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| shawnjefferson22 | what's the best way to set ownership to user:users on a file in my deb package? postinst script? | 07:18 |
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| Macer | hm | 08:29 |
| Macer | pondering what the difference is in this (thumb) update heh | 08:29 |
| * Macer punches his n900 | 08:29 | |
| Macer | i wonder if this sociality update works | 08:30 |
| freemangordon | Macer: hmm? I remember I wrote a changelog :P | 08:30 |
| Macer | i know the one i tried from the last time off the repo wouldnt read the news feed | 08:30 |
| Macer | oh.. where is it? | 08:30 |
| Macer | sorry... didnt see it | 08:30 |
| Macer | no better thumb keyboard heh | 08:31 |
| freemangordon | Macer: at least in 2 places - TMO and debian/changelog. You'll see the latter in description tab once you start the update | 08:31 |
| Macer | oh. i already updated it | 08:32 |
| Macer | let me see if i can find it on tmo | 08:32 |
| Macer | too bad thetr is no seype | 08:33 |
| Macer | wow that vkb sucks heh | 08:33 |
| Macer | but hitting enter in xterm closes and sends now | 08:33 |
| Macer | that's kind of neet | 08:34 |
| Macer | hm. | 08:34 |
| freemangordon | Macer: 13.07.2013 - 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo8.2+thumb1 | 08:34 |
| freemangordon | * packages updated to latest CSSU-testing(21.2011.38-1Tmaemo8.2) | 08:34 |
| freemangordon | * thumb-compile tracker, hildon, hildon-thumbnailer | 08:34 |
| Macer | i see | 08:35 |
| Macer | is there a better vkb somewhere? | 08:35 |
| freemangordon | Macer: better than? | 08:36 |
| Macer | one that doesnt have the dialog box and blurs out the app? ie: real time typing | 08:36 |
| Macer | the stock one is awful | 08:36 |
| freemangordon | hmm, afaik no | 08:36 |
| Macer | especially in portrait | 08:36 |
| Macer | ah ok | 08:36 |
| Macer | wish maemo had swype so it wasnt always me opening the kb and wearing out the keys | 08:37 |
| Macer | or at least a better vkb | 08:37 |
| Macer | using the stock one in xterm brings it up, blurs the term, (i guess you can turn that off) then closes | 08:37 |
| Macer | instead of simply being able to type on it | 08:38 |
| Macer | i was thinking of putting in a feature request for mobilehotspot to support pan | 08:38 |
| Macer | heh. that would be awesome. i never did figure out how to get it working :-/ | 08:39 |
| Macer | seems overly complicated compared to just turning it on in android | 08:39 |
| Macer | ah well... let me update all the pkgs heh | 08:41 |
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| Macer | news feed still seems broken in repo sociality | 09:00 |
| Macer | but half works in tmo .deb | 09:00 |
| freemangordon | Macer: IIRC you have to use the .deb on sociality thread on TMO | 09:00 |
| freemangordon | yeah :) | 09:00 |
| Macer | yeah | 09:01 |
| Macer | how odd | 09:01 |
| Macer | you would think the opposite heh | 09:01 |
| Macer | sure hope it gets updated | 09:01 |
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| Macer | leave it to the linux bcm driver to not support adhoc heh | 09:13 |
| Macer | i can't connect to an adhoc hotspot on my dell laptop running mint | 09:13 |
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| Macer | back to using dun i suppose :) | 09:15 |
| Macer | too bad android doesn't support dun :-/ | 09:15 |
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| Lava_Croft | haha | 12:46 |
| Lava_Croft | MS lost almost a bilion american dollaz on Surace RT this *quarter* | 12:46 |
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| teotwaki | Lava_Croft: link? | 13:08 |
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| Lava_Croft | http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/18/4535976/microsoft-lost-900-million-on-surface-rt | 13:20 |
| Lava_Croft | mind you, MS taking a huge loss over HW isnt exactly special | 13:22 |
| Lava_Croft | they did it for the Xbox too, but at least the Xbox was a good product | 13:22 |
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| Lava_Croft | SurfaceRT will not get anywhere | 13:23 |
| Lava_Croft | my brother has been a windows phone lover from the start, but even he gave up | 13:23 |
| Lava_Croft | he also owns SurfaceRT, worst product ever | 13:23 |
| Lava_Croft | nexus7 is a deception, but goddamn surfaceRT | 13:23 |
| Lava_Croft | also, http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2013/07/android_vs_iphone_why_apple_still_has_the_edge_over_google_s_operating_system.single.html | 13:24 |
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| SpeedEvil | A writedown isn't quite a loss. | 13:34 |
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| SpeedEvil | If you have inventory set to sell at 500, which cost you 350 to make, writing it down to 400 is a paper $100 loss - but you still profit by $50 if you sell it | 13:35 |
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| Lava_Croft | Does anyone know what the 'standard' procedure is for getting ovi maps on the n900, in 2013:P | 13:59 |
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| amin007110 | Lava_Croft, in 2012 i got them through Nokia Suite in M$! Haven't tried recently :D | 14:21 |
| Lava_Croft | that doesnt work anymore:< | 14:22 |
| Lava_Croft | thats how i used to do it too | 14:22 |
