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kerioubuntu's moving to systemd10:48
kerioeventually we'll have no upstream updates for upstart10:49
kerioclearly, it's time to start moving back to sysV init10:49
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Sicelofreemangordon: how much work would be involved in 'fixing' certman packages to offer the option to accept an unverifiable certificate, much the same as Microb does? I'm asking because of having to connect to an enterprise wifi network (WPA2-PEAP+MSCHAPv2)14:08
Sicelousing wpa_supplicant allows me to connect of course, and from its log, i can see the problem certificate. needless to say, the net admins don't want to discuss anything. to them it looks like i'm trying to 'hack' their wifi :P14:10
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Siceloit could be that it is eapd that really needs fixing, but being closed, maybe certman would help14:23
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freemangordonSicelo: if it is eapd, maybe it is time to RE that16:51
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Superpelican_freemangordon: remember && ctrl+f "superpelican"17:36
Superpelican_I installed the SDK yesterday17:36
Superpelican_and did dpkg-source -x kernel-power_2.6.28-10power52.dsc17:36
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Superpelican_freemangordon: Unfortunately the source tree doesn't contain OMAP source code files17:38
freemangordonSuperpelican_: do bpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b17:40
freemangordonyou'll get the real source code in debian/build/...17:40
freemangordondpkg-buildpackage ofc :)17:40
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Superpelican_freemangordon: "dpkg-parsechangelog: error: cannot open debian/changelog to find format: No such file or directory" && "dpkg-buildpackage: unable to determine source package is"17:41
freemangordonSuperpelican_: chdir to the source directory :(17:42
Superpelican_"dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: quilt sdk-fiasco-gen sharutils wl1251-maemo-source"17:42
Superpelican_"dpkg-buildpackage: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting."17:43
freemangordonSuperpelican_: well, just install those17:44
freemangordonapt-get install ...17:44
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Superpelican_ofc :)17:44
Superpelican_but wl1251-maemo-source doesn't seem to be available17:45
freemangordonit is , for sure17:45
freemangordonmaybe only in -extras-devel repo17:45
freemangordonjust wget & dpkg -i it17:45
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Superpelican_but will the extras-devel version be compatible with my N900's kernel power version17:46
Superpelican_(remember I'm only building a module here) ;)17:46
freemangordonSuperpelican_: extras-devel version of what?17:46
Superpelican_of wl1251-maemo-source17:47
freemangordonthis is source code17:47
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Superpelican_yes but isn't that a newer version of the source code?17:47
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freemangordonSuperpelican_: no18:07
Superpelican_freemangordon: My N900 has kernel-power 5218:07
Superpelican_So will that module be compatible with kp52?18:08
Superpelican_ok :)18:08
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Sicelofreemangordon: yes, re'ing eapd would likely help :) question, who has the know-how, and most importantly, the time18:10
freemangordonSicelo: me, but I need a motivation too :D. /me is going to check if there is x86 binary18:12
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Siceloi know you got the know-how18:13
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Superpelicanmy computer just suddenly rebooted :/18:13
freemangordonSicelo: where on root is that binary?18:14
Sicelo /usr/bin/eapd18:14
freemangordonSicelo: which packages is that? (dpkg -S eapd)18:16
Siceloi'm the one that should say thanks18:17
freemangordonSicelo: well, I am not sure I will start RE that, so too early to say thanks :)18:19
freemangordonhmm, seems there is no x86 binary :(18:20
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freemangordonSicelo: OMG18:21
freemangordonls -al /usr/bin/eapd18:21
freemangordon-rwsr-xr-x    1 root     root       522172 Jun 24  2010 /usr/bin/eapd18:21
freemangordonmission impossible18:23
Sicelotoo big?18:23
freemangordonand QRM only18:24
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Sicelocool. at least now i'm more enlightened :)18:25
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freemangordonSicelo: maybe a better idea is to make a wrapper on top of wpa supplicant that exposes eapd dbus methods18:35
freemangordonno idea if that is feasible18:35
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Sicelowpa_supplicant does have the unfortunate limitation that power consumption is just excessive18:36
Sicelothat would have to be fixed/workarounded first18:37
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freemangordonbut why is that binary > 500k?18:42
Siceloeapd? curious indeed18:42
freemangordonyeah, eapd18:43
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Superpelican_LOL my cpu is really going to like this, compiling sailfish-browser and the maemo kernel :P18:56
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DocScrutinizer05Superpelican_: you wanted that URL?
