IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2015-04-29

*** andril has quit IRC00:13
*** florian has quit IRC00:15
*** Kilroo has joined #maemo00:27
*** Pali has quit IRC00:35
*** mavhc has quit IRC00:43
*** mavhc has joined #maemo00:46
*** arcean has quit IRC00:48
*** erlehmann has joined #maemo01:07
*** mavhc has quit IRC01:10
*** xorly has quit IRC01:13
*** KotCzarny has joined #maemo01:23
*** Haudegen has quit IRC01:30
*** futpib has quit IRC01:31
*** vakkov has quit IRC01:36
*** vakkov has joined #maemo01:36
*** mavhc has joined #maemo01:42
*** Venusaur has quit IRC01:50
*** RedW has quit IRC02:02
*** Luke-Jr has quit IRC02:04
*** Venusaur has joined #maemo02:06
*** Luke-Jr has joined #maemo02:07
*** RedW has joined #maemo02:08
*** pentanol has joined #maemo02:30
*** chadi has quit IRC02:31
*** mhlavink_away has joined #maemo02:37
*** mhlavink_afk has quit IRC02:41
*** mhlavink_away has quit IRC02:45
*** mhlavink_afk has joined #maemo02:46
*** Kilroo has quit IRC02:59
*** saponga has joined #maemo03:18
*** Kilroo has joined #maemo03:36
*** vakkov has quit IRC03:45
*** LauRoman has joined #maemo03:45
*** LauRoman|Alt has quit IRC03:49
*** FlameReaper-PC has joined #maemo03:58
*** donga has joined #maemo04:05
*** donga has quit IRC04:15
*** FlameReaper-PC has quit IRC04:43
*** Humpelst1lzchen has joined #maemo04:54
*** Humpelstilzchen has quit IRC04:55
*** saponga has quit IRC05:18
*** vakkov has joined #maemo05:28
*** maybeWTF has joined #maemo05:31
*** maybeHere has quit IRC05:34
*** vakkov has quit IRC05:37
*** beford has joined #maemo05:40
*** vakkov has joined #maemo05:50
*** eMHa_ has joined #maemo05:52
*** eMHa has quit IRC05:55
*** neal__ has joined #maemo06:00
*** lxp has joined #maemo06:01
*** neal has quit IRC06:04
*** lxp1 has quit IRC06:04
*** freemangordon has quit IRC06:14
*** freemangordon has joined #maemo06:14
*** ArGGu^^ has quit IRC06:18
*** ArGGu^^ has joined #maemo06:20
*** strohalm has quit IRC06:29
*** strohalm has joined #maemo06:29
*** TriztAway has quit IRC06:29
*** Trizt has joined #maemo06:31
*** erlehmann has quit IRC06:39
*** shamus has quit IRC06:50
*** shamus has joined #maemo06:50
*** Pali has joined #maemo06:54
*** pentanol has quit IRC06:58
*** rm_work is now known as rm_work|away07:00
*** Pali has quit IRC07:07
*** pentanol has joined #maemo07:11
*** protem has joined #maemo07:17
*** rm_work|away is now known as rm_work07:17
*** Oksana has quit IRC07:17
*** pentanol has quit IRC07:35
*** pentanol has joined #maemo07:35
*** uuhimhere has joined #maemo07:37
*** FlameReaper has joined #maemo07:50
*** uuhimhere has quit IRC08:02
*** VDVsx has quit IRC08:21
*** Cor-Ai_ has quit IRC08:31
*** Cor-Ai has joined #maemo08:32
*** MikaT has quit IRC08:38
*** VDVsx has joined #maemo08:47
*** xorly has joined #maemo08:51
*** LauRoman has quit IRC08:53
*** zGrr has quit IRC08:59
*** hubutm20 has quit IRC09:04
*** hubutm20 has joined #maemo09:04
*** futpib has joined #maemo09:13
*** MikaT has joined #maemo09:14
*** xorly has quit IRC09:22
*** esaym153 has quit IRC09:26
*** esaym153 has joined #maemo09:27
*** pentanol has quit IRC09:31
*** beford has quit IRC09:36
*** pentanol has joined #maemo09:38
*** futpib has quit IRC09:39
*** infobot has joined #maemo09:56
pentanolhi there10:08
pentanolcould someone suggest app for image viewing?10:08
pentanolI need make pictures bigger sometimes when I look on it and default app can't make this.10:09
