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| Wizzup | hello | 01:48 |
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| LjL | uhm, been struggling to make the A part of A-GPS work without success until now i read on TMO that other people have recently started having the same problem... namely, the SUPL server that's supl.nokia.com by default stopped working at some point, people switched to supl.google.com, but that apparently stopped working too now. is there a known way to make either work again, or another server to use? | 02:53 |
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| * drathir must fix usb port :/ | 03:01 | |
| drathir | im shocked why that often used parts wasnt maked more solid :/ | 03:01 |
| LjL | :\ | 03:02 |
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| ecc2g | it probably was because nokia did not expect the pcb metal to be so weakly attached to the fr4 | 03:02 |
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| ecc2g | they did those thermal attaches for a reason: to make sure it will solder together before melting other stuff... | 03:03 |
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| ecc2g | now, why syncevolution broke, I will never know...but after clearing configs and setting it up again, it works once more. | 03:07 |
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| drathir | interesting if i find place where can fix that... :p | 03:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~usbfix | 03:17 |
| infobot | [usbfix] http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) | 03:17 |
| drathir | or need to find external charger and second battery.. | 03:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | better fix usb. You'll need to flash eventually | 03:20 |
| drathir | DocScrutinizer05: i even want to try but nokia attach strange smaller scuba than e51 have... | 03:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | scuba? | 03:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway | 03:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [notice] I tried to finally get rid of that friggin libx11-xcb1_1.1.99.6+0m5+withxcb, for good | 03:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | deleted the files from repository hard (root shell) | 03:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | now I hope there's only a new packages.gz build pending to return to semi-working state | 03:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | NOOOOOOOO!!!!! it got imported AGAIN!! | 03:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | but this time it didn't result in any new files showing up on repo | 03:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/libx/libx11/libx11-data_1.1.99.6+0m5+withxcb_all.deb :-P | 03:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | this is such a shite, this maemo midgard and whatnot cruft | 03:34 |
| LjL | ~ supl | 03:36 |
| infobot | supl.nokia.com known to be broken, use alternatives like supl.google.com! Adjusting this detail is via settings screen | 03:36 |
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| drathir | DocScrutinizer05: scubadriver if good remember... | 03:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | screw? | 03:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~dict screw | 03:51 |
| infobot | Dictionary 'screw' (1 of 16): someone who guards prisoners . | 03:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lol | 03:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~dict screwdriver | 03:51 |
| infobot | Dictionary 'screwdriver' (3): a cocktail made with vodka and orange juice ;; A tool for turning screws so as to drive them into their place. It has a thin end which enters the nick in the head of the screw. [1913 Webster] ;; a hand tool for driving screws; has a tip that fits into the head of a screw. | 03:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, at least... :-D | 03:51 |
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| LjL-Maemo | Wee, connectivity | 04:00 |
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| drathir | DocScrutinizer05: yes correct... | 04:05 |
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| kerio | wait, what | 08:31 |
| kerio | supl.google.com stopped working too? :O | 08:31 |
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| joga | kerio, what, nooo | 08:47 |
| kerio | i hope not | 08:47 |
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| kerio | so | 10:38 |
| kerio | it appears that supl.google.com doesn't quite work ._. | 10:38 |