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: what *is* eapd?19:04
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SiceloDocScrutinizer05: the daemon that is responsible for all wifi stuff that touches on EAP19:06
DocScrutinizer05for the size, that's realy bizarre. Maybe it's not stripped?19:06
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DocScrutinizer05eap been that escrow bla bla crap, right?19:07
DocScrutinizer05~wiki eap19:07
infobotAt (URL), Wikipedia explains: "'EAP' may refer to: {{wiktionary|EAP}} {{TOC right}} *EA Patras, a Greek sports club * The business school, which, after merging with ESCP, became ESCP Europe *European Workers Party ("Europeiska arbetarpartiet") *European Association for Psychotherapy *University of California Education Abroad Program *Eastern Partnership, a proposed initiative in the European Union *ICC East ...19:07
Siceloextensible authentication protocol19:08
Sicelogenerally any enterprise wifi network uses some form of EAP19:08
DocScrutinizer05ooh, yep19:08
DocScrutinizer05well, looking at I start to guess why it's 0.5MB size19:10
Superpelican_freemangordon: dpkg-buildpackage has finished, but: "dpkg-buildpackage: binary only upload (no source included)"19:11
Superpelican_does that mean that it only created binaries!?19:11
Superpelican_I only wanted the source of the omap hsmmc module19:11
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DocScrutinizer05but I also have massive doubts about Nokia (or its contractors) having written more than max 10% in eapd genuinely. Prooly just another GPL violation19:12
Superpelican_freemangordon: It did create debian/build though19:13
Superpelican_and the omap hsmmc files are there :)19:13
DocScrutinizer05prolly, even19:13
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Sicelotoo bad eapd keeps everything 'secret'.. no log anywhere19:14
DocScrutinizer05too bad nobody really cares to pester Nokia about any GPL violations. AFAIK a few ones still verified and not resolved yet19:15
Siceloicd does log some stuff related to eapd, but that's just "eap authentication failed"19:16
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Superpelican_freemangordon: I've now edited the module's source code, what do I do now?19:25
Superpelican_use make or dpkg-buildpackage19:25
Superpelican_I only want the omap_hsmmc module19:25
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SiceloSuperpelican_: what are you fixing in that module?19:31
Superpelican_Sicelo: My N900 appears to have a broken cover detection sensor19:31
Superpelican_It always thinks its back cover is open :(19:31
Superpelican_So it unmounts the SD card19:31
bef0rdthat's a magnet19:31
Superpelican_I've checked it19:32
Superpelican_I've read all the threads on TMO about it19:32
Superpelican_I've tried very strong magnets19:32
Superpelican_nothing helped19:32
Superpelican_And it started doing weird after I dropped it19:32
Superpelican_the camera app also opens at random moments19:33
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Siceloso now how will you be detecting cover closed/open and cam covered/open?19:34
Siceloor you'll have it 'stuck' in one of the modes?19:35
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Superpelican_Sicelo: Well I didn't do anything about the cam stuff19:36
Superpelican_I can live with that19:36
Superpelican_(my N900 isn't my main phone anymore since I have my Jolla)19:37
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Superpelican_I just want to be able to boot from my microSD card again :)19:37
Superpelican_to make my N900 useful again19:37
Superpelican_I could be use it as an ARM dev device19:38
Sicelomeaning shutdown in order to remove mmc?19:38
Superpelican_I don't care19:38
Superpelican_as long as I can boot other OSes from the microSD :)19:38
Superpelican_*I could use it as an ARM dev device19:38
Superpelican_or load some modern Linux distro on it19:39
Superpelican_for other projects19:39
Superpelican_IMO Maemo is too outdated19:39
