| Katajakasa | I installed debian on an external SDHC without X. Lots of RAM available :P Just systemd, cron, wpa_supplicant and sshd running | 00:03 |
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| Katajakasa | Time to go get sleep :P | 00:18 |
| Katajakasa | ShadowJK: Thanks for help! | 00:18 |
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| M4rtinK | nice, just computed route from the end of the world (Finis Terra in Spain) to Wien on the N900 :) | 00:51 |
| M4rtinK | took 24 seconds, but still - fully offline & the route looks sensible :) | 00:52 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: that's great news | 00:56 |
| M4rtinK | well, it probably worked always like this | 00:57 |
| M4rtinK | just haven't actually tested offline routing on such a big dataset :) | 00:57 |
| M4rtinK | the Europe one is 6.6 GB :) | 00:57 |
| M4rtinK | and the only reason it even fits on the FAT32 formatted MyDocs is that it made of multiple files | 01:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 01:20 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Anyone using noip.com DDNS: https://www.noip.com/blog/2014/06/30/ips-formal-statement-microsoft-takedown/ | 01:22 |
| M4rtinK | A coworker got hit by this today :) | 01:25 |
| M4rtinK | I think in the corporate circles this practice is called "Building the brand image." :) | 01:25 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: thanks for your post on TMO. A bit more information on the tracklogs issue. I have been on two walks of about 2 hours, both tracklogs stop after about 4 minutes. the tracklog window still shows it's working fine with elapsed time and average speed. | 01:30 |
| M4rtinK | are there any files in the folder with the .temporary_csv_1 or .temporary_csv_2 extension ? | 01:34 |
| M4rtinK | (modRana actually appends to two csv files during logging and only converts them to GPX once logging is stopped) | 01:35 |
| M4rtinK | (for performance and data protection reasons) | 01:35 |
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| chem|st | tmo back up and patched - xes tweaked the mysql config so if you find something faster than before, thank him! | 01:39 |
| M4rtinK | chem|st: thanks! :) | 01:39 |
| M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: looks like I'm getting it too | 01:40 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: in 'MyDocs/tracklogs/logs' I only have the .gpx files. | 01:40 |
| chem|st | sixwheeledbeast: w00t? basterds | 01:40 |
| chem|st | yes I have noip ddns... | 01:40 |
| M4rtinK | well, technically... | 01:40 |
| M4rtinK | ..had | 01:41 |
| sixwheeledbeast | lol | 01:41 |
| M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: looks like I was able to reproduce the issue | 01:41 |
| sixwheeledbeast | M4rtinK: oh, good it's not just me :) | 01:42 |
| M4rtinK | its actually easy to spot - just start logging and then do ls -la *temporary* | 01:42 |
| M4rtinK | in the logs folder | 01:42 |
| M4rtinK | you will see two of those temporary files and they stop growing after about two minutes in my case | 01:42 |
| M4rtinK | even though modRana reports no errors and you can see it report the periodic saving | 01:43 |
| M4rtinK | oh, now I see it :D | 01:44 |
| M4rtinK | Traceback (most recent call last): | 01:44 |
| M4rtinK | File "/opt/modrana/modules/mod_cron.py", line 85, in _doTimeout | 01:44 |
| M4rtinK | if callback(*args) == False: | 01:44 |
| M4rtinK | File "/opt/modrana/modules/mod_tracklog.py", line 251, in _updateLogCB | 01:44 |
| M4rtinK | if geo.distanceApprox(lat, lon, lat1, lon1) * 1000 >= DONT_ADD_TO_TRACE_THRESHOLD: | 01:44 |
| M4rtinK | File "/opt/modrana/core/geo.py", line 163, in distanceApprox | 01:44 |
| M4rtinK | return acos(sin(lat1) * sin(lat2) + cos(lat1) * cos(lat2) * cos(lon1 - lon2)) * EARTH_RADIUS | 01:44 |
| M4rtinK | ValueError: math domain error | 01:44 |
| M4rtinK | oops, sorry, for flooding | 01:44 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I have a .modrana/cache/tracklog_cache.txt that seems to have lots of co-ord's in but that's all I can find tracklog wise. | 01:45 |
