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| * DocScrutinizer05 wonders why there's still no "==the ultimate flashing tool==\n <code>sudo (wget http://maemo.cloud7-de/flashingtool -O /usr/local/bin/flashingtool && chmod +x /usr/local/bin/flashingtool && /usr/local/bin/flashingtool)" | 00:41 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | </code> | 00:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmmmm http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1421536#post1421536 | 00:48 |
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| otwieracz | hi | 02:10 |
| otwieracz | Any ideas why http://wklej.org/hash/7e2f969da2e/ behaviours like: | 02:10 |
| otwieracz | $ ./extfmc.py | 02:10 |
| otwieracz | $ | 02:10 |
| otwieracz | and no window at all? | 02:10 |
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| Maxdamantus | otwieracz: you never call gtk.main() | 02:13 |
| Maxdamantus | otwieracz: it's in a method that's never called. | 02:13 |
| otwieracz | Hmm. | 02:13 |
| otwieracz | Yes, I examined this right now. | 02:13 |
| otwieracz | But on my desktop it works fine. | 02:13 |
| otwieracz | what's weird | 02:13 |
| Maxdamantus | It doesn't on mine. | 02:14 |
| Maxdamantus | unless I add `win.main()` at the end. | 02:14 |
| Maxdamantus | are you sure you're running the same version of the program as in the paste? | 02:15 |
| otwieracz | Yes. | 02:15 |
| Maxdamantus | on the desktop | 02:15 |
| otwieracz | weird | 02:16 |
| otwieracz | I find the difference | 02:16 |
| Maxdamantus | You're not running it within another Python script that later calls gtk.main() | 02:16 |
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| Maxdamantus | or glib.main_loop() or something | 02:16 |
| otwieracz | It shows only when in interpreter: | 02:16 |
| otwieracz | |>>> win = XfmcWindow() | 02:16 |
| otwieracz | window shows | 02:16 |
| otwieracz | |>>> | 02:16 |
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| Maxdamantus | Are you running a special Gtk-augmented interpreter? | 02:17 |
| Maxdamantus | I've seen one, which should result in the behaviour you're seeing. | 02:17 |
| Maxdamantus | Essentially, that is "another Python script that later calls gtk.main()" | 02:18 |
| Maxdamantus | although it's earlier, not later. | 02:18 |
| otwieracz | I am running python -i in emacs. | 02:19 |
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| Maxdamantus | Dunno then, but you see now what's missing, at least. | 02:20 |
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| Maxdamantus | Ah, it does it for me as well in the normal interpreter. | 02:21 |
| Maxdamantus | So I guess pygtk itself runs gtk.main() beforehand if it notices it's being loaded in the interpreter. | 02:22 |
| Maxdamantus | so that you can see the GUI as you're programming it. | 02:22 |
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| natsukao | hi | 04:07 |
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| natsukao | for all the users of nokia's, android, GNU/linux... | 04:08 |
| natsukao | see: http://pastebin.com/3A5h2QbJ | 04:08 |
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| natsukao | better to consult: http://pastebin.com/gjfd1SLR | 04:14 |
| natsukao | is fine explained, how to use on nokia 770 | 04:14 |
| natsukao | will not be, much different on the other ones | 04:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | HUH? | 04:15 |
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| natsukao | if you are interested to modify the source code, add your names, the modifies you did, and explain how to use on different achitecture as i did | 04:15 |
| natsukao | yes, is only a script ! | 04:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, this thing looks pretty fishy | 04:17 |
| natsukao | a script generated on X86 for NetBSD, and i found the way, to do work it on a ARM (RISC) on Nokia 770 | 04:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I suggest to NOT test this stuff! | 04:18 |
| natsukao | the fact is that it works, and is just pretty for this | 04:18 |
| natsukao | i tested it, and it works | 04:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, the registry optimizer that hacked my bank account also worked just fine | 04:18 |
| natsukao | i explained how to use that script on Nokia 770 | 04:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please stop that nonsense | 04:19 |
| natsukao | it was available only for OpenBSD | 04:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when it's a script, it's completely nonsensical to claim it was for X86 | 04:20 |
| natsukao | anything, that can seems a strange game, generated with a script, or else, i think that would be accepted with pleasure | 04:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and it only consists of 5 lines code that look terribly fishy | 04:20 |
| natsukao | and it works on ARM | 04:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | PLEASE STOP ADVERISING MALWARE! | 04:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | was that clear enough? | 04:21 |
| robbiethe1st | I don't see how it could do anything bad, despite seeming fishy | 04:21 |
| natsukao | maleware ? | 04:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | robbiethe1st: it's not exactly obvious but very strong indications it does rogue stuff | 04:22 |
| natsukao | that source code was generated to the # The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. | 04:22 |
| natsukao | read any single row, before to type on the keyboard | 04:23 |
| natsukao | between 1985 and 1993 there was not the idea of a maleware | 04:23 |
| natsukao | maleware are things of late 2000 years | 04:23 |
| natsukao | not certenly in that era | 04:24 |
| robbiethe1st | uh | 04:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | natsukao: last warning! | 04:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tput cl | 04:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | exec /storage/sdcard0/Download/$x $a | 04:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SUUUURE | 04:24 |
| robbiethe1st | Isn't it basically just a 'wrapper' which executes the command line argument given in the given folder( /storage/sdcard0/Download/ ) on android | 04:26 |
| robbiethe1st | and if the file doesn't exist, echos a couple of silly lines | 04:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 04:26 |
| natsukao | because on the mobile phone, that i have had, there was not other way | 04:27 |
| robbiethe1st | It looks like something silly and useless from what... 93? when someone might have thought it funny | 04:27 |
