IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2013-12-25

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DocScrutinizer05err, sounds aegis-specific00:10
DocScrutinizer05ooh, certificate manager cli00:11
DocScrutinizer05 MEH!00:18
DocScrutinizer05of *course* no manpages00:18
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HtheBplease read guys,
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sixwheeledbeastPart of the maemosec-certman-tools package?00:26
DocScrutinizer05sounds kinda correct00:26
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sixwheeledbeast:nod: that's it00:28
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DocScrutinizer05NFC how anybody is supposed to learn about even the existence of cmcli without any manpages00:33
DocScrutinizer05I guess freemangordon found it in gitorious when checking how a-gps and certs work00:33
sixwheeledbeastor didn't work as the case was00:34
FIQ<DocScrutinizer05> why the heck can random users edit random attachments? - sounds like a security vulnerability in the bugtracker, or that someone messed up access lists...00:38
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infobotrumour has it, ham is Hildon Application Manager.  Slow as molasses. Anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does00:58
FIQthat's an understatement00:58
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keriomerry christmas to whoever's in UTC+101:09
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kerio15 minutes ago01:14
DocScrutinizer05thanks, but... we use this phrase since ~12h01:14
keriobut it's only christmas now01:14
DocScrutinizer05not here01:15
DocScrutinizer05here we start xmas at 24th01:15
keriomerry christmas to whoever's in UTC+1 except for DocScrutinizer0501:15
merlin1991kerio: FTW01:16
merlin1991also yay christmas01:16
DocScrutinizer05may I exclude you from my "mery chrismas" that I posted 14h ago, then?01:17
kerioit's too late01:18
merlin1991there should be a similar thing to UGT for holidays01:18
infobotmerlin1991 meant: there should be a similar thing for UGT for holidays01:18
merlin1991actually v1 was correct01:18
keriomerlin1991: no, i *meant* to not give my salutations to other timezones01:19
keriofuck 'em01:19
kerioCET/CEST ftw01:19
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DocScrutinizer05I really wonder wtf is wrong with kerio01:25
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sixwheeledbeastIt's non-denominational winter festival day, BTW ;)01:32
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DocScrutinizer05yes, even been yesterday, in my CET TZ01:33
DocScrutinizer05and today, and tomorrow01:34
chainsawbikeexcept for the southern hemisphere - we just join in for the lols01:34
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DocScrutinizer05anyway re bugs.m.o I checked for 1h+ starting at and didn't find any setting that's possibly related to that weird attachment thing01:40
DocScrutinizer05maybe that's a feature, not a bug?01:41
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DocScrutinizer05or rather not?01:47
DocScrutinizer05validate_can_edit($attachment, $product_id)01:47
DocScrutinizer05Description: validates if the user is allowed to view and edit the attachment. Only the submitter or someone with editbugs privs can edit it. Only the submitter and users in the insider group can view private attachments.01:47
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DocScrutinizer05how the heck is an anonymous user supposed to have "editbugs privs"01:48
kerioDocScrutinizer05: 24th is christmas' eve, 25th is christmas01:52
DocScrutinizer05so what?01:53
keriomidnight is the turning point between the two01:53
freemangordonhmm, kind of polite conversation's going on here01:55
keriofreemangordon: merry christmas!01:55
DocScrutinizer05honestly I don't give a flying F, I just consider it rude to exclude people explicitly from "best wishes", particularly based on a misconception of local habits and customs01:55
freemangordonanyway, merry christmas guys01:55
DocScrutinizer05same to you, freemangordon01:55
freemangordonand heavy new year :P01:56
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DocScrutinizer05on something totally unrelated: I found a white LED with 20some Volt Vfwd02:00
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DocScrutinizer0512 of them in series and your circuitry to power that thing from mains gets amazingly simple02:01
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: do I read that right - you feed that LED with 20V?02:01
* freemangordon feels old :(02:02
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: any idea what technology is that? is that some ordinary 3-4V LEDs in series?02:03
freemangordonor something new?02:03
DocScrutinizer05can't think of anything else02:03
DocScrutinizer05SC^3 technology02:04
freemangordonwill check tomorrow, gtg now02:04
DocScrutinizer05Series Connected Chain of Chips?02:04
freemangordonnight guys02:04
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jaskai remember when blue leds were unobtainium :(02:10
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merlin1991i remember when my n900 was just some phone some finish guy showed me in england02:11
merlin1991now for something completely unrelated though, what's the api on maemo to look into callhistory and sms? I've never had to check so far02:12
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SAiFwhy do I see a rainbow color effect when I look at my screen with a polarised sunglass in a not so bright room?10:02