*** _rd has joined #maemo10:09
*** florian has joined #maemo10:16
*** realitygaps has quit IRC10:19
*** realitygaps has joined #maemo10:22
*** esaym153 has quit IRC10:28
*** esaym153 has joined #maemo10:29
*** Haudegen has joined #maemo10:32
*** _rd has quit IRC10:33
*** xorly has joined #maemo10:34
*** user_ has joined #maemo10:34
*** user_ is now known as zahil0510:35
*** pentanol has quit IRC10:38
*** zahil05 has left #maemo10:38
*** ad-n770 has joined #maemo10:38
*** freemangordon_ has joined #maemo10:42
sixwheeledbeastIs there much call for an image viewer on Maemo? Sounds like a nice little project for someone.10:43
KotCzarnyi have one, but unreleased10:44
KotCzarnycan view png,jpg,gif(animated),bmp,xpm,pdf etc10:45
KotCzarnyas usual, fast and convenient10:45
KotCzarnyand low on dependencies10:45
KotCzarnyand tiff10:51
KotCzarnyand most likely any other format if i ever need one10:51
sixwheeledbeastKotCzarny: FOSS?11:01
sixwheeledbeastIf there's a good one in the repos I won't look into a Qt one.11:02
Wizzupfeh? ;)11:02
KotCzarnyswb: free, yes, but havent' decided if oss11:03
Wizzupnot sure if it is worth mentioning then ;)11:03
KotCzarnyand no qt/gtk dep11:03
KotCzarnywizzup, have you tried my oscp player?11:03
KotCzarnyi wrote one because no other player was able to do everything i needed media player to do11:05
KotCzarnyand the way i wanted11:05
KotCzarnysame story with that pic viewer11:05
WizzupI only install (f)oss, so ind if it is, but I probably didn't11:06
WizzupI don't use my n900 vor animated media11:06
KotCzarnywizzup, yeah, tell me about your foss device drivers11:06
KotCzarnywizzup, everyone who tried oscp liked it11:07
Wizzupthat is irrelevant, I don't need it11:07
KotCzarnyjust saying about 'worth mentioning' argument11:08
*** freemangordon_ has quit IRC11:08
Wizzupif it is not foss, I am not interested11:08
Wizzupthat some drivers are currently closed is not relevant either11:08
KotCzarnyyeah, but as i said, your device contains closed binaries anyway11:08
KotCzarnyits either 100% foss or is irrelevant11:09
Wizzupnot at all11:09
Wizzupthat's quite black-and-white11:09
KotCzarnyand even then, silicon can have 'bugs'11:09
KotCzarnyso your argument is invalid11:09
Wizzupmy argument is being twisted into oblivion by you11:10
KotCzarnynot at all11:10
bencohKotCzarny: closed "core"/base blobs vs closed third-party apps11:10
Wizzuphave a good day11:10
KotCzarnyyou cant have 99.9% foss11:10
KotCzarnyit's either 100% or your device (might be|is) already owned11:10
*** protem has quit IRC11:10
WizzupThis has nothing to do with owned11:11
Wizzuppoint in case, misrepresenting my argument11:11
Wizzupmy device is already owned by the shm closed modem11:11
KotCzarnypoint in case of being too vague in argumenting11:11
*** _rd has joined #maemo11:13
bencohWizzup: not on n90011:13
bencohsixwheeledbeast: maybe we can build something on top of sxiv or feh (both in extras-devel)11:13
bencohthey're quite lightweight11:14
*** aloril_ has joined #maemo11:19
*** aloril__ has quit IRC11:22
*** zGrr has joined #maemo11:29
zGrrmoin :)11:29
*** xorly has quit IRC11:50
*** xorly has joined #maemo11:57
*** freemangordon_ has joined #maemo12:02
*** erlehmann has joined #maemo12:09
*** Openbot has joined #maemo12:10
Openbotsixwheeledbeast kotczarny image viewer on maemo is apita i exclusively use fcam mostly just for the shake of imageviewer as that is lightning fast12:12
bencohfcam is "lighting fast" only because it loads the pre-scaled thumbnail in the RAW file12:14
Openbotdownside is images are in the range of 10.6 mb each so much space is wasted but still when showing photos to someone it just works12:14
bencohuntil you start zooming on a few photos12:15
Openbotbencoh zooming is fast too but uninitutive12:15
bencohit will slow down after a few pictures12:15