| natsukao | as i said anyone is free to modify so that can use on his own architecture as he/she prefeers | 04:27 |
| robbiethe1st | harmful? I don't see any problems with it. | 04:27 |
| robbiethe1st | But I don't see any need to use it either | 04:28 |
| natsukao | on my mobile phone there was | 04:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's a part of an obviously dangerous package | 04:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and it for sure won't result in anything funny or useful | 04:29 |
| natsukao | basename is part of OpenBSD or of NetBSD, and is available in the directory /games | 04:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | absolutely last warning! | 04:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | take it elsewhere | 04:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | prolly nobody in here needs lessons what's basename(1) | 04:30 |
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| natsukao | i used on Nokia 770, and it works, on GNU/linux gNewSense Deltah 2.3 linux kernel version 2.6.24-32 works fine | 04:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok, sorry | 04:31 |
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| robbiethe1st | to be fair... http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/bsdgames | 04:31 |
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| natsukao | if don't like what i type, you are free don't reply, | 04:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | might install to /storage/sdcard0/Download/ | 04:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if N900 has such dir | 04:32 |
| natsukao | who are you to tell people what to type or not to type ? | 04:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | natsukao: you've been warned twice to stop | 04:32 |
| natsukao | I° Amendament of American Constitution defends Freedom Of Speech | 04:33 |
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| robbiethe1st | alright, that got stupid | 04:33 |
| robbiethe1st | On the other hand, package `bsdgames` in debian, indeed has that excecutable - /usr/games/wargames, which is almost the same. | 04:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess he's 12 y old | 04:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | robbiethe1st: possibly, but that appearance been too stupid | 04:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and when I hear exec /storage/sdcard0/Download/$x then my heuristics for malware shout ALARM!!!! | 04:35 |
| robbiethe1st | True | 04:36 |
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| robbiethe1st | also: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2014/apr/14/new-banksy-mural-near-gchq-depicts-agents-listening-in-on-phone-box | 04:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | (alarm) particularly when some hacker with tongue in cheek named the whole thing "wargames" | 04:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which is all about backdoors and stuff | 04:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and intrusion, and computers going evil | 04:40 |
| natsukao_ | Paper of Human Rights defends Freedom Of Speech with 5 Article, Italian Consitution defends Freedom Of Speech with article 21 | 04:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dang!!! | 04:40 |
| natsukao_ | as i just said i have not developed it, i only modified few rows | 04:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | those articles don't apply to irc channels | 04:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | robbiethe1st: next thing he suggests is: you need to have uSD card in android phone and then isntall package BSD-foobar there. Then swap uSD to Nokia phone and copy the script from pastebin. Then it works!! I swear!1!11 | 04:49 |
| robbiethe1st | hm | 04:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wgich of course it still doesn't since on maemo there's no /storage/ | 04:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but eventually he manages to talk other users into running completely untested possibly rogue stuff on their devices | 04:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | well, maybe on 770 maemo there actually been storage, dunno | 04:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | can't even recall the name of 770 maemo. Bora? | 04:57 |
| robbiethe1st | os2005, os2006 | 04:58 |
| robbiethe1st | I've got one around somewhere | 04:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mhm | 04:59 |
| robbiethe1st | even worked, last I checked... but too slow to do much | 04:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Codenames | 04:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so Mistral, if anything | 05:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Scirocco, or Gregale | 05:00 |
| robbiethe1st | yeah | 05:01 |
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| * DocScrutinizer05 suddenly recalls the "spare parts for Nokia N9-00" hits when searching the web | 05:09 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-o | 05:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I also wonder what's the current pricetaf for mint condition N950 | 05:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pricetag* | 05:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ... /storage/sdcard0/Download/$x - TZZ | 05:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess without a +x you can't even exec such stuff, and for a +x the sdcard would need sth other than VFAT | 05:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but yeah, a mkdir -p /storage/sdcard0/Download/ for sure would work - until your rootfs is eaten by the crap | 05:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, there's a section about Nokia, which uses /usr/bin/games/ or somesuch instead of that /storage/sdcard.... | 05:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meh, whatever, 20 year old silly script, and no usefull instructions either | 05:32 |
| robbiethe1st | It's designed as a launcher for a bunch of other text games | 05:33 |
| robbiethe1st | from 20 years ago | 05:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 05:33 |
| robbiethe1st | see the bsdgames package | 05:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the idea is to answer "chess", not "yes" | 05:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but that would require "chess" binary to be installed in /usr/bin/games/ or whateveritwas | 05:34 |
