IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2013-08-10

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gomiamhi everyone. I have tried Khwheeteur, Twimgo, Tweego, witter, and the conversations plugin to try and have Twitter available on my n900 with no success. Does any of these programs work (and I'm using them wrong)? Should I use another program?00:18
Lava_Cro1tbackport of N9 application Tweetian00:20
gomiamthanks :-)00:20
gomiamtesting now00:21
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gomiamI had forgotten to enable a few repositories, it seems (duh)00:29
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jogahey, I have the finnish (scandinavian?) hw keyboard layout on my n900 and would like to play chaos strikes back on it, its config seems simple enough and has "pc scancode" mappings modified for n900 but where might I find what code corresponds to the 'Ä' button that's where the up arrow would be on US layout?00:50
jogait's a line that says "key 1 000111 480000" where 111 is dpad up00:53
jogahmm..guess wiki has some about it00:55
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jogawonder if there's a similar map for non-english layout around
joga(or in some file?)01:08
jogacan't remember anymore where to look to be honest :p01:08
DocScrutinizer05scancodes should be always same no matter which keymapping01:15
DocScrutinizer05since scancodes are lowest level hw codes that are directly linked to physical location of key on kbd01:16
jogahmm... what I'd like to do for that specific game is to tell it to use '.' for left, left arrow for down, right arrow for right and Ä for up01:16
jogait's SDL as far as I can tell01:17
DocScrutinizer05no idea about SDL01:17
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DocScrutinizer05you could use xev and check "keycode"01:21
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jogaI tried with xev but either missed or didn't find the output I was looking for01:22
jogaI'll try again..01:22
DocScrutinizer05xev shows whole x-message data, incl raw keycode which never changes01:22
gomiamLava_Croft: finally managed to install everything I need for tweetian... trying to log in01:22
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DocScrutinizer05joga: except xev seems not available on N900? :-o01:24
jogaDocScrutinizer05, I do have it actually but seems it has focus problems, my keyb input goes to the terminal I started it from01:24
DocScrutinizer05that's kinda normal01:25
DocScrutinizer05I think01:25
jogabut if I do xev|grep keycode on my pc and press keys on the white box, it shows them fine, on n900 I just get 'ä's in the terminal01:25
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jogatried clicking it first etc but doesn't seem to work right..01:26
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jogamight as well try the same code, seems plausible anyway01:26
DocScrutinizer05well, xev on "normal" desktop opens a new window01:26
jogayes, and I switch focus to that one to give input01:27
DocScrutinizer05for obvious reasons this has potential to kinda fail on hildon-desktop01:27
jogaI dunno, for me it does open a new window just like on pc01:27
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jogabut maybe it fails on some non-obvious level, dunno01:27
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DocScrutinizer05actually what xev does is listening but *not* handling x-input-messages01:28
DocScrutinizer05so the input still gets handled as usual01:28
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DocScrutinizer05and will end in window which has focus01:28
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DocScrutinizer05but also the window where you started xev shows the dump of x-message data01:29
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DocScrutinizer05usually the new window that xev opens has the focus01:29
DocScrutinizer05so in *this* window even mouse-events get reported01:30
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DocScrutinizer05while kbd-events are x-messages that are gobal to all windows01:30
DocScrutinizer05so xev reports them no matter which window has focus01:30
DocScrutinizer05mouse-evens only get reported when they happen to/in xev new window01:31
DocScrutinizer05anyway check what option the readkey() or whatever function in SDL offers. There probably is either a flag "raw" or a return parameter "raw" or "keycode"01:32
jogaon n900 or in general? on my pc at least I need to focus the xev white window to get any output in terminal01:32
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DocScrutinizer05ooops you're right. Scrap the nonsense I told about keycodes01:33
DocScrutinizer05err kbd-events01:34
DocScrutinizer05indeed xev dumps kbd-evens only when the xev-white-win has focus01:34
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jogaah, started easydebian's lxde and ran xev in there, works better01:38
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jogabut yeah, codewise they should be correct then unless I'm overlooking something01:39
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jogathough I wonder if checking for them under lxde is a bright idea or not01:41
