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* Sicelo wonders what has changed now in work Wi-Fi network .. seems PSM is borked :(09:45
KotCzarnycould be some interference09:45
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Siceloi suspect misconfigurtion of the Cisco APs. the problem is consistent, and been this way for at least two weeks now. i am positive it's not my N900 because PSM still works fine when I'm at home.09:58
KotCzarnycisco doesnt care about psm09:58
KotCzarnythey make security equipment10:00
KotCzarnynot best in mobile10:00
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Sicelopsm has nothing to do with mobile KotCzarny. it's just a wireless feature. and cisco routers have all that's needed to support it just fine. at lest that's what i understand about psm10:02
KotCzarnyas i understand psm my introduce lags10:04
KotCzarnymaybe someone was unhappy and turned it off10:05
Siceloyes, agreed10:05
freemangordonKotCzarny: you have (had?) some problems with the autobuilder?10:05
Sicelobut that person would have to be hanged, lol. all you need to do is fix the client for that, not the AP10:05
KotCzarnyfreemangordon: mostly user induced, feedback from the possible errors would be very helpful during initial learning the system10:06
freemangordonso autobuilder works fine?10:07
KotCzarnyapart from being unintuitive10:07
KotCzarnyand debugging possible failuires requires human help10:08
KotCzarnywhy don't you just email the errors to the maintainer of the package?10:08
KotCzarnyoh, and btw. when i create a project it doesnt auto assign me as a maintainer10:08
freemangordonno idea why nokia decided it that way10:08
KotCzarnythat could be considered a bug10:08
freemangordoncreate a project?10:09
KotCzarnyon garage10:09
KotCzarnyi mean10:09
freemangordonthat is unrelated10:09
KotCzarnyi created oscp project10:09
KotCzarnythen i want to upp it to ectras-devel10:09
freemangordonbtw I have no idea who is the garage maintainer10:09
KotCzarnyit's my project so why isn't it auto assigned to me?10:09
KotCzarnyno no, in garage it's still fine10:10
KotCzarnybut when i upload to extras-devel it doesnt autoassigns it to me10:10
freemangordonKotCzarny: if you use extras web interface, it will assign you10:10
KotCzarnydoes extras web interface allow non-free packages?10:11
* freemangordon checks10:11
freemangordonhmm, no10:12
freemangordonwasn't aware10:12
KotCzarnyanyway, it should autoassign the maintainer through scp too10:12
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freemangordonI guess it uses .dsc or .changes file for that10:13
freemangordonanyway, I am back to the broken facebook API10:14
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bencoh09:12 < KotCzarny> anyway, it should autoassign the maintainer through scp too11:46
bencohhmm, it doesnt, even for -free packages ?11:46
KotCzarnydont know about free ones11:55
KotCzarnyso, changing topic, my dictionary skill is failing, how do i search for adapter from headphone out to line in?11:57
KotCzarnyciting kerio: impedance something something11:57
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Vajbline in as in amplifiers?12:08
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Vajb3.5mm jack to rca12:08
KotCzarnyno, see the impedance something something part12:08
KotCzarnyi definitely get better sound out of pc soundcard than n800's12:09
Vajbi never gave any thought to impedance12:09
Vajbdo u use same line in for n800 and pc soundcard?12:09
KotCzarnyswitch them for testing12:10
Vajbprobably same audio file too12:10
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VajbSicelo: is there a way to prevent udhcpc to get new ip? Because it seems that it always gets new ip and therefore disconnects my gprs.12:17
KotCzarnyconnect manually12:17
Vajbcan i tell udhcpc which ip to use?12:17
KotCzarnythat question is ambigious12:18
KotCzarnyand not the correct one i think12:18
Vajbdunno what ambigious means :)12:18
KotCzarnyhas more than one meaning12:18
KotCzarnymy guess is that when interface connects, new instance of udhcpc is spawn12:19
KotCzarnyso one would have to connect to gprs manually (without dbus and stuff)12:20
Vajbbut what if gprs is already connected?12:21
KotCzarnythat's why i always hated networkmanager12:21
Vajbthats's the line from Sicelo's script "udhcpc -i wlan0 -h N900-Linux"12:21
KotCzarnythat depends on the script that made it connected12:21
