IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2013-09-24

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sixwheeledbeastwotan147: I am guessing it is failing to remove the build-stamp found in the clean section of debian/rules01:16
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sixwheeledbeastyou should copy the foopackage dir into scratchbox enviro and run "dpkg-buildpackage -sa -rfakeroot" in scratchbox as ARMEL on that folder. If the all the contains debian folder is ok it should build.01:19
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DocScrutinizer51yep that sounds correct01:20
sixwheeledbeastIt appears you are offline but hopefully someone will point you to the logs on your next appearance....01:20
sixwheeledbeastEven if it doesn't build you will get some sane error in scratchbox that you can work from, most probably debian/rules or debian/control file issues.01:22
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M4rtinKany commands for checking if the N900 is connected to the Internet ?02:22
M4rtinKI've checked phone control -
M4rtinKbut it has only enable, disable & state change callback02:23
M4rtinKnot checking of current state02:23
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r00t|home$ awk 'BEGIN{f=1} ($2=="00000000" && $8 == "00000000"){f=0} END{exit f}' /proc/net/route && echo online02:31
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M4rtinKr00t|home: well, that's indeed a possibility :)02:34
M4rtinKI expected something icd/icd2 related, but this looks like it would do too :)02:34
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r00t|homeit's also more portable ;)02:35
M4rtinKr00t|home: BTW, is awk on the N900 by default ?02:35
r00t|homeno idea about the icd stuff02:35
r00t|homeawk is in better busyboxes02:35
M4rtinKr00t|home: OK, I think I'll go with this one :)02:36
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r00t|homeNokia-N900:~# dpkg -S $(which awk)02:36
r00t|homebusybox: /usr/bin/awk02:36
r00t|homenote lack of -power02:36
M4rtinKnice, that indeed looks like built-in02:37
M4rtinKalso good point about portability02:37
M4rtinKwell, awk should be probably available almost anywhere02:37
r00t|homeofcourse it won't work if the device _believes_ is is online, but the connection is not actually working ;)02:38
M4rtinKr00t|home: hh :)02:38
r00t|homealso doesn't work in dial-on-demand setups02:38
M4rtinKsure, that might be an issue02:38
r00t|homebut i guess n900 handles that through some api calls, and not on routing level02:39
r00t|homealso, depending on use case it might be better parse the file in shell directly02:40
r00t|homeNokia-N900:~# o= ; while read if dest gw f x x x mask x x x ;do [ "$dest" = 00000000 ] && [ $mask = 00000000 ] && o=1 ; done </proc/net/route ; [ "$o" ] && echo online02:43
M4rtinKwell, I need to run the check from Python02:43
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M4rtinKsure, good point :)02:44
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M4rtinKr00t|home: seems to be working :)03:23
infobotrumour has it, maemo-flashing is
DocScrutinizer05fsck libusb0.1.403:28
DocScrutinizer05at least the wiki instructions work03:32
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M4rtinKr00t|home: so thanks a lot ! :)03:34
M4rtinKr00t|home: BTW, this is how it looks like in the end:
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DocScrutinizer05r00t|home: wtf, what a cmdline?!04:05
DocScrutinizer05[ "$o" ] &&     really?04:06
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DocScrutinizer05I just realized what friggin PITA it must be for linux-inept users to reflash their device04:18
r00t|homeDocScrutinizer05: that tests if $o is empty...04:19
r00t|homeor rather, not empty04:19
DocScrutinizer05flasher-3.5 refused to work on my system due to 64bit libusb, then I had to blacklist phonet, then it refused to flash and I had to ^C and restart flasher to make it finally go thru ... after it failed halfway first tinme for unknown reasons04:20
DocScrutinizer05r00t|home: I know shellscript a bit, but that's really obfuscated stuff04:21
r00t|home$ help test04:21
r00t|home      -n STRING04:21
r00t|home         STRING      True if string is not empty.04:21
DocScrutinizer05you didn't test for -n04:21
r00t|homesee the second line04:21