| M4rtinK | sixwheeledbeast: that's unrelated - thats the cache file modRana uses to cache "known" GPX files so that they load faster if you click on them again | 01:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ah, ok | 01:47 |
| M4rtinK | but I think I have most probably found the root cause, as seen above | 01:47 |
| M4rtinK | most probably division by zero or something similar | 01:47 |
| M4rtinK | caused either by faulty logic or some garbage masquerading as valid GPS coordinates | 01:48 |
| sixwheeledbeast | np | 01:49 |
| * sixwheeledbeast yawns | 01:50 | |
| sixwheeledbeast | o/ gn | 01:50 |
| M4rtinK | so thanks for reporting the issue & helping :) | 01:50 |
| M4rtinK | good night! :) | 01:50 |
| sixwheeledbeast | np anytime | 01:50 |
| M4rtinK | will have to investigate a bit more but hopefully should be easy to fix :) | 01:50 |
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| M4rtinK | BTW | 01:52 |
| M4rtinK | http://modrana.org/images/routing/monav_offline_finis_terra_to_wienna.png | 01:52 |
| M4rtinK | :) | 01:52 |
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| Snafu777 | Happy Early Independence Day America: americathemovie.com | 16:26 |
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| Sicelo | Snafu777: ping | 18:22 |
| Snafu777 | Hi | 18:25 |
| * Snafu777 likes a good pinging | 18:25 | |
| Snafu777 | It's like flogging but cleaner | 18:26 |
| Sicelo | hehe | 18:26 |
| Snafu777 | So whats up | 18:26 |
| Sicelo | just wanted to find out if you pursued the easy-deb & x over network thing you tried about 2 days ago.. | 18:26 |
| Snafu777 | Ah | 18:27 |
| Sicelo | :D | 18:27 |
| Snafu777 | I tried over windows, but had issues with two things: My lack of knowledge -and- I believe firewall issues | 18:27 |
| Snafu777 | So, I want to try in linux, but haven't had the time yet | 18:27 |
| Sicelo | i'm on linux. not working either. and definitely no firewall :( | 18:27 |
| Snafu777 | Ah | 18:27 |
| Snafu777 | And yer familiar with ssh -X type things? | 18:27 |
| Snafu777 | X11 forwarding I should say rather | 18:28 |
| * Snafu777 has forwarded over X once before | 18:28 | |
| Sicelo | yes. i wanted to try without ssh however | 18:28 |
| Snafu777 | I did it just to try it out and understand the concept | 18:28 |
| Snafu777 | See without SSH, just go VNC | 18:28 |
| Snafu777 | but it will be god awful on the rendering | 18:28 |
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| Snafu777 | I figure ssh x11 forwarding would be smoothr | 18:28 |
| Snafu777 | And "more" secure | 18:28 |
| Sicelo | i have never liked vnc :P | 18:28 |
| Sicelo | i'll keep trying with x alone (on my LAN) .. i'm sure there's another explanation/solution | 18:29 |
| Snafu777 | I'm guessing it's maemo | 18:29 |
| Snafu777 | and how fragmented the damn OS is | 18:29 |
| Snafu777 | Oooooo, Lets mount / on a 256mb NAND chip. Let's give 30 gigs to a vfat and 2gigs to a ext3 | 18:30 |
| Snafu777 | Thats inelligent | 18:30 |
| bencoh | Sicelo: magic cookies/xauth | 18:30 |
| Snafu777 | We'll make the people suffer by having to optimize stuff | 18:30 |
| bencoh | and some X11 conf | 18:30 |
| Sicelo | bencoh: xhost .. added my N900 ip there | 18:30 |
| bencoh | (why would you wanna do that btw ??) | 18:31 |
| Snafu777 | See, i didn't have to do any hardcore configuration with my X11 forwarding experiment | 18:31 |
| Snafu777 | In Mint it just worked | 18:31 |
| Sicelo | yes, the first time i asked myself the same question bencoh .. then again, proof-of-concept, i guess | 18:31 |
| kerio | Snafu777: hey, we gotta have audio at boot time | 18:47 |
| kerio | otherwise people won't be able to hear the sound to the mr hands video | 18:47 |
| kerio | brand recognition yo | 18:47 |
| Snafu777 | Audio at boot time? | 18:47 |
| Snafu777 | Mr hands? | 18:47 |
| Snafu777 | I deleted mr hands | 18:47 |
| Snafu777 | Evil | 18:47 |
| Snafu777 | That was from NAMBLA's website | 18:47 |
| kerio | one of the few reasons we can't move /usr to a separate partition is that the system needs pulseaudio to bootan | 18:47 |
| kerio | *boot | 18:47 |