Openbottakes a sec or so to zoom12:15
KotCzarnyare we talking about cam app or pic viewer?12:15
bencohpic viewer12:16
Openbotna i am using it for long no slow downs here12:16
bencohbut Openbot brough fcam up12:16
bencoh(and yeah, it's not a picture viewer :)12:16
Openbotkotczarny pic viewer12:16
Openboti hate to call the stock photo viewer a photo viewer12:17
Openbotits nice but switching through photos is a pain12:17
Openbotkotczarny i think you should release your app someday12:19
Openbotmaybe its nice12:19
KotCzarnyit is12:19
Openboti dont believe12:19
KotCzarnyjust i dont have time/motivation to pack it into a deb (as usual)12:19
Openbotdont get offended but there are heck a lot but all a pita12:20
KotCzarnythats why i wrote my own12:20
Openbotmy god12:20
Openboti choose softmeng as career12:21
Openbotsoft engg12:21
Openbotwhat features your app has ? does it intregate with system can it be set as default viewer12:23
KotCzarnydefine 'integrate'12:24
KotCzarnybecause most integration is done via assigning filetype12:24
Openboti.e ability to share images12:24
Openbotvia sharing plugins12:24
KotCzarnynever needed one, could be written if one needs12:24
Openbotlittle editing features ike cropping brightness contrast resizing12:25
KotCzarnyits a picture viewer, not editor12:26
KotCzarnybut given enough need, can be easily done12:26
Openbotsure but they are essential and its for granted in most image viewers12:27
KotCzarnyno, they are essential for camera app12:28
KotCzarnypics are already prepared12:28
Openbotcamera app ??12:28
KotCzarnyyeah, if your source material is 'raw'12:28
Openbotna fcam also saves jpg12:29
KotCzarnyif you download pictures from internet, they are usually already 'done'12:29
Openbotand as you brought up it should show raw files too12:30
*** N-Mi has joined #maemo12:30
KotCzarnyno, i meant raw as taken from angle or badly prepared scene12:30
Openbotyou dont get it what if i want to crop a part then upload or just increase the contrast so that loolks pretty on device12:31
KotCzarnyas i said, you usually edit/share pics taken by yourself via cam12:31
KotCzarnypicture viewer is for viewing generic pictures/images12:32
Openbothumm you are going jpg vs raw12:32
*** hubutm20 has quit IRC12:32
Openbotok leave raw behind12:32
KotCzarnyno, as i said, it was about raw source, not raw as .raw12:33
*** hubutm20 has joined #maemo12:33
*** pentanol has joined #maemo12:33
*** pentanol has joined #maemo12:33
Openbotclarify pls i dont get a word ?12:33
pentanolIm still looking for pictures viewer with zoom support.12:34
KotCzarnyoscv has zoom support12:34
Openboti am not talking something like gimp just things like which are present in stock viewer12:35
Openbotoscv nice name12:35
KotCzarnyyeah, it started from osc app12:35
KotCzarnywhich is a simple oscilloscope with pixel engine12:35
Openbotoscp gained some traction12:36
KotCzarnythen i just added diff formats and bam, picture viewer12:36
KotCzarnyoscp is a audio player12:36
Wizzupfeh does all this12:36
*** zGrr has quit IRC12:36
Openboti am lisining on oscp now too12:36
Wizzupand is fast and lightweight12:36
Openbotfeh ?12:36
KotCzarnypicture viewer12:36
bencohfeh isnt that fast on n900, but it's "good enough"12:37
Openbotlet me check where on mother earth is that12:37
bencohand it's not really touchscreen friendly, unfortunately12:37
Openbotkotczarny download fcam take some shots swipe up and try scrolling fast12:39
Openbotyou will feel it12:39
KotCzarnyfeel what?12:39
pentanolKotCzarny in what repo oscv exists?12:39
Openbotswitching speed of pics i.e fastest on maemo12:39
Openboti am waiting for oscv12:40
