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| Luke-Jr | how can I use WPA2 from CLI (so I don't interrupt GPRS)? | 00:44 |
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| freemangordon | Luke-Jr: you want to have both wifi and gprs up? | 00:46 |
| Luke-Jr | freemangordon: yes | 00:47 |
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| freemangordon | hmm, I am not exactly person to help you, but what about iwconfig? | 00:47 |
| freemangordon | just an idea | 00:47 |
| Luke-Jr | yeah, that's what I'm hoping for..but iwconfig is the furthest thing from easy to use | 00:48 |
| Luke-Jr | and I can only barely get on IRC right now; webpages are hopeless | 00:48 |
| freemangordon | Luke-Jr: hmm, maybe you could download qtmobilehotspot source and read through the magic id does | 00:49 |
| freemangordon | I suspect there are dbus calls to bting the interfaces | 00:49 |
| freemangordon | *bring | 00:49 |
| freemangordon | up that is | 00:49 |
| freemangordon | wtf is with my typing today ?!? | 00:50 |
| freemangordon | Luke-Jr: what about http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_dbus#com.nokia.icd2 ? | 00:52 |
| freemangordon | esp #define ICD_DBUS_API_CONNECT_REQ "connect_req" | 00:52 |
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| Luke-Jr | I wish I could open links | 00:55 |
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| freemangordon | ooh | 00:56 |
| freemangordon | sorry, can't help further, I have the same problem with iwconfig as yours :) | 00:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, seems route is the first thing to think about, eh? | 01:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | but honestly why not just use mobilehotspot? | 02:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you still can fite a matching set of route configs after starting it | 02:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fire* | 02:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | prolly pointless monologues since he left, eh? | 02:03 |
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| b-p | wow. maemo lives XD i love it! hello all | 03:47 |
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| b-p | help me pls :D im new in n900 maemo and want to install "silverlight", moonlight, mono, i dont know | 03:49 |
| b-p | it is possible? | 03:49 |
| bef0rd | I remember mono being available, but it's probably an outdated version now | 03:51 |
| b-p | and can you tell me the correct package name? cause apt-cache search mono replies with 218 packages :) | 03:52 |
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| bef0rd | I suppose http://maemo.org/packages/view/mono-complete/ | 03:55 |
| bef0rd | seems to be an outdated version as I mentioned early | 03:55 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 11:54 |
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| freemangordon | ~bm | 14:36 |
| infobot | i heard backupmenu is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 | 14:36 |
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| Lava_Croft | Hello | 15:50 |
| Lava_Croft | Has the problem concerning N900 not detecting it's own headphones been solved yet? | 15:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | err | 16:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, clean the springs | 16:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tzz, 26 mnutes. Sometimes lag is longer | 16:32 |
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| yangs | hello | 17:42 |
| yangs | hello | 17:43 |
| yangs | is there anone? | 17:44 |
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| silviof | yes yangs we are here - but you have to wait for answers ^^ | 18:11 |
| freemangordon | but before that... ask a question? | 18:14 |
| bennis | 'mplayer -vo xv:ck-method=auto -dr -ao alsa -nocache -autosync 30' is this most optimized setting for playing video with mplayer? | 18:20 |
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| silviof | :-) | 18:32 |
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| erlehmann | how can i have GNU unifont on n900? i made symbols http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/pics/icons/unifont-symbols-emoji.png | 20:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | how would you do it on linux? ;-) | 20:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (sorry, no clue here about all that font stuff) | 20:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | my take on fints ends where "shell can do UTF-8 now" | 20:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fonts even | 20:51 |
| erlehmann | DocScrutinizer05 copy font to $home/.fonts and run "fc-cache -fv" | 21:05 |
| freemangordon | erlehmann: did you try that on n900? | 21:06 |
| erlehmann | freemangordon nope, i did not. | 21:07 |
| erlehmann | i thought maemo might have font facilities on its own. | 21:07 |
| freemangordon | hildon-theme-recache-all might be the right tool | 21:07 |
| freemangordon | though I am not sure if it will pick up a font from ~/.fonts | 21:08 |
| freemangordon | rather put it in /usr/share/fonts | 21:08 |
| freemangordon | (or wherever the fonts are located) | 21:09 |
| freemangordon | hmm, wait | 21:09 |
| freemangordon | there is fc-cache | 21:10 |
| freemangordon | NFC what it does though :) | 21:10 |
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| erlehmann | wat | 21:24 |
| freemangordon | erlehmann: hmm? | 21:25 |
| erlehmann | freemangordon NFC? | 21:25 |
| freemangordon | ~nfc | 21:25 |
| infobot | methinks nfc is No Fucking Clue, or near field communications | 21:25 |
| erlehmann | what does NFC have to do with fonts | 21:25 |
| erlehmann | oh | 21:25 |
| erlehmann | i see | 21:25 |
| erlehmann | no near file comm | 21:26 |
| erlehmann | field | 21:26 |
| freemangordon | sure :) | 21:26 |
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| hxka | > hildon-application-manager: apt-worker performance improvements | 21:58 |
| hxka | is speedyham in the -thumb repo now& | 21:59 |
| freemangordon | yep | 21:59 |
| hxka | Niiiiiice | 21:59 |
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| freemangordon | hxka: and on a side note - libc6 is thumb-compiled :) | 21:59 |
| hxka | Niiiiiice | 22:01 |
| hxka | Why 2013? | 22:01 |
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| freemangordon | a typo | 22:02 |
| freemangordon | if you mean 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo9.1+thumb0 | 22:02 |
| freemangordon | (the previous version) | 22:02 |
| hxka | >Timezone information as of 2013 | 22:02 |
| freemangordon | oh | 22:02 |