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| kerio | waaaait | 10:40 |
| kerio | it was set at supl.nokia.com | 10:41 |
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| kerio | supl.google.com works | 10:42 |
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| joga | phew | 10:47 |
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| sardini_ | is yesterday last update cssu? | 11:04 |
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| peterbjornx | does anyone here know anything about the n900 and making alt. batterys? | 11:21 |
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| psycho_oreos | sardini_, 1) It's best to ask in #maemo-ssu, 2) It probably won't be the last update, there seems to be new patches here and there that are coming through along with some issues with CSSU updates. 3) Depending on which flavour you have, CSSU-S is somewhat far from CSSU-T and bleeding edge is CSSU-D. | 11:32 |
| kerio | peterbjornx: alt. batteries? | 11:33 |
| kerio | cssu-devel isn't a cssu flavour | 11:33 |
| kerio | it's just random packages | 11:33 |
| kerio | it's intended as a way for devs to push packages that can't fit in extras-devel | 11:33 |
| kerio | hell, cssu-devel doesn't *exist* | 11:33 |
| psycho_oreos | Ahh I thought the devel was one of those hidden repositories :) | 11:33 |
| kerio | there's a repo for personal use called community-devel | 11:34 |
| kerio | it's publicly available, to use at your own peril | 11:34 |
| brolin_empey | ~cssu | 11:35 |
| infobot | cssu is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | 11:35 |
| peterbjornx | kerio: i've got a 3.7 v 1.7Ah logitec li-ion battery that i want to use for my n900 | 11:35 |
| kerio | cssu-thumb is a modified cssu-testing with a lot of recompiled packages | 11:35 |
| kerio | peterbjornx: does it fit? :o | 11:35 |
| peterbjornx | no but my n900 isnt anywere near stock shape anyway | 11:36 |
| kerio | lol | 11:36 |
| kerio | does it have a shape? | 11:36 |
| psycho_oreos | Supposedly cssu-thumb takes advantage of the processor's capability (once it is unlocked). | 11:36 |
| kerio | no, it's just a faster compiler configured to use a slightly more space-efficient instruction set | 11:37 |
| kerio | to use that instruction set, however, you need a workaround in the kernel for a silicon errata | 11:37 |
| * brolin_empey got 2 new Nokia BL-5J batteries for a cash donation of 5 CAD to his local hack(er)space. | 11:38 | |
| kerio | peterbjornx: well, grab a bl-5j, remove the cap, connect the wires | 11:39 |
| psycho_oreos | Yeah the instruction set I don't think was enabled by default (re: thumb) no? At least that's how I read it about cssu-thumb stuff. There were two patches to the kernel that were needed to use thumb mode. | 11:39 |
| kerio | a kernel patch and a bugfix in the linker iirc | 11:40 |
| kerio | and there's nothing to enable, it's just a matter of using it | 11:40 |
| * psycho_oreos shrugs. | 11:40 | |
| brolin_empey | kerio: Is errata singular? Or is errata the plural form of erratum? | 11:43 |
| kerio | not entirely sure | 11:43 |
| sardini_ | CSSU Package(thumb) . Package missing libvte-common (>= 1:0.16.14-Omh9.m7) libvte4(>=1:0.16.14-0mh9.m7) | 11:45 |
| sardini_ | seems to be a package issue and maybe not because of usb | 11:46 |
| kerio | sardini_: pastebin the output of `apt-cache policy libvte-common` | 11:46 |
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| brolin_empey | drathir: I had to have Nokia USA replace my first N900 under warranty because I could not find a local place which could fix the USB connector. That was a hassle because I live in Canada, not the so-called United States of America. | 12:02 |
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| sardini_ | brolin_empey, broken usb connector too, I use 2 battery and an external cherger | 12:03 |
| sardini_ | charger | 12:03 |
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| brolin_empey | The N900 was not even released in Canada. :/ | 12:04 |
| brolin_empey | Even though at least some of its predecessors were. | 12:05 |
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| * brolin_empey has had some negative experiences with crossing the border between Canada and the USA. Some of the staff at the border crossings seem to mistakenly believe that I am working for them instead of vice versa. | 12:17 | |
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| * brolin_empey does not want to live in the USA for various reasons. | 12:28 | |
| peterbjornx | i hope that liion is gonna be charged anytime soon | 12:30 |
