IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2013-11-19

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GattaNegra_freemangordon, we actually think we found the right place to comment00:53
GattaNegra_the power kernel 49 and 50 work with some module that can be downloaded over the internet00:55
GattaNegra_there is a good article in wiki how to compile own kernl00:55
GattaNegra_and as my transistor for the sensor is broken , only patching soldering or no sdcard at all are the solutions00:55
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GattaNegra_DocScrutinizer05 said something that I understood like ' not safe to use unknown modules over old kernel" so I will make a try to solder the transistor first, then if it does not do I will try patching the kernel00:57
GattaNegra_no sdcard for me at the moment00:57
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DocScrutinizer05GattaNegra_: you got me wrong, though the statement itself is not exactly incorrect00:59
DocScrutinizer05Wizzup: MHD is supporting hildon hotkeys01:00
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: oh yes, sysfs entry is also fine. Though I'd prefer a module parameter01:02
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GattaNegra_DocScrutinizer05 did I? I can not access history now, but what you said about dark magic (was it?) made me paranoid01:04
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DocScrutinizer05I didn't get what you did anyway. You said you got patched kernel module from somebody with only 2 posts?01:05
GattaNegra_a second01:06
DocScrutinizer05sorry, IRC is often missing context, so a tad hard to follow01:06
GattaNegra_english is not my 1st language01:06
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DocScrutinizer05GattaNegra_: I said KP49 is rather old and I don't know why it would allow access to uSD with open cover. Now I understand you downloaded a specially patched kernel module that disables the sensor. That's probably fine.01:10
DocScrutinizer05I further conclude that this module is only available for KP49?01:10
GattaNegra_i said i did but i am talking too much and what i say is unclear01:10
GattaNegra_so here01:10
GattaNegra_there is the module01:10
GattaNegra_the person has 2 posts only01:11
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GattaNegra_the module works01:11
GattaNegra_anyhow i am not using it as it is from Internet.. potentially dangerous01:11
DocScrutinizer05damn, blamk page here01:11
DocScrutinizer05now that's typically Nokia, going up two ( minus /page/2 ) and then clicking on page2 gives me same URL, just this time with content01:12
WizzupDocScrutinizer05: MHD?01:13
DocScrutinizer05modified hildon desktop, the HD used in CSSU btw01:13
Wizzupah, yes01:13
Wizzupso where can I find info about this api?01:13
infobotfrom memory, jrtools is
DocScrutinizer05has a link to the MHD original docs page01:13
GattaNegra_so now if i want to use the sdcard so much i will use that hack, but basically 32gb are pretty enough even for me01:14
GattaNegra_i am reluctant to start compiling now, as i need to try soldering first01:14
DocScrutinizer05>>I'll do some more kernel patch investigation work then.. and if I spot something, I might suggest it to Titan for incorporation into his overclocking uber kernel.. perhaps a system setting to assume the sensor is open / closed / automatic.. A little desktop widget might be handy too..<<01:15
GattaNegra_i found people with the needed skills01:15
DocScrutinizer05Titan been the original KP maintainer01:15
GattaNegra_i did not know that01:15
GattaNegra_but i do not want overclocking, just sd card01:16
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DocScrutinizer05howie99 however is unknown to me01:18
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DocScrutinizer05KP does not overclock by default, it just offers *possibility* to overclock01:20
GattaNegra_AHA THANKS01:20
DocScrutinizer05 is an excellent example why you should be careful with info from the internet, *always*01:24
DocScrutinizer05it's full of nonsense01:24
DocScrutinizer05actually nothing but nonsense01:25
DocScrutinizer05except the cleaning of the black area of the *optical* door tally01:26
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DocScrutinizer05which might actually make the cam dor IR sensor detect black as black again. No magnet involved though. and the whole sory completely unrelated to uSD card01:27
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Wizzupso I installed cssu-thumb from a fresh install (before installing power-kernel)01:52
Wizzupso now I have this cssu kernel, but I would like to install KP01:52
Wizzupthe instructions on make no sense anymore01:52
Wizzupsince the settings do not pull in the power-kernel-flasher anymore01:53
WizzupI guess because the cssu kernel statisfies the dep?01:53
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DocScrutinizer05Wizzup: cssu-thumb kernel is a normal KP01:59
Wizzupso installing the kp doesn't make sense?01:59
* Wizzup just did01:59
DocScrutinizer05your problem ;-P01:59
Wizzupwe'll see how badly is messes up, I guess01:59
DocScrutinizer05ask freemangordon if he just links to recent KP or actually copied it02:00
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Wizzupnow I has kernel at least02:02
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ludensjust flashed my n900 for the first time in many years07:05
ludensshould i get fapman or just stick to apt-get? does fapman work?07:05
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sixwheeledbeastludens: use neither09:59