| freemangordon | read that as (by the end of 2013) :) | 22:03 |
| hxka | Ah, then it's fine | 22:03 |
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| wizbit_ | if one uses swap on a sd card on n900 / maemo, does one still keep the swap active on the internal storage, or does one set it to a lower prioritu or does one disable it? | 22:10 |
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| freemangordon | wizbit: it is safe (and sane IMO) to disable internal swap if using swap on uSD | 22:10 |
| wizbit | ace :D | 22:11 |
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| wizbit | freemangordon: im going to follow this guide: http://wiki.maemo.org/Swap_on_microSD | 22:12 |
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| wizbit | 'It's propably best to dedicate the whole microSD card for swap, if possible.' | 22:16 |
| wizbit | :( | 22:16 |
| ShadowJK | Marginally true with very shit cards | 22:16 |
| ShadowJK | Not really relevant if you only use it for media storage | 22:16 |
| wizbit | ace | 22:16 |
| wizbit | this sounds interesting too http://wiki.maemo.org/Ereswap | 22:18 |
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| wizbit | http://wiki.maemo.org/Flopswap | 22:22 |
| wizbit | i will set up 2x swaps on the uSD | 22:23 |
| * RST38h moos slightly | 22:23 | |
| wizbit | 'This moves the swap space to the device so the back cover can be removed.' | 22:24 |
| RST38h | Doc: hw:0 is this: http://assets.vice.com/content-images/contentimage/151990/Screen-Shot-20f14-05-01-at-1-22-20-PM.jpg | 22:24 |
| wizbit | cool | 22:24 |
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| hxka | > 2x swaps on the uSD | 22:28 |
| hxka | Why? | 22:28 |
| wizbit | you can use a app like Flopswap to defrag the swaps | 22:32 |
| wizbit | but that requires 2x swaps | 22:32 |
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| hxka | I don't really believe that between swap allocation and writing to flash the bottleneck is allocation | 22:36 |
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| hxka | Plus, you'll waste a lot of time and flash cycles reswapping | 22:38 |
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| hxka | Oh, I finally got it, the problem is not in allocation but in ftl | 22:44 |
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| hxka | If only it was possible to move all that garbage from one swap to another slowly, without slowing n900 to a halt | 22:54 |
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| freemangordon | hxka: did you change your queue prameters? | 22:54 |
| freemangordon | well, not your queue, but io queue :) | 22:55 |
| hxka | I tried it long time ago, when ereswap got introduced. Probably not. | 22:57 |
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| freemangordon | hxka: you'd better do it, look at what swappolube recommends | 23:05 |
| freemangordon | I can pastebin my own settings if you wish | 23:06 |
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| wizbit | its a pity BootMenu doesnt have a defrag swap option | 23:14 |
| hxka | what | 23:14 |
| hxka | bm doesn't use swap at all | 23:15 |
| wizbit | i know, but it could be used to defrag a swap partition | 23:15 |
| wizbit | it can fsck partitions | 23:15 |
| hxka | > A workaround to this is to disable and enable swap again - linuxswap filesystem content doesn't live through restarts, and once re-enabled, is written sequentially again. | 23:16 |
| wizbit | ohh interesting | 23:16 |
| wizbit | what about a reboot? | 23:16 |
| wizbit | could put in a script what disables and enables swap in startup | 23:17 |
| wizbit | or maybe that happens anyway | 23:17 |
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| wizbit | or add it as a cron job | 23:19 |
| wizbit | so it only happens 3am | 23:19 |
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| * hxka remembers seeing kernel patch which disables uSD disconnection on backcover removal | 23:24 | |
| * hxka wonders why it is not in the current kernel yet | 23:24 | |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | wizbit: defargmentizing swap after boot is nonsensical and useless | 23:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | a boot clears swap anyway | 23:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hxka: right, would make for a nice candidate for KP | 23:31 |
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| wizbit | DocScrutinizer05: so long as a reboot my phone every now and again i dont need any other tool? | 23:37 |
| hxka | A better approach for reswapping would be: when swap1 is used up, swapon swap2; set swap 2 to higher priority than swap1; only swapoff swap1 when it's no longer used or when swap2 got used up as well; repeat for swap2 | 23:37 |
| wizbit | hxka: why not just reboot the phone | 23:37 |
| hxka | rather that swapoff swap1 immediately after swapon swap2 | 23:38 |
| hxka | wizbit: it's all about uptime | 23:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wizbit: you for sure can reboot phone when it slows down. that's what users did for 3 years or so | 23:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and it always works | 23:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hxka: ack | 23:39 |
| wizbit | on average how long does it take for a swap to get defragmented? | 23:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | defragmented? some minutes | 23:39 |
| wizbit | to the point its not usable? | 23:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | worst case | 23:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 23:39 |
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| wizbit | can the n900 hot swap a battery? | 23:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no | 23:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not really | 23:40 |
| wizbit | not even if power is plugged in from mini usb | 23:40 |
| hxka | there's a trick with wall charger | 23:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I came up with a hack to allow it, but of course only with external charger | 23:41 |
| wizbit | ok | 23:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | afk for dinner | 23:51 |
| xes | freemangordon: do you know if there is a way to get mail uri from modest with a dbus-send command? | 23:52 |
| freemangordon | don't know | 23:52 |
| xes | dbus-send --print-reply --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.modest /com/nokia/modest com.nokia.modest.GetUnreadMessages | 23:54 |
| xes | ^ this lists the unread msg ...but no way to read these (afaik) | 23:54 |
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