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Sysaxedis there any way to get 'beep' command to work? If I run it as user it says 'beep: can't open console' and if I run it under root there is no error but it does not make any sound06:49
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Sysaxedoh come on07:05
Sysaxedthere is espeak for text-to-speech but no beeper?07:05
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SysaxedI hope I did not miss the answer07:18
cehtehjust $espeak "beeb beep beep"07:20
Sysaxedumm :\07:28
Sysaxedespeak e07:29
Sysaxedoh! Here's the beep07:30
Sysaxedespeak 'de'07:30
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SiceloSysaxed: doesn't appear to be... i also needed it for irssi.. no luck07:36
SysaxedSicelo: yeah :\07:36
* Sicelo is planning to recompile irssi with perl support, after which one could get audible notifications using a script of some sort07:37
SysaxedSicelo: a script of some sort?07:39
Sysaxedlike what?07:39
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Siceloi have seen '' and' on irssi's site... seems that would 'intercept' beep requests and do some command you specify instead07:42
Siceloalas, n900's irssi doesn't do scripts ootb07:42
Siceloxchat has ssl issues :(07:43
Siceloand i did not like all the other available IRC clients.07:43
SysaxedSicelo: okay-okay, lets say you did that07:44
Sysaxedhow could you produce a beep sound anyway?07:45
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Sysaxedyou can play an audio file, yeah, but besides that?07:45
SysaxedI want to control frequency07:45
Sicelolol, no beep :p07:45
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infobotsomebody said maemo-flashing was
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sixwheeledbeastOh seems you can't do an alias with messybox, hmm, nvm12:31
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DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: playsound path/to/beep.wav14:27
sixwheeledbeastI thought the idea was to get the "beep" command to work?14:29
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DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: the beep command uses console's ISA-PC specific access to PC speaker via some gate A4711. N900 doesn't have a PC speaker nor that gate14:48
DocScrutinizer05or maybe it's not a gate but a IO addr14:49
DocScrutinizer05anyway N900 has no such digital beeper speaker, not even emulated in audiomixer chip14:50
DocScrutinizer05there's no other way but ALSA basically (or methods that exploit the ALSA soundcrads), to play a beep sound14:51
DocScrutinizer05cards, even14:51
DocScrutinizer05to be more specific, the beep is a special ioctl command in console, and console translates that into spftware "playback" a certain square wave pattern to a GPIO14:53
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DocScrutinizer05  >>On linux, there is a fourth badass method for beeping: unload the pcspkr module, load the snd-pcsp, and you now have a alsa soundcard that uses old-school tricks to actually feed digital sound to your internal speaker.<<15:01
DocScrutinizer05btw you *could* use sox as a extreme overkill replacement for beep binary15:05
DocScrutinizer05unlike beep sox will allow to define the *audio* device to use, to playback the beep sound. Apart from that is also has freq and duration afaik15:06
Wizzupsox is cool15:07
DocScrutinizer05For example, the following produces a 3 second, 48kHz, audio file containing a sine-wave swept from 300 to 3300 Hz:15:09
DocScrutinizer05                 sox -n output.wav synth 3 sine 300-330015:09
DocScrutinizer05Frequencies  can also be given in `scientific' note notation, or, by prefixing a `%' character, as a number of semitones relative to `middle A' (440 Hz).  For example, the15:10
DocScrutinizer05              following could be used to help tune a guitar's low `E' string:15:10
DocScrutinizer05                 play -n synth 4 pluck %-2915:10
DocScrutinizer05((play is an alias for sox))15:11
DocScrutinizer05              or with a (Bourne shell) loop, the whole guitar:15:11
DocScrutinizer05                 for n in E2 A2 D3 G3 B3 E4; do15:11
DocScrutinizer05                   play -n synth 4 pluck $n repeat 2; done15:12
sixwheeledbeasthmm, sox I'll look at that. I don't know what application Sysaxed was to use "beep" for.15:15
DocScrutinizer05however note that ALL these methods will NOT playback sound in your remote attached ssh session, but always on the machine you're logged into15:15
DocScrutinizer05audio is local to the machine the command gets executed on15:16
DocScrutinizer05not local to the terminal15:16
DocScrutinizer05though trivial, it's a often forgotten detail15:17
sixwheeledbeastI was just reading that on your link above15:18
DocScrutinizer05when you want to make irssi in your ssh session play a beep locally on your remote xterm, then you need to teach *xterm* to play some sound on ^G15:18
DocScrutinizer05I don't know of any maemo xterm or whatever terminal prog that supports this15:20
kerioit's probably easier to do that with a wrapper program, fwiw15:20
