IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2015-04-27

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Sicelokerio: that mac pro definitely has some serious specs. wow00:12
kerioit's a powerful trashcan, yeah00:12
kerioapple makes decent hardware, really00:15
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bencohkerio: neverending troll ;p00:52
keriono seriously :c00:53
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pentanolI give my n900 to the phone service. And thay are told that imei was wiped. How can I be sure that I have this or not?06:33
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pentanolussd *#06# saying that imei is blank.06:50
svetawhat was the priginal problem with it07:12
pentanolsveta n900 no seeing the sim-card07:35
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KotCzarnywell, you can always install some voip software and use it instead of gsm07:55
KotCzarnyin the worst case that you cant set imei again07:56
KotCzarnypentanol: and most likely n900 sees the card, but isnt allowed by gsm network to register08:06
KotCzarnyif you can see contacts from the card then its the case08:06
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KotCzarnyoh, and another solution would be neo900 board08:28
pentanolKotCzarny yes, I can see contacts from sim-card.08:35
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KotCzarnymy bet would be someone tried to change imei, but failed, and now checksums dont work out and its not being set08:37
KotCzarnysomeone reported that no-connection was fixed by updating apps08:42
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KotCzarnyyou can also try global and regionalized firmware08:52
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KotCzarnyanother possibility is that gsm module is loose09:00
KotCzarnyand another is trying old firmware versions09:01
KotCzarny1.2 or earlier09:01
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chem|stKotCzarny: once had working 1.3 there is no going back to <1.3 as the modem hardware got flashed12:28
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zGrrmoin :)13:24
svetlanahi, zGrr13:24
zGrrsvetlana:  привет! :)13:26
svetlanaой, привет13:26
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princefakhanhello guys13:57
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freemangordon_warfare: there seems to be some problem with maemo.org16:00
warfarefreemangordon_: -v, please16:01
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warfarefreemangordon_: "please be more verbose" - as a platform or just the website (which icinga alarmed me about 10 Minutes ago) ;)16:02
freemangordon_warfare: seems down16:02
freemangordon_"It's not just you! looks down from here. "16:02
freemangordon_warfare: I still cannot ssh into it, trying for the last 40 seconds16:03
warfarefreemangordon_: I'm killing the vm, lots and lots of OOM killer messages.16:03
freemangordon_It is either DoS attacked or..., dunno16:03
warfareOut of memory: Kill process 23878 (apache2) score 29 or sacrifice child16:04
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warfareShould be back now.16:06
freemangordon_yep, it is up16:06
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bencohyay, thx :)16:16
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princefakhanfinally! I made it work. yeah!19:06
princefakhanare cssu devs here too?19:11
Sicelowhat works?19:21
Siceloah, xchat :)19:23
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princefakhanyeah. xchat.19:36
princefakhan@Sicelo: I was actually signed on both XChat and that conversations plugin. and so I was stuck and finally my battery died. lol19:38
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sixwheeledbeastprincefakhan: #maemo-ssu is where the devs hang about for CSSU decisions19:49
princefakhanif I want to request a feature in cssu, should I go there.19:50
sixwheeledbeastwhat feature?19:51
princefakhanwell I would want to have full browsing experience in portrait mode in MicroB19:52
princefakhanif I want to go to menu or desktop I have to slide out keyboard and then to the menu.19:52
princefakhanif we could have something like in landscape where you can enter exit fullscreen it could work19:54
bencohwhich menu ?19:56
bencohlauncher menu ?19:56
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sixwheeledbeastI have already reported that20:09
sixwheeledbeastoh ...gone20:09
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sixwheeledbeastprincefakhan: I have already reported that issue20:09
sixwheeledbeastTBH MicroB is old and we need to look at putting effort into a modern lightweight browser.20:10
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sixwheeledbeastQML Browser was looking promising, also emdedlite until there was a roadblock I believe20:11
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princefakhan_sixwheeledbeast thanks for the info.20:14
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princefakhan_my battery died. :)20:15
sixwheeledbeastprincefakhan_: also I was told the part of MicroB that causes the issue is closed anyway.20:15
bencohyeah, the UI is closed :(20:15
sixwheeledbeastSo not easy to patch either.20:16
infoboti guess closed is or, or
princefakhan_oh yeah! didn't give a thought on that20:16
princefakhan_qmlbrowser isn't working as expected. it is sluggish.20:19
princefakhan_I'm not sure if it is the browser or my phone.20:20
bencohnot your phone20:21
bencohit often feels "slower" than microb20:21