Openbotto change that12:40
*** zGrr has joined #maemo12:42
Openbotalso does it open fast like stock viewer12:42
bencohstock viewer "opens fast" because it runs in the background12:42
Openbotbut pls intregate sharing functions as found in stock viewer12:42
bencohlike the browser, or the rtcom UIs12:42
Openbotpreload stuff u mean12:43
bencohyeah you can call that "preloading"12:43
Openbotmy netbook got a speed boost after installing preload demon12:44
pentanolKotCzarny could you give a link to oscv?12:45
Openbotpentanol its unreleased12:45
Openbotand no torrents for noe ?p12:45
Openbotnext if only someone adds flash support and terrible shutter lag in fcam as explaind in garage12:48
Openbotmy n900 would fly12:48
bencohthe shutter lag is a tough one12:48
*** sparetire has quit IRC12:49
bencohas explained on the fcam documentation, it's because of the resolution switch handling in the v4l drivers12:49
Openboti don't know i read it coudnt get a thing but there are poeople who know better12:49
bencohso you'd need to either 1. patch the underlying v4l drivers, or 2. use max res for the preview shots12:50
bencoh1. would need some work12:50
Openbotalso if i read it correct then fixed resolution of 640 would do12:50
bencoh2. would be slow (the camera cant go higher than 12fps at max res iirc) and take more memory12:51
Openbotmemory should not be a issue if fcam perfoms well12:51
bencohs/be slow/feel slow/12:51
infobotbencoh meant: 2. would feel slow (the camera cant go higher than 12fps at max res iirc) and take more memory12:51
Openbotseriously stock app feels crap now12:52
Openbotstock app only used when something fast is to be shot12:53
Openbotand i love the image viewer too :p12:53
Openbotkotczarny big question is it touch friendly12:54
*** Haudegen has quit IRC12:55
Openbotthings like cutetubes player fcams viewer are exceptional12:56
*** Openbot has quit IRC12:57
*** Haudegen has joined #maemo13:12
*** xorly has quit IRC13:33
*** norayr has joined #maemo13:42
*** Haudegen has quit IRC14:07
sixwheeledbeastKotCzarny: Many don't use the non-free repo because they feel strongly about open software. I don't have many non-free apps. Maybe SMM10 that's it.14:12
sixwheeledbeastThere was plenty of non-free crap in Ovi which not many used, me and pichlo made 'bander' to replace 'resistors' offscreen app.14:17
*** _rd has quit IRC14:17
*** freemangordon_ has quit IRC14:18
sixwheeledbeastTouch friendly and Maemo styling would be important. Also is the stock app FOSS? Can the stock app be replaced via CSSU easily?14:19
*** FlameReaper has quit IRC14:20
*** geaaru has joined #maemo14:20
*** Haudegen has joined #maemo14:21
*** freemangordon_ has joined #maemo14:26
sixwheeledbeastAs bencho says stock one is preloaded eating your RAM, so if it was to be replaced I would want to loose the stock one from being in memory.14:41
sixwheeledbeastCome to thing of it, browser being in memory would be annoying too if the browser was replaced.14:42
infobotsixwheeledbeast meant: Come to think of it, browser being in memory would be annoying too if the browser was replaced.14:42
bencohsixwheeledbeast: you can prevent both of them to be preloaded14:43
bencoherm, you can prevent image-viewer, browserd is still needed for rtcom-ui*14:43
sixwheeledbeastbut they hang around if loaded?14:43
sixwheeledbeastah yes I remember this now, browserd needed for call-ui14:44
bencohthere are a few other preloaded apps on maemo, I "disabled" a few here14:44
bencohthere is a single line to change/remove in the desktop file iirc14:45
bencohX-Maemo-Prestarted in /usr/share/applications/hildon/*.desktop14:47