r00t|homeyou can omit the -n04:21
DocScrutinizer05yeah, like I said, maximum obfuscated ;-D04:22
r00t|homeit's all rather natural to me... but then i've been doing bash for half a decade04:22
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r00t|homemost people write utter nonsense like [ x$o = x ]04:22
DocScrutinizer05has some rationale04:22
r00t|home(you need to quote the variable, because during parsing the empty string is just skipped over otherwise, and you end up with [ ] which is a syntax error04:23
r00t|homepeople who don't know quoting use the x=x variant04:23
r00t|home(it still breaks if the variable contains spaces)04:23
DocScrutinizer05well, I sometimes use x$A == xBLABLA04:24
r00t|homeuse quotes instead and omit the x :P04:24
DocScrutinizer05err s/==/=/04:24
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r00t|homeyou can also use [[ instead of [ , which behaves much nicer, but it's only available in bash, not plain sh like busybox04:25
DocScrutinizer05I think under certain circumstances even quoting with " fails04:25
DocScrutinizer05e.g. when your $var is '"'04:26
r00t|homequoting with " "fails" on exclamation points in interactive mode, because history exapnsion is for silly reasons allowed inside quotes04:26
r00t|homeelse it always works04:26
r00t|homesome characters are still special inside ", like \ or $04:26
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r00t|homebut special chars in variable contents are no problem when the expansion is quoted04:27
DocScrutinizer05yeah, I'm doing shellscripts since ~15 years now, though only occasionally04:27
r00t|homei do way too much shell for unknown reasons...04:27
r00t|homei guess the reason is it's always right at my fingertips when i have a shell open04:27
r00t|homei liked that with basic back on my '6404:28
r00t|homeyou just start coding _right_there_, then copy it into a program/script file later04:29
DocScrutinizer05funny enough, a colleague said "wowo, I never knew what you can do in shellscript" when reading
r00t|homebit operations?04:34
r00t|homei didn't know bash can do binary... only hex and octal :D04:34
r00t|homeone thing bash can NOT do is store arbitary binary data in variables... at least 0-bytes break it...04:36
dos1shouldn't quoting with ' fix all problems with special chars inside " ?04:37
r00t|homedos1: sure, but it does not allow for variable expansion04:37
r00t|homedos1: if you do it the "right" way, you're constantly switching quoting mode inside strings, which isn't beautiful either04:37
r00t|homeecho 'hello '"$world"'!'04:38
dos1oh, i see04:38
dos1in [ x$o = x ] context ' sure won't work04:38
r00t|homebut " works fine there04:39
DocScrutinizer05dos1: I'm about to clean the device for Nikolaus04:40
r00t|homeor you use [[, which does not need quotes at all, because it's a shell syntax construct and not a command, so normal quoting rules do not apply04:40
DocScrutinizer05add a FPC of the 3 pcs I received today, some GTA bare bones housing and GPS active antennae04:40
DocScrutinizer05dos1: nikolaus maybe found a matching 1GB-RAM PoP, alas without NAND04:42
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DocScrutinizer05r00t|home: pun question: what type of command is   ']'04:44
DocScrutinizer05saturn:/var/log # which ]04:45
DocScrutinizer05which: no ] in (/usr/lib64/mpi/gcc/openmpi/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin:/root/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/opt/kde3/bin)04:45
dos1DocScrutinizer05: nice!04:45
dos1DocScrutinizer05: what are the adventages of running os from separate nand insead of emmc? bandwidth?04:48
ShadowJKubifs on nand should be faster than ext3-on-emmc for small writes (common to OS use)04:50
ShadowJKWith a modern kernel we could run f2fs instead, which performs about twice as fast as ext4 on emmc-type.04:51
ShadowJKRegardless, the more devices to spread IO traffic around to, the better04:54
DocScrutinizer05dos1: no advantages04:56
DocScrutinizer05but we need NAND for e.g CAL04:57
DocScrutinizer05unless we build some massive cheat into kernel04:59
ShadowJKConsidering the emmc doed about 1-4 WIOPS, if there's a write in-flight, the page-in of executable code from /opt can have to wait up to a second in worst case.. so I'd say it does have an impact05:00
