! | 14:03 |
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| princefakhan | and then we wouldnt need wa, fb, line and tons of other IM and video/audio calling bullshit | 14:03 |
| antranigv | XMPP for ever! | 14:03 |
| antranigv | i call my gf via Jabber call on our N900s :P | 14:04 |
| princefakhan | yeah. xmpp. why need tons of shit for the same thing. | 14:04 |
| freemangordon | princefakhan: actually there are already tons of FOSS alternatives. well, maybe not to FB, but to all of the other stuff | 14:04 |
| princefakhan | yeah there are. but who uses them. the one who has a linux machine like us people. | 14:04 |
| freemangordon | how's linux related? | 14:04 |
| princefakhan | oops. android is linux too. lol. | 14:05 |
| antranigv | people just need to understand about privacy and free software | 14:05 |
| freemangordon | people just CBA | 14:05 |
| antranigv | CBA? | 14:05 |
| freemangordon | ~cba | 14:05 |
| infobot | rumour has it, cba is Can't Be Arsed. | 14:05 |
| freemangordon | == don;t care | 14:05 |
| antranigv | I converted many people to freesw and maemo/meego | 14:05 |
| princefakhan | the point is. use somethin that is cross plattform. and not just iOS, Android, WP | 14:06 |
| antranigv | my point is, as I always said, use technology, don't use/be products | 14:06 |
| antranigv | use email, not gmail/hangouts | 14:06 |
| freemangordon | ok, but when she buys her next device, it comes preinstalled with a pile of closed etc stuff | 14:07 |
| antranigv | use xmpp, not 100 products that use xmpp | 14:07 |
| KotCzarny | people are lazy | 14:07 |
| KotCzarny | its just that | 14:07 |
| antranigv | she = my gf? she'll never change her device after the N900 | 14:07 |
| freemangordon | so she simply uses what is on the device, without giving a damn whether it is foss/closed | 14:07 |
| KotCzarny | and as usual its not about quality of the product, but marketing | 14:07 |
| antranigv | she's in love the FCamera :D | 14:07 |
| KotCzarny | and coercing bunch of them so the rest will follow | 14:08 |
| princefakhan | just as freemangordon said, people just CBA | 14:08 |
| freemangordon | I speak in general, my lady uses N900 as daily device ;) | 14:08 |
| antranigv | nice! | 14:08 |
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| antranigv | there is another problem.. the media | 14:09 |
| princefakhan | I hope I had a lady. so I could gift her a n900. and we would jabber/xmpp. | 14:09 |
| princefakhan | or neo900 when it releases. | 14:09 |
| freemangordon | and I turned out my ex-wife to a linux (well ubuntu) user. But that's not enough when the other people en masse use google devices | 14:09 |
| antranigv | the media will never talk about how we use N900 in 2015, but will talk about windows 10 coming soon :P | 14:09 |
| freemangordon | princefakhan: you'd better do other things with your lady, not jabber etc, otherwise you'll soon have no lady :P | 14:10 |
| antranigv | any news from the neo900? | 14:10 |
| freemangordon | antranigv: sisce when? | 14:10 |
| antranigv | lol freemangordon | 14:10 |
| princefakhan | cuz, marketing. antranigv | 14:10 |
| freemangordon | *since | 14:10 |
| princefakhan | they want money. | 14:10 |
| scottc | I wish the neo900 had a nicer screen, then I'd honestly use it as my main phone | 14:10 |
| scottc | just not resistive touch | 14:10 |
| scottc | pls. | 14:10 |
| freemangordon | scottc: you have n900? | 14:10 |
| scottc | yeah | 14:10 |
| princefakhan | :D | 14:10 |
| princefakhan | haha. freemangordon | 14:10 |
| freemangordon | and you don;t like the screen?!? | 14:10 |
| scottc | resistive touch is the only thing that i don't like about it | 14:11 |
| freemangordon | hmm, are you sure your device is ok? | 14:11 |
| antranigv | freemangordon: Armenian and Russian IT always talks about MS stuff, and google. and etc | 14:11 |
| princefakhan | I dont like capacitive. | 14:11 |
| princefakhan | other than on those lumias | 14:11 |
| scottc | my screen is very scratched and sometimes doesn't register touches | 14:11 |
| scottc | but it was pre-owned and is in poor condition | 14:11 |
| freemangordon | scottc: oh, that makes sence then | 14:11 |
| antranigv | change the screen | 14:11 |
| antranigv | :D | 14:11 |
| freemangordon | otherwise I am still to find a device with better touch behaviour than n900 | 14:12 |
| princefakhan | resistive ftw. | 14:12 |
| scottc | getting a new screen might cost more than this phone cost me :P it was only 40 euro! | 14:12 |
| antranigv | anyone tried alpine on N900? | 14:12 |
