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ecc3gfinally installed cssu-stable :o00:46
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GeneralAntilleswin7mac, I need to pick your brain about DSLR videography some time.00:49
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omgmogHas anybody got Firefox OS (B2G) working on their N900?00:52
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GeneralAntilleswin7mac, been playing with the hacked Panasonic GH1/2 stuff.00:58
GeneralAntillesImpressive for the price range.00:58
win7macabsolutely and its even sharper than 5Dmark201:00
win7macwhich would nevertheless be one step up01:01
win7macbut also in price01:01
win7macsharpness is enough though01:01
win7macfor video01:02
GeneralAntillesyeah, wish Canon's downsampling weren't so mediocre01:03
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GeneralAntillesI have a 7D01:03
win7machad 7D too and sold it, because 720p50 was unusable blurry01:04
win7macbut very good for foto01:04
win7maclook at 5Dmark3 if you can afford01:05
win7macif you wanna proceed01:05
GeneralAntillesYeah, have been01:06
win7macor C100 if your serious about video01:06
GeneralAntillesOut of my range for the moment01:06
GeneralAntillesMaybe once we start legitimately shooting things.01:06
GeneralAntillesNot enough time/drive lately.01:06
win7macif you already got lenses, stick to GH-201:06
win7macprobably upgrade to GH-301:07
GeneralAntillesMy friend is on Panasonic01:09
GeneralAntillesI'm all Canon01:09
win7macah, ok01:09
win7macwell, 7D is not bad, it has some nice features. first I was in love with it01:10
win7macwhat are you shooting?01:10
GeneralAntillesNot enough01:12
GeneralAntillesWe did a promo video for a local sculptor01:13
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GeneralAntillesShot a fashion show last year01:13
GeneralAntillesNeed to shoot a commercial for work01:13
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win7macget a good set of lenses and make sure the camera stays steady01:14
win7macoh and make sure you get some atmo-sound, most underestimated...01:15
GeneralAntillesZoom H4 and H4n01:16
win7macyou got smth!01:16
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GeneralAntillesGot a pair of Sennheiser lav mics and a shotgun mic, too.01:18
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win7macwhen choosing glass, beware that you have a crop camera (APS-C). All focal distances given for dslr lenses are for fullframe cameras (35mm). so basically a 50mm lens is a 80mm on your 7D01:19
win7macyour audio equipm. sounds good01:20
GeneralAntillesPart of why I went with the 7D is that I love shooting wildlife photography01:20
GeneralAntillesShutter speed + crop work out really well for that.01:20
GeneralAntilles100-400 and 100mm macro L.01:21
win7macoh, been ther, done that...
win7macused 7D for it!01:22
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GeneralAntillesI noticed the DSLR stuff on your site last night, which I why I mentioned it today01:23
GeneralAntillesNeed to watch some of the videos.01:23
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win7macwell, 1st video on that site is what I mean01:24
win7macthe other 2 were shot with sony pmw ex-301:25
win7machere's some interesting DIY-stuff:
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Macerthat was a lot to read hhe06:23
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DrCodehi all08:47
DrCodeis there possible to had multiboot in n900?08:48
keriothere's uboot08:52
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DrCodeI see08:53
DrCodeI am thinking to order n900 mobile08:53
DrCodeis working update for meamo os?08:53
keriothere are community updates08:54
DrCodeI will order it , thankyou08:54
kerioa good price would be around 150€?08:55
keriomaybe even less, if it's used08:55
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Maceris there a youtube client that actually works?10:04
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Macercutetube opens the media player but then says no connection to server10:10
Macerzoutube just doesnt work at all for anything10:10
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Macermaybe cutetube is more a problem with theplayer10:14
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Macerwould be awesome if it worked10:18
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Macerso is extras-devel back to
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Macerguess so11:02
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infobot[rmo] repository.maemo.org11:09
