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| lopx | got n900 is this the right place :P? hello everyone | 00:41 |
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| bencoh | hello, yup :) | 00:41 |
| lopx | swell, going to lurn around then | 00:41 |
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| stryngs | hi lopx | 01:31 |
| lopx | hi | 01:36 |
| stryngs | So, you are new to the n900 world? | 01:38 |
| drathir | welcome... | 01:39 |
| stryngs | What is your intent with the n900 lopx ? | 01:44 |
| stryngs | I ask because if you want to hack with it, I recommend a differrent path than cssu =) | 01:44 |
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| MonkeyofDoom | is there any way to prevent maemo from switching to speakers when headphones get unplugged? | 02:11 |
| Humpelst1lzchen | MonkeyofDoom: there is an app which does pause immediately | 02:12 |
| MonkeyofDoom | I have a slightly flaky headphone jack and I'd prefer if it just ignored jack-sense entirely | 02:14 |
| MonkeyofDoom | what's the app called? | 02:15 |
| totalizator | http://maemo.org/packages/view/headphoned/ | 02:16 |
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| lopx | hi yeah and I use wifi lol | 02:31 |
| lopx | sorry I afkd | 02:31 |
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| stryngs | No worries lopx | 02:35 |
| stryngs | So whats your intentions with the n900?? | 02:36 |
| lopx | toy around | 02:36 |
| lopx | ;p | 02:36 |
| lopx | I'm having hard time flashing it though | 02:37 |
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| lopx | windows nor linux is recognizing the usb | 02:37 |
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| stryngs | ouch | 02:45 |
| stryngs | That sucks | 02:45 |
| lopx | yeah having problems with my chronos watch too rofl | 02:46 |
| lopx | hence afk :p | 02:46 |
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| totalizator | ) | 02:50 |
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| KotCzarny | huh, different switches, different compile failures | 08:16 |
| KotCzarny | fun | 08:16 |
| Vajb | MonkeyofDoom: open media player can pause also when head phones get unplugged. So no need for extra program if u use that. | 08:17 |
| KotCzarny | or just use and extender and some glue | 08:18 |
| KotCzarny | *an | 08:18 |
| Vajb | well someone like swiss knife and someone toolboxes :) | 08:20 |
| KotCzarny | most problems have more than one resolve | 08:20 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 08:20 |
| KotCzarny | unless it's m$ windows | 08:21 |
| KotCzarny | then it's just works or not | 08:21 |
| Vajb | yes thats why i like linux | 08:21 |
| Vajb | and mosly if something fails linux tells me why. Ms just gives bunch of numbers | 08:22 |
| KotCzarny | not entirely true, but yes, linux console and logs are easier to access | 08:22 |
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| KotCzarny | sometimes i treat compiling stuff as a game | 09:07 |
| KotCzarny | adventure game | 09:07 |
| KotCzarny | trying every possible weird combination till something works | 09:07 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | MonkeyofDoom: OMP can be set to pause on headset removal. | 10:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | oh Vajb already said that, sorry. | 10:01 |
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| KotCzarny | vajb: http://i.imgur.com/FonRU8X.jpg?1 | 11:00 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 11:00 |
| Vajb | KotCzarny: exactly my point :) | 11:02 |
| KotCzarny | i like the 'was that information helpful?' part | 11:02 |
| Vajb | yeah | 11:02 |
| Vajb | it's like they act like they care and change nothing | 11:03 |
| Vajb | dunno if outlook could be ran through dosprompt and see if it gave any error | 11:04 |
| KotCzarny | eventlog, most likely | 11:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | meh, windoze. | 11:04 |
| KotCzarny | but information there is still consfusing | 11:04 |
| KotCzarny | usually some binary bytes | 11:04 |
| KotCzarny | sixwheeledbeast: meh, still trying to compile gcc 4.9.2 | 11:05 |
| KotCzarny | but looks like this time it could be successful | 11:05 |
| KotCzarny | compiling for 2h now | 11:05 |
| KotCzarny | earlier it was bailing out in ~1h | 11:05 |
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| KotCzarny | drat. | 11:20 |
| sixwheeledbeast | BAIL | 11:21 |
| KotCzarny | yeah | 11:21 |
| KotCzarny | 142 minutes, configure: error: unsupported system, cannot find sizeof (omp_lock_t) | 11:22 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: on device ? | 11:23 |
| KotCzarny | sb | 11:23 |
| KotCzarny | compiling gcc on device would be.. | 11:24 |
| KotCzarny | slow | 11:24 |
| bencoh | yeah ... but I think some here tried :p | 11:24 |
| bencoh | are you building a crossgcc or "native" gcc ? | 11:24 |
| KotCzarny | "native" | 11:25 |
| KotCzarny | in armel target | 11:25 |
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| bencoh | uh, using it will be slow :) | 11:25 |