| peterbjornx | i gotta get my train to OHM2013 in a hour | 12:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | [notice] tmo down due to xen vif bug | 13:22 |
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| *** DocScrutinizer05 changes topic to "talk.maemo.org down | Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet" | 13:23 | |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | [notice] tmo back to normal | 13:54 |
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| *** DocScrutinizer05 changes topic to "Welcome to #maemo http://maemo.org/intro/ | N9/harmattan related questions please in #harmattan ! | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council | Source: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sources | Chanlog: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | #maemo-ssu is where the (few) devels and maintainers of the maemo-future meet" | 13:57 | |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: that's not a notice at all! | 14:09 |
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| -kerio- this is a notice! | 14:09 | |
| japa-fi | TMO? | 14:10 |
| psycho_oreos | talk.maemo.org | 14:10 |
| psycho_oreos | Thanks DocScrutinizer05 for addressing that issue, I was wondering for a brief moment what happened to tmo :D | 14:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Jul 30 12:04:07 blade-b kernel: vif vif-2-0 vif2.0: Frag is bigger than frame. | 14:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Jul 30 12:04:07 blade-b kernel: vif vif-2-0 vif2.0: fatal error; disabling device | 14:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Jul 30 12:04:07 blade-b kernel: xenbr1: port 3(vif2.0) entered disabled state | 14:12 |
| kerio | fuckin xen | 14:12 |
| kerio | why are we encountering so many problems? | 14:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the funny xen bug once again, which our brilliant sysops were able to track down and report and even fix to some extent on their own | 14:13 |
| kerio | isn't it supposed to be reliable? | 14:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: nope, this bug hits *all* XEN installations worldwide | 14:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | a simple workaround is via some parameter offload=no, which in theory could reduce VIF performance by a few percent but didn't for us | 14:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | until some months ago, XEN silently discarded such frag>frame packets. Recent releases have a patch that disables the VIF, and without xes' kernel patches, dom0 kernel even threw a OOPS and you had to reboot dom0 to recover VIF | 14:17 |
| Wizzup | btw, I replaced a digitizer for someone and he needs to put more pressure on the screen when using his fingers -- probably not a very good digitizer | 14:19 |
| Wizzup | Is there a way to set the threshold pressure for the n900? | 14:19 |
| Wizzup | more pressure than usual* | 14:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the really "funny" detail in all this: frag resp framesize is a kernel buildtime parameter, and when the parameters of dom0 and domU kernels don't match, then at arbitrary moments - even after months of flawless operation - this "Frag is bigger than frame." hits. And there's no way to even *check* for compatibility of dom0 and domU kernels, since you obviously can't query frag/frame-size | 14:20 |
| kerio | neato | 14:21 |
| kerio | does recompiling every kernel to make sure that the parameters match fix it? | 14:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure, that would help | 14:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and HAH, maybe tmo / chem|st did a system update on tmo, introducing a new kernel | 14:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which might explain why we see that bug now, for first time | 14:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on tmo | 14:27 |
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| SmokeyD | hey all. I have an N900, and python running with the python-osso-abook module on it (downloaded from svn). The module works fine, but I don't know what the properties are that i can check on a Contact. Are there any docs on this anywhere? | 14:30 |
| SmokeyD | I can't find them | 14:30 |
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| LjL-Maemo | Hmm, the irc thing that integrates with Conversations, while sleek, seems a bit unsuited to heavy irc use. The other irc clients i've spotted look moderately horrid... | 15:20 |
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| kerio | xchat? irssi? | 15:22 |