Siceloif you don't want udhcpc, don't call it from the script. comment out that section, and then set a static IP for your wlan0 interface. wpa_supplicant will leave ip stuff alone12:21
KotCzarnydont use udhcpc for wlan012:22
KotCzarnyjust set static12:22
Sicelotbh, i still don't quite understand why you're doing this in the first place, but still a nice opportunity to learn some networking12:23
bencohVajb: getting a (new) ip on wlan0 shouldnt "disconnect" gprs12:24
KotCzarnyhe wants to have cellular internet all the time and be able to use local wifi sometimes12:24
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bencohyour real issue here is probably the fact that you get a default route12:24
Vajbjust occasionally to use scp via wifi without disturbing already open gprs connection :)12:24
Sicelojust i noticed that he has internet on the wifi ... that's why this baffles me12:25
KotCzarnymaybe he gets in and out of wifi coverage12:25
KotCzarnyor wants power saving12:25
Vajbi can't scp to my phone via gprs thats why i need wifi12:26
SiceloVajb: your wifi already has internet, right? if you're connected to it, you can both browse/whatsapp, as well as scp locally12:27
Sicelobut yes, ymmv12:27
Vajbyep, but it's just that minor inconvenience of lost connection on irssi when i change from gprs to wlan12:29
KotCzarnysetup ircbouncer12:30
Vajbmaybe im just stupid or fussy or whatever :)12:30
Vajbsometimes point of doing something isn't the act itself, but the fact one can do it :)12:30
Vajbok what if i change my resolv.conf to
KotCzarnyyou will fail12:32
KotCzarnyit's the ip of dns resolver12:32
Vajblol what a suprise12:32
SiceloVajb: just don't call udhcpc and you'll be fine12:33
KotCzarnyif you really want to make it static use google's dns resolver (
KotCzarnyor opendns12:33
Vajbbut there is ip address in resolv.conf and it is different than resolv.conf.gprs12:34
KotCzarnysystem only uses resolv.conf12:34
Sicelothat came from udchpc12:34
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Sicelomaemo's /etc/resolv.conf is generally best left alone, pointing to dnsmasq takes care of the rest12:35
KotCzarnyi use opendns12:35
KotCzarnyand pdnsd12:35
Vajboh there is another12:35
Vajbi was talking about /var/run/resolv.conf12:36
KotCzarnysystem uses /etc/resolv.conf12:36
Siceloyes Vajb, that comes from udhcpc ... when you don't call udhcpc, that resolv file will not be there12:36
KotCzarnybut dnsmasq can be patched to look for those /var/run/ confs12:37
KotCzarnyhavent checked if it's the case12:37
Vajbso should /var/run/resolv.conf be same as /etc/resolv.conf?12:37
KotCzarnywhat do you want ?12:38
Vajbah, but u already know that :D12:38
KotCzarnyi dont know how 'intelligent' is dnsmasq on n90012:39
Siceloyou don't need the one in /var/run. you also probably don't need to adjust the one in /etc either12:39
* Vajb has a feeling that all this will end to reflash sooner or later12:39
KotCzarnyyou are doing backups of the files you change?12:39
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Vajbactually didn't change anything. Just speculated12:40
Sicelothe scp you do ... you use IP addresses, i suppose, or you have a full-blown dns server on your local network?12:40
Vajbi use ip12:40
Siceloso you don't need any other resolv.conf files. leave them all alone12:40
Vajband wifi router choose wich ip to give for my device12:41
Sicelooh no, lol.. so you do need udhcpc, or can you tell the router to give your N900 a static IP? usually you need to give it MAC address12:41
KotCzarnyhe can setup wifi manually12:42
KotCzarnywithout any udhcpc12:42
KotCzarnyall he needs is to note what network it's assigning12:42
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Vajbthere is maybe six devices which use that router12:42
KotCzarny(ie. the ip he has on wifi interface)12:42
Sicelowifi is manual already .. via wpa_supplicant. the issue now is ip addressing. but yeah, i guess i don't like too much hacks12:44
KotCzarnyno, wpa_supplicant doesnt assign ip12:44
Siceloof course it does'nt12:44
KotCzarnyhe is using ip or ifconfig to set it (or udhcpcd)12:44
zGrrmoin :)12:45
Siceloi think i've said that lota of times now12:45
KotCzarnyhi zgrr12:47
Vajbonce i did that route del and add stuff it worked, but problem is it's needing it always12:47
Vajband also when it needs it it's disconnecting gprs12:47
KotCzarnysicelo: he is learning basics of networking, so all in all he is gaining from the experiment12:47
