IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2013-08-24

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discopigWizardNumberNext, still here?01:11
discopigcd /opt/packet-injection-modules/2.6.28.10-power52/01:11
discopigit's al in there01:11
discopigcomes with the kernel by default01:11
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jon_ydrathir: q10 has a tiny screen02:45
jon_yBB is either bigscreen/no keyboard02:45
jon_yor tinyscreen perma keyboard02:45
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Maceryeah03:55
Macerit was the ad blocker03:55
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DocScrutinizer05toldya05:24
DocScrutinizer05~jrtools05:24
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools05:24
DHRneed it for n80005:25
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qwerty123what is pymucl??06:25
qwerty123and is there a way to do gmail group chats on phone??06:27
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WizardNumberNextdiscopig, ty. I expect I should simply copy whole lot to /lib/modules/`uname -v`/ ? Should I overwrite anything?09:55
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discopigWizardNumberNext, you can keep it in /opt10:29
discopigtheres a script in it to load the modues10:29
discopigi think load.sh or something like that10:29
discopigi never bothered moving it10:29
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WizardNumberNextthere are only modules in there11:25
WizardNumberNextpreviously I didn't have to do anything11:25
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drathirjon_y: 3.1" isnt so small with full hw kb attached...11:38
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WizardNumberNextwhat is in cssu-devel repo? Is it simply cssu-devel -> cssu-testing -> cssu-stable scheme?12:10
freemangordon~cssu-devel12:10
infobotit has been said that cssu-devel is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=8429212:10
WizardNumberNextty12:10
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WizardNumberNextI am on CSSU-thumb now. Quite happy with it.12:12
SAiFOnce I asked how to connect wlan and edge together in n900. and someone said i have to bridge connections or write my own code or something..12:19
SAiFtoday I found my E71 connects through both by default. ie plays internet radio through EDGE and plays you tube videos through wlan, with default apps.12:20
SAiFalthough not together in the same app, but I guess some apps like transmission could do that, atleat if you have multiple downloads.12:21
DocScrutinizer05~cssu-devel is also extremely deprecated for any non-developer12:22
infobotDocScrutinizer05: okay12:22
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DocScrutinizer05RST38h: now uncle fester is gone, like you asked for ;-D12:43
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RST38hDoc: But I want more, more12:55
RST38hDoc: Will they make Elop a new MS CEO?12:56
RST38hDoc: He has got so much experience in the mobile platform field!12:56
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ShapeshifterWell, it seems like this the end of the line for my N900. I suddenly lost access to my contacts, messages etc. and everything in /home/user went of the map. Sometimes ls would say "Stale NFS mount" for every single file that used to be in there, sometimes everything would just be gone. It still boots, but it can't load the desktop background and everything is hit and miss.13:04
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ApicReflash?13:07
ShapeshifterWill attempt. Still trying to salvage some of the data13:08
ShapeshifterAlthough it's weird. Right now I can actually find many of the files in MyDocs but some are simply missing (e.g. photos)13:09
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DocScrutinizer05Shapeshifter: full reflash13:29
DocScrutinizer05Shapeshifter: sounds like quite usual fs corruption13:29
DocScrutinizer05Shapeshifter: you're not - by any chance - on CSSU-T8(.0)?13:30
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: How can I determine this?13:31
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Wizzup_Shapeshifter: reflash works with stale nfs mounts usuallhy13:32
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sixwheeledbeastShapeshifter: Settings > About Community SSU > Version:13:39
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Shapeshiftersixwheeledbeast: thanks13:47
ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: Tmaemo8.213:47
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sixwheeledbeastmmm...T8.x14:31
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DocScrutinizer05indeed hmmmm. Sorry to say that but I comletely lost confidence in CSSU(-T, for now) since that fstab/fsck hack that intended to improve stuff but in the end pretty much messed up fsck14:57
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Win7MacDocScrutinizer05, Hi!15:16
Win7MacAny progress with the cloaks?15:16
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Win7Macreferring to this: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-meeting-irclog/%23maemo-meeting.2013-06-29.log.html#t2013-06-29T19:26:0015:34
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DocScrutinizer05sorry I been "lazy", didn't manage to pester the missing (mail) persons (chemist?) about their preferences15:46
Win7Macnp, just skip the missing persons then ok?15:47
DocScrutinizer05ok, will do15:47
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Win7Macgreat, many thanks. And probably have new GroupContacts so we don't need to rely on X-Fade, like you suggested15:50
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: disabled by default, iirc15:55
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DocScrutinizer05kerio: hmm?15:56
keriothe fsck on boot thing15:56
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SAiFThis time after messing up the OS i was unable to flash.16:10