| robbiethe1st | yes | 05:34 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Anybody noticed an issue with the A-GPS again, both my N900's with SIM's fail to get a lock, happened on Sunday IIRC. | 11:27 |
| joga | google supl selected? | 11:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast | yep, checked all that. | 11:29 |
| joga | I think I last used gps about a week ago or so, didn't notice anything peculiar then | 11:30 |
| sixwheeledbeast | As I say A-GPS is on most of time for me so I noticed when it stopped. | 11:32 |
| sixwheeledbeast | FYI it has to be supl.nokia.com | 11:32 |
| sixwheeledbeast | but I have tested both with no luck | 11:33 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | freemangordon: ^^^ IIRC you did the fix last time? If anyone can confirm it's not just me. | 11:54 |
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| TTilus | sixwheeledbeast: agps on my n900 has been failing for some time now | 13:53 |
| TTilus | sixwheeledbeast: if you find out anything, please share | 13:53 |
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| HAMIDx9 | Hey guys, I'm looking for a way to specify the access point mac address which i try to connect , it seems the location of these info is via gconf is : /var/lib/gconf/system/osso/connectivity/IAP/###..###/ | 14:58 |
| HAMIDx9 | is there any way to specify the mac address ? | 14:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | aiui gconf isn't meant to get used via editing files | 16:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | gconftool -R /|grep connectivity/IAP; is the way to go | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or "gconftool -R /system/osso/connectivity/IAP" | 16:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | but I don't know of any way to specify MAC addr of AP | 17:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | AIUI WLAN isn't even meant to do anything like that. Rather it's meant to roam between several AP with same SSID | 17:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | on a sidenote: Nokia just informs about their expected finalization of the sale of "Devices & Services" to M$ in April. I guess that's the definitive dead end for any maemo related negotiations with Nokia | 18:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | good luck for anybody trying to negotiate anything maemo related with M$ | 18:22 |
| Apic | =) | 18:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not really | 18:22 |
| Apic | I find it sad that M$ bought Nokia | 18:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on the bright side: not even the most loyal (soon ex-)nokian needs to worry about negative impact to his employer of him disclosing all sourcecodes | 18:26 |
| NIN101 | well, one can dream :-). | 18:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I doubt anybody would dare to try and sue M$ for any copyright violations or breaking contracts that Nokia might have done | 18:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and for sure M$ is not liable for any of that | 18:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | security issues in flasher? who cares! | 18:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maemo at large? who cares! | 18:30 |
| NIN101 | yes, they won't care as it brings no money (any more). | 18:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | unless somebody in M$ smells a monetization plan | 18:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hard to come up with a sensible story what such plan would look like... but who knows | 18:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | luckily >95% of maemo are FOSS | 18:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not even M$ has any means to revert that | 18:33 |
| Apic | Yeah | 18:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe M$ calls their next crappy phone OS "maemo" X-P | 18:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I suggest we switch to "the-true-and-only-maemo" for name then | 18:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | will be interesting to watch a few whois results during the next months | 18:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Domain Name:MAEMO.ORG | 18:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Registrant ID:mmr-31461 | 18:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Registrant Name:Nokia Corporation | 18:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Updated Date: 2014-01-07T10:24:55Z | 18:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Registry Expiry Date: 2015-02-07T16:26:32Z | 18:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Admin ID:mmr-31462 | 18:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Admin Name:Nokia dnsauthority | 18:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Tech ID:mmr-31463 | 18:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Tech Name:Nokia Hostmaster | 18:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | possible activities to be seen: a) nothing (until january next year, when domain either expires or gets renewed or whatever) b) transfer to HiFo c) transfer to M$ d) deletion | 18:43 |
| deepy | HiFo? | 18:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | given all previous examples, I'd bet on a) | 18:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~hifo | 18:44 |
| Apic | =) | 18:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | omg | 18:45 |
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| deepy | It'll probably redirect to the WP page | 18:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? | 18:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues hildon | 18:46 |
| infobot | Factoid search of 'hildon' by value (6): hildon-extras ;; #maemo mhd ;; speedyham ;; desktop-lock ;; #maemo ham ;; transitions.ini. | 18:46 |
| deepy | transferred to MS and then redirected to the WP page | 18:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what's "WP page"? | 18:46 |
| deepy | http://www.windowsphone.com/ | 18:47 |
| Apic | Ouch | 18:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mhm | 18:47 |