Superpelican_(I know I shouldn't be saying this on this channel ;) )19:39
Siceloheh, you can say anything you want19:40
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Superpelican_If I can load a recently up to date version of Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora or preferably openSUSE on it I can use it for anything I like19:40
Superpelican_for example as a remote19:40
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Sicelothat has been done many times19:41
Superpelican_then I can just load my Qt5 programs on it19:41
Superpelican_or easily install interpreters of other programming languages19:41
Sicelobut as you may imagine, there are many other frustrations in such attempts19:42
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Superpelican_or make a little web server of it :)19:42
Superpelican_that would be awesome19:42
Superpelican_just install node.js19:42
Superpelican_or ownCloud19:42
Superpelican_the possibilities are endless :)19:42
Superpelican_and I could use it for learning ARMv7 asm19:43
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Superpelican_It worked19:46
Superpelican_I know have a .ko :D19:47
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Superpelican_freemangordon: I've now got the omap_hsmmc.mod.o, omap_hsmmc.ko and omap_hsmmc.o19:50
Superpelican_how to do I safely unload the currently omap_hsmmc module and load the modified one?19:51
Superpelican_*how do I ...19:51
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Sicelomodprobe -r to remove/unload module19:53
Superpelican_but a mmc module is pretty essential isn't it?19:54
Superpelican_So won't I damage the mmc if I unload it at runtime?19:55
Superpelican_^ Sicelo19:57
Siceloof course not. it won't unload if 'busy'19:57
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Superpelican_ok :)19:58
Superpelican_but will it every unload then?19:58
Superpelican_Sicelo: unloading omap_hsmmc caused the N900 to suddenly turn off20:01
Superpelican_it's rebooting now20:01
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DocScrutinizer05I guess it's needed for eMMC as well20:05
Superpelican_ /etc/modules seems to be empty20:05
Superpelican_So how does it load omap_hsmmc at boottime?20:06
DocScrutinizer05just like every other module?20:06
DocScrutinizer05man depmod20:06
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Superpelican_DocScrutinizer05: Yes, but how do I stop it from loading and instead let my modified omap_hsmmc load at boot?20:07
DocScrutinizer05well, obviously you replace the original module by yours20:07
DocScrutinizer05then reboot and pray20:08
Superpelican_And how would I do that?20:08
Sicelosave it in /lib/modules :p20:09
DocScrutinizer05well, when the module lives in /lib/modules/*/* the you replace the file and run depmod -a20:09
Superpelican_And then reboot?20:09
DocScrutinizer05when it's monolithic (compiled into kernel) then you got a severe problem20:09
Siceloit comes from kernel-power-modules20:10
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DocScrutinizer05then just do what I said, replace original .ko by your version, run depmod -a and reboot and pray20:10
Siceloor kernel-moduels if on stock20:11
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DocScrutinizer05but better confirm from a second source, I'm not fluent in that stuff20:12
DocScrutinizer05and when you mess up, you might end up with a bootloop and will have to reflash or otherwise recover20:12
Superpelican_I'm using kernel-power 5220:13
DocScrutinizer05 /lib/modules/2.6.28-omap1/omap_hsmmc.ko20:13
Superpelican_so just replace that and reboot?20:13
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DocScrutinizer05is what I found on my system20:13
Siceloyou're on stock kernel DocScrutinizer0520:14
DocScrutinizer05so what?20:14
DocScrutinizer05[2014-02-15 19:09:15] <DocScrutinizer05> well, when the module lives in /lib/modules/*/* the you replace the file and run depmod -a20:14