freemangordon_guys, programs being "preloaded" is not that bad, as soon as RAM is needed, their executable pages are evicted14:56
freemangordon_and data is swapped14:57
freemangordon_also, iirc, broswerd gets SIGSTOP when not needed14:57
*** ssvb has quit IRC14:59
sixwheeledbeasthmm, ok. freemangordon_ do you have an opinion on image-viewer? and how easy a replacement could drop in. if one was found/made.15:04
KotCzarnyfreemangordon_: whats the point then? more swap churning?15:14
freemangordon_KotCzarny: the point is that symbol resolution would not take place when the executable is needed15:17
KotCzarnybest way would be creating software that is slim15:18
freemangordon_faster startup ;)15:18
freemangordon_it is already slim15:18
KotCzarnydos only needs 512kB15:18
KotCzarnyand can run word15:18
KotCzarnywell, kind of15:19
freemangordon_sixwheeledbeast: if it is GTK, then it should be ok. I doubt Qt replacement will do it better15:19
freemangordon_or even on par15:19
KotCzarnyive always perveived qt as a memory hod15:19
freemangordon_it is15:19
freemangordon_but is waaaay easier than gtk to program with15:20
freemangordon_at least to me15:20
KotCzarnysize vs convenience15:20
KotCzarnyon n900 its unfortunatelly size15:21
KotCzarnyso smart apps are needed15:21
KotCzarnylcuk started writing his own toolkit15:21
freemangordon_sixwheeledbeast: BTW, what about image-viewer? is that the last non-foss application to deal with?15:21
bencohactually image-viewer isnt that slow ... it just doesnt "feel smooth"15:21
KotCzarnypity he didnt have a chance to finish :/15:21
freemangordon_bencoh: smooth?15:22
sixwheeledbeastYep, I understand Qt has a lot of libs, but many packages use it anyway.15:22
freemangordon_bencoh: comeon, it is not IV itself, it is the HW behind it15:22
bencohfreemangordon_: yeah, the UI ... you know, when you move/swipe between pictures you have this perceptible "stutter"15:22
sixwheeledbeastfreemangordon_: No, it was just on topic that image-viewer was pants and pretty much useless.15:23
sixwheeledbeastI have no idea on ~closed status15:23
infobotit has been said that closed is or, or
sixwheeledbeastwell no features you would expect from a image-viewer. Zoom for example.15:23
*** zGrr has quit IRC15:23
bencohit can zoom but it doesnt feel natural either15:24
freemangordon_wait, what? you can zoom in image-viewer. as well as rotate, crop, etc, etc15:24
WizzupI doubt qt will be the main memory overhead.15:25
sixwheeledbeast[[pentanol: I need make pictures bigger sometimes when I look on it and default app can't make this.]]15:25
freemangordon_oh, you meant resize?15:25
*** Hurrian has joined #maemo15:26
Wizzupyou can zoom in15:26
freemangordon_Wizzup: unless someone implements launcher for qt apps the same way as for gtk, qt applications startup times will be alwasys 2-3 times bigger than gtk15:26
bencohfreemangordon_: hm, how would that work, by the way (qt launcher) ?15:27
freemangordon_take  clock-ui for example15:27
Wizzupstartup times are again very different from memory overhead15:27
freemangordon_oh, it is the same this time15:27
freemangordon_bencoh: you know maemo launcher?15:28
freemangordon_applications are basically compiled as .so files15:28
freemangordon_and then launcher forks, without need to load the needed libraries every time.15:28
freemangordon_that saves both memory and CPU15:29
bencohcommon libraries should already be loaded ... is it about initialization ?15:29
bencohis maemo-launcher opensource ?15:29
freemangordon_and there is even a sample Qt preloader15:30
freemangordon_or whatever it is called15:30
bencohthx (fetched in sb already :)15:32