SAiFdont ask why would I do that. :)10:02
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SAiF Merry Christmas10:25
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DocScrutinizer05circular polarization?12:23
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infobotmooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo.12:35
DocScrutinizer05or ddate (though i bet that's missing in messybox)12:36
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jon_yDocScrutinizer05: circular antenna?12:54
jon_yiirc they were great to transmit direction/position12:54
sixwheeledbeastddate: not found12:55
sixwheeledbeastyep definitely missing12:55
jon_yisn't ddate from util-linux?12:57
DocScrutinizer05jon_y: I'm talking about the N900 LCD, it seems to use circular polarizers, at least when seen from the outside. I never wrapped my head around it but it seems each circular polarization filter is acting like a linear polirizer on one of the both sides and circular on the other12:58
jon_yinteresting, I tried my sunglasses on it12:59
jon_yit doesn not block out the LCD completely12:59
jon_yunlike usual LCD monitors13:00
DocScrutinizer05I had a cinema 3D goggles, and I of course cut them up and experimented with them. While *L|R* acted like normal linear polarizers, changing between 90° and 5% by rotataing the filters 90° relative to each other, the setum R*|*L had no dependency at all regarding orientation of the filters relative to each other13:01
ecc3gexperimenting with a pair of cinema goggles and camera CPLs, yes the cinema goggles I have are also CPLs...13:02
DocScrutinizer05thus re N900 LCD I guess they used circular polarizers with the linear side towards LC and the circular side outwards and visible13:03
DocScrutinizer05quite essential for a mobile device for outdoor use (where you might wear sunglasses and even have polarized light from sky), particularly when supposed to have both portrait and landscape mode13:04
ecc3gthat would make sense.  not sure why I never tested my CPL filters against my N900...13:05
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NeutrinoPowerI have a problem with writing permission on MyDocs or /MyDocs/DCIM  I can create dirs with xterm in /home/user/MyDocs/DCIM/ as user but when I want to take picture, the camera-app says, there is no memory17:59
NeutrinoPower/dev/mmcblk0p1 on /home/user/MyDocs type vfat (rw,noauto,nodev,noexec,nosuid,noatime,nodiratime,utf8,uid=29999,shortname=mixed,dmask=000,fmask=0133,rodir)17:59
NeutrinoPower"no acces to storage"18:01
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cehteh,rodir ?18:08
NeutrinoPowerI don't know why18:09
cehtehi dont even know that, but that might be the issue18:09
NeutrinoPowerhow can i remove this?18:10
cehtehi dont know that option   maybe -o remount,rwdir18:10
cehtehgoogle is your friend18:12
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ShadowJKNeutrinoPower: my guess would be filesystem corruption. the os has enconteted severe problems and as precaution blocked writing.19:46
ShadowJKthe most user friendly / easy option is probably connect with usb to pc in mass storage mode, and do check for errors in windows19:48
ShadowJKfsck in linux is of course also fine19:48
ShadowJKcopying files first is a good idea, in case the procedure makes things worse.19:49
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sixwheeledbeastAlso don't use stock fsck on maemo20:14
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DocScrutinizer05don't use any fsck on/in maemo, since fsck needs lots of RAM20:52
DocScrutinizer05and due to that, an fsck on maemo might take literally weeks to finish20:53
SAiFuMerry Christmas Doc20:54
DocScrutinizer05same to you :-)20:54
SAiFuXmas is over here. Its 26th in here.20:54
SAiFuhope you are still celebrating20:54
DocScrutinizer05tell that to kerio ;-)20:54
DocScrutinizer05we have two holiday days here: 25 & 2620:55
DocScrutinizer05and we actually treat 24 as a semi-holiday as well20:55
SAiFugo for a trip man, or go to beach20:55
DocScrutinizer05shops closing at noon and people wish "Merry Christmas"20:56
DocScrutinizer05next beach is like 800km away either direction, and I must say it's too cold for that20:56
SAiFugo with your friends .. not on 25th, but 26th20:57
SAiFuwhat abt trekking..20:57
SAiFuare there any nice forest in there?20:57
DocScrutinizer05well, kinda, yes20:58
SAiFuurban jungle?20:58
DocScrutinizer05yeah, we got some of that one20:58
DocScrutinizer05so it's pretty dead today20:58
SAiFudo something man.  Its the time to do stupid things.. 26th20:58
SAiFuare you too old to be stupid?21:01
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SAiFuwell you are wise enough to avoid my rather irrelevant questions.21:14
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kerioi wonder if dd-wrt supports usb networking22:30
DocScrutinizer05SAiFu: I'm doing the most stupid thing I could think of: sitting in front of my PC and IRCing in #maemo ;-P22:34
kerioaww, dd-wrt doesn't support usb networking :(22:38
keriodoesn't support my router22:46
SAiFumine too22:47
sixwheeledbeastIRC? Why are you not doing constructive research on 23Vdc LEDs ;)22:52
sixwheeledbeastoh wait they are discontinued :D22:54
DocScrutinizer05they are?22:59
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sixwheeledbeastNFC, it wouldn't surprise me tho.23:11
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