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| DocScrutinizer05 | what I suggested: check your plugs | 00:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | somebody with an idea about dpkg, apt-get, and HAM. Could you please have a look at http://privatepaste.com/8531db652f and tell me why it throws error? | 02:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nevermind! could somebody PLEASE NUKE SHITTYBOX?! | 02:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~ $ ls -l /usr/sbin/docpurge | 02:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jan 30 06:40 /usr/sbin/docpurge -> /bin/true | 02:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~ $ ls -l /bin/true | 02:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Sep 11 2012 /bin/true -> busybox | 02:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~ $ /usr/sbin/docpurge | 02:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | docpurge: applet not found | 02:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~ $ | 02:36 |
| infobot | i heard $ is a dollar sign | 02:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | grrrrr! | 02:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | honestly, busybox is the worst broken piece of crap I seen since I quit with windows | 02:41 |
| xes | applet not found == hello there! i'm busybox and i'm makng a fool out of you... ;) | 02:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | xes: exactly | 02:43 |
| Maxdamantus | Wonder if it'd be better not to make all of them symlinks. | 02:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I CBA to even check POSIX if a symlink should work like the target it links to. I'm sure that's an inevitable BUG in crappybox | 02:44 |
| Maxdamantus | It should work like that. | 02:44 |
| Maxdamantus | The problem is that busybox switches on argv[0] | 02:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, I know | 02:44 |
| Maxdamantus | if you run the program as `/usr/sbin/docpurge`, argv[0] is going to be /usr/sbin/docpurge | 02:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's why I say "inevitable" | 02:45 |
| Maxdamantus | it's only inevitable because it's using symlinks. | 02:46 |
| Maxdamantus | it could instead use scripts of the form: | 02:46 |
| Maxdamantus | #!/bin/sh | 02:46 |
| Maxdamantus | exec busybox true "$@" | 02:47 |
| Maxdamantus | except for sh, which will use #!/bin/busybox sh | 02:47 |
| xes | to describe busybox, you could read the git changelog: http://git.busybox.net/busybox/log/ ...Considering that it should manage system tasks, it's pure fear. | 02:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Maxdamantus: axtually thanks for the script blueprint, I've been considering sth like this to "fix" this can of bullshit to work with my other fix for docpurge | 03:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but actually it seems I'm prolly better off (and smarter) by just deleting /usr/sbin/docpurge all together | 03:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or replace it with a 0-liner 0-byte file with +x | 03:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | worst case witj a 1-liner: #!/bin/sh | 03:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | libbb/obscure.c ??? WTF? | 03:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fix a thinko - HAHA | 03:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | xes: incredible! | 03:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | shuf: improve help textshuf: trim help text --- cooool | 03:34 |
| xes | DocScrutinizer05: would you assign important tasks to an embedded device running busybox? ;) | 03:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/fear/horror and loathing/ | 03:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | xes: I definitely shouldn't | 03:37 |
| Maxdamantus | Hm. Can the menu thing that pops up as you plug in USB be disabled easily? | 03:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think yes, it can | 03:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in HARM there's something to select "always just charge", or "always PC-Suite" in settings. I think sth similar exists for fremantle | 03:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe as package in extras(-*) | 03:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | xes: alas busybox seems to be on all routers I use | 04:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm just happy that it usually doesn't do much after booting up the router gear | 04:03 |
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| xes | for sure it gives a minimalist environment... but any script could give unpredictable surprises since anyone uses as reference the standard gnu commands syntax and NOT the busybox limited functions | 04:08 |
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| Maxdamantus | Hm. Is the image verification in the maemo talk search broken? | 04:13 |
| Maxdamantus | Ah, nvm. | 04:14 |
| Maxdamantus | might've been because I had the IP address as the host. | 04:14 |
| * Maxdamantus wonders why those addresses turn up in Google. | 04:14 | |
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| xes | Maxdamantus: search works also pointing at the IP address | 04:24 |
| Maxdamantus | xes: the captcha does? | 04:31 |
| Maxdamantus | Dunno if the captcha appears when logged in. | 04:31 |
| Maxdamantus | Hm. What is actually different in maemo's x11 input system? | 04:35 |
| Maxdamantus | ie, why doesn't xev work? | 04:36 |
| Maxdamantus | or, probably related, mupdf. | 04:36 |
| Maxdamantus | Hmm .. http://qwerty12.qole.org/xev.diff | 04:37 |
| Maxdamantus | Cool, applied the same thing to mupdf and that works now. | 04:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Maxdamantus: please update the repos! | 05:30 |
| Maxdamantus | Hm. mupdf is in the repos? | 05:31 |
| Maxdamantus | Doesn't seem to be. | 05:31 |
| Maxdamantus | Might be worth adding, dunno. | 05:31 |
| bef0rd | I think I saw it there | 05:31 |
| bef0rd | oh no | 05:32 |
| bef0rd | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=86538 | 05:32 |
| Maxdamantus | It's in the debian repo. | 05:32 |
| bef0rd | it's something based on mupdf | 05:32 |
| Maxdamantus | that UI looks crazy. | 05:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | prolly not, I don't even know what it is | 05:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | however xev is in x11-utils | 05:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 7.4+2-1maemo3 0 | 05:35 |