bencohscrolling is definitely slower (but microb cheats a bit with the "chessboard pattern")20:22
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bencohthe jscore engine (used in qmlbrowser) is much faster though20:23
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bencohmeh :)20:24
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sixwheeledbeastWhile on topic, MicroB for me has not been opening the Bookmarks window at start up and i have NFC why.20:27
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sixwheeledbeastHmm yes I NFC why, no option to do that, it has only started lately. I get a single [untitled] browser page and have to open bookmarks myself.20:34
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dos1is it possible to replace the n900 speaker in the case?20:35
princefakhansorry guys. I was on kiwiirc on android/chrome. it kept reloading the moment I went to another page. :)20:35
princefakhanNFC as in near field communication?20:36
dos1no f... clue :)20:36
princefakhancould someone tell me how frequently irc logs are refreshed20:38
KotCzarnycheck the last visible message then do the math20:39
princefakhanthat is exactly what I'm doing. ;)20:40
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Sicelosixwheeledbeast: i would like to have that. i don't quite like having to start at bookmarks menu20:41
sixwheeledbeastSicelo: it's annoying. You can't even select a home page!20:42
infobotit has been said that nfc is No Fucking Clue, or near field communications20:42
Sicelobut i like that because you can just type your desired page without the creation of a new window .. which is what i actually don't like.20:43
Siceloso if the bookmarks menu didn't have to launch a new window, sure, i'd like ti20:43
sixwheeledbeastlogs are pretty live ~5 minutes delay20:43
sixwheeledbeastif that20:44
infobotsixwheeledbeast: :)20:44
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princefakhan5 mins it is.20:44
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sixwheeledbeastSicelo: Well I need to know how it happened first ;)20:45
princefakhanwe have no near field communication too. lol!20:45
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Openbotprincefakhan hi20:46
Openbotno fukin clue20:46
princefakhanhi openbot. thanks. but u took way too much time answering. :p20:47
Openbotprincefakhan? ?20:48
princefakhanI mean if u look up a lil bit u would know people already told me that20:49
Openbotsixwheeledbeast is there any engine that is lightweight and usable on maemo20:49
princefakhanI even made a joke. :)20:49
sixwheeledbeastDon't look at me20:50
Openbotprincefakhan lol i logged after i saw u20:50
princefakhanopenbot I figured20:50
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princefakhananyway. what does ~something means20:51
Openbotsixwheeledbeast. .. look at them lool at em how they are looking at me ... eyes are skiking out like honey on bees ... comes to mind :p20:51
Openbotthet are irc commands or bot actions princefakhan20:52
Openbot~kill princefakhan20:53
* infobot shoots a magneto-ionized anti-photon gun at princefakhan20:53
infobotprincefakhan: thanks20:53
Openbotregister with freenode @ princefakhan20:54
princefakhanoh come on openbot and infobot. I just started irc. lool20:54
sixwheeledbeastprincefakhan: there is an infobot, a perl script that listens to the channel and can provide information.20:55
Openbotme noob too20:55
sixwheeledbeastinfobot is a bot, Openbot is not. Don't get confused....20:55
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Openbot~wiki flashing20:56
infobotAt (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{wiktionary|flashing}} 'Flashing' may refer to: {{TOC right}} *Flashing (technology), overwriting an EEPROM module in a device **BIOS flashing, overwriting a BIOS image *Flashing (cinematography), a technique that desaturates the color so that one sees more in shadowed areas *Flash evaporation, causing evaporation by lowering a fluid's pressure below its vapour pressure *Flashing ...20:56
sixwheeledbeast~weather EDDN20:56
infobotNuernberg, Germany; (EDDN) 49-30N 011-03E 318M; last updated: 2015.04.27 1750 UTC; Dew Point: 51 F (11 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.53 in. Hg (1000 hPa); Relative Humidity: 67%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Temperature: 62 F (17 C); Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Wind: from the N (010 degrees) at 7 MPH (6 KT) (direction variable)20:56
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Sicelo~weather mbabane20:56
infobotI can't find station code "MBABANE" (see or for ICAO locations codes).20:56
sixwheeledbeastsome examples...20:56
* Sicelo shoots infobot20:56
sixwheeledbeast~slap Sicelo20:57
* infobot slaps Sicelo, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!20:57
princefakhanah I see. well I knew openbot is human.20:57
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Sicelo~weather fdms20:57
infobotManzini / Matsapa Airport, Swaziland; (FDMS) 26-32S 031-18E; last updated: 2015.04.27 1500 UTC; Dew Point: 62 F (17 C); Relative Humidity: 77%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Weather: 69 F (21 C); Wind: from the WNW (300 degrees) at 12 MPH (10 KT)20:57
princefakhandidn't know about infobot until he said thanks when I gave him something to eat. lol20:57
princefakhananyway thanks for clearing it up20:58
Openboti am openbot and i am not a bot20:58
Sicelowhatever FDMS stands for20:58
sixwheeledbeastthe wonders of a script, lol20:58
sixwheeledbeastSicelo there airport codes20:58
