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| Macer | so like. the n900 charger has a different pinout to charge quicker? | 01:11 |
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| ecc3g | macer: it has a standard microusb pinout... | 02:27 |
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| Macer | ecc3g: yeah but i thought the actual n900 had a different thing about it | 03:02 |
| Macer | which allows the n900 to charge faster | 03:02 |
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| robbiethe1st | so, guys, the N950 has a proximity sensor on the front, right? | 03:24 |
| robbiethe1st | It uses an IR(or near-IR) LED? | 03:26 |
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| ecc3g | macer: nah it's standard or at least (mostly) follows the USB consortium's guidelines. | 03:26 |
| ecc3g | the only thing that's broken is that it doesn't always switch modes, it's extremely conservative not to fry anything. | 03:27 |
| ecc3g | i've never seen any phone with a visible or near-IR proximity sensor... heh | 03:29 |
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| ecc3g | if it was near-IR then I suppose some people could actually see it lit... | 03:30 |
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| robbiethe1st | ecc3g, exactly what I'm getting at | 03:32 |
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| robbiethe1st | Last night, in the dark, I saw a very /very/ dim red light from the front of my N950 | 03:32 |
| robbiethe1st | just a tiny little spark, from the top area there. definitely glowing | 03:32 |
| robbiethe1st | I used my N900 to take a look at it with the camera, and it was light purple, which is what IR tends to look like | 03:33 |
| robbiethe1st | It was also flickering, via the camera | 03:33 |
| robbiethe1st | naked eye, no flashing(so a very high rate/optical persistance) | 03:34 |
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| robbiethe1st | I didn't know this was possible(never was able to see IR before) | 03:36 |
| robbiethe1st | which makes me think it might be a close enough frequency, or possibly some reflecting off the plastic layer above it, or something | 03:36 |
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| SpeedEvil | ir is visible, just, at the edges | 03:44 |
| robbiethe1st | Yeah. | 03:44 |
| SpeedEvil | it is possibly the contact sensor | 03:44 |
| robbiethe1st | Yeah, that's what I think | 03:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | robbiethe1st: yep. confirmed | 06:44 |
| robbiethe1st | Do you know what wavelength of light it produces? | 06:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nope, alas not. But I'm worried I seem to have lost my IR sight | 06:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | while I recall I've seen IR LEDs in the past, I seem incapable to see this one | 06:47 |
| robbiethe1st | I'd never noticed it before | 06:48 |
| robbiethe1st | But it was A, in the dark, after my eyes had adjusted to near-pitch-black for a few minutes | 06:48 |
| robbiethe1st | (reading ebooks on my N900 at 2 brightness, and a minute or so staring off into the night | 06:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10901 sounds somehow like it might be that component | 06:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or this one? http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/SFH 7741-Z/475-2663-1-ND/1893865?cur=USD | 07:07 |
| ecc3g | there are tons of IR wavelengths, I think there are two common IR wavelengths though. One is just outside of red, which is barely visible. The other is way out and nobody can see it. | 07:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wstaw.org/m/2013/08/23/plasma-desktopGV3743.png | 07:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yup, wasn't that 830 and 880nm? | 07:14 |
| ecc3g | I guess mr.google says 850 and a 950-ish range. I guess the upper range ones is not precise | 07:16 |
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| ecc3g | thought they were different. the 850 one makes sense because they're used to make blue lasers. The upper one I thought was closer to 1000nm but it wasn't the case (to make green lasers) | 07:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | err yep, 880 and 950 | 07:24 |
| robbiethe1st | Aarrrgghhh! | 07:25 |
| robbiethe1st | I almost gave ubuntu credit. I finally got Ubuntu Mobile installed on my nexus 7 tablet. It works surprisingly smoothly | 07:25 |
| robbiethe1st | I've got a terminal, large repo, etc. Yay! | 07:26 |
| robbiethe1st | I install Openjdk, get it installed, it all works. | 07:26 |
| robbiethe1st | I go to try to run a java app, and oh, wait, no X11. | 07:26 |
| robbiethe1st | I wouldn't care so much if they provided a compatibility layer, but as it is now, it's worse than Cyannogen mod. | 07:26 |
| robbiethe1st | Tomorrow, plasma active time. we'll see if they can do better. | 07:27 |
| robbiethe1st | Damnit, I /will/ get Runescape to run natively on my Nexus 7! | 07:27 |