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DocScrutinizer05shouldn't differ from fremantle01:42
DocScrutinizer05err hildon-desktop01:43
gomiaminstalling tweetian requires some patience :-) (and I have to do strange things to switch out of it too)01:43
DocScrutinizer05joga: from backupmenu:01:44
DocScrutinizer05KEY=`/usr/sbin/evkey -u -t 1000 /dev/input/event1`01:44
DocScrutinizer05                if [ -n "$KEY" ] ; then01:44
DocScrutinizer05                        if [ $KEY == 28 ]; then #enter01:44
DocScrutinizer05keyToNum="16 22 4 17 19 24 20 8 14 15 - - - - 0 18 3 5 6 7 9 10 11 - - - - - 25 23 2 21 1 13 12"01:44
DocScrutinizer05#+16      q  w  e r  t  y  u  i o  p          a s  d f g h j k  l            z  x  c v  b n  m01:44
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DocScrutinizer05                        elif [ $KEY == 29 -o $KEY == 42 -o $KEY == 100 ]; then #alt, shift or control01:47
DocScrutinizer05                                true01:47
DocScrutinizer05                        else #normal characters - add key01:47
DocScrutinizer05from /usr/share/backupmenu/BackupMenu.item01:49
DocScrutinizer05should have all you need, not even any messing around with X or SDL01:50
DocScrutinizer05the trick is:  /usr/sbin/evkey -u -t 1000 /dev/input/event101:50
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gomiamok, almost done it seems: tweetian works ok, and now I need to know where to press to get back the the n900 program selection thingy :-)01:55
jogaDocScrutinizer05, thanks, just had to add a small wait there, sleep 1; echo now; evkey -u -t 1000 /dev/input/event1, because it was swallowing my enter up01:56
DocScrutinizer05while :; do  /usr/sbin/evkey -u -t 1000 /dev/input/event1; done01:56
jogaso I got 103 for output from the Ä button, 0x67 and tried to add it to conf but doesn't seem like it works01:57
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LjL-Alpsi guess maybe crashing is my N900's way of telling me "no, i don't support RDS through V4L"01:58
jogaDocScrutinizer05, ye that's better, probably should make an ascii map out of this so that others don't need to bother... :)01:58
DocScrutinizer05it's not ASCII, it's keymap (X,Y)01:59
jogaDocScrutinizer05, I mean a post like this
DocScrutinizer05IOW, your Ä key is my UP key01:59
jogawell I wonder now if it's at all possible to get this without changing the layout02:01
jogaactually now that I looked more closely, the codes in the config file (for CSB) aren't the same as in the post above for the left/right arrow keys, so I'm just doing it wrong anyway02:05
jogait maps UDLR as 111,112,114,11302:07
jogawhich I figured would map to the keys in the post but apparently not since that's 111,116,113,11402:07
jogaoh, crap, hold on..02:08
DocScrutinizer05the post is complete gibberish to me, nfc what it is meant to say02:09
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DocScrutinizer05here is my output of /usr/sbin/evkey -u -t 1000 /dev/input/event1 for SYM...BS; FUN..CR; Shift...RIGHT(US keymat)  -- thus upper-left right then down, till lower-right:   29 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 51 14;   100 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 52 103 28(CR);   42(shift) 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 57(space) 105 108 10602:20
DocScrutinizer0529=ctrl, 14=backspace02:21
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DocScrutinizer05joga: this should be identical to yours, no matter which keymapping and which keymat you got02:22
DocScrutinizer05it's the raw scancodes as show up in /dev/input/event102:23
jogaDocScrutinizer05, so it seems, in this case I guess it's just a problem with sdl getting the arrow keys, which is not unheard of of course. I did however just find this which seems to make the layout switching at least as quick as possible and it seems to work02:23
DocScrutinizer05you hardly get closer to the raw hardware02:24
jogaso for the time being I think I'll just use this since there's a couple of other games that have such probs02:24
jogathanks for all the help again02:24
DocScrutinizer05direct reading from /dev/input/event1 will not give you any problems that other SDL games might have02:25
DocScrutinizer05it just gives you the problem of not handling focus at all02:25
DocScrutinizer05IOW your game will +always* see the imput from kbd when reading from /dev/input/event1, no matter if in foreground or hidden02:26
jogathe config offers two modes of input, "key" and "scan", thought at first it would just be a problem that I used "key" there, but tried it with "scan" too02:26
jogayup now it works great :)02:27
joga(with the applet, just reverted to default config again for csb)02:28
joganow all I need is a magnifying glass heh02:28
gomiamLava_Croft: thanks for pointing me to tweetian and that tmo link. I'm able to use Twitter now.02:29
gomiamsee you all02:29
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DrCodehi all04:51
DrCodeI am trying to use car kit with maemo04:51
DrCodeit seems that the car ewcognize pbap but dosn't download my phonebook04:51