princefakhanyeah. he sounds pretty human20:59
Openbot..../help princefakhan without dots20:59
princefakhanoh lol! someone is helping me without any dots. it is all very confusing texts here. :p21:01
Openbot./msg nickserv register password youremail@.com21:02
Openbotusual chills and thrills i had in the past21:03
Openbotwith reg you can enjoy reg only channels21:04
princefakhanhaha. though I think commands do not work on webchat.freenode.net21:04
Openbotok c u later21:05
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princefakhanThanks for the info. I have already registered.21:05
princefakhanOK. bye21:05
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princefakhanah! just ran into this problem again. thought I should ask.21:08
princefakhanmany times when I connect a charger to my phone it res21:09
princefakhan*reads it as a USB device. and asks me to select a mode.21:09
princefakhanand then it doesn't go away unless I restart the device.21:10
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Openbothappens with me too at times i gnore it21:12
Openbotis it a problem21:12
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Openbotprincefakhan are u on thumb21:13
princefakhanahh! I am also using Advance power monitor. I don't remember if this happened before21:13
princefakhanwelcome back openbot. yeah I m on thumb.21:14
Vajbprincefakhan: i solved this by first connecting charger to phone and after that to mains21:14
Openbotog charger21:14
Openbotvajb humm21:15
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princefakhanVajb please elaborate21:15
Vajbalso if u have usbmode installed u can re-enebale peripheral mode and it resets that usb question21:16
Vajbprincefakhan: answered ur charger recogniced as computer problem21:16
princefakhanI uninstalled usbmode thinking it could be a culprit too.21:16
princefakhannah! what did u mean by "connected to mains"21:17
Vajbalso if u have bnf installed u can check if it thinks wall charger is present or not21:17
Vajbmeaning pluging ur chager to wall socket21:18
Vajbi heard that problem is caused by partial connection of usb cable21:19
Vajbwhich is result of not plugging in cable perfectly alligned with phone21:20
princefakhanyeah I think my USB is faulty. I am not able to charge my phone properly these days.21:22
Vajbmaybe my trick works21:23
Vajbor u tried that way already?21:23
Vajbhave u filed down those small hooks in usb cable?21:24
Vajbif not u should21:24
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princefakhanwell ur trick didnt work for me. :(21:24
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Vajbit sounds to me that r usb socket is coming loose21:25
princefakhanfiled down?21:25
princefakhanexactly. it loose21:26
Vajbyes there r two small hooks in cable connector. File them down with small metal file21:26
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Vajbprobably damage is already done, but that will prevent further damages21:27
Vajbi heard that someone teared whole port off with charger cable21:27
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princefakhanwell those are all fine. I have many connectors. it is no doubt my device's USB socket21:28
princefakhanummm. so I have to open up my device to do that. don't I21:30
sixwheeledbeastprincefakhan: possibly an issue with your uUSB port.21:31
infobotit has been said that usbfix is - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater), or, you will basically need two irons: a small good one (or better hot-air reflow) and a 60+ Watt21:32
princefakhanthanks for the link. it was fine. started d happening this month only. I was too careless I guess.21:33
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Vajbi have been extra carefull with my port21:36
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princefakhanVajb well I haven't21:47
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princefakhanone more thing guys. the led blinks even when u r using the device, doesn't it? mine is not blinking.21:49
princefakhani mean using it while charging.21:52
princefakhanand what does short rapid yellow blink means21:54
ecc3gmine doesn't blink when using... though I did not enable the "enable LED when on" checkbox...22:03
Vajbmine either. Only when screen is locked and it's charging.22:04
princefakhanwell I don't see "enable LED when on" anywhere but I have checked all LED notifications in Settings.22:06
ecc3g"device on" that is... mine is unchecked,  this might be the "breathing light" on older nokias...22:06
princefakhanmine is checked. what should I expect since my USB port is effed up?22:08
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princefakhanI believe rapid short blinking happens sometime cuz the cable keeps connecting and disconnecting from the usb port.22:09
princefakhanI also recieve the "The device is using more power than actually recieving. blah blah" prompt.22:10
ecc3gdont know, never had it checked, I suspect if the usb is unplugged, it will blink the LED when the device is on (versus shutdown)22:12
ecc3git took me a long time to find microusb cables and chargers that are functional enough to actually charge...22:13
princefakhanthat is when the device is locked.22:14
princefakhanAnd the led blinks in locked case only when you have checked "device on" in "Notification lightt" in Settings.22:15
princefakhanI don't suppose there is any blinking if you are doing stuff while charging the device.22:16
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