| robbiethe1st | (I will point out that it runs on my N900, so something that is many times as powerful should be able to run it. | 07:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | lol, tell stskeeps and jolla about your thoughts regarding non-X11 platforms | 07:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aiui they opted for wayland since that allows to run HD-video ... . . .oO(whatever THATS worth for, on a 4" screen) | 07:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but wayland is THE FUTURE, oh my :-x | 07:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | "use QML and you'll not even notice it's no X11!" tzzzzzz | 07:36 |
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| Macer | hm | 08:03 |
| Macer | i disabled js in microb | 08:03 |
| Macer | works great now! heh | 08:04 |
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| Macer | omg why does the default app manager have to suck so much? heh | 08:09 |
| Macer | i wish the other one was the default. have there been any talks to replace it? | 08:09 |
| Macer | lieke the way it randomly updates stuff | 08:14 |
| Macer | i just wanted to check which repos were activated so in order to do that it has to "check for updates" then go on its 20 min db update | 08:14 |
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| discopig | usb port broke on my n900 :( | 09:58 |
| discopig | and i've been so careful with it | 09:58 |
| discopig | i even sanded off the teeth on the usb cables | 09:59 |
| discopig | so it would slide in and out without any effort | 09:59 |
| discopig | i have a motherboard with a working usb port so i'd just need to switch it out but i still dont get how this broke | 09:59 |
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| discopig | is there any way to solder the port back on after it fell off? | 10:05 |
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| ShadowJK | I imagine sideways forces are more of a concern than the insertion and removal force | 12:32 |
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| Iridos | on related news, I soldered my n900 usb port-casing to the board last weekend \o/ | 12:44 |
| Iridos | but seems it was just a big coincidence that 3 or so external chargers stopped working [with the N900] | 12:45 |
| Iridos | what's weird, one charger still works with other devices, but not with the N900... the N900 does detect when I plug it out, too... then the screen goes on... but it never goes into a charging state | 12:46 |
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| discopig | hi | 12:58 |
| discopig | yeah ShadowJK | 12:59 |
| discopig | i've been really careful though | 12:59 |
| discopig | but yeah i have another motherboard until i can get around to getting a soldering iron and fixing the broken one | 12:59 |
| discopig | i just disassembled it and switched it out 1h ago | 12:59 |
| discopig | Iridos, i had the same issue | 13:00 |
| discopig | it means your microusb port is about to fall off | 13:00 |
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| discopig | it means some of the pins are already not touching anymore, so it's messing it up | 13:00 |
| discopig | it's really a shame there is still no good n900 replacement in 2013 :/ | 13:01 |
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| discopig | i'm going to end up using that n900 until it completely breaks down | 13:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, that picture doesn't help much | 14:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't have kismac so don't know the meaning of the cols "A..." "S..." whatever. And even if I knnew, I still can't tell what all those stations are without looking at mac/SSID. Odds are they might be clients of maybe 3 AP | 14:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the used-channel distribution suggests that as well | 14:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I also had situations where I could *detect* ~30 APs, but only maybe 2 or 3 were offered to conect to. This usually is caused by the other ones simply having an abysmal S/N-ratio, caused by one nearby transmitter (often not even a AP) simply polluting the whole WLAN band | 15:02 |
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| Macer | hm | 16:14 |
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| Macer | there has to be something messed up somewhere with microb. i dont remember it ever being this bad | 16:15 |
| Macer | it runs for a while then for whatever reason cpu maxes out and i keep getting the close dialogue | 16:15 |
| Macer | it eventually starts working again but it happens over and over | 16:15 |
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| ecc3g | i wish web devs stop writing inefficient javascript... | 16:16 |
| Macer | i disabled js | 16:16 |
| Macer | still does it | 16:16 |
| Macer | thought that may be the problem as well | 16:16 |
| ecc3g | or other plugins too... | 16:17 |