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kerioalso, am i the only one who wants his electronic devices to be completely silent?15:20
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DocScrutinizer05you mean sth like `beepwrapper ssh me@box irssi` ?15:21
keriosure, why not15:21
DocScrutinizer05sure, feasible15:21
sixwheeledbeastsilent? I like notifications to be audible but subtle.15:23
DocScrutinizer05beepwraper just had to filter for ^G and pipe through all other chars15:23
DocScrutinizer05nice headache-inducing exercise to write such wrapper in shellscript15:24
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DocScrutinizer05particularly since you don't want any buffers to delay output of each single char that comes in15:24
* DocScrutinizer05 waves after infobot15:25
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* DocScrutinizer05 waves to greet infobot15:27
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infobotDocScrutinizer: infobot joined!15:27
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kerioinfobot: hi!15:27
kerioinfobot: <315:27
infobotfrom memory, <3 is love15:27
kerioit is!15:28
infobot- Uptime for purl -15:28
infobotNow: 1m 26s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux15:28
infobot1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 201015:28
infobot2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 200915:28
infobot3: 36d 20h 47m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Aug  4 17:38:59 200915:28
SAiFinfobot in xmas mood?15:28
infobot'Twas the night before christmas, and all through the shack, not a creature was stirring, 'cept the skript kid, learning to hack. The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, as he sat at his computer cracking aware. The pornos were stacked all over his room, he knew nothing of his impending doom.15:29
DocScrutinizer05~factinfo xmas15:31
infobotxmas -- created by syz <> at Wed Jan 10 00:02:23 2001 (4729 days); it has been requested 5 times, last by sixwheeledbeast, 1m 38s ago.15:31
DocScrutinizer05thought as much, sounded old by diction15:31
sixwheeledbeast~factinfo christmas15:33
infoboterror: you do not have enough flags for that. (o required)15:33
infobotchristmas -- last modified at Sun Dec 29 12:44:17 2002 by Niffum!; it has been requested 12 times, last by sixwheeledbeast, 27s ago.15:33
DocScrutinizer05today this sounds like "... The socks at the chimney waited for crap, as he sat at his box and cracking an app. All the pr0n was scattered alover the room..."15:34
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* DocScrutinizer05 tries hard to come up with a non-lame joke about "doom"15:36
DocScrutinizer05~wiki doom215:36
infobotAt (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{Italic title}} {{Infobox VG |title = Doom II: Hell on Earth |image = |caption = The cover artwork for "Doom II: Hell on Earth", painted by fantasy artist Gerald Brom, depicts the "Doom" space marine firing a double-barreled shotgun at a Cyberdemon. |developer = id SoftwareNerve Software (XBLA) |publisher = GT Interactive (DOS)Activision (Game Boy Advance)Bethesda Softworks (Xbox Live ...15:36
DocScrutinizer05aaah cover artwork15:37
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DocScrutinizer05moin dos115:41
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* DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders if it's longer daylight than yesterday. Seems like :-)17:17
WizzupIsn't the longest day somewhere around 24?17:19
Wizzuper, night17:19
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DocScrutinizer05>>In the UK, the precise time of the solstice will be 5.11pm on Saturday December 21st 2013.<<17:26
freemangordonhmm, my sister's device has /home fs screwed up, should I flass eMMC as well?17:26
DocScrutinizer05so definitely today is longer than yesterday17:26
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: ^^^17:26
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: yes17:26
infobotmaemo-flashing is probably
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DocScrutinizer05anybody ever heard of ?17:29
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Sysaxeddoes anybody know why does 'espeak' work but 'flite' does not?19:08
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Sysaxedflite -t Test -o - | play-sound -19:14
Sysaxedflite version is too old, there's no way to choose any other voice19:17
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Sysaxedokay, and the only dependency is dpkg >= 1.15.419:27
Sysaxedand maemo has 1.14.2519:28
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Sysaxedflite-1.3-release October 200519:32
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Sysaxedhow can I install build-essential? says that it has no installation candidate19:46
Sysaxedand I have extras and extras-devel repos19:47
Sysaxedis there anything else that I'm missing?19:47
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hbib1I think you sadly can't just install build-essentials, but must install the so called scratchbox-environment.19:49
hbib1There are some tutorials out there how to do this on the n900 itself.19:50