infobotfapman is probably Faster Application Manager, a frontend for apt which uses own repositories catalog, and shouldn't be used to do system upgrades (like CSSU). It also does "apt-get autoremove" after every operation, by default. in short, it's deprecated09:59
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eddyb_oh ffs... I think my USB connector is starting to fail11:05
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Gatta_Negragood mornng11:30
Gatta_Negragod morning11:30
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eddyb_the force I have to put on the connector for it to work... it could easily snap :(12:34
MMN-oeddyb_: Open it up and put some hot-glue on it12:37
MMN-oAt least stabilises it somewhat from pushing too hard :)12:37
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eddyb_MMN-o: screws are already in bad shape from the last time I opened it (to replace the display flex)12:40
eddyb_MMN-o: but thanks anyway, I'll take a look at it whenever I get access to fine enough screwdrivers12:41
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eddyb_MMN-o: oh fuck, this means I can't charge it :(12:48
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vi__MCE...has been reversed???12:52
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vi__Someone buy jonwil a pizza!12:52
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sixwheeledbeastI wouldn't use glue to repair the uUSB.15:22
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DocScrutinizer05MMN-o: please don't suggest to use glue on USB16:16
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infobotusbfix is, like, - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater)16:17
DocScrutinizer05hot glue even more useless16:17
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vi__You have to solder the plug down to the ground plane.16:18
DocScrutinizer05only working fix16:19
vi__like they should have done at the factory.16:19
vi__nokia noobs.16:19
DocScrutinizer05well, they failed at thinking about it. In justice for Nokia I have to note that this has to be done manually16:20
vi__so reversed MCE.16:21
vi__What is the implications of this?16:21
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DocScrutinizer05I think it's fine16:36
DocScrutinizer05and I know why I say that since I helped quite a bit with that RE16:37
DocScrutinizer05so I know how we got there, and I know about the quality of the work16:37
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anYcI assume he meant benefits17:21
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deepycan I sync my calendar with Google calendar?19:24
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aapo_rantalainenfreemangordon; You invited me to discuss something related python2.7 and autobuilder.20:35
freemangordon_aapo_rantalainen: hi!20:35
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freemangordon_aapo_rantalainen: there is some versioning problem with python 2.720:35
freemangordon_for some reason the package interface *thinks* that maemo3 version is highest20:36
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freemangordon_and purges newer versions20:36
freemangordon_the obvious solution is to delete all version before 5, but I wanted you to agree on that20:37
freemangordon_and to upload the source in the autobuiler to test if that fixes the problem20:37
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freemangordon_aapo_rantalainen: and please, disable all tests when uploading to autobuilder, this is where the build hangs20:38
freemangordon_the last build hanged on "/scratchbox/tools/bin/make run_profile_task"20:38
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aapo_rantalainenfreemangordon. I know the problem is about test/profiling and so on. I have tried to disable everything.20:39
aapo_rantalainenActually I pushed -maemo8 with dropped run_profile_task20:39
freemangordonaapo_rantalainen: ok, but what about old packages, are you ok for me to leave only maemo5 in the repos?20:40
aapo_rantalainenThat's fine.20:41
freemangordonok, I'll do it, hopefully before maemo8 got build, otherwise it will be cleaned in the same way as -maemo620:41
aapo_rantalainenIt is so eager to clean the repo?20:42
freemangordonit is a cron job :)20:42
aapo_rantalainenIs it using version number or some timestamp to decise which is highest?20:43
freemangordonit uses version number, but epoch and strange chars confuse it20:44
aapo_rantalainenI'm afraid I have lost debian/changelog which even has that -maemo3 entry. I didn't even push it to git:
freemangordonok, removed all -maem3 packages, lets see20:49
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aapo_rantalainenGreat, thanks. Yes, let see what happens then with -maemo8.20:50
freemangordonhmm, seems autobuilder is stuck :(20:50
aapo_rantalainenIs it again my package?20:50
freemangordongoing to ckech20:50
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aapo_rantalainenI have tested locally it wont run tests or profiling, but then there could be still some autogenerated setups which works once, but not on second time.20:51
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freemangordonaapo_rantalainen: it was not your package20:58
freemangordonmaemo8 is building now20:59
aapo_rantalainenfreemangordon: good. If python2.7 get stuck you can kill it. I will ask situation on friday if it is not built.21:00
freemangordonaapo_rantalainen: ok21:01
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freemangordonaapo_rantalainen: on the side note -
freemangordonah, you already thanked :)21:05
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DocScrutinizer05bot disaster recovery23:42
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