KotCzarnyvajb: it's needed because udhcpcd mangles routes12:48
SiceloVajb: add the route del command in your connect script?12:49
Vajbi did it!12:50
Sicelodoesn't run?12:50
Vajbi got wlan connected and i didn't disconnect here, right12:50
KotCzarnyjust dont run udhcpcd for wifi12:51
Vajbno no udhcpc12:51
Vajbjust ifconfig wlan0 ip i want12:51
Siceloi just hope Vajb hasn't also learned that udchpc has a problem lol. <<10:47 < KotCzarny> sicelo: he is learning basics of networking, so all in all he is gaining from the experiment10:47 < KotCzarny> sicelo: he is learning basics of networking, so all in all he is gaining from the experiment>>12:52
Sicelothat would mean we've taught the wrong lesson12:52
zGrrehlo KotCzarny12:53
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KotCzarnyudhcpcd doesn't have a problem, it's just the way system is set up12:53
Vajbhehe it's not about how much we learn, but how much we remember tomorrow12:53
KotCzarnyif you write a script and comment it inside, you're good12:54
Vajbyes i have scripts modified now12:57
Vajbgetting things work the way i want (no matter how strange) makes me happy :)13:04
bencohVajb: what does /etc/network/interfaces say ?13:09
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bencohoh and, regarding dnsmasq/resolv.conf and /var/run, see /etc/dnsmasq.conf, you can safely add/remove /var/run/resolv.conf, maemo shouldnt write there, and dnsmasq will use it13:10
Vajbbencoh: i suppose it's at stock state. I didn't touch it.13:14
Vajball files in /var/run are listed in /etc/dnsmasq.conf13:16
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totalizatorthere used to be Application Download Statistics but it's not working anymore; is there a way to access the data?15:48
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KotCzarnyi think it's 'not official'15:58
KotCzarnyand times out when trying to access some resource15:59
KotCzarnycould be because of some html rewrite16:00
totalizatorit's just broken, yes16:02
merlin1991statistics are broken, nobody managed to revive them yet16:07
KotCzarnyi can16:11
KotCzarnyand also i can add builder/uploader emailer16:11
KotCzarny(while i'm at it)16:11
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totalizatorthat would be great16:16
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KotCzarnyhuh, what did i miss?16:21
KotCzarnyso, any chance of fixing it?16:22
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KotCzarnyi offer my help with fixing it16:34
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Vajbhmm i guess something broke after all. Now email client and opera can't connect to internet.16:56
KotCzarnymost likely dns resolver16:56
KotCzarnytry ping from terminal16:56
Vajbseems like it's not getting any answer16:57
KotCzarnywant a quickfix or good fix?16:57
Vajb"bad adress"16:58
KotCzarnyright, that means your resolver is broken16:58
KotCzarnyie. not set16:58
KotCzarnywhat do you have in /etc/resolv.conf ?16:58
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KotCzarnywhat do you have in /etc/resolv.conf17:02
KotCzarnyso it's set for dnsmasq17:02
KotCzarnyls  /var/run/resolv.conf*17:02
Vajband it seems that it was my gprs strangely17:02
Vajbbecause when i started irssi again it couldn't connect17:03
KotCzarnyno, it doesnt matter17:03
Vajband now when i connected gprs again it works17:03
KotCzarnyto connect you have working dns resolver17:03
KotCzarnyit reset /var/run/ files17:03
KotCzarnyif you want a fix follow me17:03
KotCzarnyif not, say it so17:04
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Vajbwait i'll run ls var stuff17:04
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Vajbls /var/run/resolv.conf*17:05
Vajb/var/run/resolv.conf       /var/run/resolv.conf.gprs17:05
KotCzarnycat /var/run/resolv.conf17:06
Vajb cat /var/run/resolv.conf17:06
KotCzarnyis that your wifi router?17:07
Vajbtoday i used .2 but otherwise same17:08
Siceloyes, it is. remember his routing table yesterday ;)17:09
KotCzarnyi'm thinking how to easily setup his dns17:09
Vajblet my try to understand my problem first17:10
KotCzarnyfor a quickie: echo "nameserver" > /var/run/resolv.conf17:10
KotCzarnyto connect you have 2 things17:10
KotCzarny1/ working internet connection17:10
KotCzarny2/ set up dns resolver server17:10
KotCzarny1 was working17:11
KotCzarny2 is to be able to translate into ip17:11