| scottc | i didn't expect to see so much support for resistive touch, i better go hide :D | 14:12 |
| freemangordon | and I have access to lots of the so-called "flagship" device | 14:12 |
| freemangordon | scottc: see, your device is most-probably broken | 14:13 |
| antranigv | anyone here uses jolla? | 14:13 |
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| antranigv | i remember once one said "we need maemo port on Jolla phone" :P | 14:13 |
| antranigv | and that made my day xD | 14:13 |
| scottc | meee antranigv | 14:14 |
| scottc | haha | 14:14 |
| freemangordon | what for? | 14:14 |
| Pali | it would be even worse... | 14:14 |
| Pali | google is fucking email standards | 14:14 |
| antranigv | my friend has jolla, he said he likes the N900 much more. | 14:14 |
| antranigv | what? | 14:14 |
| freemangordon | makes sense | 14:14 |
| antranigv | gmail is standard? | 14:15 |
| Pali | just expects problems also with emails in near future | 14:15 |
| antranigv | you need google account for jolla? | 14:15 |
| antranigv | aha~ | 14:15 |
| scottc | I got my Jolla in February, N900 in March or April for fun and I like both :) | 14:15 |
| Pali | google has already implemented DMARC and SPF | 14:15 |
| antranigv | scottc: which one you like more? | 14:15 |
| Pali | we can just wait until in gmail.com DNS record appear DMARC policy=reject | 14:16 |
| freemangordon | scottc: I've nere used jolla, but from the reviews, videos, etc, I think the UI is overengineered | 14:16 |
| Pali | and all mailing lists stopped working with gmail.com addresses | 14:16 |
| antranigv | Google. killing the net since, lately. | 14:16 |
| scottc | antranigv: it depends really. n900 feels much more hackable and "linux", but a bit slower than the jolla. jolla's is getting better all the time though | 14:16 |
| antranigv | then, there will be 2 type of people. who move to gmail and who don't. | 14:16 |
| scottc | freemangordon: I really like the UI, I find it very intuitive | 14:17 |
| antranigv | I think we need the same N90 with better, hardware? | 14:17 |
| freemangordon | well, we can only hope EU to take countermeasures | 14:17 |
| antranigv | say, camera, CPU, RAM. | 14:17 |
| Pali | no, then there will be: people who leave gmail and who not | 14:17 |
| freemangordon | Pali: I am not sure I understand what exactly google are doing, could you elaborate? | 14:18 |
| antranigv | the only reason I have a gmail account is youtube. hope will install mediagoblin on my server soon. | 14:18 |
| Pali | DMARC is solution how to define policy stored in DNS for DKIM and SPF | 14:19 |
| freemangordon | scottc: how is jolla compared to harmattan? | 14:19 |
| Pali | DKIM is diginal signature of some email headers stored in email. signature is done by SMTP server with private key (which owns only sending SMTP server) | 14:20 |
| Pali | DMARC specify policies what to do if DKIM signature is invalid or missing | 14:20 |
| scottc | freemangordon: I've never actually used harmattan, unfortunately. i wanted to pick up an N9 to try it out but haven't found one cheaply. | 14:20 |
| Pali | obviosly, when you are sending emails from mailinglist STMP server it does not have private keys of gmai.com and therfore cannot sign those emails | 14:20 |
| antranigv | scottc: I was thinking about buying a N9 as well. | 14:21 |
| antranigv | is there FCamera for N9 ? | 14:21 |
| Pali | also mailinglist servers changing subject header (adding [list] prefix) and therefore if there is DKIM signature, it is invalid | 14:21 |
| scottc | antranigv: I'd like to try one, but I'm not sure how practical it would be... | 14:21 |
| freemangordon | Pali: oh, so the result will be - "only use our web interface and android devices"? | 14:22 |
| Pali | in DNS (gmail.com) record can be specified DMARC policy... e.g reject poclicy means to drop all emails from @gmail.com address without valid DKIM signature | 14:22 |
| Pali | and all systems which support DMARC must follow records in DNS | 14:23 |
| Pali | and signing key is only avalilable at smtp.gmail.com | 14:23 |
| Pali | so you need to use that smtp server for sending emails (or web interface which do that too internally) | 14:23 |
| Pali | but DMARC policy for gmail is not reject yet | 14:23 |
| freemangordon | mhm | 14:24 |
| antranigv | scottc: I find N9 very sexy. | 14:24 |
| Pali | but it is expected to change in near future | 14:24 |
| scottc | antranigv: me too! | 14:24 |
| antranigv | it would be nice to have maemo port on N9, if there is not yet. | 14:24 |