DocScrutinizer05I'm rather sure extras-devel repo is 2back to" since ~and of January11:10
DocScrutinizer05end* of...11:10
DocScrutinizer05we're still struggling to fix all the damage done during migration#111:12
DocScrutinizer05but most *users* won't even notice any of that damage11:12
DocScrutinizer05(which also is one of the reasons why it could have sneaked in, to start with)11:13
DocScrutinizer05if somebody has comprehensive mirrors containing all the pre-migration stuff, please holler!11:14
DocScrutinizer05pre-migration means: from maybe november of last year. Either accumulative mirror (never deleting any old versions) or a backup that that never got tainted since11:16
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Maceri was just asking because devel had a cutetube update11:34
Macerwhich works :)11:34
Macerwhich is awesome11:35
Macerhas fb support t5oo11:35
Macertoo bad there isnt a very good fb client11:36
Macerfmobi was awesome but abandoned and cost money11:36
Macerhas a similar inteface to cutetube11:36
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Maceroh. i guess there is a fb client12:24
Macerim pretty sure facebrick doesnt work still12:24
* Macer kicks sociality12:24
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Macerhm. doesnt seem like the news feed updates in sociality12:27
Lava_Croftsociality needs some more update work being done on it12:27
Lava_Croftgive MohammadAG some time!12:27
Maceralthough the profile stuff seems to work12:27
Lava_Croftits not like these folks get paid to develop apps for N900:)12:27
Lava_Croftand Facebook changes stuff on their side too:<12:27
Maceryah i know heh12:27
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Maceri was just surprised.12:27
Lava_Croftsociality is for now the 'best' fb client i guess12:27
Lava_Croftbut overall you are just best off doing in the browser12:27
Macerit is stuck with a rotating circle for the news feed12:28
Macernot sure if it is even doing anything :)12:28
Lava_Croftthe sociality thread has an updated .deb iirc12:28
Lava_Croftposted by MAG12:28
Lava_Croftnear the end of the thread, i reckon12:28
Macerlet me see if i can find it12:28
Lava_Croftno clue how it works or what it fixes12:28
Lava_Croftmy situation is even worse12:28
Lava_Crofti got an n9 for the social media crap12:28
Lava_Croftbut the n9 also lacks a good fb client!12:29
Lava_Croftso its all \o/12:29
Macerprobably the news feed not loading haha12:29
Macerbut id figure the one from devel is the latest12:29
Macerbut i will check12:29
Macerblah. it will take forever to find it heh12:30
Lava_Croftno it wont12:31
Lava_Croftgoogle for maemo talk sociality12:31
Lava_Croftit even has a wiki page12:31
Macerah think i found it12:32
Macerthe thread at least heh12:32
ccx_homeI see there is flasher packaged for maemo itself. Is there a initrd with it, so it could flash the root ubifs?12:33
Maceryeah. news feed wont update12:35
Lava_CroftMacer: patience then! :)12:35
Lava_Croftits a good way to care less about facebook:D12:35
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ccx_homeSosica: thanks, that doesnt really answer my question though12:37
Maceryah. seems broken. blah heh12:39
Maceroh. maybe not...12:40
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Sosicaccx_home: the different flash options are explained there. you can flash the rootfs, the eMMC or both.12:41
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Maceri guess his problem was uploading to devel12:45
Macerbecause with the deb update it seems to work12:45
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Macerthe news feed started working after i used the deb13:02
Maceralthough. it is a bit on the flakey side heh13:02
Lava_Croftsociality has always been flaky13:04
Lava_Croftthe time it takes to get the news feed is the time i need i load up and read it13:04
Maceryeah buttt the mobile fb page sucks :)13:19
Macerall the fb pages suck tbh13:19
Macerid rather use a client if i could13:19
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Macerit didnt seem to take that long13:23
Maceri sure wish the stock app manager wasnt slow as shit :)13:23
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DrCodecan I use n900 to record movie and picture? how is camrea compere to other?15:28
Lava_CroftDrCode: its a nice 5mp camera with good optics15:30
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DocScrutinizer05however embarrassing, the www VM resboot helped15:51
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japa-fiIs there specific advantage on having nitroid in one's phone, except to be able to run all the android malware? :) (phone calls are still not possible, right?)15:56