KotCzarnythats why irc worked, but didnt reconnect17:11
KotCzarnyif you do the line i pasted, it will setup dnsmasq to try opendns servers17:12
Sicelodon't you want to have him just remove that resolv.conf? resolv.conf.gprs is all he will need. but whatever you prefer17:12
KotCzarnyit will break system17:12
Vajbso irssi, yappari and facebook chat stayed connected because they were connected at the first place, but device couldn't make new connection for opera and email because of what i did earlier?17:12
KotCzarnyvajb: you could have connect to irc if you used /connect etc17:13
KotCzarnyto /connect irc.some.server17:13
KotCzarnyyou need set up dns resolver17:13
KotCzarnythat will translate irc.some.server into17:13
KotCzarnyso, ping would work17:13
KotCzarnybut ping not17:14
Siceloi think i'm not good at explaining ... system will *not* break with the absence of /var/run/resolv.conf. this file recreates itself on every successful connection (much like maemo's /etc/fstab)17:14
KotCzarnysicelo, ahm, i thought you have suggeste3d removing /etc/resolv.conf17:14
Sicelofor connections established from connection UI, the created file is /var/run/resolv.conf.if_name, e.g. resolv.conf.wlan017:15
Vajb:D im somewhat confused17:16
Vajblet me get this straight17:16
SiceloVajb: ignore me, haha. i'm drunk17:16
Vajbim having everything working now. If i run my scripts to use scp everything which is connected stay connected, but new connections are not possible. And if i remove /var/run/resolv.conf it'll fix it, but file will be recreated at some point. Was it even close?17:18
VajbSicelo: haha drunken experiments r the best coz u never know if u can remeber to reverse what u did before passing out17:19
KotCzarnyvajb: nope, it's not the problem17:19
KotCzarnydnsmasq reads all resolv.conf* files and contacts those dns servers17:19
KotCzarnymy guess is that /var/run/resolv.conf is static/generic one17:20
SiceloKotCzarny: i think we must see those scripts, what do you say? (i think there's still a udhcpc in them ..)17:20
Vajbthen what if i put same stuff in resolv.conf than resolv.conf.gprs? Hmm i think i asked that already17:20
KotCzarnyand .something are used next depending on the route17:20
KotCzarnyvajb: no, no need to duplicate17:21
KotCzarnyput the line i gave you17:21
KotCzarnyecho "nameserver" > /var/run/resolv.conf17:21
KotCzarnythen for a test do: mv /var/run/resolv.conv.* /17:22
KotCzarnythen try: ping google.com17:22
KotCzarnywe will see if that file is working17:22
KotCzarnydnsmasq could be caching those files17:25
KotCzarnyjust removed all of them for test17:25
KotCzarnyso something reloads dnsmasq on connect/disconnect17:25
Vajbonly difference was different ip for ping reply17:26
KotCzarnyanyway, if you put the line i gave you you will have 'static' dns server along others17:27
SiceloKotCzarny: upstart17:27
KotCzarnyvajb: you can use instead of
KotCzarny208.  one is opendns17:27
KotCzarny8. is google17:27
KotCzarnyopendns generally works ok, sometimes it returns bogus results for inexistent domains17:28
Vajbi c. Does it have any flaws compared to original?17:29
SiceloVajb: i would like to see your connect script if that's alright with you :)17:29
Vajbother than that i mean17:29
Vajbok Sicelo17:30
KotCzarnyvajb: unless google or opendns go bandit way, no17:30
Vajbi'll paste it in parts17:30
Vajbmodprobe wl12xx17:31
Vajbecho "Shutting down Wireless daemon"17:31
Vajbstop wlancond17:31
KotCzarnyvajb: ?17:31
Vajbecho "Setting up the WNIC"17:31
Vajbifconfig wlan0 up17:31
Vajbiwconfig wlan0 power saving 417:31
Vajbhmm neat idea lol17:31
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Vajbannoying problem17:35
Vajbwhen im on pastebin edit mode it fills my screen and i can't get back from there17:35
Vajbin opera on device17:35
KotCzarnyuse microb ?17:36
KotCzarnyor go back into windowed mode17:36
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Vajbdisconnect script is17:41
Vajbifconfig wlan0 down17:41
Vajbsleep 217:41
Vajbkillall wpa_supplicant17:41
Vajbsleep 217:41
Vajbmodprobe -r wl12xx17:41
Vajbwell now that i think of it i could have deleted those useless lines, but i was lazy and just commented them out17:43
Siceloi think you must delete the /var/run/resolv.conf then .... shouldn't come back again as far as i can tell17:43
Sicelothe `iwconfig wlan0 power saving 417:43
KotCzarnysicelo, having opendns or google dns there wouldnt break anything17:44