| LjL | yeah, i was kinda hoping there would be a properly hildon-looking client. xchat looks basically like its desktop version | 15:22 |
| Sc0rpius | freemangordon, ping | 15:25 |
| Sc0rpius | autobuilder keeps failing now with a little different error | 15:25 |
| Sc0rpius | it's not size mismatch but a 404 Not Found: | 15:25 |
| Sc0rpius | Failed to fetch http://stage/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/libx/libx11/libx11-data_1.1.99.6+0m5+withxcb_all.deb 404 Not Found | 15:26 |
| Sc0rpius | E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? | 15:26 |
| Sc0rpius | but same package. | 15:26 |
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| SmokeyD | I figured everything out. This is a nice sample script for use with python python-osso-abook module: http://bpaste.net/show/zB5iEdBA613pD4f08FqS/ | 15:41 |
| Lava_Croft | http://i.minus.com/ibaDjk7AeIcvxv.gif | 15:41 |
| SmokeyD | It exports all contacts modified after a specific date (2011-08-27 in this case) | 15:41 |
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| LjL-Pidgin1 | Hm qutim looks fancy, i had to switch the irc module to libpurple to make it work though | 16:18 |
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| LjL | my memory is terrible - i think i had installed something, the other day, that facilitated enabling/disabling vibration, not sure if from the status menu or what. by default, unless "General" is with vibration and "Silent" is without or vice versa, to change vibration settings, you'd have to go into the Settings, there's no faster way, right? i don't remember what it might have been that made it easier. | 17:22 |
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| kerio | LjL: the profile applet in the status menu always let you toggle vibration | 17:56 |
| kerio | it's stock | 17:56 |
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| freemangordon | Sc0rpius: ping | 18:11 |
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| Pali | ~zImage-fb | 18:12 |
| infobot | i guess zimage-fb is on http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/maemo/kernels/framebuffer/ | 18:12 |
| kerio | Pali: hald-addon-bme reports a wrong battery capacity now | 18:12 |
| Pali | kerio: design? last max? or current? | 18:13 |
| kerio | design isn't reported anywhere in the n900 | 18:13 |
| kerio | so last max, i guess | 18:13 |
| freemangordon | Pali: design | 18:13 |
| kerio | actually, last full too | 18:14 |
| Pali | ok, I will look at it | 18:14 |
| * Pali writing note | 18:14 | |
| kerio | Pali: await pastebin | 18:14 |
| Pali | $ hal-device bme | 18:14 |
| Pali | and also | 18:14 |
| Pali | $ lshal | 18:14 |
| kerio | http://pastebin.com/rLWJivTG | 18:15 |
| freemangordon | battery.reporting.design = 1267 (0x4f3) (int) | 18:16 |
| freemangordon | looks fine | 18:16 |
| kerio | even if you want to keep using the silly design report, last full as provided by bq27k is 1574 | 18:16 |
| kerio | freemangordon: last full | 18:16 |
| freemangordon | battery.reporting.last_full = 1267 (0x4f3) (int) | 18:17 |
| freemangordon | is that BME? | 18:17 |
| ecc2g | read third pin resistor = "design capacity"? | 18:17 |
| freemangordon | ecc2g: this is what bme replacement does | 18:17 |
| kerio | freemangordon: hald-addon-bme | 18:17 |
| Pali | kerio: where is problem? | 18:18 |
| freemangordon | kerio: do you have rx51battery module loaded? | 18:18 |
| Pali | are values different as from /sys/class/power? | 18:18 |
| freemangordon | Pali: btw I had the same problem as the guy on tmo | 18:19 |
| Pali | ok | 18:19 |
| freemangordon | my charge was something about 500mAh | 18:19 |
| Pali | I need output from lshal and from /sys/class/power | 18:19 |
| freemangordon | the reported capacity was 200 mAh :D | 18:19 |
| kerio | Pali: LMD is 1574 | 18:19 |
| kerio | (taken from /sys/class/power...) | 18:20 |
| freemangordon | Pali: sorry, I was at the sea shore by that time and fishing :D | 18:20 |
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| freemangordon | didn;t take those outputs | 18:20 |
| Pali | kerio: do you have loaded rx51_battery modele? | 18:20 |
| freemangordon | will check what is going on if it happens again | 18:20 |
| Pali | It looks like hald-addon-bme do not allow high value as from design | 18:21 |
| Pali | I do not remember how it is working... :-) | 18:21 |
| kerio | Pali: acehack.de/~kerio/lshal | 18:21 |
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| Lava_Croft | now thats proper url posting | 18:21 |
