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kolpHm, does the N9 have cherry, or something cherry-like?02:11
DocScrutinizer05hmm, good question02:11
DocScrutinizer05actually I think it does02:11
kolpI just revived a b0rked N9, and am wondering if I should feed it a SIM02:12
DocScrutinizer05since neither maps nor guidance nor a few other services work without you registering some crappy account02:12
DocScrutinizer05it however might not rely on SIM anymore02:13
kolpIt has no wifi yet, either :)02:13
DocScrutinizer05I think they now got better means to 100% identify a device (aegis)02:13
kolpI guess I have some reading up to do before letting the device out into the wild02:15
DocScrutinizer05anyway since thanks to aegis you can't tamper with any cherry-like crap at all, you shouldn't probably worry. either get over it or bin the device02:15
RiDsend it to me would ya?02:16
kolpIt's not mine to give away :)02:17
RiDoh :(02:17
kolpJust reflashed it for its owner02:17
kolpThe UI seems a bit inconsistent02:21
M4rtinKthey'll probably soon announce that any cherry like service for MeeGo will be discontinued from the 1.1.2014 :D02:22
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kolpIt's quite a sign when one doesn't feel comfortable inserting a SIM or connecting a device to the intarwebs...02:26
kolpI know why I love and prefer the N900...02:26
RiDN900 makes you send an sms when you install pr 1.302:27
RiD"makes you send" / sends*02:27
kolpYes, but at least that's a well-known 'feature' and there's a more or less easy way to disable that02:28
RiDhm, how to disable?02:29
ecc3gall nokia phones send a SMS home upon first startup?02:29
ecc3gmy 5230 symbian did it too, I forget what my n900 did02:30
kolpapt-get remove cherry02:30
RiDit's called cherry? lol02:31
ecc3gat least my data plan doesn't charge for sms... but phoning home is annoying02:31
kolpWell, I believe it's none of a mobile phone manufacturer business to know where their phones end up and who is using them02:33
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ecc3gyeah and technically mobile phone service providers shouldn't need to know either, but unfortunately they have to... heh02:38
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, jrtools is
DocScrutinizer05fmc is dead, yeah02:39
DocScrutinizer05afaik02:39 fail. gna02:43
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divVerentdoes the N900 support 64G SD cards?06:27
robbiethe1stWhy *wouldn't* it?06:28
divVerenti read that at least many android tablets accept them even if the manufacture says 32G06:28
divVerentnokia said so, that is why06:28
divVerentbut for many devices the only issue is lack of exFAT support06:29
divVerentso one has to reformat the card as something else and it works06:29
robbiethe1stSo, reformat it to ext3. Or just use standard fat06:29
divVerentjust want to know if anyone tried with the N90006:30
robbiethe1stYour google-fu is weak, my friend.06:30
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divVerentah cool, so the controller supports it06:31
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psycho_oreosSome things are best worth asking google for. :)06:46
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DocScrutinizer05Nokia said "16GB" iirc06:57
DocScrutinizer0532GB evidently work06:57
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DocScrutinizer05I heard 64 do as well, you shouldn't use >30GB VFAT partitions though06:58
DocScrutinizer05or so I heard06:58
DocScrutinizer05anyway controller won't support the new sdxc(?) interface, but when the card has a sdhc compatibility mode (which afaik is mandatory) then it should work06:59
DocScrutinizer05all this could as well be some delusion since it's late here#07:00
psycho_oreosAs far as I know, 64GB cards are supported they come pre-formatted as exfat which is not supported by maemo. The use of vfat for large "device blocks" should die honestly (imo).07:02
psycho_oreosI sort of wonder if and when 128GB microSDXC cards come out, will they be supported? :)07:04
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keriomh, does linux support exfat?09:05
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psycho_oreoskerio, It's supported via fuse-exfat.