KotCzarnyand can be helpful for his situation17:44
Vajbactually iwconfig line is the line it whines that command is not found17:44
KotCzarnywill serve as a always available server17:45
Sicelothe `iwconfig wlan0 power saving 4` might slow things down ... if so, experiment with lower numbers, or even remove it completely. just that the wifi chip will deplete battery fast without17:45
Siceloyou can install that Vajb (if you feel you need it)17:45
Vajbwlan is on only few minutes to one hour so i guess it doesn't matter17:46
* Sicelo connects for 8 hours with wpa_supplicant, so without that line it gets really bad17:48
Vajbmostly i need scp when i have added new album or audiobook to laptop and wanna listen on go17:48
KotCzarnyadd nfs to your network17:48
Vajbradiostreaming through gprs is another story for battery drainage17:49
KotCzarnyvajb, might i interest you in my player? (oscp)17:49
Vajbnfs=need for speed, but i guess not :p17:49
KotCzarnynfs=network file systenm17:49
Vajbi have special need on there too17:50
Vajbi use mplayer for streaming17:50
* Sicelo uses mplayer too.. but17:51
Vajband i use 60mb cache to be able to pause broadcast for lunch break etc17:51
Siceloah, i was about to ask why not the built-in media player17:51
KotCzarnyvajb: ahm, i might add setting cache in config17:52
Vajbyes that's the reason. I was asking of setting cache for open media player17:52
Vajbcan ur player also dumpstream?17:52
Vajbbecause i need that too17:53
Vajbhmm actually possibility to listen growing files would remove my need for big cache17:53
Vajblisten and rewind that is17:54
KotCzarnyvajb, if i add such option, yes17:54
KotCzarnynever tried what would happen17:54
Vajbwanna try?17:55
KotCzarnyright now i'm preparing packages for n8x0 and n900 (added some other feature)17:55
KotCzarnymight try after that17:56
Vajbtry dumping stream via mplayer and listening it to ur player and try to rewind past startup point17:56
Vajbmplayer can rewind till that and then it claims it reached end of file17:56
timelessanyone here familiar w/ ddwrt?18:01
* timeless is trying to set it up and is only halfway through the headaches18:01
KotCzarnywhats the problem?18:01
Vajbnot me for sure18:01
KotCzarnyrun it, connect wia www interface18:01
KotCzarnyclick click, done18:01
timelessi installed mini18:02
timelessbut i need voip18:02
KotCzarnycheck for wiki recipes18:02
timelessand their web site(s) are totally incomprehensible18:02
KotCzarnytry openwrt's one18:02
KotCzarnyshould be at least similar18:02
timelessddwrt definitely has it in theory18:02
timelessI'm running DD-WRT v24-sp2 (05/27/13) mini (SVN revision 21676)18:02
timelessclaims i want k2.6 VOIP18:03
timelessbut unless i'm missing somehting, i can't figure out where that *is*18:03
timelessplease say i'm missing something obvious:)18:03
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timelessmaybe i should just try openwrt18:05
VajbSicelo: just to let u know. Removing /var/run/resolv.conf seems to have worked problem. Just tried wlan on and off and everything seemed to work before and after.18:06
timelessKotCzarny: doesn't list e120018:06
timelesswhich isn't particularly reassuring18:06
timeless isn't reassuring either18:07
timeless*sigh*, such a pain...18:16
timelessworked around by adding a stun server18:16
VajbKotCzarny: btw about nfs. At one point i tried to share folder in windows vista, but after spending some fruitless hours on it. I decided that scp to device is just so much easier for me :)18:17
timelessVajb: yeah. nfs is never the right answer :)18:17
bencohtimeless: I guess you were looking for ?18:17
bencoh(merged in mainline as nf_nat_sip)18:18
bencoh(and nf_conntrack_sip)18:18
timelessbencoh: i can't understand that entry18:19
bencohtimeless: basically what you need on a linux router/nat to make SIP work18:19
timelessthere's something called18:19
timelessMilkfish SIP Router18:20
timelessi was expecting to try to get my router to run that18:20
timelessbecause that's the only thing google turned up18:20
timelessn.b. i don't want a particular solution,  i just want things to work18:20
bencohseriously I'd try netfilter nat/conntrack before proxying/rerouting SIP and RTP18:20
timelessbencoh: that article vaguely implies i probably need unencrypted sip18:21
timelessideally (but probably not in reality), my sip should be encrypted :)18:21
bencohtimeless: correct18:21