| KotCzarny | so i can later tar.gz and move to device | 11:25 |
| bencoh | oh | 11:26 |
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| kolp | hm, my n900 seems to be silentyl dropping incoming sms sometimes from some people. has anyone seen this? | 12:09 |
| kolp | it's not the garbled event database thing | 12:10 |
| KotCzarny | did you install some call blocker? | 12:10 |
| kolp | no | 12:10 |
| KotCzarny | maybe your cell provider sucks? | 12:10 |
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| kolp | that is a possibility as well, but I doubt it | 12:10 |
| KotCzarny | does it drop random or just from specific device? | 12:11 |
| kolp | the remote devices are at least apple and samsung, I think | 12:12 |
| kolp | and it's just from 3 people (as far as I know...) | 12:12 |
| kolp | and some txts get through | 12:13 |
| KotCzarny | sms have message validity time | 12:14 |
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| KotCzarny | but i guess you aren't disconnecting for 1-7 days | 12:15 |
| kolp | correct :) | 12:15 |
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| Sicelo | flash sms perhaps? | 12:27 |
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| KotCzarny | hmm, is sound output from n800 limited in any way? | 12:31 |
| KotCzarny | i have to turn the volume up on my stereo | 12:31 |
| kolp | Sicelo: no, normal sms | 12:36 |
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| kerio | something something impedence | 12:37 |
| KotCzarny | kerio: hum? | 12:37 |
| Sicelo | output impendance of N800 not matched to input impendance of your stereo ... that how i understand him :) | 12:40 |
| KotCzarny | but most other devices with headphone socket qork just fine | 12:41 |
| KotCzarny | *work | 12:41 |
| Sicelo | unrelated question: in c, when you #include a header file, how do you know all the possible functions includes, and their syntax? | 12:46 |
| KotCzarny | you dont | 12:47 |
| KotCzarny | it's only to help compiler to check the syntax | 12:47 |
| KotCzarny | and prepare params etc | 12:47 |
| kerio | Sicelo: by reading the documentation | 12:47 |
| KotCzarny | linker glues all the objects with compiled functions | 12:47 |
| Sicelo | what documentation kerio :) that's what i want | 12:48 |
| kerio | i dunno, what do you want to use? | 12:48 |
| KotCzarny | what headers then | 12:48 |
| KotCzarny | try man sprintf etc | 12:48 |
| Sicelo | ah, thanks KotCzarny. looks ike that's what i needed :) | 12:49 |
| KotCzarny | also google works too | 12:49 |
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| Vajb | kolp: i've noticed that sometimes normal sms got treated as mms by n900. I guess that is because of some smileys. | 12:54 |
| sixwheeledbeast | kolp: That maybe a symptom of corrupt db file. | 12:54 |
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| KotCzarny | how one corrupts sms db? | 12:55 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I have also had the odd issue above | 12:55 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el.db | 12:59 |
| sixwheeledbeast | to clarify I have had Vajb's issue above, normally nessages from iOS IIRC. | 13:00 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: prototypes arent here "just to help" ;) | 13:01 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh: i know, just simplified | 13:01 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 13:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I believe it's sqlite if want to try to open it and rescue parts of it. | 13:02 |
| bencoh | just a "lil" bit ;) | 13:02 |
| KotCzarny | a bit ;) | 13:02 |
| kolp | Vajb: I haven't had this yet | 13:02 |
| kolp | sixwheeledbeast: possibly. though it's weird that it's limited to these 3 people's sms. I've now inserted a new sim (same number) but will replace the events db next if the new sim doesn't change anything | 13:04 |
| KotCzarny | kolp, might be that it's just display problem | 13:05 |
| KotCzarny | and sim won't help as sms' are stored in phone db | 13:06 |
| kolp | what do you mean, display problem? the messages are not in the events db and I receive no notification through the phone anyway. so it's either the provider, the sim or the modem (or the related software) | 13:07 |
| KotCzarny | open it with some sqlite explorer | 13:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | well you can rule it out by backing up db to some else MyDocs or uSD, then rm and touch the db file. Get the 3 people to send messages. If not the issue restore db, reboot. | 13:08 |
| KotCzarny | check for oddities | 13:08 |
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| KotCzarny | checking for the value of EOF... configure: error: computing EOF failed | 13:45 |
| KotCzarny | o.o | 13:45 |
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| KotCzarny | why the heck it tries to use system binutils | 13:47 |
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| bencoh | because 1. you didnt tell it where to find binutils 2. you're not building a cross but a native compiler ? (just guessing) | 13:53 |