| Snafu777 | Some old man grabbing a youngsters hand | 18:47 |
| Snafu777 | Oh | 18:48 |
| Snafu777 | I see | 18:48 |
| kerio | and pulseaudio is installed in /usr | 18:48 |
| * Snafu777 shuts up and listens to kerio | 18:48 | |
| kerio | no, mr hands was the dude who died after having sex with a horse | 18:48 |
| kerio | by extension, the nokia boot-time video with the shaking hands | 18:48 |
| kerio | fucking our filesystem in the ass | 18:48 |
| kerio | i really, really, REALLY don't get why the fuck they didn't compile the emmc modules in the kernel | 18:49 |
| kerio | so we could mount /usr early | 18:49 |
| Snafu777 | Here is a question kerio | 18:49 |
| Snafu777 | With the knowledge in this channel | 18:49 |
| Snafu777 | Could "the community" not create a 4th release of the OS? | 18:49 |
| kerio | we can hardly find maintainers for cssu | 18:49 |
| Snafu777 | p4 or whatever | 18:50 |
| kerio | let alone something like that | 18:50 |
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| kerio | also, nemo mobile is what you're looking for, i think | 18:50 |
| Snafu777 | nemo mobile? | 18:50 |
| kerio | or maybe Mer | 18:51 |
| kerio | i never understood | 18:51 |
| Snafu777 | I just wish it was all one partition | 18:52 |
| Snafu777 | screw the 256mb NAND | 18:52 |
| Snafu777 | or several partitions on the 32gb chip | 18:52 |
| kerio | laggy | 18:52 |
| Snafu777 | just not / on one chip and the rest on the other | 18:52 |
| kerio | ~m32g | 18:52 |
| Snafu777 | U think so? | 18:52 |
| kerio | mh | 18:52 |
| kerio | what was the link | 18:52 |
| kerio | yeah, i'm fairly sure | 18:52 |
| Snafu777 | Granted, I know crap about this type of stuff | 18:52 |
| kerio | the emmc is noticeably slower than the nand | 18:53 |
| Snafu777 | I just hate the concept of optimization with a passion | 18:53 |
| kerio | there's some scripts made by pali to install the system on the emmc | 18:53 |
| kerio | giving you pretty much all the space you want | 18:53 |
| Snafu777 | I just did bind mounts to make space | 18:53 |
| kerio | yeah, it works | 18:53 |
| Snafu777 | created /home/rootfs_bind | 18:53 |
| kerio | i made so much space that i could even disable the compression on nand | 18:54 |
| Snafu777 | copied essential stuff to it, and bind mount to it | 18:54 |
| Snafu777 | etc... | 18:54 |
| kerio | which makes things go even faster | 18:54 |
| kerio | the thing is | 18:54 |
| kerio | the n900 is bottlenecked both by cpu and by IO | 18:54 |
| Snafu777 | See I could care less about iphone type speeds | 18:55 |
| Snafu777 | I'm fine with 600mHz that I overclock to 1.1ghz | 18:55 |
| Snafu777 | I just want consistency with other *nix platforms | 18:55 |
| kerio | i should probably overclock my n900 tbh | 18:55 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Why do we need a fourth release (PR1.4)? CSSU has had multiple releases? | 18:55 |
| kerio | it won't last much longer anyway | 18:55 |
| Snafu777 | I run mine at 850 and it runs greate | 18:55 |
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| Snafu777 | Because not all of us use CSSU sixwheeledbeast | 18:55 |
| Snafu777 | I'm one of the ones who don't | 18:56 |
| kerio | Snafu777: oh, btw | 18:56 |
| kerio | use cssu | 18:56 |
| Snafu777 | because it breaks to tools I use | 18:56 |
| Snafu777 | pentest stff | 18:56 |
| Snafu777 | stuff | 18:56 |
| kerio | so... you're overclocking and you don't even have cssu-thumb installed | 18:56 |
| Snafu777 | nope | 18:56 |
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| kerio | gj | 18:56 |
| Snafu777 | Hell, I can walk you through my steps, I keep them onine =) | 18:57 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Well Nokia has abandoned Maemo so the only updates will be Community ones | 18:57 |
| kerio | ~pr14 | 18:57 |
| kerio | ~pr1.4 | 18:57 |
| infobot | PR1.4 has always been a ban'able subject | 18:57 |
| kerio | ~botsnack | 18:57 |
| infobot | :), kerio | 18:57 |
| kerio | so cute ^_^ | 18:57 |
| Snafu777 | configitnow.com/pwnphone/DIRECTIONS | 18:57 |
| bencoh | :] | 18:57 |