timelessanyway, a stun server isn't a big pain18:21
bencohotherwise you wouldnt be able to fetch the RTP addr/port in the INVITE18:21
timelessit's just "yet another annoying step"18:21
KotCzarnyi have no problem using nfs18:25
KotCzarnyeven with windows18:25
KotCzarnythough its harder, but doable18:25
timelesssmb/sftp/afs all seem like better choices than nfs18:27
* timeless wonders if anyone recognizes afs18:27
bencohandrew, or apple ?18:28
timelessalthough there is apparently a fuse client for the latter called afpfs-ng18:30
KotCzarnytimeless: not being supported by openwrt could mean it castrated much18:30
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timelessKotCzarny: that doesn't sound great :)18:31
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Luke-JrI think my external battery thing does not like doing both input and output concurrently :|20:33
KotCzarnyconnect it directly instead of internal battery?20:33
KotCzarnyie. all li-ion drivers are compatible (though some battery packs are able to be charged with higher current and some not)20:36
KotCzarnyi mean, people connect 2 bl-5j20:39
KotCzarnyso it's not that charging circuit is picky20:39
KotCzarnyso if you want big pack, be the one and connect it to n900!20:40
Luke-Jrreason I got external was so I can keep using it when I replace N90020:42
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KotCzarnybut it would be interesting how big battery pack can be driven by n90020:43
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Luke-JrI *am* considering disassembling it..20:46
Luke-Jrfreaking high pitch noise20:46
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VajbLuke-Jr: i was wondering if that noise comes from transformer which is badly lacked. Dunno if it can be redone somehow...21:18
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KotCzarnyvajb: oscp happily plays mp3 that is still downloaded21:19
KotCzarnyand can rwnd/ffwd it21:19
Luke-JrVajb: it definitely comes from the external unit in my case21:20
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VajbLuke-Jr: i remember hearing something about "rebaking" noisy transformers in the oven, but better google it first than to trust me21:21
Sicelohaha. sounds like simplest way to make a bomb and kill yourself21:22
KotCzarnyif you manage to soften glue without softening soldering medium..21:22
KotCzarnybut his device most likely is noise because of lack of caps21:22
KotCzarnybut yes, it can be also loose transformer wire21:23
VajbKotCzarny: let me give u an example. File is downloaded 50mb when i start to play it. I start playing it through mplayer and it shows 50min. I can rewind till i reach 50min and then it says end of file even tho file has grown to lets say 120min while i was listening.21:24
Sicelobaking it won't melt the insulation on the strands of wire? i think you would end up with a massive short-circuit21:24
KotCzarnyvajb: if you try to ffwd more than its downloaded, decoder hits end of file21:24
KotCzarnybut as long you dont do that, it plays21:25
Vajbso ur player knows to rewind past that 50min mark instantly without restarting playback?21:25
KotCzarnyand you can later ffwd past the earlier end point21:25
KotCzarnyno, my player doesnt know the filesize21:25
Vajbhmm sounds bit like mplayer behaviour then21:25
KotCzarnyso it can rwnd/ffwd as much as i want21:25
KotCzarnybut if the time bar is not right, only +/-15s is implemented21:26
KotCzarny(but enough to quickly move through file21:26
Vajbit's not matter of file at the moment, but file size when i choose to play21:26
KotCzarnyvajb: my player just plays if there is data to decode21:26
KotCzarnydoesn't care what decoder says about totaltime/size21:26
Vajbok. In mplayer i can forward 1min interwals by pressing up arrow and 10s interwals by pressing right arrow21:27
Vajbhmm then it seems bit smarter than mplayer21:27
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Vajboh yeah one big thing is also that pulseaudiothingy. With mplayer it seems to be quite powerhungry21:29
Vajbi launch mplayer with -ao pulse setting21:29
KotCzarnyit's n900 'feature'21:29
KotCzarnyunless you play through headphones/lineout, you SHOULD play through pulseaudio21:30
KotCzarnybut if you don't use internal speakers you can use alsa as audio output21:30
Vajbim using headphones while i work21:31
KotCzarnypity they didn't opt for hardware filterfor internal speakers21:31