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SAiFtried with win 7 64 and libusb, another win xp machine , and I even installed virtual machine and XP in my pc.16:12
SAiFbut nothing seems to work. I couldnt even copy the files to virtual machine, it just says copying and takes hours...16:12
SAiFSo after a week I am here logged in from a UBUNTU 10.04 disc,  i had lying around. and I am not totally sure what to do..16:13
SAiFSo can anyone help me out..16:13
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SAiFI just installed the debian based flasher but I cannot locate it..16:14
SAiFnew to desktop linux.16:16
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SAiFwell.. figured it out.16:22
SAiFafter this 'Suitable USB device not found, waiting.' the usb symbol on fone screen goes away and fone just reboots again and again..16:23
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sixwheeledbeast~flashing16:29
infobothmm... maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware16:29
sixwheeledbeasthave you read above?16:29
DocScrutinizer05SAiF: sounds like your battery is too empty16:29
DocScrutinizer05and you probably didn't blacklist cdc_phonet16:30
DocScrutinizer05lsmod | grep phon16:30
SAiFbattery could not be empty, I was charging it with external battery charger for flashing.16:32
SAiFand I didnt get the second thing you said. the blacklist one..16:32
SAiFubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ lsmod | grep phon cdc_phonet              3901  0  phonet                 16933  1 cdc_phonet16:34
SAiFhow do i blacklist that cdc_phonet and what is that?16:34
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Guest36645?nick SAiF16:54
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SAiFu~ping16:58
infobot~pong16:58
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DocScrutinizer05SaIFu: see updated http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware17:03
DocScrutinizer05dang17:04
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brolin_empeyPreparing/formatting only certain sections of a MediaWiki article for paged media so they can be printed to paper seems to be a PITA. :/17:13
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DocScrutinizer05indeed it is17:14
K_SAiFWell booted back into windows. that old ubuntu and firefox was giving me troubles. with internet connection. and17:14
K_SAiFlooking through the logs,, some of what I have said is skipped.17:15
K_SAiFWell I black listed as you said..17:15
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SAiFthen tried but seen no difference.17:16
DocScrutinizer05SaIFu: see updated http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware17:17
SAiFthen I tried flashing the combined first and it worked17:17
SAiFand then emmc and then combined again..17:17
SAiFis there any thing wrong in what I did.17:17
DocScrutinizer05no, exactly right17:18
SAiFN900 just booted up and is running fine for now.17:18
DocScrutinizer05err wait17:18
DocScrutinizer05the correct sequence is combined, then emmc, then combined again17:18
SAiFquestion is why did I had to flash combined first, I never flashed combined first before. Just the emmc and then combined.  and that used to work17:19
DocScrutinizer05you always need to flash combined too when you flashed emmc (there's a trick to get away with flashing combined first, and then emmc, but that's not simple)17:19
DocScrutinizer05you can flash emmc only with a semi-working rootfs. If your rootfs is too messed up, you need to flash it first (combined), before you can flash emmc. And after emmc you always should flash combined17:21
DocScrutinizer05thus: combined, emmc, combined17:21
SAiFokay now I got. I never got n900 this much messed up before. to a nonbooting situation17:21
SAiF*got it17:22
DocScrutinizer05see "the complete foolproof flashing procedure" in http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware17:22
DocScrutinizer05all down at bottom of that page17:22
SAiFI always use that..  actually I couldnt find another guide :)17:23
DocScrutinizer05If you cannot establish a connection with N900, or got any other problems during star...17:23
brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: I want the “ASCII printable characters” section of http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ASCII&oldid=569716319 on at most 2 Letter-sized pages so I can print it to paper and put it on my wall.  I have copied the section from Mozilla Firefox to LibreOffice Writer 4.0.3.3 but cannot get the 3 columns of tables to actually be in 3 columns instead of in only 2 columns.17:24
DocScrutinizer05>>...do the following steps which describe the complete foolproof flashing procedure again in terse form:<<17:24
SAiFNow can I follow this http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_The_Perfect_Setup17:25
DocScrutinizer05SAiF: it's not exactly the official definition/instruction17:26
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SAiFis there any?17:26
DocScrutinizer05brolin_empey: I'd try to highlight one 5-col column after the other and then insert them into a table with the columns you defined in writer17:27
DocScrutinizer05s/with the/with three/17:28
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: brolin_empey: I'd try to highlight one 5-col column after the other and then insert them into a table with three columns you defined in writer17:28
DocScrutinizer05SAiF: not really. The one you referred to is not exactly bad, but take it with a grain of salt17:28
DocScrutinizer05for example I don't think removing relentlessly all apps somebody considered useless is a smart thing to do17:29
DocScrutinizer05same wy you shouldn't blindly follow every "suggestion" on:17:30
DocScrutinizer05~jrtools17:30
infobotwell, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools17:30
DocScrutinizer05same way*17:30