| freemangordon | scottc: antranigv: I have n950, and I can tell you that besides being prettier than n900, it losses by several laps in terms of usability | 14:25 |
| scottc | freemangordon: just due to the OS? hmm | 14:25 |
| freemangordon | not only | 14:25 |
| scottc | I'd like an n950 too, seems like a nice device | 14:25 |
| scottc | then how so? | 14:25 |
| freemangordon | only seems | 14:25 |
| Pali | basically I as mailing list admin will disallow sending emails from such hosts (with policy=reject) to mailing list to prevent lot of bouncing (as everybody with DMARC verifycation does not accept those emails...) | 14:25 |
| antranigv | yay you freemangordon :( are you a nokia dev? | 14:26 |
| freemangordon | hmm, no. how so? | 14:26 |
| Pali | as I said... I suggest everybody to stop using all google/gmail services, emails, etc... now! | 14:26 |
| freemangordon | :D | 14:26 |
| antranigv | Pali: any idea for youtube alternative? | 14:26 |
| freemangordon | but...but.. what is the alternative? | 14:26 |
| Pali | own hosting | 14:26 |
| antranigv | freemangordon: check http://prism-break.org/ | 14:26 |
| scottc | own hosting is such a pain in the ass | 14:27 |
| freemangordon | brign up my own e-mail server? | 14:27 |
| scottc | protonmail.ch looks good though | 14:27 |
| Pali | yes and without those fucking SPF, DMARC, ... | 14:27 |
| antranigv | yup, I did that one year ago, and now I;m happy~ | 14:27 |
| antranigv | now I have personal xmpp server, email, blog, etc. | 14:27 |
| freemangordon | hmm, I'll politely as maemo admins to register an account on maemo.org for me :D | 14:27 |
| freemangordon | *ask | 14:27 |
| antranigv | it would be nice to have user@member.maemo.org jabber accounts | 14:28 |
| antranigv | using prosody, to sync the maemo.org accounts. | 14:28 |
| freemangordon | anyway the only thing I use my gmail account is to post on LKML | 14:28 |
| antranigv | freemangordon: you can do the same without gmail. | 14:29 |
| Pali | https://dmarcian.com/dmarc-inspector/gmail.com | 14:29 |
| Pali | policy is still none | 14:29 |
| Pali | but those who have @google.com address have policy quarantine | 14:29 |
| Pali | https://dmarcian.com/dmarc-inspector/google.com | 14:29 |
| freemangordon | antranigv: yes, but my other account os on a server I have only http access to. no pop3 or smtp | 14:29 |
| antranigv | freemangordon: how much do you pay for a service like that? the best as i can see is digital ocean | 14:30 |
| antranigv | just 5$ a month, and you get a complete server | 14:30 |
| antranigv | you can also have a owncloud lol :P | 14:31 |
| freemangordon | antranigv: it is free. but it is a public mail sever | 14:31 |
| freemangordon | abv.bg | 14:31 |
| antranigv | russian? | 14:32 |
| freemangordon | bulgarian | 14:32 |
| antranigv | so similar | 14:32 |
| freemangordon | really? | 14:32 |
| antranigv | I can read it :D | 14:32 |
| freemangordon | :D | 14:32 |
| antranigv | how much space for files? | 14:32 |
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| freemangordon | 3GB or somesuch | 14:33 |
| antranigv | ohh that's much for free | 14:33 |
| freemangordon | oh, 10GB | 14:33 |
| freemangordon | "Използвате 1 % от 10000 MB лимит " | 14:33 |
| freemangordon | this is "you use 1% of 10000 MB limit" | 14:33 |
| antranigv | :D | 14:33 |
| freemangordon | also, there is file sharing service | 14:34 |
| antranigv | it's nice, I was going to show you another service, with IMAP, but it's only 100MB :D | 14:35 |
| RzR | hi are there any kernel committers around ? | 14:36 |
| freemangordon | RzR: which kernel? :) | 14:36 |
| RzR | freex | 14:36 |
| freemangordon | ~freex | 14:36 |
| freemangordon | ~wiki freex | 14:36 |
| infobot | At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freex (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{refimprove|date=December 2007}} {{Infobox comic book title |title=Freex |image= |imagesize= |caption= |schedule= |format= |publisher=Malibu Comics |date= |issues= |main_char_team=AJAnythingBoomboyCaymanPlugPressureSweetface |writers= |artists= |pencillers= |inkers= |letterers= |colorists= |creative_team_month= |creative_team_year= |creators=Gerard Jones & Ben Herrera |TPB= |ISBN= ... | 14:36 |
| freemangordon | hmm, a comic book? | 14:37 |
| RzR | Freax | 14:37 |
| RzR | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux#Naming | 14:37 |
| RzR | mainline | 14:37 |
| RzR | I have a patch to send to maintainers but pre review is welcome | 14:38 |
