| Agge | DocScrutinizer05, to bad when stuff like that hapends but I whink we all understand that it makes anyone want to stop | 00:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | list of filenames/md5sums: http://pastebin.com/sYKdNJSH | 00:00 |
| Shahram | Ah i see. That is understandable. | 00:01 |
| Agge | what is the thumbs repo? | 00:01 |
| Agge | sixwheeledbeast, I can find speedyham in CSSU-Devel | 00:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Agge: eh? was that a question? | 00:10 |
| Agge | i am trying to find a good aplication manager | 00:11 |
| Agge | or one that it bether then the standard one but still handel the non apt-get stuff correct | 00:12 |
| sixwheeledbeast | speedyHAM is basically huge fixes to HAM. I don't get what you mean by "non apt-get stuff" | 00:13 |
| Agge | iirc I found some aplication manager that was just a grafical interface for apt-get so I got recomended to not use that | 00:14 |
| Agge | how do I install speedyHAM ? or is it alredy installed on my device if it runns CSSU? | 00:15 |
| Agge | ~speedyHAM | 00:18 |
| Agge | :( | 00:18 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Faster Application Manager aka fapman or FAM is a GUI for apt-get. Unfortunately maemo is a weird beast and FAM and apt-get doesn't account for this. So HAM is highly recommended. | 00:19 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Agge: which CSSU? | 00:19 |
| Agge | 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo8.3+thumb1 | 00:20 |
| Agge | unless i use the testing repository it dont show any updates for me | 00:20 |
| Agge | maemo 5 cssu also | 00:21 |
| sixwheeledbeast | let me check something... | 00:21 |
| hxka | Agge: http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-1_armel.deb | 00:23 |
| Shahram | Hm i am having a bit of problem here. Memo flasher 3.5 is not finding my n900. | 00:23 |
| hxka | OS? | 00:23 |
| Shahram | Windows | 00:24 |
| hxka | 64-bit? | 00:24 |
| Shahram | I think so. Not my own computer.. | 00:24 |
| Shahram | Yes it is. | 00:25 |
| hxka | http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware#Workaround_for_.22no_suitable_device_found.22_problem_on_Windows_7_x64 | 00:25 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Agge: you can install .deb above for speedyHAM. You will see updates with the testing repo enabled as the latest version is 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo9.1 | 00:26 |
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| Shahram | Thanks | 00:27 |
| Agge | sixwheeledbeast, what repositorys would you recoment that anyone use? and what should I have disabled? | 00:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~speedyHAM is http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-1_armel.deb | 00:28 |
| infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 | 00:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Well I believe if you have testing and thumb enabled you will get updates from both. | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cssu-testing | 00:29 |
| Agge | yeah but I am a little confused should I only have testing and thumbs and skipp all other stuff? | 00:30 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Hopefully speedyHAM will be in next testing update anyway. | 00:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you shouldn't keep extras-testing and7or -devel enabled | 00:30 |
| Agge | what about the nokia or the ovi one? | 00:30 |
| hxka | You can disable ovi one | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ovi is... a zombie | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nokia you need | 00:31 |
| hxka | I it never used anyway | 00:31 |
| Agge | both applications and system sofware updates? | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | may have dependencies | 00:31 |
| sixwheeledbeast | testing, thumb, nokia SSU, extras. anything else only enable if you need something. | 00:31 |
| Agge | so just cssu tumbs and testing not the one that is only cssu? | 00:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Agge: there are basically no more updates except ne versions of cssu-testing or cssu-stable | 00:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | new | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and very occasionally a new version entering maemo extras | 00:33 |
| Agge | just wanted to be sure about what was the corect one to use instad off just adding all of them | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's an extras-testing you shouldn't use ever | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and there's cssu-testing which is where CSSU-T comes from | 00:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | also you may want to enable extras-devel temporarily to install an app that's in this repo, after you found out which app it is you want. DO NOT keep extras-devel enabled for updates | 00:35 |
| Agge | aha thanks | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maemo extras is where all the additional apps come from | 00:36 |
| Agge | is the cssu testing maemo update considerd stabel? | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~cssu | 00:36 |
| infobot | somebody said cssu was http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bbl o/ | 00:37 |
| Agge | thanks see you | 00:37 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Agge: CSSU Stable is considered stable. CSSU Testing is considered a long term testing repo. Which the latter has occasionally seen the odd bug. | 00:39 |
| Agge | so no real bad bugs? | 00:39 |
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| Agge | is the /h/ after community-devel/pool/free hidden? | 00:41 |
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| hxka | No, why? | 00:42 |
| Agge | cant find hildon-application-manager in cssu devel | 00:42 |
| hxka | http://i.imgur.com/Z0ZX9Vw.png uh | 00:43 |
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| Agge | yeah in the aplication manager in the phone it cant be found | 00:44 |
| Agge | but apt-get found it | 00:44 |
| hxka | That's because it's not in the user section | 00:44 |
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| Agge | aha so i need to add somthing more then "free non-free" ? | 00:45 |
| hxka | because it's not supposed to be updated without maemo | 00:45 |
| hxka | no | 00:45 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Agge: just use ~speedyHAM link .deb No need to play with repos. | 00:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ~speedyHAM | 00:47 |
