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| kolp | Hm, does the N9 have cherry, or something cherry-like? | 02:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, good question | 02:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually I think it does | 02:11 |
| kolp | I just revived a b0rked N9, and am wondering if I should feed it a SIM | 02:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since neither maps nor guidance nor a few other services work without you registering some crappy account | 02:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it however might not rely on SIM anymore | 02:13 |
| kolp | It has no wifi yet, either :) | 02:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think they now got better means to 100% identify a device (aegis) | 02:13 |
| kolp | I guess I have some reading up to do before letting the device out into the wild | 02:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway since thanks to aegis you can't tamper with any cherry-like crap at all, you shouldn't probably worry. either get over it or bin the device | 02:15 |
| RiD | send it to me would ya? | 02:16 |
| kolp | It's not mine to give away :) | 02:17 |
| RiD | oh :( | 02:17 |
| kolp | Just reflashed it for its owner | 02:17 |
| kolp | The UI seems a bit inconsistent | 02:21 |
| M4rtinK | they'll probably soon announce that any cherry like service for MeeGo will be discontinued from the 1.1.2014 :D | 02:22 |
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| kolp | It's quite a sign when one doesn't feel comfortable inserting a SIM or connecting a device to the intarwebs... | 02:26 |
| kolp | I know why I love and prefer the N900... | 02:26 |
| RiD | N900 makes you send an sms when you install pr 1.3 | 02:27 |
| RiD | "makes you send" / sends* | 02:27 |
| kolp | Yes, but at least that's a well-known 'feature' and there's a more or less easy way to disable that | 02:28 |
| RiD | hm, how to disable? | 02:29 |
| ecc3g | all nokia phones send a SMS home upon first startup? | 02:29 |
| RiD | no? | 02:30 |
| ecc3g | my 5230 symbian did it too, I forget what my n900 did | 02:30 |
| kolp | apt-get remove cherry | 02:30 |
| RiD | it's called cherry? lol | 02:31 |
| ecc3g | at least my data plan doesn't charge for sms... but phoning home is annoying | 02:31 |
| kolp | Well, I believe it's none of a mobile phone manufacturer business to know where their phones end up and who is using them | 02:33 |
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| kolp | forum.meego.com is dead? | 02:37 |
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| ecc3g | yeah and technically mobile phone service providers shouldn't need to know either, but unfortunately they have to... heh | 02:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~cherry | 02:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | grrr | 02:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools | 02:38 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools | 02:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fmc is dead, yeah | 02:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | afaik | 02:39 |
| kolp | archive.org fail. gna | 02:43 |
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| divVerent | does the N900 support 64G SD cards? | 06:27 |
| robbiethe1st | Why *wouldn't* it? | 06:28 |
| divVerent | i read that at least many android tablets accept them even if the manufacture says 32G | 06:28 |
| divVerent | nokia said so, that is why | 06:28 |
| divVerent | but for many devices the only issue is lack of exFAT support | 06:29 |
| divVerent | so one has to reformat the card as something else and it works | 06:29 |
| robbiethe1st | So, reformat it to ext3. Or just use standard fat | 06:29 |
| divVerent | yes | 06:29 |
| robbiethe1st | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72864&page=2 | 06:30 |
| divVerent | just want to know if anyone tried with the N900 | 06:30 |
| robbiethe1st | Your google-fu is weak, my friend. | 06:30 |
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| divVerent | ah cool, so the controller supports it | 06:31 |
| divVerent | thanks | 06:31 |
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| psycho_oreos | Some things are best worth asking google for. :) | 06:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Nokia said "16GB" iirc | 06:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 32GB evidently work | 06:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I heard 64 do as well, you shouldn't use >30GB VFAT partitions though | 06:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or so I heard | 06:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway controller won't support the new sdxc(?) interface, but when the card has a sdhc compatibility mode (which afaik is mandatory) then it should work | 06:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | all this could as well be some delusion since it's late here# | 07:00 |
| psycho_oreos | As far as I know, 64GB cards are supported they come pre-formatted as exfat which is not supported by maemo. The use of vfat for large "device blocks" should die honestly (imo). | 07:02 |
| psycho_oreos | I sort of wonder if and when 128GB microSDXC cards come out, will they be supported? :) | 07:04 |
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| kerio | mh, does linux support exfat? | 09:05 |
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| psycho_oreos | kerio, It's supported via fuse-exfat. http://code.google.com/p/exfat/ | 09:27 |
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| Pali | kerio: there is also native kernel exfat driver released by samsung under gpl | 09:53 |
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| LLckfan | Does any1 know how to get a stale house smell out of a clean house without opening windows as fresh air is of no help? | 12:32 |
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| ShadowJK | LLckfan; vaccuum clean the house, turn on the heating (or A/c in dehum mode if the climate is more appropriate), vaccuum again, wash floors with warm water and a detergent | 12:47 |
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| LLckfan | Done that | 12:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ozone and hard UV | 12:51 |
| ShadowJK | plan B, have a bbq party | 12:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | get the hard UV and O3 comes for free | 12:52 |
| ShadowJK | indoors | 12:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | 200W HQI with outer glas (with phosphoer) broken works fine | 12:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you better leave the room | 12:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | a few hours per room should suffice | 12:54 |
| * ShadowJK wonders if tesla coil produces O3 | 12:54 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure | 12:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but no UV | 12:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | UV works great for destroying aromatic molecules, particularly with titanoxide in the wall painting as catalysator | 12:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the ozone will take care of the more solic substances hiding from direct UV light in some pores and crackles | 12:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | solid* | 12:57 |