*** ssvb has joined #maemo15:32
bencohoooh, it's supposed to be modular and support different "booster module"15:33
bencohand there is a booster_qt.c15:34
freemangordon_yep, but it is empty15:34
bencohwhich looks like a placeholder15:34
*** _rd has joined #maemo15:36
bencohdoes it need anything from the app (apart from being built with correct flags ?)15:39
bencohit looks like everything should be taken care of, but ...15:40
freemangordon_just make sure it exports only main() and all other symbols are static15:40
sixwheeledbeastso something can be done to make qt apps load faster?15:46
bencohfreemangordon_: do you know how the qt "launcher" on meego/HARM works ?15:47
bencohthey have something as well iirc15:47
bencohhmm, it looks like it's just for qtquick stuff15:48
freemangordon_sixwheeledbeast: yes15:52
freemangordon_bencoh: no idea15:52
sixwheeledbeasthmm, ok. That would be good.15:53
sixwheeledbeastEspecially now qt FOSS replacements are finally finding there way into CSSU15:54
sixwheeledbeastclock-ui can take an age to load when you need to set an alarm, for example.15:54
bencohI'd love it for marble ;)16:00
*** ir2ivps6 has quit IRC16:01
*** pentanol has quit IRC16:06
*** _rd has quit IRC16:11
*** _rd has joined #maemo16:12
*** ir2ivps6 has joined #maemo16:32
*** FlameReaper-PC has joined #maemo16:35
*** vakkov has quit IRC16:52
*** goldkatze has joined #maemo17:05
*** freemangordon_ has quit IRC17:06
*** peetah has quit IRC17:16
Vajbi can confirm. I allmost fall asleep while clock-ui loads...17:19
Humpelst1lzchenVajb: did you delete old alarms?17:21
Humpelst1lzchennever define more then half a dozen alarms, the MHz CPU can not handle more17:22
Humpelst1lzchenaye :)17:24
Vajbi have one alarm which trickers at same time during week days and other which i edit for nap17:26
Humpelst1lzchenVajb: active or total list?17:27
Vajbtotal list shown in ap17:27
Vajbis there some file where it stores those alarms?17:28
Humpelst1lzchenyes textfile, but don't remember the name17:28
Vajbbut if i edit same alarm over and over again will it still save some traces somewhere?17:29
Humpelst1lzchendon't think so17:29
Vajbi think i agree. Because otherwise it would be rather funny design17:30
*** norayr has quit IRC17:32
*** peetah has joined #maemo17:34
*** peetah has quit IRC17:34
povbot_Bug 10707: Clock application is very slow to start with lots of saved alarms17:36
*** zGrr has joined #maemo17:36
KotCzarnyisnt that ugly?17:36
zGrrwho is that ugly?17:36
*** peetah has joined #maemo17:36
* Humpelst1lzchen has 8 alarms in arlarm_queue.ini17:38
*** eMHa_ has quit IRC17:39
*** peetah has quit IRC17:40
Humpelst1lzchenthats why we need GHz CPUs17:40
bencohto be able to program moar alarms ?17:41
*** peetah has joined #maemo17:42
Humpelst1lzchenat least 200MHz/Alarm17:42
KotCzarnypound the alarm!17:42
*** _rd has quit IRC17:42
Vajbi have less than 817:45
*** peetah has quit IRC17:49
*** vakkov has joined #maemo17:55
*** xorly has joined #maemo17:57
*** eMHa_ has joined #maemo18:06
*** peetah has joined #maemo18:06
*** peetah has quit IRC18:20
*** peetah has joined #maemo18:23
*** zGrr has left #maemo18:28
*** peetah has quit IRC18:38
*** peetah has joined #maemo18:43
*** peetah has quit IRC18:52
*** rm_work is now known as rm_work|away18:53
*** krbtgt_ has joined #maemo18:57
*** arcean has joined #maemo18:57
*** peetah has joined #maemo18:59
krbtgt_i've been a while since i've touched my N900 - are these repos down (this is 1.3.1, no CSSU yet, want to check before i install it)