ApicAngry Birds.15:57
ApicAnd Ingress, with GPS-Mouse15:57
rikaneejapa-fi: it'll burn out your battery quicker, making you charge more, and likely force you to repair USB before it breaks ;)15:57
ApicTill somebody implements the internal GPS15:57
rikaneeApic: it's easier to cheat on Ingress with iOS though15:57
rikaneethe Ingress app on Android checks IP geolocation too ;)15:57
japa-fiAh, learned something new today. Ingress. Looks like an interesting game16:00
ApicWorld Domination.16:02
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DocScrutinizer05rebooting www VM16:35
DocScrutinizer05(internal tests)16:35
DocScrutinizer05luckily our server VMs are lightning fast16:36
DocScrutinizer05rebott finished16:37
DocScrutinizer05reboot even16:37
DocScrutinizer05another reboot, sorry16:42
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mickaelhhello !20:32
mickaelhI have difficulty to push on that could help me?20:32
mickaelhI compiled SVOX for N900 and I wish my published sources on the garage20:37
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mickaelhtext to speech20:37
sixwheeledbeastmickaelh: what exactly are you having difficulty with?20:39
mickaelhsince creating my account I had difficulties to access the GIT with or ssh://
mickaelhI can easily clone with  Git clone
mickaelhbut an error for the push:20:41
mickaelhfatal: git-http-push failed20:41
mickaelhI then tried with SSH, but no result20:41
mickaelhgit push ssh :/ / / git / SVOX20:41
mickaelhbad key.20:41
mickaelhPermission denied (publickey).20:42
mickaelhfatal: Could not read from remote repository.20:42
mickaelhEven changing the public key in on my account nothing changes.20:42
mickaelhthat's all :)20:42
mickaelhi need push my deb package20:43
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mickaelhshould we abandon the maemo garage and promote GitHub ?20:45
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DrCodehi all20:46
DrCodedose n900 come with micro usb to usb datacable? can it also charge the phone?20:46
SpeedEvilyes, it charges over USB20:47
SpeedEvilonly way to charge it20:47
DrCodeif I have car charger of samsung , is it the same like n900?20:47
DrCodeor its simple micro usb to usb20:47
DrCodelike wifi cards20:47
DrCodeall my contacts are in google , can  I reload them in n900?20:48
DrCodeI mean contact list20:49
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SpeedEvilany microusb charger works20:53
DrCodeI am looking for powerbank to n90020:53
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sixwheeledbeasteh, powerbank?20:57
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_jester_hello all20:57
SpeedEvilyou can use any 'USB battery'20:57
_jester_so my n900 finally took a stand against my constant tinkering20:57
SpeedEvil_jester_: :'(20:57
DocScrutinizer05mickaelh: the ssh key only propagates once per hour or even once per day to the other machines20:57
_jester_it had the nfs stale file handler issue, but when i fixed that, it just shows squares instead of text20:58
_jester_SpeedEvil, its not really that sad, toys can be fixed and modified :D20:58
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_jester_DocScrutinizer05, and the doc is in the house, guess you were right about the 2 weeks time20:59
DocScrutinizer05SpeedEvil: D+-20:59
SpeedEvilwell, yes.21:00
* SpeedEvil is not awake.21:00
DocScrutinizer05_jester_: hmm?21:00
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_jester_DocScrutinizer05: you said, give it 2 weeks, your phone would screw up, im guessing it arrived early since it was overclocked :P21:01
DocScrutinizer05DrCode: your charging device needs data lines D+ and D- shortcircuit aka connected to each other, to enable normal fastcharging21:01
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_jester_but unfortunately the forums didnt have much search results for text turning into squares, its probably a locale issue21:02
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DocScrutinizer05DrCode: not a very commonly found thing on USB chargers, whether they are car chargers or powerpacks21:02
DocScrutinizer05_jester_: yes, usually caused by nuking /opt21:03
DrathirDocScrutinizer05: maybe you remember cat comand on what path to check charging status?21:03
Drathirmean vales 0/121:04
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DocScrutinizer05charging ststud?21:04
Drathirups yes...21:04
DocScrutinizer05what exactly do you want to find out?21:05
Drathirmean which type of charging is using, or if not blink orange light always is normal charging?21:06