| LLckfan | No room to have a party | 12:57 |
| psycho_oreos | You again.. seriously, how is your question related to #maemo in any particular way? | 13:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if you can't find a HQI to break open, you can also use lots of CFL | 13:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but HQI or one of those http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Hoehensonne.jpg/220px-Hoehensonne.jpg works better | 13:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or use HQL, cheaper than HQI | 13:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.leuchtmittelmarkt.com/leuchtmittel179411_2.html | 13:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.dimmer.de/shopping/ar-VG-SP400H.htm | 13:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ultimate smell (and eye, skin, lung) killer, when outer glas removed | 13:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | for optimum effect close all doors and windows | 13:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | operate for 2h, then shut off and open windows | 13:20 |
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| DrCode | hi all | 14:58 |
| DrCode | I can't install cssu | 14:58 |
| DrCode | It say it installed but cssu feture give FATEL ERROR | 14:58 |
| DrCode | wait, I think I found my problem | 14:59 |
| DrCode | I will be back for update | 14:59 |
| sixwheeledbeast | you will have to provide more information for #maemo to help. | 15:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | DocScrutinizer05: been thinking about the 2K resistor on the AV, how can the device distinguish between headphones, headset or AV. Surely the 2K resistor will make the device think headset connected and not headphones? | 15:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sixwheeledbeast: yes, though no 100% warranty for the value, maybe 1kR maybe even 500R | 20:00 |
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| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/09/nokia_shuts_symbian_meego_stores_early/ | 20:02 |
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| jaska | "nokia" | 20:29 |
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| Apic | "M$" | 20:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | GolDeliCo! | 20:41 |
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| SAiF | DocScrutinizer05, would you please include link to flash player 12 in jrtools, as I couldnt find a working link. last time you gave me that link, but I lost it due to an unexpected reflash | 20:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we're opening donation/preorder(/crowdfunding) in 1 or 2 weeks | 20:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SAiF: I'll put it on my todo list. right now I wouldn't know where to get it from, prolly one of my bookmarks to tmo | 20:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (Neo900) we will probably go for a ID extension, an additional plastic spacer ring that lifts the kbd and LCD by 2.8mm | 20:44 |
| SAiF | okay, now I know where to look for when i need it. | 20:45 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: why? | 20:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry for that, but it is needed since we have not enough space for the option module which is ~20* the volume of the BB5 | 20:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on the bright side we don't need to switch to micro-SIM then | 20:46 |
| freemangordon | well, IMO it is better to switch to microsim and keep the height, n900 is thick enough | 20:47 |
| kolp | 2.8mm? | 20:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: N900 PPCB is already crammed with stuff, and BB5 is ~10*10*1.1mm, Option is 29*37*2.1mm | 20:49 |
| freemangordon | go for bb5 then | 20:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure the BB5 has some additional smaller birdseed as well, but still... | 20:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | HAHAHAHA | 20:50 |
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| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: jokes aside, this would be a dealbreaker for lots of people iiuc | 20:51 |
| SAiF | was that a joke? | 20:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: bb5 would be a dealbreaker for 95% of potential customers of Neo900 | 20:57 |
| freemangordon | why? | 20:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's only 3G, it's not open. And all that aside it's not available. And even if it was, we'd need per-device RF calibration that needs a lab with 500k$ equipment, and model cert which costs maybe 50k$ | 20:59 |
| freemangordon | hmm, yeah, RF | 20:59 |
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| freemangordon | but 3mm thicker n900 would be a real brick | 20:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hey, you get dual-SIM ;-) | 21:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on a LTE modem | 21:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 2.5mm, not 3mm | 21:00 |
| freemangordon | I'd say - put that on the thread, lets see | 21:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: how's about OMAP5 and fremantle? | 21:03 |
| freemangordon | no idea | 21:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | could you evaluate? | 21:04 |
| freemangordon | how? | 21:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | check the omap5 TRM | 21:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | compare what's different | 21:04 |
| freemangordon | yeah, right :D | 21:04 |
| freemangordon | btw with right kernel it should be fine | 21:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dual-core, would that work with kernel? etc pp | 21:05 |
| freemangordon | what has maemo to do with the number of cores? | 21:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | dunno | 21:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | is it actually thread-safe everywhere? | 21:06 |
| freemangordon | should be | 21:06 |
| freemangordon | this is linux after all | 21:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but nevermind, I guess the omap5 sidenote of Nikolaus been a joke | 21:08 |
| cybrNaut | DocScrutinizer05: what's dual-sim? the n900? | 21:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the Neo900 with Option801 module | 21:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | btw the Option801 GPS is a dual-mode-GPS that uses both the american GPS and the GLONASS SVs (aka sats) | 21:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 21:34 |
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| HtheB | anyone alive? :) | 22:16 |
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| dos1 | HtheB: I think I'd need some caffeine in order to correctly answer your question, as I'm not sure about my own current state :) | 22:24 |
| HtheB | :D | 22:25 |
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