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brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: I tried that but Writer incorrectly assumes I want to paste the copied table into multiple columns of the table in Writer instead of pasting into only 1 column of the table in Writer. :/17:31
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DocScrutinizer05aaah I see17:31
DocScrutinizer05so create a table with 15 cols17:31
DocScrutinizer05or rather, 3 tables with 5 cols17:31
brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: Does Writer even support nested tables?17:32
DocScrutinizer05or see if `man ascii` maybe more meets your needs17:32
DocScrutinizer05brolin_empey: I guess it at least allows multiple side-by-side tables on one page17:33
DocScrutinizer05but you for sure can as well try to paste into cols1-5, then 6-10, then 11-15, of a 15col table17:34
DocScrutinizer05or even make that 17 col, to have a nice margin between the 3 sections17:34
DocScrutinizer05or even use calc instead writer, then export to a writer document or print directly from calc17:35
SAiFI always have difficulty choosing the right version of KP, cssu and some other software.. or may be its because I cannot make sure I installed correct versions.. I may sound stupid.17:36
SAiFAnyway thanks Doc17:36
sixwheeledbeastSAiF: there is no "right" version. only what is best for YOU. As explianed on the cssu page.17:38
sixwheeledbeast~cssu17:38
infobotrumour has it, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU17:38
DocScrutinizer05brolin_empey: http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?ascii+7   http://www.manpagez.com/man/7/ascii/17:38
SAiF:)17:38
DocScrutinizer05SAiF: go for CSSU-S17:39
DocScrutinizer05for KP pick latest, which is 52 iirc ans should be available via extras-devel now17:39
LjL-Alpswin 4117:41
SAiFOkay Doc. it seems stable suits me more. last time had issues with the portrait mode calling menu, after cssu-T17:41
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sixwheeledbeastSAiF: stable with latest kp52 is my day-to-day device setup. as per wiki page you mentioned.17:47
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SAiFwhat about Additional Unnecessary Software, will you remove it?17:50
sixwheeledbeaster?17:51
sixwheeledbeastRemove from device?17:52
SAiFyes17:52
sixwheeledbeast~listkeys beast17:52
infobotFactoid search of 'beast' by key (5): libbeastiality #DEL# ;; libbeastiality ;; beasttweaks ;; beastieb #DEL# ;; ~beasttweaks #DEL#.17:52
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SAiFIve got a feeling that it removes some of the needed libraries.. I may sound stupid again17:52
sixwheeledbeast~beasttweaks17:53
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, beasttweaks is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Sixwheeledbeast/Scripts17:53
sixwheeledbeastI have my version of software removal :)17:53
SAiFwow cool...17:54
sixwheeledbeastit removes some languages that you might need if you are not english17:54
SAiFmy language in not in the list anyway.. haha17:54
sixwheeledbeastI also keep the orange theme in my version17:56
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brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: Your suggestions sound good in theory but they do not function as expected in practice.  Never underestimate the seemingly endless frustration involved in trying to copy a table from a MediaWiki article in a GUI Web browser to a text document in LibreOffice Writer. :/18:41
brolin_empeyWhy is copying a table from a document viewer to a document editor so bloody difficult? :/18:44
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sixwheeledbeastit appears beasttweaks is now featured in jrtools :)18:57
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ShapeshifterDocScrutinizer05: what does it mean, CSSU-T? testing?19:10
DocScrutinizer05yep19:10
ShapeshifterI don't know, I've pretty much given up on small mobile devices altogether19:11
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kerioShapeshifter: ...what are you doing here then?19:30
keriowe're all about a certain small mobile device19:30
keriodon't get me wrong, you can stay19:30
keriobut it seems weird19:30
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kerio!saves19:44
keriowhoops, wrong window19:44
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SAiF~ping20:40
infobot~pong20:40
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SAiFLink to flash player 10 binaries in wiki is broken. http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_The_Perfect_Setup20:42
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WizardNumberNexthello. Strange problem. I want to install backupmenu. HAM is complaining about missing liblz02 and apt-get doesn't find it. I have backupmenu freshly iunstalled on my 1st n900 - something like on 18 august. Now I cannot install it becaus of missing liblzo2. How to fiz that problem or where to find liblzo2 - I can install it with dpkg20:51
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DocScrutinizer05WizardNumberNext: http://maemo.org/packages/view/liblzo2-2/21:25
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DocScrutinizer05so according to that it should be in nokia base repo and in SDK21:27
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DocScrutinizer05nokia base repo might have issues due to the expired key21:27
DocScrutinizer05check your log21:27
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SAiFI too couldnt find backup menu in the repos. it just says package not found.21:50
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon_: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://maemo.org/packages/view/backupmenu/ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!22:16
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DocScrutinizer05nevermind22:18
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