| Snafu777 | configitnow.com/pwnphone/pwnphone_img_v4.0.tar.lzma | 18:58 |
| Snafu777 | configitnow.com/pwnphone/stock_images.tar.lzma | 18:58 |
| dos1 | Snafu777: how does it break the tools? isn't just fixing it better idea than being stuck without updates? :P | 18:58 |
| Snafu777 | That's how I do it kerio | 18:58 |
| Snafu777 | I manage my own updates? | 18:58 |
| sixwheeledbeast | :) CSSU is not meant to break anything, well Stable definitely isn't. | 18:58 |
| Snafu777 | Keep my own repos =) | 18:58 |
| Katajakasa | Meh, install Gentoo! :P | 18:58 |
| kerio | oh so you've upgraded openssl by yourself? | 18:58 |
| Katajakasa | And paint a couple of white stripes on your device | 18:58 |
| Snafu777 | I haven't had a need to upgrade openssl on it | 18:59 |
| kerio | Katajakasa: you're a fucking noob | 18:59 |
| Snafu777 | I pentest with the phone, i don't browse to https with it, nor run a server | 18:59 |
| kerio | everyone knows that RED stripes make it go faster | 18:59 |
| Snafu777 | I could have openssl 0.1 on it and be thrilled | 18:59 |
| bencoh | red car, says the monkey ! | 18:59 |
| dos1 | Snafu777: duplicating efforts? why for? | 18:59 |
| Snafu777 | What i care about are pentest tools, hping, aircrack, metasploit, etc... | 18:59 |
| dos1 | every tool you mention should work on cssu | 19:00 |
| dos1 | if it doesn't, it's a bug | 19:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | :nod: | 19:00 |
| Snafu777 | They don't work with the scripts prior written | 19:00 |
| dos1 | and bugs should be fixed | 19:00 |
| Snafu777 | And I don't want to re-write the scripts | 19:00 |
| dos1 | and published, so anyone can benefit | 19:00 |
| Katajakasa | kerio: hah, fool! white stripes obviously reflect light away from the device so that the cpu can reach light speed easier | 19:01 |
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| Snafu777 | While it is true that I should go with CSSU (Can't argue) | 19:01 |
| Snafu777 | I don't because last time I did, everything that I was accustomed to, broke. | 19:01 |
| bencoh | hm... | 19:01 |
| Snafu777 | I'd also have to figure out where and at what point in the upgrade to flip the bind mounts | 19:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Well anything that "broke" should be repoted and fixed. | 19:02 |
| Snafu777 | Having to run the optimize thingie on a deb is not fun | 19:02 |
| Snafu777 | But nobody in CSSU cares about hacking tools | 19:02 |
| dos1 | especially if it's cssu-stable | 19:02 |
| Snafu777 | CSSU is more for people who actually use the phone for smartphone purposes | 19:02 |
| Snafu777 | At least from the responses I had last time I brought it up | 19:02 |
| bencoh | hm, no ?() | 19:02 |
| Snafu777 | Not from what I could tell | 19:02 |
| Snafu777 | I'd love to help out | 19:02 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I can't imagine anything that would break from CSSU Stable upgrade. | 19:02 |
| Snafu777 | I use some neat stuff with my n900 | 19:02 |
| Snafu777 | I guess I could try it again | 19:03 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I disagree CSSU Stable is for everyone.... | 19:03 |
| Snafu777 | Let me ask this then, if I go CSSU stable, does packet injection come standard or do I have to jump a rainbow to make it happen? | 19:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | packet injection isn't in PR1.3 | 19:04 |
| Snafu777 | But it is if you use the power kernel | 19:04 |
| bencoh | I dont see why cssu would break it | 19:04 |
| bencoh | as long as you keep using power kernel | 19:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | well CSSU doesn't effect the kernel | 19:05 |
| Snafu777 | Specifically I use kernel-power_2.6.28-maemo46-wl1_armel.deb because anything newer than that seems to act FUNKY with airbase-ng | 19:05 |
| Snafu777 | dropped clients | 19:05 |
| Snafu777 | Multiple reassociations for NO reason | 19:05 |
| Snafu777 | etc.. | 19:05 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I have CSSU Stable and KP no problem. I don't use packet injection. | 19:05 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Snafu777: you should report those issues to Pali aka KP maintainer. | 19:06 |