Sicelohis path will be different20:14
DocScrutinizer05thus the wildcards20:15
Superpelican_Sicelo: yep, that's what I've got too20:15
DocScrutinizer05I guess everybody able to compile a kernel module understands what they mean, and what's the meaning of 2replace"20:15
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DocScrutinizer05you might want to keep the original version under omap_hsmmc.ko.old20:17
DocScrutinizer05so recovery will be easier20:17
SiceloSuperpelican_: you have to have flasher-3.5 handy before this dirty job, as well as the stock kernel saved on your pc.. just in case :p20:17
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DocScrutinizer05you also might want to keep a backup of /lib/modules/*/modules.dep20:18
trial`hi guys, best app for facebook on n900?20:18
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DocScrutinizer05since running depmod -a after restoring original kernel nodule (for recovery) might become a clumsy task20:19
DocScrutinizer05Sicelo: flasher plus stocj kernel will finally ruin the system, when he's running powerkernel now20:20
DocScrutinizer05only reasonable way to recover: either full rootfs reflash, or rescueOS to rename ~-backups back to *20:20
Sicelono. kp leaves stock kernel alone, in place. so you are still able to load stock in memory via flasher and hopefuly fix things20:21
DocScrutinizer05ooh! :-)20:21
Superpelican_well it just rebooted succesfully20:21
DocScrutinizer05(though obviously eating quite some spoace on rootfs)20:22
Sicelols -l /lib/modules/20:22
Sicelodrwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         7664 Sep  6  2012 2.6.28-omap120:22
Sicelodrwxr-xr-x    2 root     root        23744 Apr 13  2013
Sicelolrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           17 Apr 13  2013 current ->
Superpelican_so at least it's still one piece ;)20:22
DocScrutinizer05Superpelican_: modinfo omap_hsmmc20:23
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Superpelican_according to dmesg it recognized a SD card20:24
Superpelican_unfortunately it still doesn't show up in the file manager :(20:24
Superpelican_well maybe I have to manually mount it20:25
DocScrutinizer05are you sure it said "SD card"?20:25
Superpelican_it said MMC for 1 device20:25
Superpelican_and SD card for the 2nd20:25
DocScrutinizer05yep, that's OK then20:25
DocScrutinizer05well, for some reason mounting failed20:26
DocScrutinizer05check /dev/mmcblk1 (and 0, just to be sure)20:26
Superpelican_DocScrutinizer05: " 9018.130767] mmc1: new high speed MMC card at address 0001"20:26
Superpelican_and "[ 9017.930053] mmc0: new high speed SD card at address d32b"20:27
Superpelican_"[ 9017.931823] mmcblk1: mmc0:d32b SD01G 947 MiB"20:27
DocScrutinizer05yes, that's correect20:27
Superpelican_the SD card is 1 GB20:27
Superpelican_and "[ 9018.134124] mmcblk0: mmc1:0001 MMC32G 29.8 GiB"20:27
DocScrutinizer05and yes, that shows both cards got correctly renamed20:28
DocScrutinizer05err, wait20:28
Sicelodo you have a proper partition on the SD card?20:28
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DocScrutinizer05quite probably missing formatting20:28
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trial`guys, best app for facebook on n900?20:29
DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# blkid /dev/mmcblk1p120:29
DocScrutinizer05/dev/mmcblk1p1: UUID="4A7D-E054" TYPE="vfat"20:29
trial`plz suggest20:29
Sicelowe suggest nothing :p20:30
DocScrutinizer05blkid -g; blkid /dev/mmcblk1p120:31
Superpelican_blkid not found20:31
DocScrutinizer05are you root?20:31
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Superpelican_I am now20:31
Superpelican_it works20:31
Superpelican_"/dev/mmcblk1p1: SEC_TYPE="msdos" UUID="00BA-F74E" TYPE="vfat""20:31
DocScrutinizer05then you'll have a hard time messing around with modules, mounting, etc20:31
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Superpelican_only mmc1 is mounted in /media20:32
DocScrutinizer05well, that's OK20:32