| KotCzarny | i did | 13:53 |
| KotCzarny | explicitely and by PATH | 13:53 |
| KotCzarny | but my guess it's scratchbox uses some cheating when one calls tools | 13:54 |
| bencoh | hm, that too | 13:54 |
| Sicelo | +1 .. i know that problem does exist for perl-dependent applications in SB | 13:56 |
| KotCzarny | not respecting PATH sucks | 13:56 |
| KotCzarny | and they do it on glibc level, because running in bash4 doesn't change anything | 13:57 |
| bencoh | LD_PRELOAD ? | 13:58 |
| KotCzarny | echo $LD_PRELOAD | 13:58 |
| KotCzarny | /scratchbox/tools/lib/libsb.so.0 | 13:58 |
| KotCzarny | yeah | 13:58 |
| KotCzarny | nice tip | 13:59 |
| KotCzarny | gotta try without | 13:59 |
| bencoh | I think hell's gonna break loose :) | 13:59 |
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| KotCzarny | we will see | 13:59 |
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| bencoh | I'd rather build a cross-canadian | 13:59 |
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| KotCzarny | i want native gcc on n900 | 14:00 |
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| bencoh | a cross-canadian build would build on x86 (sb) a cross gcc running on arm for arm targets | 14:00 |
| bencoh | and ... actually you dont need sb for that :) | 14:01 |
| KotCzarny | why nobody compiled gcc-4.9.2 for fremantle then? | 14:01 |
| bencoh | I think that's your best option | 14:01 |
| KotCzarny | actually unsetting LD_PRELOAD looks like it's going on | 14:02 |
| KotCzarny | or just goes slower | 14:02 |
| bencoh | slower I think | 14:02 |
| KotCzarny | and didnt reach the error point yet | 14:02 |
| bencoh | it probably uses arm binaries instead of sb "native" tools | 14:02 |
| KotCzarny | and that's good imo | 14:03 |
| bencoh | (which means running in qemu) | 14:03 |
| KotCzarny | exactly what i wanted it to do | 14:03 |
| bencoh | what do you need 4.9.2 for ? | 14:04 |
| KotCzarny | nah, same error, i might restart whole compilation sinca start | 14:04 |
| KotCzarny | bencoh: arm optimizations | 14:04 |
| bencoh | are those significantly better than in 4.7 ? | 14:05 |
| KotCzarny | is 4.7 stable? | 14:05 |
| bencoh | there is a 4.7 toolchain around, used for thumb | 14:05 |
| KotCzarny | also, where to grab it | 14:05 |
| KotCzarny | nah, no thumb here | 14:05 |
| KotCzarny | stock fremantle | 14:06 |
| bencoh | http://wiki.maemo.org/CSSU-thumb_toolchain_setup_(gcc4.7.2-linaro) | 14:06 |
| bencoh | should work without thumb as well | 14:06 |
| bencoh | but you'd still need stdc++ from 4.7.2 | 14:06 |
| KotCzarny | no worries, it's small enough | 14:06 |
| bencoh | (same goes for 4.9 anyway ... C++ ""ABI"", STL, bleh) | 14:07 |
| bencoh | oh, that's a cross, not a native compiler for on-device compilation | 14:07 |
| KotCzarny | k, time to change strategy | 14:20 |
| KotCzarny | no bootstrap now | 14:20 |
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| KotCzarny | checking for gets declaration... configure: error: Could not determine word size. | 15:57 |
| KotCzarny | hehe | 15:57 |
| KotCzarny | maybe i shall try 4.8 or 4.7 first | 16:01 |
| bencoh | building on x86_64 ? | 16:03 |
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| KotCzarny | nope | 16:03 |
| KotCzarny | good ol' 32bit | 16:03 |
| KotCzarny | pity i don't have few more n900's | 16:03 |
| KotCzarny | i would've just compile on device with -j8 | 16:04 |
| bencoh | what for ? distcc ? :D | 16:04 |
| KotCzarny | and distcc | 16:04 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 16:04 |
| bencoh | I'd just crossbuild ... :p | 16:04 |
| KotCzarny | remember 'i want newer gcc on device' argument? | 16:04 |
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| bencoh | yeah, and my cross-canadian idea should still work ;) | 16:06 |
| KotCzarny | :) | 16:06 |
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| lopx | hi | 18:45 |
| Sicelo | hi lopx | 18:48 |
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| KotCzarny | hmm | 19:42 |
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| Sicelo | i have this application which keeps a log on linux. i want to be able to 'react' to a particular event as soon as it happens. what would you suggest here :) | 20:57 |
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| KotCzarny | hmm | 21:02 |
| KotCzarny | glue on the bottom of my laptop smears itself from the whole day of compiling | 21:02 |
| KotCzarny | (from the wifi mac label) | 21:02 |
| Sicelo | guess this is the 'poor man's way' | 21:04 |
| Sicelo | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4331309/shellscript-to-monitor-a-log-file-if-keyword-triggers-then-execute-a-command | 21:04 |
| KotCzarny | did i miss something? | 21:09 |
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| belloccio | rai_way | 21:15 |
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| KotCzarny | o.o | 21:18 |
| KotCzarny | gcc 4.7.4 compiled | 21:18 |
| KotCzarny | yaaay | 21:18 |
| Elleo | .32 | 21:22 |
| Elleo | oops | 21:23 |
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