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| gomiam | hi everyone. I have tried Khwheeteur, Twimgo, Tweego, witter, and the conversations plugin to try and have Twitter available on my n900 with no success. Does any of these programs work (and I'm using them wrong)? Should I use another program? | 00:18 |
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| Lava_Cro1t | gomiam: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=88248 | 00:20 |
| Lava_Cro1t | backport of N9 application Tweetian | 00:20 |
| gomiam | thanks :-) | 00:20 |
| Lava_Cro1t | :) | 00:20 |
| gomiam | testing now | 00:21 |
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| gomiam | I had forgotten to enable a few repositories, it seems (duh) | 00:29 |
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| joga | hey, I have the finnish (scandinavian?) hw keyboard layout on my n900 and would like to play chaos strikes back on it, its config seems simple enough and has "pc scancode" mappings modified for n900 but where might I find what code corresponds to the 'Ä' button that's where the up arrow would be on US layout? | 00:50 |
| joga | it's a line that says "key 1 000111 480000" where 111 is dpad up | 00:53 |
| joga | hmm..guess wiki has some about it | 00:55 |
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| joga | wonder if there's a similar map for non-english layout around http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1130652&postcount=3 | 01:07 |
| joga | (or in some file?) | 01:08 |
| joga | can't remember anymore where to look to be honest :p | 01:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | scancodes should be always same no matter which keymapping | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since scancodes are lowest level hw codes that are directly linked to physical location of key on kbd | 01:16 |
| joga | hmm... what I'd like to do for that specific game is to tell it to use '.' for left, left arrow for down, right arrow for right and Ä for up | 01:16 |
| joga | it's SDL as far as I can tell | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no idea about SDL | 01:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | you could use xev and check "keycode" | 01:21 |
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| joga | I tried with xev but either missed or didn't find the output I was looking for | 01:22 |
| joga | I'll try again.. | 01:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | xev shows whole x-message data, incl raw keycode which never changes | 01:22 |
| gomiam | Lava_Croft: finally managed to install everything I need for tweetian... trying to log in | 01:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | joga: except xev seems not available on N900? :-o | 01:24 |
| joga | DocScrutinizer05, I do have it actually but seems it has focus problems, my keyb input goes to the terminal I started it from | 01:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's kinda normal | 01:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think | 01:25 |
| joga | but if I do xev|grep keycode on my pc and press keys on the white box, it shows them fine, on n900 I just get 'ä's in the terminal | 01:25 |
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| joga | tried clicking it first etc but doesn't seem to work right.. | 01:26 |
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| joga | might as well try the same code, seems plausible anyway | 01:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, xev on "normal" desktop opens a new window | 01:26 |
| joga | yes, and I switch focus to that one to give input | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for obvious reasons this has potential to kinda fail on hildon-desktop | 01:27 |
| joga | I dunno, for me it does open a new window just like on pc | 01:27 |
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| joga | but maybe it fails on some non-obvious level, dunno | 01:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | actually what xev does is listening but *not* handling x-input-messages | 01:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so the input still gets handled as usual | 01:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and will end in window which has focus | 01:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | but also the window where you started xev shows the dump of x-message data | 01:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | usually the new window that xev opens has the focus | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so in *this* window even mouse-events get reported | 01:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | while kbd-events are x-messages that are gobal to all windows | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so xev reports them no matter which window has focus | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mouse-evens only get reported when they happen to/in xev new window | 01:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway check what option the readkey() or whatever function in SDL offers. There probably is either a flag "raw" or a return parameter "raw" or "keycode" | 01:32 |
| joga | on n900 or in general? on my pc at least I need to focus the xev white window to get any output in terminal | 01:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ooops you're right. Scrap the nonsense I told about keycodes | 01:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err kbd-events | 01:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | indeed xev dumps kbd-evens only when the xev-white-win has focus | 01:34 |
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| joga | ah, started easydebian's lxde and ran xev in there, works better | 01:38 |
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| joga | but yeah, codewise they should be correct then unless I'm overlooking something | 01:39 |
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| joga | though I wonder if checking for them under lxde is a bright idea or not | 01:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | shouldn't differ from fremantle | 01:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err hildon-desktop | 01:43 |