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| Lava_Croft | good job | 18:21 |
| freemangordon | Pali: we had some formula | 18:21 |
| kerio | http://acehack.de/~kerio/stfu | 18:22 |
| kerio | formula? | 18:22 |
| kerio | for what? | 18:22 |
| Pali | kerio: you have loaded rx51_battery module | 18:22 |
| kerio | you always told me to keep it loaded | 18:22 |
| Pali | and hald-addon-bme using last capacity as max(rx51_battery value, last bq27 value) | 18:23 |
| Pali | not max, but min | 18:23 |
| kerio | that's fucking dumb, bq27k keeps track of LMD | 18:23 |
| Pali | I know, need to add some gconf key to disable rx51_battery in hald-addon-bme | 18:24 |
| Pali | so this is not bug, but design feature :-) | 18:24 |
| kerio | but why does it cap the value, regardless? | 18:24 |
| Pali | I will try to change it | 18:24 |
| kerio | it makes no sense | 18:24 |
| kerio | if bq27k is reporting a higher lmd than rx51's design then it's a lot more likely that the latter is wrong | 18:25 |
| kerio | rather than the former | 18:25 |
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| SAiF | Quick questiion, qill N900 support UHS memory cards? | 18:26 |
| SAiF | *will | 18:26 |
| kerio | yes, but not at max speed, iirc | 18:26 |
| SAiF | what will be max transfer speeds that it can support? | 18:27 |
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| Sc0rpius | freemangordon, pong | 18:30 |
| freemangordon | Sc0rpius: now the autobuilder should work, mind to reupload yappari to test? | 18:30 |
| Sc0rpius | ok lemme try | 18:31 |
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| Sc0rpius | looks like it worked | 18:45 |
| Sc0rpius | :) | 18:45 |
| freemangordon | hmm, don;t see it in the queue | 18:48 |
| freemangordon | maybe I am not looking at the right place | 18:48 |
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| freemangordon | Sc0rpius: did you increase the version? | 18:51 |
| freemangordon | ooh, build succeeded :) | 18:52 |
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| Sc0rpius | yeah it worked :) | 18:52 |
| freemangordon | good | 18:52 |
| Sc0rpius | I increased the version because I fixed a couple of bugs in the meantime | 18:53 |
| freemangordon | hmm, doesn;t look good http://maemo.org/packages/view/yappari/ | 18:53 |
| freemangordon | latest version is missing | 18:53 |
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| freemangordon | maybe it needs some time to be copied | 18:55 |
| SmokeyD | !gcalc 1033 USD Iin Euro | 18:57 |
| SmokeyD | !gcalc 1033 USD in Euro | 18:57 |
| SmokeyD | !gcalc 1033 Dollar in Euro | 18:57 |
| Sc0rpius | I wonder if we will ever import packages to extras | 18:57 |
| Sc0rpius | the karma system and all that stuff never worked anymore | 18:57 |
| Sc0rpius | the votes | 18:57 |
| Sc0rpius | etc. | 18:57 |
| Sc0rpius | it usually takes a while to that package page to refresh | 18:58 |
| freemangordon | Sc0rpius: well, now the autobuilder has I maintainer we'll fix it. hopefully | 18:58 |
| Sc0rpius | actually it is not refreshed until the package is imported to extras-devel | 18:58 |
| Sc0rpius | and that takes a little while, like an hour | 18:58 |
| Sc0rpius | http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/yappari/1.0.37/ | 18:58 |
| Sc0rpius | when the package is imported I can see there the filename, md5sum and size | 18:59 |
| freemangordon | yep | 18:59 |
| freemangordon | going to check in the repo | 18:59 |
| Sc0rpius | it must be a cron process that runs like every hour or so | 18:59 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 18:59 |
| Sc0rpius | but it works, I just give it a little time :) | 18:59 |
| freemangordon | hmm, it is here http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/y/yappari/ | 19:00 |
| freemangordon | Sc0rpius: however, I know what the problem is | 19:00 |
| freemangordon | don;t worry | 19:00 |
| Sc0rpius | I didn't even know there was a problem :/ | 19:00 |
| Sc0rpius | I usually wait an hour and everything gets right | 19:00 |
| freemangordon | sure there is | 19:00 |
| Wizzup | If it's in extras-devel, does that mean its foss now? | 19:01 |
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| shawnjefferson22 | ~seen DocScrutinizer05 | 19:53 |
| infobot | docscrutinizer05 is currently on #maemo #n9 #harmattan #meego #openmoko #maemo-ssu #infobot #openmoko-cdevel. Has said a total of 86 messages. Is idling for 2h 25m 11s, last said: 'yw'. | 19:53 |
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| shawnjefferson22 | yes, in #maemo anyway | 19:54 |
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