| freemangordon | none I am aware of, not sure if nishant has push rights | 14:38 |
| RzR | https://github.com/rzr/linux/commit/a044c60b0 | 14:38 |
| Pali | RzR: its ok, go ahead | 14:40 |
| freemangordon | RzR: you can add my "Reviewed by:" if it helps | 14:41 |
| RzR | It's based on master branch it's the good way to do this ? | 14:41 |
| RzR | Sure I can | 14:41 |
| freemangordon | RzR: but I am not the maintainer of that file, so it doesn;t make much of a sesne | 14:41 |
| freemangordon | RzR: just git-send-mail that patch to lkml | 14:41 |
| Pali | use git format-patch to generate patch file | 14:42 |
| Pali | then use ./scripts/get_maintainers.pl <patch_file> to get list of maintainers | 14:42 |
| freemangordon | Pali: oh, what was that script called, for patch checking? | 14:42 |
| Pali | and then use git send-email <patch_file> --to='email1' --to='email2' ... for senfing patch file | 14:42 |
| Pali | freemangordon: ./scripts/check_patch.pl | 14:42 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 14:43 |
| freemangordon | RzR: use ^^^ before sending | 14:43 |
| freemangordon | as I am not sure github correctly shows whitespaces | 14:43 |
| RzR | bbl | 14:43 |
| RzR | can't I just use git send-email ? | 14:52 |
| RzR | yea | 14:52 |
| RzR | ok | 14:52 |
| RzR | I know what to do now | 14:52 |
| Pali | RzR: git send-email can be configured to use smtp server instead local sendmail (if you need it) | 14:53 |
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| RzR | thx i got it working fine | 15:00 |
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| Lord_Farkenstein | hello bots | 17:49 |
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| princefakhan_ | hello. | 21:14 |
| princefakhan_ | just testing. | 21:14 |
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| princefakhan_ | I recieve a "cannot send to this channel" on another channel | 21:15 |
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| merlin1991 | princefakhan: could be that the channel is +m and you don't have voice | 21:16 |
| princefakhan | no it is not. | 21:17 |
| merlin1991 | interesting | 21:17 |
| princefakhan | it is only happening with my secondary nick. | 21:17 |
| princefakhan | guess that's because u have to register urself there. | 21:18 |
| princefakhan | I can have contact with this nick. | 21:18 |
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| princefakhan | I have been having frequent connects/disconnects too today. | 21:19 |
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| honestly | /7 | 21:25 |
| princefakhan | yes honestly honestly | 21:26 |
| princefakhan | merlin1991, u work on cssu-thumb? | 21:32 |
| merlin1991 | princefakhan: freemangordon does | 21:45 |
| merlin1991 | I just provide hosting | 21:45 |
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| princefakhan | hmmm. right. | 21:49 |
| itsupport | My favorite dish is potatoe. anyone else? | 21:49 |
| princefakhan | I wanted to know what are the cssu dev are doing these days. | 21:49 |
| princefakhan | maybe something exciting. | 21:50 |
| itsupport | oh hm what | 21:50 |
| KotCzarny | you should ask for permission before bringing talking bot | 21:50 |
| itsupport | I'm sorry | 21:51 |
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| DerHat | Hi, is Nitrdroid realy using 1150Mhz as default cpu frequency like described in NITDroid_FAQ? | 22:54 |
| DerHat | last time i overclocked maemo to 1150 i got a freeze after less then 1 sec | 22:54 |
| princefakhan | it must be if its in the official faqs | 22:55 |
| ShadowJK | afaik, freemangordon's "dsp" profile works to 950, but you need other profiles to go beyond that | 23:03 |
| freemangordon | it is 805 | 23:04 |
| ShadowJK | Ah right | 23:04 |
| freemangordon | 805 CPU 600 DSP | 23:04 |
| freemangordon | anything beyond that is too much for my taste | 23:04 |
| DerHat | Stability Issues? | 23:05 |
| DerHat | NITDroid uses 500 1150 default CPU clock settings which.... | 23:05 |
| DerHat | copyied from faq | 23:05 |
| freemangordon | yes, stability and EM considerations | 23:05 |
| ShadowJK | I keep mine at 600 most of the time, occasionally at 905 | 23:07 |
| DerHat | well, after i installed nitdroid i cannot boot maemo anymore, pressing 0 or 1 in boot menu results a boot-menu-loop ): | 23:07 |
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| princefakhan | any news about n15 | 23:10 |
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| merlin1991 | b.e.e.r. | 23:41 |
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