DrCodeI have open syslog and there is some error:  osso-addressbook[1551]: GLIB WARNING ** mc-client - Unrecognized presence `online'04:51
DrCodeany idea?04:51
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DrCodeI did10:54
DrCodehi DocScrutinizer0510:54
DrCodeI did install all pkgs10:54
DrCodemy car start download but say no enterys10:55
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jogaDocScrutinizer05, heh now I realized the default keybindings were unusable anyway so I just circumvented the arrow key problem by remapping the movement controls to the left side of keyboard, makes much more sense that way since you need to click stuff with the other hand at the same time :) should've probably done that from the start..11:06
Sysaxedjoga: to the left side? like wasd?11:11
jogaSysaxed, yeah but in this case SZXC because QWER already had a function and didn't bother moving them around11:12
joga(or actually A and D are used for turning, so ASDZXC :)11:13
Sysaxedand, umm, how are you typing then?11:13
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jogaSysaxed, this is just for a game chaos strikes back, the dungeon master expansion11:13
jogaie. no need to type really beyond naming your characters or so11:14
Sysaxedah ok11:14
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Klpacan anyone link me to kp52 as here it is only kp51r1 available
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DocScrutinizer05((should've probably done that from the start..)) prolly what you should've done is: allow user to config keymapping to her/his liking12:01
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jogaDocScrutinizer05, it does allow that, that's what I used :) wish there just was an easy remapping menu or something so one wouldn't need to do so much guesswork12:03
joganow only problem is that it doesn't seem to be able to scale the game to fill the entire screen, so it's a bit tiny but it's more of a minor problem I guess12:04
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Klpasorry guys got it12:08
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jogaDocScrutinizer05, though actually, in this case the reason for there not being an easy menu is likely because most of the keys are actually sort of hacks, that send a mouse click to certain coordinates of the game screen, so to attack etc you don't need to click the sword icons individually, but it's not built-in to the original game itself12:11
jogathough the engine could have such a menu, would be nice ;p12:12
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DrCodehi all13:40
DrCodeit worked13:40
DrCodeI had to upgrade also bluez13:40
DrCodeto 4.9913:40
DrCodecan I use syncevultion to backup and edit my contacts?13:40
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DrCodeI don't have windows os , I am using linux13:41
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DrCodesyncevolution is client for sync server or somthing?13:49
gryfor syncing evolution, where evolution is a mail and calendar suite13:52
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* Lava_Croft mumbles something about a company called Google that recently launched a search engine that allows people to search the web for information13:58
DrCodehow can I install sync evoltuin13:58
DrCodeI understand I can use syncevolution client to sync google contacts?13:59
DrCodeor I need only install  Syncevolution-Frontend?13:59
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japa-fiI have email with attachment and the sending fails prior it even gets to the point of asking password for smtpa. Where can I see what is the issue (any log somewhere)?14:26
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LjL-Alpsis there any way to tweak the accelerometer thresholds that decide when you're in portrait and when you're in landscape? because to trigger, i need to keep the phone quite unnaturally vertical15:22
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DocScrutinizer05alas no16:08
DocScrutinizer05but your problem is unusual anyway. Try reboot16:09
DocScrutinizer05err, powercycle16:11
DocScrutinizer05reboot might not be enough16:11
DocScrutinizer05or use spirit level or similar app to check accelerometer16:13
kerioDocScrutinizer05: infobot16:13
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DrCodejust an update16:36
DrCodemy car kit working perfect16:37
DrCodeI just update bluze and now its working16:37
DrCodeI can also use bt audio16:37
DrCodegreat phone16:38
DrCodeI also found that I can sync my contacts with syncevolution16:38
DrCodeerrmming-ng for calander and syncevoltuion for contacts16:39
DrCodenow I just need offline imap for gmail16:39
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RaimuDrCode: Doesn't CSSU-modest have offline-imap now?23:02
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TriztDoes someone have the Quassel2Go for maemo? It seem to have disappeared from the repos and online23:41
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Triztmerlin1991: you saved me, things been a bit messy after I briked my phone23:57
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