| sixwheeledbeast | KP is an extras package after all not a CSSU system package | 19:06 |
| Snafu777 | How about the system asking the user to type in a password when pressing an icon that launched a script requiring root | 19:07 |
| dos1 | for cssu-thumb, you actually even *have to* use kernel-power | 19:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | If you install CSSU-thumb then KP will be upgraded to the latest, due to depending on errata workaround. | 19:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | :nod: dos1 beat me :P | 19:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Snafu777: have you password protected root? | 19:11 |
| Snafu777 | of course | 19:12 |
| Snafu777 | installing openssh makes u change the pword | 19:12 |
| Snafu777 | set one rather | 19:12 |
| sixwheeledbeast | so if you open a terminal and type root you have to enter a password? | 19:12 |
| Snafu777 | oh | 19:12 |
| Snafu777 | no | 19:12 |
| sixwheeledbeast | well CSSU shouldn't play with either. | 19:13 |
| Snafu777 | but if i ssh into the n900, i must type password for root | 19:13 |
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| Snafu777 | After having read about CSSU thumb it seems I'm missing out on some "real" performace. Does it really make her performt hat much better? | 19:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Yes it's a lot snappier due to less memory being used. However you can't use thumb if you want to keep KP46. | 19:19 |
| Snafu777 | I know that | 19:20 |
| Snafu777 | I'm curious as to see if the newest KP will drop clients | 19:20 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | maybe bm your setup and try. If you have issues you'll have to reflash, install kp46 and restore bm | 19:28 |
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| bencoh | sixwheeledbeast: do you have figures regarding thumb vs nonthumb ? | 19:29 |
| sixwheeledbeast | or maybe kp's changelogs has some notes on bugfixes | 19:29 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | bencoh: no, fmg is the man to ask re thumb | 19:30 |
| bencoh | freemangordon: do you have figures regarding thumb vs nonthumb ? :) | 19:30 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~cssu-thumb | 19:31 |
| infobot | hmm... cssu-thumb is <Doc_Scrutinizer05> [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively, or http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220597, or http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb | 19:31 |
| bencoh | so ... 30% ? | 19:32 |
| bencoh | "With packages that are so far in CSSU-thumb repository, the code size is reduced by approximately 35MiB" well much less then | 19:33 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I imagine it will be reduced a little more than that now | 19:35 |
| sixwheeledbeast | hmm, My Location hasn't been working for a while, I wonder why. I have a A-GPS fix...mmm | 19:39 |
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| freemangordon | bencoh: it is a bit relative, as code size is reduced by 30-40 % for thumb vs non, but not everything is thumb-compiled. also, keep in mind that most system libs (read - most of the time in RAM) are thumb-compiled, so the end effect is bigger than one may think by just looking at those 35MiB | 20:33 |
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| * ecc2g looks for another n900 to try thumb on ... | 20:48 | |
| Snafu777 | kerio: Are you there? | 20:50 |
| kerio | no | 20:50 |
| Snafu777 | too bad | 20:50 |
| Snafu777 | When do you think you will be back, eh? | 20:50 |
| Snafu777 | =) | 20:50 |
| Snafu777 | Yer cssu saavy | 20:50 |
| Snafu777 | So here is a question | 20:51 |
| Snafu777 | Let me pull up my work for a sec so i can speak from text | 20:51 |
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| Snafu777 | http://pastebin.com/v5gauwkr | 20:52 |
| Snafu777 | If I wanted to be able to use that technique, could it be done with cssu? | 20:52 |
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