| Macer | yeah i suppose | 16:19 |
| Macer | i do have the adblock stuff installed. maybe i will disable those and see what happens later | 16:19 |
| Macer | it probably blocks it in a difficult manner | 16:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | adblock is an extreme hog | 16:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the blocking list is waaaaaay too large, and searching it costs eternities of time | 16:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | honestly for doing stuff like adblock you should consider a client-server or rather proxy concept, with your own or a provider's http proxy server | 16:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway it's a known fact that adblock slows down rather than speed up webbrowsing on embedded devices like N900 | 16:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | even with 9.6kbps plain CSD it would take less time to download and render the ads than what adblock takes to check each single GET against that monster of a blocklist | 16:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | iirc adblock also hogs RAM which is another reason why stuff comes to a grinding halt when it's enabled | 16:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | weird, nobody missed infobot | 16:45 |
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| infobot | DocScrutinizer: infobot joined! | 16:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~+uptime | 16:46 |
| infobot | - Uptime for purl - | 16:46 |
| infobot | Now: 2m 16s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux | 16:46 |
| infobot | 1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 2010 | 16:46 |
| infobot | 2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 2009 | 16:46 |
| infobot | 3: 36d 20h 47m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Aug 4 17:38:59 2009 | 16:46 |
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| drathir | DocScrutinizer05: can you also invite to alternatives ? | 16:49 |
| drathir | or not needed ? | 16:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | drathir: sorry? | 16:50 |
| drathir | missing info boot too there... | 16:50 |
| drathir | !ping | 16:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~ping | 16:51 |
| infobot | ~pong | 16:51 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Win7Mac: I have made Maemo Weekly News wiki page "registered users only" due to excessive vandalism. This must be 4/5 times we have rolledback now. | 17:28 |
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| Win7Mac | sixwheeledbeast, good, didn't even know this was possible | 17:39 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | see wiki logs ;) protect is in the column on the right :) | 17:41 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Use sparingly on pages that have excessive issues that unregistered users don't need to edit. | 17:42 |
| Win7Mac | ok, thanks | 17:43 |
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| Natanaiel | what is the voice call app name in maemo? | 18:07 |
| Pali | Natanaiel: rtcom-call-ui | 18:08 |
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| Natanaiel | Pali: Is there any place where can I download its source code from? | 18:17 |
| Pali | Natanaiel: not it is closed source | 18:17 |
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| kW_ | Hello! Do any N900 successor devices with at least its capabilities (open-source, hardware keyboard, ...) exist? | 18:31 |
| kW_ | (Maybe the N950, but those devices are not available for purchase...) | 18:31 |
| jon_y | kW_: I've been told to get a blackberry :( | 18:32 |
| jon_y | it doesn't even run Linux | 18:32 |
| drathir | bb is great for main phone... | 18:33 |
| jon_y | it doesn't have ssh | 18:33 |
| jon_y | or irssi | 18:33 |
| jon_y | or gcc | 18:33 |
| drathir | have good client | 18:34 |
| jon_y | I mean ssh server | 18:34 |
| jon_y | with gnu userland and all that | 18:34 |
| jon_y | at least apple rooted phones have them the last time I checked | 18:34 |
| drathir | http://bbssh.org/ota/ | 18:34 |
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| jon_y | drathir: that's a client | 18:35 |
| drathir | oh server yes dont have, but bb need to be a secure phone... | 18:35 |
| jon_y | everyone and their mums have ssh clients | 18:36 |
| drathir | apple+nsa | 18:36 |
| jon_y | you know, you could enable ssh only when you want to connect to it | 18:36 |
| jon_y | lack of ssh server isn't related to security | 18:37 |
| drathir | bb have bis/bes | 18:37 |
| jon_y | so how do you chroot on a BB phone anyway? | 18:37 |
| drathir | yes server give acces and security holes not well controled... | 18:38 |
| jon_y | the n900 didn't have proper gnuland, so it compensated by allowing chroot | 18:38 |
| jon_y | you want an iphone in that case | 18:38 |
| jon_y | BIS/BES is already compromised | 18:39 |
| jon_y | compromised at the BB end | 18:39 |