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Palikerio: there is also native kernel exfat driver released by samsung under gpl09:53
XATRIXHow can i delete duplicate entries from my calendar ?10:02
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LLckfanDoes any1 know how to get a stale house smell out of a clean house without opening windows as fresh air is of no help?12:32
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ShadowJKLLckfan; vaccuum clean the house, turn on the heating (or A/c in dehum mode if the climate is more appropriate), vaccuum again, wash floors with warm water and a detergent12:47
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LLckfanDone that12:49
DocScrutinizer05ozone and hard UV12:51
ShadowJKplan B, have a bbq party12:51
DocScrutinizer05get the hard UV and O3 comes for free12:52
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DocScrutinizer05200W HQI with outer glas (with phosphoer) broken works fine12:53
DocScrutinizer05you better leave the room12:53
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DocScrutinizer05a few hours per room should suffice12:54
* ShadowJK wonders if tesla coil produces O312:54
DocScrutinizer05but no UV12:54
DocScrutinizer05UV works great for destroying aromatic molecules, particularly with titanoxide in the wall painting as catalysator12:56
DocScrutinizer05the ozone will take care of the more solic substances hiding from direct UV light in some pores and crackles12:57
LLckfanNo room to have a party12:57
psycho_oreosYou again.. seriously, how is your question related to #maemo in any particular way?13:00
DocScrutinizer05if you can't find a HQI to break open, you can also use lots of CFL13:00
DocScrutinizer05but HQI or one of those works better13:01
DocScrutinizer05or use HQL, cheaper than HQI13:06
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DocScrutinizer05ultimate smell (and eye, skin, lung) killer, when outer glas removed13:17
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DocScrutinizer05for optimum effect close all doors and windows13:20
DocScrutinizer05operate for 2h, then shut off and open windows13:20
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DrCodehi all14:58
DrCodeI can't install cssu14:58
DrCodeIt say it installed but cssu feture give FATEL ERROR14:58
DrCodewait, I think I found my problem14:59
DrCodeI will be back for update14:59
sixwheeledbeastyou will have to provide more information for #maemo to help.15:00
sixwheeledbeastDocScrutinizer05: been thinking about the 2K resistor on the AV, how can the device distinguish between headphones, headset or AV. Surely the 2K resistor will make the device think headset connected and not headphones?15:02
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DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast: yes, though no 100% warranty for the value, maybe 1kR maybe even 500R20:00
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SAiFDocScrutinizer05, would you please include link to flash player 12 in jrtools, as I couldnt find a working link. last time you gave me that link, but I lost it due to an unexpected reflash20:41
DocScrutinizer05we're opening donation/preorder(/crowdfunding) in 1 or 2 weeks20:41
DocScrutinizer05SAiF: I'll put it on my todo list. right now I wouldn't know where to get it from, prolly one of my bookmarks to tmo20:43
DocScrutinizer05(Neo900) we will probably go for a ID extension, an additional plastic spacer ring that lifts the kbd and LCD by 2.8mm20:44
SAiFokay, now I know where to look for when i need it.20:45
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: why?20:45
DocScrutinizer05sorry for that, but it is needed since we have not enough space for the option module which is ~20* the volume of the BB520:45
DocScrutinizer05on the bright side we don't need to switch to micro-SIM then20:46
freemangordonwell, IMO it is better to switch to microsim and keep the height, n900 is thick enough20:47
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: N900 PPCB is already crammed with stuff, and BB5 is ~10*10*1.1mm, Option is 29*37*2.1mm20:49
freemangordongo for bb5 then20:49
DocScrutinizer05sure the BB5 has some additional smaller birdseed as well, but still...20:50
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: jokes aside, this would be a dealbreaker for lots of people iiuc20:51
SAiFwas that a joke?20:51
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: bb5 would be a dealbreaker for 95% of potential customers of Neo90020:57
DocScrutinizer05it's only 3G, it's not open. And all that aside it's not available. And even if it was, we'd need per-device RF calibration that needs a lab with 500k$ equipment, and model cert which costs maybe 50k$20:59
freemangordonhmm, yeah, RF20:59
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freemangordonbut 3mm thicker n900 would be a real brick20:59
DocScrutinizer05hey, you get dual-SIM ;-)21:00
DocScrutinizer05on a LTE modem21:00
DocScrutinizer052.5mm, not 3mm21:00
freemangordonI'd say - put that on the thread, lets see21:00
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: how's about OMAP5 and fremantle?21:03
freemangordonno idea21:04
DocScrutinizer05could you evaluate?21:04
DocScrutinizer05check the omap5 TRM21:04
DocScrutinizer05compare what's different21:04
freemangordonyeah, right :D21:04
freemangordonbtw with right kernel it should be fine21:05
DocScrutinizer05dual-core, would that work with kernel? etc pp21:05
freemangordonwhat has maemo to do with the number of cores?21:05
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DocScrutinizer05is it actually thread-safe everywhere?21:06
freemangordonshould be21:06
freemangordonthis is linux after all21:07
DocScrutinizer05but nevermind, I guess the omap5 sidenote of Nikolaus been a joke21:08
cybrNautDocScrutinizer05: what's dual-sim?  the n900?21:14
DocScrutinizer05the Neo900 with Option801 module21:15
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DocScrutinizer05btw the Option801 GPS is a dual-mode-GPS that uses both the american GPS and the GLONASS SVs (aka sats)21:33
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HtheBanyone alive? :)22:16
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dos1HtheB: I think I'd need some caffeine in order to correctly answer your question, as I'm not sure about my own current state :)22:24
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