| Apic | That'd be an Epic Fail | 18:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hi maemonians! I'd need a betatester (or two) for http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/enable-catalogs | 20:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | how to use: enable-catalogs save myDefaultCatalogSettings | 20:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | <change catalogs in HAM> | 20:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | enable-catalogs save mySpecialSettings | 20:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | <do some apt-get install stuff for example> | 20:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | <revert to standard:> | 20:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | enable-catalogs myDefaultCatalogSettings | 20:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | see enable-catalogs -h for details | 20:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I did cursory tests, but as usual: no warranty explicit or implied, for fitness for any purpose, damage, eaten cats... | 20:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, as you might have guessed, you should copy the file to somewhere in your $PATH (maybe actually /usr/local/sbin/, if that's part of $PATH), you should chmod +x it, and you will *need root* to execute it | 20:29 |
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| Sc0rpius | freemangordon, still no Yappari 1.1.46 armel in Extras :( | 20:50 |
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| jean_brat | maemo extras are down? | 20:57 |
| jean_brat | nothing is getting downloaded | 20:58 |
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| hxka | DocScrutinizer05: why are you creating hardlinks? | 20:59 |
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| hxka | That's total nonsense | 21:00 |
| hxka | > enable-catalogs save myDefaultCatalogSettings | 21:00 |
| hxka | > <change catalogs in HAM> | 21:00 |
| hxka | After that all of the changes will appear in myDefaultCatalogSettings as well | 21:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hxka: errrr | 21:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | usually any change in file content *should* result in unlinking and creating a new file of same name | 21:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | unless the process opened the existing file for modification, which is not what I'd expect HAM to do | 21:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I might be wrong, that's why I ask for testers' review ;-) | 21:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | if the process editing the file was a hexeditor then I'd agree | 21:10 |
| hxka | https://privatepaste.com/b74327317c | 21:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ok, I owe you one :-D | 21:13 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 removes a few "l" | 21:14 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hxka: many thanks! | 21:14 |
| hxka | You're welcome :) | 21:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | how's the rest? like 'list' and 'delete' ? | 21:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (ok, it's so trivial it really better be right) | 21:16 |
| hxka | Ha-ha! I don't like that delete doen't check whether the directoy exists before trying to remove it, but that's not critical | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, I been lazy. pondered check but thought "meh!" | 21:18 |
| hxka | Same with restoring | 21:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | prolly I'll set up the script so it exits on error, and implement a trap for error handling and diagnostic output | 21:19 |
| hxka | And there is not much point in using checkname function anywhere except saving | 21:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | really? | 21:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) | 21:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | enable catalogs '; rm -rf /' | 21:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this sort of stuff | 21:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | enable-catalogs delete ../../../* | 21:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure I could use basename or whatever | 21:23 |
| hxka | Second point is valid | 21:24 |
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| hxka | As for the first one, variables should be put in doublequotes | 21:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 21:25 |
| hxka | One of the reasons I hate sh | 21:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | guess I missed to consistently do that | 21:25 |
| hxka | It provides so many ways to shoot oneself in the foot | 21:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure, sh has its issues | 21:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but one advantage: it's ubiquitous | 21:26 |
| Ken-Young | So is tooth decay. | 21:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (you can argue binary is also ;-P) | 21:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no sarcastic comments re main() ? ;) | 21:27 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 makes mental note to test the script under messybox too | 21:28 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually it's a POC, that I just had to save to safely disconnect from my wlan ssh session ;-) | 21:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since I'm going afk, RL calling | 21:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | (main) a nice way of my own to make sure at least the syntax of whole script is correct | 21:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IroN900:/etc/enable-catalogs# enable-catalogs --help | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /usr/local/sbin/enable-catalogs: line 41: syntax error: ")" unexpected (expecting ";;") | 21:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | updated version in http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/usr/local/sbin/enable-catalogs | 21:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bbl | 21:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I just wonder if I should already add an `apt-get update` at end of restore section | 21:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | prolly sucks | 21:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/session-log_enable-catalogs_README.txt | 22:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | weird how similar http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/dontpanic/1.0/ looks to http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/bootvideo-DONTPANIC/ | 22:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | took him 9 months to create a package from my stuff, and yet no credits anywhere? | 22:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, "my" stuff, since I can't recall who been the one who rendered it. Maybe it's been him | 22:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75343 | 23:30 |
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