| Maxdamantus | It's basically a PDF viewer without any buttons. | 05:35 |
| Maxdamantus | and importantly, it doesn't try to load the entire PDF at once, which is what I suspect the default one does. | 05:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which xev you used? | 05:37 |
| Maxdamantus | Probably the xev on Gentoo x86_64 | 05:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Filename: pool/maemo5.0/free/x/x11-utils/x11-utils_7.4+2-1maemo3_armel.deb | 05:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, enable-catalogs definitely needs a tiny bit more love | 05:44 |
| Maxdamantus | ii x11-utils 7.4+2-1maemo3 X11 utilities | 05:44 |
| Maxdamantus | This one doesn't seem to work either. | 05:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-/ | 05:44 |
| Maxdamantus | "work" as in respond to key events. | 05:44 |
| Maxdamantus | it shows pointer events fine. | 05:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so could you fix it? | 05:44 |
| Maxdamantus | Same behaviour as mupdf without those extra hints. | 05:44 |
| Maxdamantus | Ah. | 05:44 |
| Maxdamantus | Maybe if I can figure out how to properly build and submit packages. | 05:45 |
| Maxdamantus | Probably also worth adding mupdf if I do. | 05:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide | 05:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~sb | 05:46 |
| infobot | [scratchbox] a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB | 05:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a shame nokia didn't fix that stuff in tools repo | 05:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually there are 2: Filename: pool/fremantle/free/x/x11-utils/x11-utils_7.4+2-1maemo3_armel.deb and Filename: pool/maemo5.0/free/x/x11-utils/x11-utils_7.4+2-1maemo3_armel.deb. Prolly extras-devel and tools repo | 05:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's so DAMN useful that apt doesn't show the repo URL | 05:54 |
| * Maxdamantus wonders how maemo-sdk-install_5.0.sh is expected to work. | 06:13 | |
| Maxdamantus | lhs=$1 | 06:13 |
| Maxdamantus | $__dpkg --compare-versions lhs eq rhs | 06:13 |
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| * Maxdamantus suspects that's meant to be `$lhs eq $rhs`, but can't see how noone would've noticed. | 06:14 | |
| Maxdamantus | I think it's even meant to be comparing scratchbox versions, not dpkg versions. | 06:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 06:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB | 06:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | VM | 06:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or ask freemangordon, he claims to have installed it successfully, 2 minths ago | 06:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | months even | 06:21 |
| Maxdamantus | I think I installed it successfully too, but it wouldn't work again when I tried it. | 06:21 |
| Maxdamantus | I remember modifying the installation scripts though when things messed up. | 06:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep, me too | 06:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~3 or 4 years ago | 06:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | my job been "easier" since I isntalled it to a RPM system | 06:22 |
| Maxdamantus | eta 2h 1m | 06:23 |
| Maxdamantus | Hm. There's a torrent for it somewhere, isn't there? | 06:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think the suse howto still is available in some dusty archive | 06:23 |
| Maxdamantus | Meh, I'll just wait. | 06:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | how's a torrent faster? the uplink at merlin#s box for sure won't get maxed out by your downlink | 06:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think I copied those 1.2GB in <10 min | 06:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | to my box | 06:25 |
| Maxdamantus | I don't think those are the only two variables. | 06:25 |
| Maxdamantus | but it's only downloading at 200 KiB/s | 06:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | eeew | 06:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe the box is just busy with backups | 06:26 |
| Maxdamantus | I know I can get 1.7 MiB/s in optimal conditions (at night, decent distribution of sources) | 06:26 |
| Maxdamantus | but usually at least 1 MiB/s at this time with decently seeded torrents. | 06:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe US based torrents | 06:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin is on juniper2.rz10, I'm on juniper2.rz12 | 06:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | routing until that is same for me | 06:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | prolly Russia already started cyberwar and DDoS against USA ;-P | 06:39 |
| Maxdamantus | It's obviously an artificial throttle somewhere. | 06:40 |
| Maxdamantus | since each connection is 200 KiB/s each | 06:40 |
| Maxdamantus | s/ each$// | 06:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, smells like QoS | 06:40 |
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| * Maxdamantus wonders if this VM image has a password for `maemo` | 09:49 | |
| Maxdamantus | Oh, the password is "maemo" | 09:50 |
| * Maxdamantus tried that before but didn't think about the VM using a different keyboard layout. | 09:50 | |
| * Maxdamantus wonders what bootloader it's using. | 09:53 | |
| Maxdamantus | grub, apparently. | 09:55 |
| Maxdamantus | Has one of these stupid generated grub.cfgs | 09:56 |
| Maxdamantus | Mk, boots properly with my two-line entry. | 10:01 |
| Maxdamantus | rather than printing out something about missing a mode for half a second before rebooting. | 10:01 |
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| Maxdamantus | ah, sb-conf se FREMANTLE_ARMEL | 12:01 |
| * Maxdamantus was trying st | 12:01 | |
| Maxdamantus | so .. sbox-config -st = sb-conf se ? | 12:02 |
| Maxdamantus | Dunno. | 12:02 |
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| srimalik | DocScrutinizer05: ping | 20:01 |
| srimalik | DocScrutinizer05: I reopened the device once again and doubled checked and put some more force on each of the joints of ribbon cable. | 20:02 |
| srimalik | after the that the touch screen was OK | 20:02 |
| srimalik | I also checked the logs and seems that you finally found the command to launch the calibration program, Thanks for the efforts | 20:03 |
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