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Sysaxedhm, that's weird19:56
Sysaxedactually I remember having build-essential installed on my phone some years ago19:57
SysaxedI'm not sure how I did that...19:57
hbib1maybe within debian chroot ?19:58
Sysaxedhm, I dont' know19:58
Sysaxedcan't I just add sdk repo and pull build-essential from it?19:59
int_uawait, I have build-essential on N900 right now20:00
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int_uaSysaxed, yeah, IIRC, you absolutely can20:00
Sysaxedint_ua: so that's how you did that?20:00
int_uajust watch out for rootfs space20:00
int_uaIIRC, yes20:01
Sysaxedokay, gonna try it out a bit later20:02
Sysaxedhave to go now20:02
Sysaxedthank you guys20:02
int_uaI'm trying to use valgrind to check ssh-status widget for memory leaks and I don't yet understand how to do it. Do I have to run valgrind on the whole hilgon-status-menu?20:03
int_uaSysaxed, you are welcome :)20:03
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merlin1991 status menu plugins and hildon-destkop widgets are libraries that are loaded into the processes20:04
merlin1991so yeah you do have to run the whole status menu in valgrind20:04
kerioworld's slowest status menu20:06
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DocScrutinizer05Sysaxed: you don't want nor can install all that's needed for building real stuff (not "hello world") in /20:54
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DocScrutinizer05that's why usually that stuff gets installed in a easydev chroot when for some strange reason somebody thinks it's inevitable for her/him to build on target platform20:55
int_uaDocScrutinizer05, what easydev chroot?21:02
freemangordonint_ua: BTW I have build newer valgring, the stock one doesn;t play nicely with thumb/neon instructions21:03
freemangordonI can provide it if you need it21:03
int_uafreemangordon, thanks, right now I'm in VM :)21:04
freemangordon(maybe will upload it to repos some day)21:04
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DocScrutinizer05ooops, easydeb21:06
DocScrutinizer05typo, sorry21:06
int_uafreemangordon, I wanted to build on the device once, but dev files are just too big. But still looking forward to see a newer version in repos. Appreciate this :)21:07
freemangordonint_ua: hmm, you can build in SB and run valgrind on the device itself21:08
freemangordonI mean... you only need -dbg packages installed21:08
freemangordonbut you can easy symlink /usr/lib/debug to a directory on the uSD card and avoid rottfs fill issues21:09
freemangordon*rootfs full21:09
freemangordonI don;t think running valgrind in SB against hildon-desktop or hildon-home makes much of a sense21:10
freemangordonmaybe I am wrong :)21:11
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ampharosMASS PANIC, iOS 7 JAILBREAK21:15
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int_uaampharos, not here.21:20
ampharosdoesn't matter there's riots on the streets and everyone's out for blood thanks to the chinese21:20
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fw190is it me or TMO is flooded with Jolla and Sailfish :)21:28
freemangordonit is, so what?21:28
freemangordonit was flooded with n9 by the time it went out21:29
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fw190freemangrdon: true21:36
DocScrutinizer05flooded tmo doesn't mean anything21:37
fw190but not much left of N90021:37
DocScrutinizer05except that I maybe should bump the neo900 thread ;-P21:37
fw190I'm a daily lurker and not much to read anymore21:37
DocScrutinizer05not much left?21:37
fw190this is the thread that needs to be bumped21:37
DocScrutinizer05does tmo auto-clean21:37
fw190well not much about N900 - new things I mean21:38
DocScrutinizer05I don't think a single post related to N900 vanished due to the flooding21:38
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DocScrutinizer05so what's the damage done? when you say "not much left" this implies there's something missing21:39
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DocScrutinizer05except n900 related threads on high ranks in "new posts" I can't see anything missing21:40
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fw190DocScrutinizer05: nah my bad - not native and not perfect with English - you are right21:41
fw190but you get my point I ope ;)21:41
fw190hope even21:41
DocScrutinizer05I don't think the activity in N900 related topics gone down since sailfish "flood"21:41
kerio~seen luf21:42
infobotluf <~luf@> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 13d 8h 50m 17s ago, saying: 'Because there is silence :D'.21:42
DocScrutinizer05maybe it's not as easy to see since it gets covered by more activity in sailfish related posts21:42
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fw190that it was I emant in the biginning21:44
DocScrutinizer05kerio: infobot has an cross-chan ciew of ~seen. it's not needed to post it in multiple channels21:44
kerioi figured after i typed that21:44
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DocScrutinizer05view even22:15
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