| gomiam | installing tweetian requires some patience :-) (and I have to do strange things to switch out of it too) | 01:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | joga: from backupmenu: | 01:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | KEY=`/usr/sbin/evkey -u -t 1000 /dev/input/event1` | 01:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if [ -n "$KEY" ] ; then | 01:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if [ $KEY == 28 ]; then #enter | 01:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ... | 01:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | keyToNum="16 22 4 17 19 24 20 8 14 15 - - - - 0 18 3 5 6 7 9 10 11 - - - - - 25 23 2 21 1 13 12" | 01:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | #+16 q w e r t y u i o p a s d f g h j k l z x c v b n m | 01:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | elif [ $KEY == 29 -o $KEY == 42 -o $KEY == 100 ]; then #alt, shift or control | 01:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | true | 01:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | else #normal characters - add key | 01:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | from /usr/share/backupmenu/BackupMenu.item | 01:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | should have all you need, not even any messing around with X or SDL | 01:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the trick is: /usr/sbin/evkey -u -t 1000 /dev/input/event1 | 01:50 |
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| gomiam | ok, almost done it seems: tweetian works ok, and now I need to know where to press to get back the the n900 program selection thingy :-) | 01:55 |
| joga | DocScrutinizer05, thanks, just had to add a small wait there, sleep 1; echo now; evkey -u -t 1000 /dev/input/event1, because it was swallowing my enter up | 01:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | while :; do /usr/sbin/evkey -u -t 1000 /dev/input/event1; done | 01:56 |
| joga | so I got 103 for output from the Ä button, 0x67 and tried to add it to conf but doesn't seem like it works | 01:57 |
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| LjL-Alps | i guess maybe crashing is my N900's way of telling me "no, i don't support RDS through V4L" | 01:58 |
| joga | DocScrutinizer05, ye that's better, probably should make an ascii map out of this so that others don't need to bother... :) | 01:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's not ASCII, it's keymap (X,Y) | 01:59 |
| joga | DocScrutinizer05, I mean a post like this http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1130652&postcount=3 | 01:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IOW, your Ä key is my UP key | 01:59 |
| joga | hmm | 02:00 |
| joga | well I wonder now if it's at all possible to get this without changing the layout | 02:01 |
| joga | actually now that I looked more closely, the codes in the config file (for CSB) aren't the same as in the post above for the left/right arrow keys, so I'm just doing it wrong anyway | 02:05 |
| joga | it maps UDLR as 111,112,114,113 | 02:07 |
| joga | which I figured would map to the keys in the post but apparently not since that's 111,116,113,114 | 02:07 |
| joga | oh, crap, hold on.. | 02:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the post is complete gibberish to me, nfc what it is meant to say | 02:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | here is my output of /usr/sbin/evkey -u -t 1000 /dev/input/event1 for SYM...BS; FUN..CR; Shift...RIGHT(US keymat) -- thus upper-left right then down, till lower-right: 29 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 51 14; 100 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 52 103 28(CR); 42(shift) 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 57(space) 105 108 106 | 02:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 29=ctrl, 14=backspace | 02:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | joga: this should be identical to yours, no matter which keymapping and which keymat you got | 02:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's the raw scancodes as show up in /dev/input/event1 | 02:23 |
| joga | DocScrutinizer05, so it seems, in this case I guess it's just a problem with sdl getting the arrow keys, which is not unheard of of course. I did however just find this which seems to make the layout switching at least as quick as possible http://qwerty12.qole.org/kb/ and it seems to work | 02:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you hardly get closer to the raw hardware | 02:24 |
| joga | so for the time being I think I'll just use this since there's a couple of other games that have such probs | 02:24 |
| joga | thanks for all the help again | 02:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | direct reading from /dev/input/event1 will not give you any problems that other SDL games might have | 02:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it just gives you the problem of not handling focus at all | 02:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IOW your game will +always* see the imput from kbd when reading from /dev/input/event1, no matter if in foreground or hidden | 02:26 |
| joga | the config offers two modes of input, "key" and "scan", thought at first it would just be a problem that I used "key" there, but tried it with "scan" too | 02:26 |
| joga | yup now it works great :) | 02:27 |
| joga | (with the applet, just reverted to default config again for csb) | 02:28 |
| joga | now all I need is a magnifying glass heh | 02:28 |
| gomiam | Lava_Croft: thanks for pointing me to tweetian and that tmo link. I'm able to use Twitter now. | 02:29 |
| gomiam | see you all | 02:29 |
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| infobot | robbiethe1st <~robbiethe@50-52-47-134.cral.id.frontiernet.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 1d 22h 23m 10s ago, saying: 'heh'. | 03:16 |
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| DrCode | hi all | 04:51 |
| DrCode | I am trying to use car kit with maemo | 04:51 |
| DrCode | it seems that the car ewcognize pbap but dosn't download my phonebook | 04:51 |
| DrCode | I have open syslog and there is some error: osso-addressbook[1551]: GLIB WARNING ** mc-client - Unrecognized presence `online' | 04:51 |
| DrCode | any idea? | 04:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | DrCode: http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PBAP | 06:16 |