DocScrutinizer05it's not about those 256MB NAND and the 4 or 5 partitions on it, it's about kernel and userland using those05:00
ShadowJK(especially if sqlite-using things like.. well, conversations, browser, tracker is running)05:01
DocScrutinizer05the new eMMC seem faster05:02
DocScrutinizer05but still... missing on NAND is a pain05:03
DocScrutinizer05sure we can boot from eMMC05:03
DocScrutinizer05and maybe we even can cheat CAL and mtdoops05:03
DocScrutinizer05but honestly I don't like that solution05:04
ShadowJKIf it has a log-structured SLC cache, it will be able to do short bursts at 100-400 WIOPS.. if it just has faster raw nand inside though, it wont be a noticeable speed boost for multitasking os use05:04
DocScrutinizer05I raher go for 512MB RAM and 512 NAND05:04
DocScrutinizer05dman those 1GB RAM requests05:06
ShadowJKI'd rather take 1G/0G.. and put /home on uSD05:06
DocScrutinizer05nobody offers 1GB RAM + NAND PoP MCP, except Nokia in N905:06
DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: no way05:07
DocScrutinizer05that means you can't swap uSD anymore05:07
DocScrutinizer05aside from that, why put /home on uSD?05:07
DocScrutinizer05it's just fine on eMMC05:08
DocScrutinizer05if that friggin DM3730 only had RAM bus on bottom chips05:08
ShadowJKI mean as a personal setup, to separate write intensive data from read intensive data05:09
DocScrutinizer05that's your private non fremantle comaptibel setup05:10
ShadowJKso the write doesn't hold up reads05:10
DocScrutinizer05not viable for Neo90005:10
ShadowJKoh yes05:10
ShadowJKI already use swap on uSD for the same reason :P05:11
ShadowJK(and some other stuff, like moving gpodder's data files to uSD makes downloaading podcasts 5 times fasrer)05:11
DocScrutinizer05so what do we need? 2 eMMC?05:11
ShadowJKHow many mmc interfaces does omap have? :D05:13
DocScrutinizer05I hoped for RAM in MCP eMMC chip, but it seems it has its own RAM bus, just simply sharing same chip package with eMMC05:13
DocScrutinizer05(how many) to be evaluated if more than one can share same bus05:14
DocScrutinizer05DM3730 has 2 separate IF iirc05:15
ShadowJKBus sharing isn't very useful05:15
ShadowJKthis would be awesome :D
ShadowJK400 WIOPS sustained05:23
ShadowJKbest of best I've seen so far has been 100-400 peak/burst05:24
DocScrutinizer05i guess we can use iNand eMMC05:24
DocScrutinizer05toldya there are faster eMMC nowadays05:25
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DocScrutinizer05I jst wish there was a flash (eMMC) with a smart controller and 1 or 2 GB of RAM "buffer"05:45
DocScrutinizer05I thought those 32+1 combi eMMC would be this, but it seems they are not05:47
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DocScrutinizer05friggin usual mess of big business not even providing datasheets05:48
DocScrutinizer05only pamphlets with marketing blabla05:48
jonwilwhat part are you trying to find datasheet for?05:51
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jonwilyou are talking about memory parts?05:53
DocScrutinizer05>> Instead of interconnecting and using these memory chips separately within the device, MCP introduces the concept of unifying all the memory chips onto a single substrate. The chips are then connected on the substrate using one of several techniques, such as die-to-die bonding or die-to-frame bonding. Along with a substantial reduction in the board space used by the memory subsection, this technique significantly improves the05:57
DocScrutinizer05performance of memory devices due to the tight coupling and shortest possible interconnections between the memory chips.<<05:57
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DocScrutinizer05what been the PoP on N900? KAT0F00D?06:03
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DocScrutinizer05Samsung Semiconductor KAT00F00DD-AE77 MCP - 2Gb OneNAND Flash, 2Gb Mobile DDR, PoP06:08
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jonwilanyone know where I can find a tool that can strip comments from a source file? (I cant seem to find anything with Google)08:03
bef0rdo, not really strip, just count them08:04
DocScrutinizer05there must be an abundance of c prettyprinters08:05
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Macerhow odd15:17