DocScrutinizer05unless you have multiple useful partitions on your SD card20:33
DocScrutinizer05what else would you expect to see mounted there?20:34
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Superpelican_I succesfully mounted the SD card at /media/mmc220:34
Superpelican_I can see it with the CuteExplorer app20:34
DocScrutinizer05eMMC is mounted on a number of other mountpoints, but not /media20:34
Superpelican_well it is in /media on my N90020:35
DocScrutinizer05that's pretty much nonsense20:35
Superpelican_yes it is20:35
Superpelican_ /media/mmc1 is empty20:35
DocScrutinizer05eMMC should be on ~user/MyDocs20:35
Superpelican_yeah it is actually mounted at /home/user/MyDocs20:36
DocScrutinizer05and on /home20:36
Superpelican_but there is an empty mmc1 folder in /media20:36
Superpelican_sorry my terminology was incorrect20:36
Sicelosomething is wrong with your partitioning on the SD card. fix it20:36
DocScrutinizer05yeah, such empty mountpoint folders are not unusual20:36
Superpelican_it isn't actually mounted20:36
DocScrutinizer05for some reason automount failed20:36
DocScrutinizer05it should've mounted /dev/mmcblk1p1 to /media/mmc120:37
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DocScrutinizer05CSSU sometime arounf T6 or T7 augmented automounter to mount other partitions on SD card as well20:38
DocScrutinizer05and one version (available for a day or two) had it broken20:38
DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# ls -l /media/20:39
DocScrutinizer05insgesamt 1220:39
DocScrutinizer05drwxrwxrwx 12 user root 8192 1970-01-01 01:00 mmc120:39
DocScrutinizer05drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  160 2011-10-04 12:33 mmc1ext320:39
DocScrutinizer05drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 4096 2009-01-05 21:43 mmc1p220:39
DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# df -h /media/*20:40
DocScrutinizer05Dateisystem           Size  Used Avail Use% EingehÃĪngt auf20:40
DocScrutinizer05/dev/mmcblk1p1         14G   11G  4,0G  73% /media/mmc120:40
DocScrutinizer05ubi0:rootfs           228M  169M   56M  76% /20:40
DocScrutinizer05/dev/mmcblk1p2        845M  782M   20M  98% /media/mmc1p220:40
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DocScrutinizer05I think automounting is done by ke-recv20:43
DocScrutinizer05will give you a help printout20:44
Sicelowhat was your manual mount command?20:44
DocScrutinizer05cb - close battery cover signal20:44
DocScrutinizer05ob - open battery cover signal20:44
Superpelican_mount -t vfat /dev/mmcblk1p1 /media/mmc220:45
Superpelican_be sure to create /media/mmc2 first20:45
Superpelican_I have to leave now ;(20:45
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DocScrutinizer05why create mmc2 instead of using mmc1?20:46
DocScrutinizer05[2014-02-15 19:36:55] <DocScrutinizer05> for some reason automount failed20:48
DocScrutinizer05[2014-02-15 19:37:17] <DocScrutinizer05> it should've mounted /dev/mmcblk1p1 to /media/mmc120:48
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kerio~seen Pali21:50
infobotpali <~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 68d 1h 30m 36s ago, saying: 'ok'.21:50
kerioholy crap21:50
keriopali's dead D:21:50
kerioi bet it's lennart's fault21:51
Sicelohe's very active on mailing list at least21:54
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freemangordonkerio: I guess his laptop is still under repair21:55
freemangordonor maybe it is exams time now21:55
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Sicelopari42_: can't get a better connection? or a bouncer?22:46
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DocScrutinizer05hmm? join/part spam?23:25
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DocScrutinizer05GOD! almost forgot why I have enabled "ignore join/part/nick - unless user active during last 60 min"23:28
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DocScrutinizer05chanlog made me aware again23:28
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