| amin007110 | :| | 14:22 |
| Lava_Croft | marble works ok tho, but its just that i kind of got attached to using that shit nokia mapping app :) | 14:22 |
| amin007110 | Is porting from another nokia devices possible? Such as symbian ones! | 14:23 |
| Lava_Croft | no clue | 14:23 |
| Lava_Croft | n9 has a fairly decent app too | 14:23 |
| Lava_Croft | there i just had it update the maps:) | 14:23 |
| amin007110 | I think data files and folders are the same in various nokia products. | 14:24 |
| amin007110 | I guess actually. | 14:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and I *think* ovimaps works still as usual for me | 14:25 |
| amin007110 | Also updating? DocScrutinizer05 ! | 14:26 |
| Lava_Croft | or installing maps to begin with | 14:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm searching and finding and displaying $random location. So everything usual | 14:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | as usual | 14:27 |
| Lava_Croft | yes, that still works | 14:27 |
| Lava_Croft | i wasnt saying the application stopped functioning:) | 14:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you're aware that searching is online function, and $random-location above implied I had no cached data for it | 14:29 |
| Lava_Croft | and you want to download the Germany maps that way? | 14:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | no | 14:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | why would I want to do that? | 14:30 |
| amin007110 | offline use | 14:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since offline use gives away extremely expensive data (navtech map) without earning anything in turn, I guess Wokia has taken active measures to forbid it | 14:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | downloading and caching of small areas still offers some info you pay with for that navteq map data | 14:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | particularly that you're probably in this region, or at least looking at it | 14:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | giving away whole countries' map data for free via download is a net loss for Nokia | 14:37 |
| Lava_Croft | you can still get the entire countries via direct links | 14:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a few years afo a CD with that data was ~150EUR | 14:37 |
| amin007110 | well, sometimes we have no access to a reliable data plan or speed is down or something. | 14:38 |
| amin007110 | From the Nokia Side, yes. but from our side :D | 14:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ((<amin007110> Also updating? DocScrutinizer05 !)) I literally never touched nokiasuite. So NFC. Inside ovimaps app I don't see any explicit download/update function | 14:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I *think* Nokia discontinued Nokiasuite | 14:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I dunno how smart ovimaps-fremantle acts. If it's smarter than I think it is, then it downloads all tiles needed for a route you calculated online anyway | 15:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and sure, I guess it's been inevitable that Nokia implements some leecher-filters to stop arbitrary non-Nokia-customers to download whole navteq database for free | 15:08 |
| amin007110 | Hmmmm... | 15:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so whatever they did (throttling, obfuscating, check for client/browser-ID), you should expect to see some problems trying to download whole continents' map-data | 15:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SPI can go a long way to take care about that, server side | 15:11 |
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| Lava_Croft | ill try poking at the latest map data | 16:58 |
| Lava_Croft | see if direct downloading and installing them by hand still works for the maemo5 maps app | 16:58 |
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| fw190 | morning | 18:37 |
| fw190 | any news from the new Board? | 18:38 |
| win7mac | good morning;) | 18:38 |
| fw190 | I mean is there something an ex candidate could help with | 18:38 |
| fw190 | ;) | 18:38 |
| win7mac | thanks for the offer. Here's the meeting minutes from 1st new board-(handover-)meeting: http://hildonfoundation.org/board-minutes-for-meeting-on-july-16th-2013-1909-utc/ | 18:41 |
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| win7mac | OFC you can always come up with ideas and suggestions, not sure what to help with right now though | 18:44 |
| fw190 | nice | 18:45 |
| fw190 | a state when help is not needed is good as it means everything runs smooth | 18:45 |
| fw190 | which means you all nedd a raise ;) | 18:45 |
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| GeneralAntilles | http://twitter.com/MichaelClewley/status/358262538271596544 | 19:45 |
| GeneralAntilles | What a moron. | 19:45 |
| thedead1440 | lol | 19:46 |
| thedead1440 | typical BB/iOS/WP reps... | 19:46 |
| GeneralAntilles | If anybody else wants to (politely) chime in. | 19:47 |
| win7mac | hey thedead1440, how's your N9? - there's no progress on tweak flash version so far :( | 19:48 |
| thedead1440 | win7mac: no progress on my n9 too :( | 19:49 |
| thedead1440 | s/n9/n9s/ | 19:49 |
| infobot | thedead1440 meant: win7mac: no progress on my n9s too :( | 19:49 |