| drathir | like i say bb is make for security not possible to acces and mess anything... And for main phone is perfect for entertainment use also is good, but for play with phone only n900... | 18:40 |
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| jon_y | BB is better used as a door stop, since you can't do anything with it | 18:41 |
| jon_y | >entertainment | 18:42 |
| jon_y | only if you are into what they call mobile games | 18:42 |
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| jon_y | I have my wintel desktop for that | 18:42 |
| drathir | i find all major apps what i using on symbian... Bb isnt phone to play with it it solid phone to working all the time... If need linux you can simply connect to ssh w/o problems, and not sure also if allow now to port redirection... | 18:44 |
| jon_y | sure, but do not say it is even comparable to the N900 | 18:45 |
| drathir | jon_y: yea games too, but also music, and movies... | 18:45 |
| jon_y | if anything, it is a downgrade | 18:45 |
| jon_y | right, N900 can't play music | 18:46 |
| drathir | true, that i say for main phone bb for play phone n900. | 18:46 |
| jon_y | simply put it, there is no replacement for the N900 | 18:47 |
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| jon_y | all the new phones are all glass, lack SD, and without removable battery | 18:47 |
| jon_y | BB phones with hard keyboards come with tiny 2.5" screens | 18:48 |
| drathir | i have for main n900 works ok, but time is short and update always is little scary , but all the time without update problems... Now sadly waiting my n900 to fix... | 18:48 |
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| drathir | jon_y: q10 ? | 18:51 |
| drathir | http://m.gsmarena.com/blackberry_q10-5274.php | 18:51 |
| drathir | my rip bb was 9300 was great phone... :/ | 18:54 |
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| Lithdk | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1368947 | 19:28 |
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| wnd | I've been told that's the graphics core being used before it's fully initialised. I've had that happen number of times and it seems to be completely harmless. if it bothers you, reboot and let the device "settle" before doing anything. | 19:37 |
| Lithdk | Aight thank you | 19:38 |
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| ShadowJK | It's kinda funny how asus and LG make non-nexus version/clone of the google nexus devices, but add microsdhc. On the other hand, you'll have to suffer vendor crapware/crapgui/crapoverlay instead. | 19:40 |
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| WizardNumberNext | Hello. I have advanced-interface-switcher. I think it is the one, which shows switches for 2/3G wifi and bt and. Wifi was including driver selector and bt was including discoverable/connectable switches. Allthougt it is not appearing in status drop-down menu. Any ideas? | 19:59 |
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| WizardNumberNext | P.S. it is not from extras-devel | 19:59 |
| kW_ | drathir+jon_y: thank you, so this is also my current state: an N900 isn't replaceable with newer models, even 4 years after the N900 was launched... so I will now buy my 3rd N900 as the hardware breaks after some time... | 20:04 |
| * ShadowJK is on his fourth N900 | 20:06 | |
| kW_ | ShadowJK: what happened to the first 3...? | 20:08 |
| ShadowJK | kW_; modem failed | 20:08 |
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| * Luke-Jr hasn't had to switch to his spare yet | 20:12 | |
| Luke-Jr | although I never use it anymore | 20:12 |
| ShadowJK | I use mine daily, ircing on it now | 20:12 |
| Luke-Jr | now it just sits at my colo as a backup internet link -.- | 20:12 |
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| Luke-Jr | I basically never leave home <.< | 20:13 |
| ShadowJK | lol | 20:13 |
| ShadowJK | My old Nokia E70 and E75 sit at home as backup internet links :) | 20:14 |
| drathir | Bmine exclude usb work perfect... | 20:15 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | ShadowJK: I have three and still on my first using as daily "business" phone ;) | 20:19 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | main ribbon had died but it's still good :) | 20:21 |
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| HtheB | moo | 22:47 |
| sixwheeledbeast | this channel has super cow powers :) | 22:48 |
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| HtheB | moo I said.... | 22:49 |
| * HtheB is a Brahmin | 22:49 | |
| HtheB | http://static.giantbomb.com/api/image/scale_medium/445752-herdofwildbrahmin.jpg | 22:52 |
| HtheB | fallout ftw | 22:53 |
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| WizardNumberNext | sixwheeledbeast, everybody is scared of super cow powers - do not mention it ;) | 23:23 |
| WizardNumberNext | btw where is bleeding edge wifi module for kp52? on kp51 I didn't have to download it? | 23:24 |
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