_jester_DocScrutinizer05: so my options now are to reflash emms and rootfs ? or would flashing the rootfs only work ?21:06
DrathirDocScrutinizer05: if good remember in /sys/ location somewhere...21:07
DocScrutinizer05Drathir: lshal -u /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/bme21:09
DocScrutinizer05_jester_: yes, flashing eMMC and then rootfs should fix it21:09
DocScrutinizer05actually /opt gets restored even by only flashing rootfs, during first boot optification21:10
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_jester_thanks DocScrutinizer05 great help as always21:10
DocScrutinizer05but you might as well fisr check if there's reasonable content in /opt21:11
DocScrutinizer05there are other issues that might cause what you see21:11
DocScrutinizer05e.g we actually have a 21MB locale-cache file21:12
DocScrutinizer05when that got nuked, you also will see weird effects21:12
DocScrutinizer05themes messed up are another possible reason21:12
DrathirDocScrutinizer05: thanks a lot wall charger on board21:13
DocScrutinizer05tbh probably creating a osso-backup of your apps (it's only a list of apps to re-install), and then flashing rootfs is your most simple option to get it sorted21:13
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DocScrutinizer05wall charger means "D+- short"21:14
DocScrutinizer05aqnd yes, there's also a sysnode for that21:14
DocScrutinizer05cat /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/charger21:15
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DocScrutinizer05this is for sure the more direct way, that represents state in realtime21:16
DocScrutinizer05while lshal is a bit lazy21:16
Drathiryes that command is that one im forgot...21:18
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Drathirbtw its is a normal?21:20
Drathir[19601.782714] wlan0: roaming signal from driver, sending LOWSIGNAL21:20
Drathir[19605.572021] wlan0: roaming signal from driver, sending HIGHSIGNAL21:20
sixwheeledbeastnormal... well I get it. There is a bugzilla ticket for issue re driver roaming21:21
mickaelh<DocScrutinizer05> thank you for your answer21:23
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DocScrutinizer05that is pretty "normal", seeing it all the time21:23
mickaelhmy problem is detailed here
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mickaelhty all21:24
DocScrutinizer05bug 910121:24
povbotBug Wifi doesn't enter power saving mode properly (wl1251: ERROR Power save entry failed, giving up)21:24
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Drathiryes thats also, but great news that trying to power save mode using thats something new in better side...21:25
DocScrutinizer05mickaelh: please make sure you got proper ssh key in garage, wait one day, then check. If you still face problems then, please pester me again21:26
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sixwheeledbeastmickaelh: I thought it would be, thats why I searched for that thread :)21:33
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mickaelhsixwheeledbeast : I have to change my key in one day21:41
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* Drathir thinkink about building debian packages for maemo is much harder than for archlinux?21:52
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DocScrutinizer05  sounds about matching22:07
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DrCodecan I use sim from samsung wonder to n90022:29
DrCodeare thay the same?22:29
sixwheeledbeastis it a microSIM?22:33
sixwheeledbeastDrCode: if so no22:35
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DrCodelet me check23:01
DrCodedon't remmber23:01
DrCodeno it's SIM23:05
DrCodenot microsim23:05
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fizziePresumably a mini-SIM; haven't seen the full credit-card sized SIMs around in a while.23:07
DrCodeI was thinking to buy new samsung S4, but what changed my mind is that meamo 5 and n900 uses linux23:09
DrCodeI use 90% of my time with linux, so I decide to order n90023:10
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DrCodeI also watch some video that it support video camrae recorder of 720p23:10
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fizzieI was under the impression that "modern" phones did proper and stable-fps 1080p recording; compared to the N900's "somewhat manages a sort of 720p if you tweak it enough".23:15
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RaimuAndroid is a Linux based OS too.23:47
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Maceri just realized tablet-encode can do wildcards heh23:57
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