IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2015-05-01

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Win7Macmy desktop graphics card just seemed to die today... updated drivers and stuff to no avail :(02:09
Win7MacThen I read about baking them...02:09
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Win7Macso aluminium foil around it and 30 mins later at ~125° C - it works again!!!02:10
KotCzarnytemporary solution02:10
* Win7Mac is very impressed02:10
KotCzarnyit will die again02:10
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KotCzarnybad solder02:11
KotCzarnybad design02:11
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Win7MacGigabyte GTX 470OC02:11
KotCzarnyno warranty?02:12
Win7Mac~4 years old02:12
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Win7Machow much time am I supposed to gain before it dies again?02:13
KotCzarnymay be days, may be months02:13
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KotCzarnyif reballing costs less than 1/4 of the card do it, otherwise just buy new card02:15
ecc3gfound this02:17
ecc3gignore that02:17
RiDWin7Mac i did a ghetto ass reflow on my GTX 470, it lasted 6 months02:18
Win7Macguess ill have to look for a new card then02:18
RiDthen it died again, did another reflow, and ran out of thermal paste02:18
RiDso i dont know if it still works02:18
RiDtoo lazy to put some new paste in there02:18
Win7Macghetto ass reflow?02:18
RiDnot on the oven02:19
RiDi dont know the name but uh, i happen to have a "heat" gun?02:19
RiDi have to set it on one of the lowest levels or the whole thing melts02:19
RiD6 months was still nice02:20
ecc3gI have a heat gun used for paint stripping, its fan was strong enough to blow off a surface mount PCB I was testing it on... heh02:20
Win7Macbaking (oven) is more even i guess02:20
RiDyeah, some say to apply more heat on the "main" chip tho, i don't know02:20
Win7Macand no real reflow02:20
RiDoh just scrolled and saw that you also had a GTX 470 lol02:21
RiDi had mine clocked to 800/1900 :x02:22
Win7Macmine is OCed by factary02:22
Win7Macand is suppused to have a superb thermal design called "windforce"...02:26
ecc3ghow long did your video cards last before they croaked?02:26
ecc3gso far it's like they last 2 years for me...02:26
Win7Macnot really much longer i guess02:27
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ecc3gthough this RadeonHD 5770 has survived a bit so far... forgot when I bought it02:27
RiDthats about the same mine lasted02:27
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RiDi hope it still works but... lazyness02:27
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ds_shadofanyone using yappari?09:50
freemangordonds_shadof: I guess, judging byt the thread on TMO
ds_shadofi'm getting frequent disconnects. Every few minutes10:02
freemangordonds_shadof: pester ceene, he is on the channel10:04
KotCzarnyi would say 'report the problem bug nicely to the nice developer spending time working on the app'10:05
KotCzarnydevs are people too!10:05
freemangordonnaaah, no niceness to the developers :D10:05
KotCzarnythey need nice feedback from the users10:06
KotCzarnyotherwise they may go 'meh, fsck it'10:06
freemangordonKotCzarny: you know I don't really mean to "pester"10:06
KotCzarnyi know10:06
KotCzarnykidding too10:06
KotCzarnybut niceness is still good10:06
freemangordonoh, sure10:06
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Sicelods_shadof: seems to be related to network instabilities10:44
ds_shadofSicelo, every few minutes, in every location via different wifi networks?10:47
ds_shadofwith log message "There was an IO error: Connection closed by server."10:48
KotCzarnyare you using newest version?10:49
KotCzarnythere is yappari 2.0.10 in extras-devel10:49
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ds_shadofi'm using latest 2.0.10 521010:51
antranigvhay all, anyone good at porting console programs? (:10:52
KotCzarnyantranigv: console apps should work out-of-the-compile-box10:53
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antranigvKotCzarny: then I just have to compile it for the n900?10:53
KotCzarnyuse scratchbox10:54
* antranigv needs a good RSS reader10:54
antranigvI'm in love with this one
KotCzarnythen just copy binary (console apps are usually single binary)10:54
antranigvcool, I'll let you know (:10:54
bencohif it's in debian it should be *really* easy to port10:56
KotCzarnyyou can also check if debian-armel has already compiled it10:56
bencohapart from the deps hell10:56
bencohKotCzarny: debian-armel is hf ... isnt it ?10:56
KotCzarnydont know, im regularly snatching stuff from there10:56
KotCzarnyand it works10:56
bencohoh, okay10:56
KotCzarnythere is debian-arm and debian-armel10:57
KotCzarnysometimes i even snatch patches from there for armel related fixups10:57
antranigvfound it!