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| freemangordon | ~ping | 10:30 |
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| DrCode | I did | 10:54 |
| DrCode | hi DocScrutinizer05 | 10:54 |
| DrCode | I did install all pkgs | 10:54 |
| DrCode | my car start download but say no enterys | 10:55 |
| DrCode | strange | 10:55 |
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| joga | DocScrutinizer05, heh now I realized the default keybindings were unusable anyway so I just circumvented the arrow key problem by remapping the movement controls to the left side of keyboard, makes much more sense that way since you need to click stuff with the other hand at the same time :) should've probably done that from the start.. | 11:06 |
| Sysaxed | joga: to the left side? like wasd? | 11:11 |
| joga | Sysaxed, yeah but in this case SZXC because QWER already had a function and didn't bother moving them around | 11:12 |
| joga | (or actually A and D are used for turning, so ASDZXC :) | 11:13 |
| Sysaxed | and, umm, how are you typing then? | 11:13 |
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| joga | Sysaxed, this is just for a game chaos strikes back, the dungeon master expansion | 11:13 |
| joga | ie. no need to type really beyond naming your characters or so | 11:14 |
| Sysaxed | ah ok | 11:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | qwertz | 11:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | asdyxc | 11:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P | 11:59 |
| Klpa | can anyone link me to kp52 as here it is only kp51r1 available repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle-1.3/free/k/kernel-power/ | 12:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ((should've probably done that from the start..)) prolly what you should've done is: allow user to config keymapping to her/his liking | 12:01 |
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| joga | DocScrutinizer05, it does allow that, that's what I used :) wish there just was an easy remapping menu or something so one wouldn't need to do so much guesswork | 12:03 |
| joga | now only problem is that it doesn't seem to be able to scale the game to fill the entire screen, so it's a bit tiny but it's more of a minor problem I guess | 12:04 |
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| Klpa | sorry guys got it | 12:08 |
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| joga | DocScrutinizer05, though actually, in this case the reason for there not being an easy menu is likely because most of the keys are actually sort of hacks, that send a mouse click to certain coordinates of the game screen, so to attack etc you don't need to click the sword icons individually, but it's not built-in to the original game itself | 12:11 |
| joga | though the engine could have such a menu, would be nice ;p | 12:12 |
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| DrCode | hi all | 13:40 |
| DrCode | ok | 13:40 |
| DrCode | it worked | 13:40 |
| DrCode | I had to upgrade also bluez | 13:40 |
| DrCode | to 4.99 | 13:40 |
| DrCode | can I use syncevultion to backup and edit my contacts? | 13:40 |
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| DrCode | I don't have windows os , I am using linux | 13:41 |
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| gry | hi | 13:44 |
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| DrCode | syncevolution is client for sync server or somthing? | 13:49 |
| gry | for syncing evolution, where evolution is a mail and calendar suite | 13:52 |
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| * Lava_Croft mumbles something about a company called Google that recently launched a search engine that allows people to search the web for information | 13:58 | |
| DrCode | how can I install sync evoltuin | 13:58 |
| DrCode | I understand I can use syncevolution client to sync google contacts? | 13:59 |
| DrCode | or I need only install Syncevolution-Frontend? | 13:59 |
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| japa-fi | I have email with attachment and the sending fails prior it even gets to the point of asking password for smtpa. Where can I see what is the issue (any log somewhere)? | 14:26 |
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| LjL-Alps | is there any way to tweak the accelerometer thresholds that decide when you're in portrait and when you're in landscape? because to trigger, i need to keep the phone quite unnaturally vertical | 15:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | alas no | 16:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but your problem is unusual anyway. Try reboot | 16:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err, powercycle | 16:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | reboot might not be enough | 16:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or use spirit level or similar app to check accelerometer | 16:13 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: infobot | 16:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | eek | 16:26 |
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| DrCode | just an update | 16:36 |
| DrCode | my car kit working perfect | 16:37 |
| DrCode | I just update bluze and now its working | 16:37 |
| DrCode | I can also use bt audio | 16:37 |
| DrCode | thankyou | 16:38 |
| DrCode | great phone | 16:38 |
| DrCode | I also found that I can sync my contacts with syncevolution | 16:38 |
| DrCode | errmming-ng for calander and syncevoltuion for contacts | 16:39 |
| DrCode | now I just need offline imap for gmail | 16:39 |
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| Raimu | DrCode: Doesn't CSSU-modest have offline-imap now? | 23:02 |
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| Trizt | Does someone have the Quassel2Go for maemo? It seem to have disappeared from the repos and online | 23:41 |
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| merlin1991 | Trizt: http://cdnm.at/~christian/maemo/quassel2go/quassel2go_0.8-pre5_armel.deb | 23:56 |
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| Trizt | thanks | 23:57 |
| Trizt | merlin1991: you saved me, things been a bit messy after I briked my phone | 23:57 |
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