KotCzarnyk, i can prepare alsa version just for you, if you want21:31
KotCzarnybut remember that playing without pulseaudio filter can and will damage internal speakers21:31
KotCzarnydesign fail21:32
KotCzarnyat nokia21:32
Vajbso if i accidentally unplug my headphones it will explode my speakers21:32
KotCzarnynot instantly21:32
KotCzarnybut it's a bit as driving speakers with too powerful amp21:33
KotCzarnythey will break, sooner or later21:33
Vajbthat just makes me wonder how come nokia didn't add self destruct button :p21:33
KotCzarnythey did21:33
KotCzarnynokia is no more21:33
KotCzarnyif you havent noticed21:33
Vajbtheir phone department was egologic enough. Dissolved itself21:34
KotCzarnynokia is now b0rgassimilated21:34
Vajbwould have been cool productname21:35
Vajbbut about ur player. What about dumpstream?21:35
KotCzarnyvajb: haven't implemented because wasn't on features i needed21:36
KotCzarnymight add to todo21:36
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Vajbactually doesn't matter since i would have to keep two instances open anyway. One for dumping and other for playing the dumb21:37
Vajbso i guess it wont make a difference (power consumption in mind) if it's mplayer and urs or two times urs. I guess...21:38
KotCzarnywell, stream saving doesnt use pulseaudio, right?21:39
KotCzarnybtw. you can use mplayer with alsa output too21:39
KotCzarny-ao alsa21:39
KotCzarnybut remember my warning21:39
Vajbyes i know, but i thought that pulse is only solution with n90021:40
Vajbis also supported by default or i need some extra packages?21:40
Vajbalsa also21:41
KotCzarnyby default21:41
KotCzarnypulseaudio uses alsa as backend21:41
Vajbhmm will try that nextime21:41
KotCzarnyjust adds some system glue and filter21:41
Vajbjust to see difference21:41
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KotCzarnybut, first try if pulse audio eats cpu when you have headphones connected21:42
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Vajbbut i guess 4h of dumbing and listening will still need some charging :)21:42
Vajbno 5 hours21:42
KotCzarnyyup, constant wifi activity, even without playing21:42
Vajbgprs ;)21:42
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KotCzarnystill, constant activity21:44
SiceloVajb: 3G? or 2G?21:44
Vajb3g or 3.5g21:45
Luke-JrKotCzarny: there's a filter patch for the kernel, but it was removed from power kernel because it affected headphones too :/21:45
Sicelook. haha. my next question would have been the bitrate of youur stream21:45
Vajbpulse didn't show up with just phones plugged21:45
Vajbthey don't send better i guess or that's just what mplayer chooses21:46
KotCzarnymplayer chooses first stream in a playlist, then next after error etc21:47
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Sicelodo we have an epub reader for maemo which can highlight/annotate/comment/etc.?22:07
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Vajbi tried several readers, but didn't like any of them22:20
KotCzarnyvajb: coolreader rocks (at least on android)22:21
Vajbnvm i switched to audio books22:21
Vajbmobipocket reader was kinda good22:21
Vajbback in e90 days22:21
Vajbit seems that atm i don't have any reader installed22:22
VajbSicelo: if u know reader wich can do what u want, but file is wrong format u can also try calibre and convert it to anything u want22:23
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Sicelofor maemo i use dorian. seems minimal enough for my needs. but i miss highlighting22:24
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Vajbwhat about fbreader?22:31
Sicelofound it to be a bit bloated, and slow22:37
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Siceloit's good for pc22:38
KotCzarnycoolreader3 ftw!22:38
Siceloandroid specific? or is it available for pc too?22:39
Siceloi see.. QT.. maybe i should try build that in SB22:40
Siceloum, no source?22:42
KotCzarnypity, maybe we should ask the author to make a maemo package22:46
KotCzarnyit should be fairly easy for him22:46
KotCzarnyCoolReader 3.X is free open-source (GPL) multiplatform version under active development.22:47
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Siceloi didn't see anywhere to download source. is there a link?22:49
KotCzarnythis one maybe?22:50
Siceloah, sourceforege. just found. thx22:50
KotCzarnyor this one22:50
KotCzarnyok, nite nite22:51
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