Macerpan seems to work but i have to keep re-adding the device for windows to direct connect to the n90015:17
Macerit is the strangest thing15:17
Macerright now it still allows for a direct connection but later it will only give an adhoc option15:18
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jonwilanyone know what actingdead is?16:29
cehtehafter the warranty is over, the device enters that mode :)16:35
cehtehsrly ... charging is managed by a userspace daemon, when the device is turned but plugged into charger/usb it boots into acting-dead where only charging running but nothing else is booted up16:37
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inzalso on alarm-from-poweroff16:53
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DocScrutinizer05good point17:03
DocScrutinizer05basically act_dead is a runlevel different to the "normal" one17:03
ShadowJKIn Diablo, switching from act_dead to normal is very fast :)17:06
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DocScrutinizer05they changed the way this switching works, in fremantle. And again in HARM17:06
DocScrutinizer05In HARM even a ssh session survives switching to act_dead17:07
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jonwilok, now I see what osso-systemui-actingdead is for, its to display the UI (including audio) so that when you go into actdead mode you get indications of whats going on17:29
jonwili.e. when the battery is really drained and you power up the phone with the charger plugged in, it can play the audio to say "yes I am charging"17:30
jonwilHaving studied it (and osso-systemui-modechange) I can say that they can go off the "needs changes for Neo900" list as nothing they do is tied to the hardware as such17:36
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kerioso... we're going to keep the godawful act_dead mode? :c18:01
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DocScrutinizer05I didn't know anybody was about to _not_ keep _anything_18:13
DocScrutinizer05IOW wtf are you talking about? You sound like somebody announced development of HARM++18:14
DocScrutinizer05you're free to remove act_dead mode form your system, should be rather simple to establish18:15
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DocScrutinizer05this however would imply that your system boots up on plugging in the charger (or on RTC alarm) and will NOT power down when you unplug it (or cancel the alarm) - or alternatively you can set up your config so system *always* powers down on unplugging charger, if you prefer that18:18
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Siceloplease help with my battery drainage issue.18:57
Sicelopowertop output:
Sicelonothing 'unusual' running. just two xmpp accounts in Conversations, and 2 other accounts in pidgin. no widgets at all. using wifi18:58
Siceloi'm onk CSSU-S+KP52.19:00
Sicelohtop doesn't show any process to be holding up CPU19:02
Sc0rpiusclose pidgin and test again19:05
Sc0rpiusand I'm assuming Wifi, right?19:05
Sc0rpiusWiFi in power save mode?19:05
Siceloyes, PSM on. however, this was the case even with GPRS (not 3_)19:09
Siceloyes, PSM on. however, this was the case even with GPRS (not 3G)19:09
Sicelosurely that should not cause CPU to not get to C4, should it?19:10
ShadowJKdisplay seems to be on 100%19:10
ShadowJKand something is keeping some hw active, could be accelerometer19:10
ShadowJKnot that it would be main power use, but insdicates device isn't reaching idle19:11
Siceloweird stuff. (i posted there,as qhubekela)19:15
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wotan147Folks on this page they say I have to put a unix{ enty in the .pro files, but shouldnt' I rather replace it by a maemo{ entry?23:06
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DocScrutinizer05Sicelo: pretty much sounds like a bug in KP23:37
DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: accelerometer should show in IRQ of I2C, don't ask me which one23:42
DocScrutinizer05of course it could be the age old heissenbug in I2C23:43
DocScrutinizer05Sicelo: check spirit level or accelerometer test app, whatever, to make sure communication to LIS302 is working23:44
DocScrutinizer05and also that the values delivered make any sense23:44
DocScrutinizer05bbl o/23:45
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