| ecc3g | <- no twitter account, else Clewley has no clew... | 19:51 |
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| win7mac | :/ | 19:53 |
| GeneralAntilles | http://twitter.com/MichaelClewley/status/358267885866590209 | 19:56 |
| GeneralAntilles | lol | 19:56 |
| thedead1440 | haha | 19:58 |
| thedead1440 | no wonder bb10 is sinking with product managers like him... | 19:58 |
| ecc3g | wow. | 19:59 |
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| GeneralAntilles | ecc3g, I've gotten useful help and responses out of him before, so nobody needs to tear him a new one. | 20:00 |
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| ecc3g | ah okay. I still can't believe he thinks plaintext mails have no use... | 20:02 |
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| * ecc3g checks modest... "New message format: Plain text" ahhh... | 20:04 | |
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| GeneralAntilles | http://twitter.com/MichaelClewley/status/358269611508105217 | 20:07 |
| GeneralAntilles | There's a Princess Bride quote that applies here. | 20:07 |
| ecc3g | oh...kay... /facepalm | 20:08 |
| ecc3g | technically speaking, if he as talking about html/rtf mail being "proprietary"... still doesn't solve the problem at hand though. | 20:09 |
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| Sicelo | maybe someonr will find this very useful :) | 20:57 |
| Sicelo | http://elektranox.org/n900/adapter/index.html | 20:57 |
| Sicelo | serial adapter for use on N900 | 20:57 |
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| Pali | it is possible to flash phone via serial adapter? | 21:23 |
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| Sicelo | i don't know Pali.. but I thought this adapter would be of great use to you especially, freemangordon too ;) | 21:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Sicelo: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/share-service/20130719_002.jpg | 22:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ff | 22:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | alas fbus. would need minor mech rework for UART | 22:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: basically yes | 22:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | coldflash/ROMBL | 22:05 |
| Sicelo | looks nice DocScrutinizer05. why you never shared before? | 22:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | donno about NOLO | 22:05 |
| * Sicelo kicks DocScrutinizer05 | 22:06 | |
| Sicelo | :D | 22:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I did | 22:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | search tmo | 22:06 |
| Sicelo | hmm, will look | 22:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | eventually ovishare gone down and took those photos with it | 22:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | a severe flaw of our forum software | 22:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | those embedded photos inevitably render a form/tmo post bitrotten to oblivion eventually | 22:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | forum* | 22:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I haven't completely figured yet how to attach photos instead of link them from other website | 22:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway that critter been so dirt cheap, I couldn't resist but had to order one | 22:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 4.95 iirc | 22:11 |
| Sicelo | critter? you mean the adapter? | 22:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, I already mentioned it a few times, but here again: I got some 20+ bupbat coin 0.06F capacitors, to replace that PR414 or whatever backup battery | 22:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | available for 3bucks per coin | 22:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (yes, the adapter) | 22:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~bupbat | 22:14 |
| infobot | rumour has it, bupbat is use the capacitive type, LiIon are breaking during 12 months, or http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/PAS414HR-VG1/587-2157-1-ND/1959153, or https://hbe-shop.de/KONDENSATOR006F-33V-STAKED-COIN | 22:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | "I got me three beers and a fistful of downs | 22:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and I'm gonna get ripped, so f***, you clowns!" | 22:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Then she gave us the finger, it was rigid and stiff | 22:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | That's when the devil, he farted | 22:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and she went right over the cliff! | 22:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IOW, cya | 22:18 |
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| ecc3g | woah... how long have I been sleeping, 1KF capacitors are available... | 22:23 |
| ecc3g | or are they really available... | 22:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | i'd bet on that | 22:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I even think I've seen them surplus | 22:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for <100 bucks a piece | 22:49 |
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