KotCzarnyantranigv: watchh out, unpack the package, dont install it directly10:58
KotCzarnyand you may need OLD one (sid or lenny) because libc is old10:58
KotCzarnyso check backports if it doesnt work10:58
antranigvoops. it's only jessie :-/10:58
KotCzarnygrab the source package and try to compile it in scratchbox10:59
antranigvthere is sid. ahh I'll compile it10:59
KotCzarnyyou can also try running the binary, there is a slim chance it would work10:59
bencohantranigv: you do have scratchbox ?10:59
antranigvjust need to make sure it needs the deps for compiling, not for running.11:00
antranigvbencoh: nop, I'll just install (:11:00
bencohmeh :)11:00
KotCzarnywasnt there a pre-prepared scratchbox image?11:00
bencohsure there is11:01
infobotfrom memory, scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at, hosted by maemo now. Also at
antranigvthank you infobot11:01
princefakhangive him something to eat instead.11:02
antranigvit would be nice to have gentoo on n900. idk.11:05
princefakhanbtw, I have a similar problem with yappari.11:05
antranigvah, now I need to download this 1.3Gb file? (:11:07
Siceloantranigv: Luke-Jr is your man :P11:07
Sicelore: gentoo on N90011:07
* antranigv loves #maemo community11:07
princefakhanantranigv: what are you upto?11:08
antranigvprincefakhan: just wanna port... a compiler (: and an RSS reader. and alpine (email client)11:09
KotCzarnyantranigv: porting compiler is.. hard11:09
antranigvthe compiler that I need has been ported once, before, the old version.11:10
KotCzarnyi wonder, will current deb-chroot's gcc run without problems?11:10
antranigvKotCzarny: nice idea, I can use the programs that I need in the chroot env.11:10
bencohantranigv: which compiler ?11:10
antranigvbencoh: it's Oberon-2 compiler, named voc.11:11
KotCzarnygcc 4.[789]11:11
antranigva maemo user created it btw.11:11
princefakhanantranigv: looks like a lot.11:11
bencohhm, what's that ...11:11
antranigvum, a programming language, it's pascal-ish11:12
princefakhanI hope you don't get stuck in dependency hell.11:12
bencoh.... mmmkay11:12
antranigvlike, the grandson of pascal11:12
antranigvwell, now I have 3 Nokia N900s, :D11:12
bencohergh, garbage collection11:12
bencohall three in good shape ?11:12
antranigvone's USB port is dead11:12
antranigvI'll fix it when (IF!) I go back to Armenia11:13
antranigvor buy a new one.11:13
princefakhanI wanted to compile a program. I had everything. but the dependencies were not available on our beloved n900.11:13
princefakhanand that was when I lost hope. that was something I was ogonna do for the first time. lol.11:14
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antranigvpardon me, what should I do after installing scratchbox? do we have a manual ?11:14
KotCzarnyantranigv: after sb install maemo sdk11:14
antranigvcool. that 1.3Gb file11:15
KotCzarnythere is a page on maemo.org11:15
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bencohantranigv: err .... you'll need libstfl as well11:15
bencoh(for newsbeuter)11:15
antranigvbencoh: is that... hell?11:15
bencohbut it's not in maemo11:15
bencohneither in extras11:15
bencohso someone has to build it11:16
KotCzarnyantranigv: you will see, you can also compile it in sb11:16
KotCzarnybut luckily most apps in linux are just unpack/configure/make/make install11:16
antranigvlet's hope it'll be (: ah, I need to find a way to understand11:16
KotCzarnyassuming you are building only for yourself11:16
bencohthere are wiki pages about sb, and the sb vm, and what to do with those11:16
KotCzarnybut then you will have to copy that lib too, also single file usually11:17
bencoh~google scratchbox11:17
bencoh~search scratchbox11:17
bencohinfobot: geee!11:17
bencohanyway, you get the idea :)11:18
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princefakhanbtw, is there any guide soemwhere for compiling programs. specifically for maemo.11:21
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princefakhanoh wow! I relly need to read. I musgt have opened that page about 5 times.11:23
KotCzarnythere was a page about adding hildon specific features11:24
princefakhanI remember now. I havent been able to download sb and vm image ever since.11:25
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princefakhanoh wow! you guys are fast. new clock-ui. now let me open ham and have my afternoon meal.11:37
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