*** peetah has quit IRC19:08
*** _rd has joined #maemo19:09
*** peetah has joined #maemo19:13
*** peetah has quit IRC19:14
*** mavhc has quit IRC19:16
*** peetah has joined #maemo19:16
*** mavhc has joined #maemo19:25
*** mavhc has quit IRC19:29
*** mavhc has joined #maemo19:30
*** N-Mi has quit IRC19:34
*** LauRoman|Alt has joined #maemo19:35
*** peetah has quit IRC19:38
bencohkrbtgt_: they are, see talk.maemo.org19:38
krbtgt_should i remove them?19:38
*** peetah has joined #maemo19:40
*** florian has quit IRC19:41
*** peetah has quit IRC19:41
bencohkrbtgt_: there are some mirrors (and for now you'll need one to install CSSU, until this issue is resolved) ... see TMO :)19:44
*** peetah has joined #maemo19:46
krbtgt_yeah, i just want to resolve any missing repos and held back packages before i install CSSU19:46
*** goldkatze has quit IRC19:56
*** _rd has quit IRC20:08
*** vakkov has quit IRC20:10
*** Haudegen has quit IRC20:12
*** ad-n770 has quit IRC20:16
*** RzR has quit IRC20:18
*** RzR has joined #maemo20:20
*** Haudegen has joined #maemo20:27
*** vakkov has joined #maemo20:28
sixwheeledbeastVajb: Humpelst1lzchen: that bug maybe unrelated to Qt. It depends what version of clock-ui you have.20:32
sixwheeledbeastCSSU-Testing has a FOSS Qt one. CSSU-Stable has the stock one unless you installed it as an extras package20:34
*** _rd has joined #maemo20:50
*** geaaru has quit IRC20:55
*** rm_work|away is now known as rm_work21:07
*** _rd has quit IRC21:12
*** KotCzarny has quit IRC21:13
*** KotCzarny has joined #maemo21:23
Vajbsixwheeledbeast: im running on cssu-testing21:26
Vajbclock is perfectly usable, but it just takes some patience to use it. It starts up in less than 10 seconds i think21:27
KotCzarnywhat does it has to do to take so long21:29
*** japa-fi_ is now known as japa-fi21:29
*** _rd has joined #maemo21:29
merlin1991bencoh: I think the meego/harm launcher was even open source, but if you're interested in a fairly recent prelauncher for qt stuff I'd look into the sailfish one, it's called mapplauncherd / invoker
merlin1991if we could adapt that to also support gtk stuff we would have a nice fancy booster package, but I think we'd have to backport MComponentCache to our Qt for that21:32
*** lobito has quit IRC21:35
*** _rd has quit IRC21:41
*** sparetire has joined #maemo21:47
*** Pali has joined #maemo21:47
*** auenf has quit IRC21:49
*** auenf has joined #maemo21:52
*** shamus has quit IRC21:59
*** shamus has joined #maemo22:00
*** Neutron has quit IRC22:02
*** futpib has joined #maemo22:06
bencohmerlin1991: is it a generic qt loader or just for qtquick/qml/qdeclarative ?22:08
*** shamus has quit IRC22:10
*** shamus has joined #maemo22:10
*** erlehmann has quit IRC22:16
krbtgt_what mirrors for the repos do you recommend?22:19
*** _rd has joined #maemo22:20
*** qt_junkie has quit IRC22:35
*** eMHa_ has quit IRC22:37
krbtgt_(or even better: post your HAM repo config)22:45
*** florian has joined #maemo22:45
krbtgt_i'm using the "muarf" mirror but keys expired (is that nokia's fault or mine?)22:45
*** Humpelst1lzchen has quit IRC22:46
*** Humpelstilzchen has joined #maemo22:47
KotCzarnynokia is no more22:48
krbtgt_ok, now some packages are held back because mp-fremantle-generic-pr doesnt want them touched23:00
krbtgt_what should be done regarding that before SSU is installed?23:00
*** RzR has quit IRC23:01
*** RzR has joined #maemo23:03
*** eMHa_ has joined #maemo23:21
*** g3kk3r has quit IRC23:32
*** g3kk3r has joined #maemo23:32
*** FlameReaper-PC has quit IRC23:38
krbtgt_should i upgrade and thus remove that package or keep the packages held back?23:46
*** shamus has quit IRC23:49

Generated by 2.15.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at!