| Agge | yeah but I thoght that I might find a faster way then imputing that link in the terminal :) | 00:47 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, speedyham is http://maemo.merlin1991.at/cssu/community-devel/pool/free/h/hildon-application-manager/hildon-application-manager_2.2.73-1_armel.deb | 00:47 |
| Agge | is it the program that is named appdownloder in the menus? | 00:47 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Link on above link with your N900 it will open the application manager and install it. | 00:48 |
| sixwheeledbeast | s/Link/Click/ | 00:49 |
| infobot | sixwheeledbeast meant: Click on above link with your N900 it will open the application manager and install it. | 00:49 |
| hxka | Agge: also terminal supports clipboard | 00:49 |
| Agge | hxka, true I when I do somthing complicated with my N900 I usialu just ssh into it | 00:50 |
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| Agge | it says "unable to update 'hildon-application-manager'. Incompatible application package | 00:57 |
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| Agge | is it supose to exitst a program named speedyham after I have installed that? | 01:01 |
| hxka | No, it's an update for existing hildon-application-manager | 01:07 |
| Agge | aha thanks | 01:09 |
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| Shahram | Hm i am having a bit of a problem here | 02:25 |
| Shahram | I managed to get the COMBINED flashed on my windows 7 64 bit | 02:25 |
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| Shahram | but now when i try to do the emmc it is not working.. | 02:25 |
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| Shahram | It is saying suitable usb device not found | 02:25 |
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| Shahram | It worked with the combined but not with this. :/ | 02:26 |
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| Shahram | DocScrutinizer05: Could you help me? | 02:26 |
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| Maxdamantus | Shahram: you're meant to plug it in while the flasher is running. | 02:51 |
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| Maxdamantus | Shahram: so the flasher should say it's waiting and stay open, looking for booting N900s. | 02:51 |
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| Maxdamantus | (you plug the N900 in using USB while it's off) | 02:52 |
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| Shahram | Maxdamantus: the interesting thing with this is that it finds it and than loose it. | 02:54 |
| Maxdamantus | what does the device do? | 02:55 |
| Shahram | Maxdamantus: it is found by the computer as update mode and than lost | 02:57 |
| Shahram | and found again as storage mode i think | 02:57 |
| Maxdamantus | so it keeps booting normally? | 02:58 |
| Shahram | Yeah. | 02:58 |
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| Shahram | Hm it is like the program finds it and starts to get the emmc but then crash. | 03:02 |
| Shahram | or well the connection crash | 03:02 |
| Shahram | and then it reconnects and it is out of Update mode | 03:02 |
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| zGrr | moin :) | 09:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Shahram: I guess your problem is the PC, particularly some utility that autodetects the N900. Nokia suite? | 12:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | it's really strange that not a single hacker has published an .iso of a live-linux CD with a script that does automatic flashing of N900 from the COMBINED and VANILLA included in the .iso | 12:58 |
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| Shahram | DocScrutinizer05: That could be correct.. I am going to try to reinstall my Linux laptop and try it on it. | 13:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Shahram: uninstalling of the Nokia suite might suffice | 13:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, no windows in my world, so I can't help | 13:36 |
| Shahram | DocScrutinizer05: i am not sure how to do that. I have a linux computer i can reinstall and try with that. | 13:37 |
| Shahram | But now i am in an sustanable development conferanse. Be back later. Thanks for all the help! <3 | 13:38 |
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| kolp__ | does anyone know how to close a tab in Communi? | 19:30 |
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| kolp__ | and does anyone remember how to copy from an email in modest? can't find the bookmark... | 19:53 |
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| ds3 | only way I know is to hit reply, copy it from the editor then abort the mail | 19:54 |
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| kolp__ | yes, but there's another way. recently saw it on tmo, now can't find it again | 19:56 |
| kolp__ | found it! press shift and select text with stylus or finger, then ctrl-c | 20:01 |
| * kolp__ shall not forget this again... | 20:01 | |
| Sicelo | nice one :) | 20:01 |
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| hxka | kolp__: you can use swipe-from-th-left gusture, like in microb | 20:43 |
| hxka | s/th/the/ | 20:43 |
| infobot | hxka meant: kolp__: you can use swipe-from-the-left gusture, like in microb | 20:43 |
| hxka | as well as in the conversations | 20:44 |
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| hxka | wait? it doesn't work in modest | 20:45 |
| hxka | i do remember it working though | 20:45 |
| hxka | was it broken in cssu or i have delusions? | 20:46 |
| kolp__ | neither in conversations, it seems | 20:46 |
| hxka | it works in conversations | 20:46 |
| hxka | just tried | 20:46 |
| kolp__ | hah, it does indeed! | 20:47 |
| kolp__ | ah, wasn't that html-based? | 20:47 |
| hxka | nope | 20:47 |
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| Sicelo | i would say 'yes' .. Conversations does use html (iirc there's even a CSS file somewhere) | 21:01 |
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| hxka | Ah, I was thinking he was talking about text selection mode switcher | 21:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: exactly, and you can edit it to make new looks for your conversations | 21:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's a reason why 3 or 4 browserd instances running on standard fremantle | 21:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I gather it's an early premature glimpse of the idea/concept of qml | 21:24 |
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| kolp__ | yes, I was thinking that the swipe-from-left is a feature of gthat. modest obviously uses something else to display mails/html | 21:38 |
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| hxka | No, modest uses microb | 21:49 |
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