IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2013-06-27

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DocScrutinizer05povbot: still here?10:38
povbotDocScrutinizer05: Error: "still" is not a valid command.10:38
DocScrutinizer05HAH10:38
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japa-fiHi all. I ad my N900 to get totally corrupted (don't know why, filesystem corrupted in middle of the day), I reflashed it and now I have clean N900 which I try to customize back to it's glory. I have not installed many items yet, backupmenu being one of them :). Now I try to install community SSU, going by the steps from maemo wiki.10:51
japa-fiJust that the install is terminated by dependancy problem..10:51
japa-fimp-fremantle-generic-pr: depends maemosec-certman-common-ca (=0.2.0+0m5) but 0.2.2 is to be installed10:52
japa-fidepends libmaemosec0, libmaemosec-certman0, maemosec-certman-tools10:53
japa-fiall have the same version conflict10:53
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japa-fibah, incorrect maemo version. Updating that first.11:07
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DocScrutinizer05make sure you got PR1.3 or PR1.3.1, and disable all catalogs in HAM that faintly look like non-standard11:21
DocScrutinizer05actually after flashing PR1.3 you won't have any bogus or weird catalogs in HAM11:22
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Lava_CroftIs there a known bug that makes conversations turn up empty every now and then?11:45
Lava_Croftit seems that restarting hildon-desktop fixes it11:45
Lava_Croftseems so! :)11:51
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DocScrutinizer05Lava_Croft: ever heard of invisible SMS?13:00
DocScrutinizer05http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/04/silent_sms/13:04
DocScrutinizer05;-D13:06
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Lava_Crofthaha13:07
Lava_Croftlike i said yesterday, the USA can only dream of the shit the Dutch do13:07
Lava_Croftsadly13:07
Lava_Croftgood thing the tourists still think this is a bastion of freedom, sex and drugs13:08
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DocScrutinizer05this one is a good read on it: http://www.ivizsecurity.com/blog/security-awareness/silent-sms-how-i-know-where-you-were-yesterday-night/13:16
DocScrutinizer05with good links13:17
Lava_Croftsounds like a great way to empty batteries of terrorists' cellphones13:28
DocScrutinizer05well, the DoS for sure13:42
DocScrutinizer05related, though not to SMS:13:42
DocScrutinizer05~gsm-agps13:43
infobotrrlp is, like, the Radio Resource LCS (Location Service) Protocol as specified first in GSM TS 04.31, or http://security.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/RRLP13:43
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SAiFpossibility of jolla model with hardware keyboard?17:47
SAiFin near future17:47
GeneralAntillesNobody can talk about that if they know.17:48
GeneralAntillesIf it's coming, you'll hear an announcement.17:48
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DocScrutinizer05insiders have good hope17:58
DocScrutinizer05though not even they know for sure17:58
Superpelicanwell there have been ideas for a HW keyboard other half17:58
SuperpelicanJolla said they might produce one if there's enough demand17:59
DocScrutinizer05sure, those ideas are as extraordinary as eating is when you're hungry17:59
* jaska eats keycaps17:59
DocScrutinizer05but it's absolutely unvlear if they ever will actually sell such a thing. and when if ever18:00
DocScrutinizer05~seen infobot18:01
infobotinfobot is currently on #asterisk-doc (2d 21h 7m 47s) #botpark (2d 21h 7m 47s) #gsoc (2d 21h 7m 47s) ##t42 (2d 21h 7m 47s) #maemo (2d 21h 7m 47s) #fredlug (2d 21h 7m 47s) #flyspray (2d 21h 7m 47s) #webos-internals (2d 21h 7m 47s) #opensimpad.org (2d 21h 7m 47s) #gooseproject (2d 21h 7m 47s) #asterisk (2d 21h 7m 47s) #wowprogramming (2d 21h 7m 47s) ...18:01
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GI_Jackhas anyone looked into this, I have this problem too http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!searchin/gmail/n900|sort:date/gmail/3FLTUQ9x1Uk/FxHVWuGGkDYJ19:23
andre__GI_Jack, would you like to describe the problem here in words?19:30
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GI_Jackthe stock email client chokes when trying to recieve IMAP messages from gmail19:31
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Lava_CroftDocScrutinizer51: while we were talking about NL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcnM2QHOauU19:43
Lava_Croft:)19:43
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DaRoDihi all19:44
DaRoDimy gf has this same exact problem on her n900 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=4940219:44
DaRoDii checked, there is still free space on root and everything19:45
DaRoDii tried to delete some conversations, but the conversation screen says: no conversation19:46
DaRoDihistory of calls has also disapeard19:48
kerioare you on pr 1.3?19:48
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DaRoDilet me check19:49
DaRoDiversion 21.2011.38-1  kernel 2.6.28-omap119:50
DaRoDino cssu19:51
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DaRoDiis there a way to reinit /home/user/.osso-abook/db/ without reflashing maybe?20:03
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merlin1991mv it and hope for the best?20:08
DaRoDii'm reading here that some ppl flashed and still got the problem afterward... http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Maemo-and-MeeGo-Devices/Device-Storage-Full-Message-Unable-to-Send-or-Receive-Messages/td-p/578731/page/1120:09
freemangordonmerlin1991: I guess kill/reboot would be needed20:09
freemangordonmerlin1991: hi20:09
freemangordonmerlin1991: team meeting these days?20:10
DaRoDii hope it's not a hardware failure20:10
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DaRoDimv /home/user/.osso-abook/db/  didn't change a thing20:37
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DaRoDii'll reflash20:40
DocScrutinizer05I wonder what .osso-abook got to do with receiving SMS20:41
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DocScrutinizer05I'd rather suspect .eventsv1.db or whatever the name20:41
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DaRoDiyou mean /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/e1-v1.db  ?20:47
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Mr_StupidDocScrutinizer05: Do you remember me? I still can't upload to extras-devel :( I applied for invitation ~ 1 month ago20:50
Mr_StupidYou told me to pester you or merlin1991 if nothing happens :)20:50
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DocScrutinizer05sorry, no. 4 weeks ago is like last millenium in my world. I have no more references and need to start all anoew20:56
Mr_StupidI want to upload something to extras-devel but i can't because i need an invitation.20:57
Mr_StupidNothing happened after i applied for invitation20:57
freemangordonMr_Stupid: I remember someone having the issue, not sure if that were you20:58
freemangordonmerlin1991: ^^^20:58
Mr_Stupidi also wrote an email to garage@maemo.org (thedead1440 suggested that)20:59
Mr_Stupidbut that didn't work either20:59
* freemangordon wonders where those mails go20:59
Mr_Stupidnowhere?20:59
freemangordonI doubt20:59
DaRoDiDocScrutinizer05: mv /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/ worked, thanks a lot21:01
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DocScrutinizer05all to me :-(21:03
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DocScrutinizer05and I do sth about them, then forget them. after 4 weeks I really can't recall any deatails anymore21:03
DocScrutinizer05and I wish people wouldn't send mail to garage@m.o21:04
DocScrutinizer05I get a few dozen of this crap per day21:05
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DocScrutinizer05"I can't vote, Mr garage!"21:05
DocScrutinizer05"I can't upload Mr Garage!"21:06
DocScrutinizer05"I can't promote, Mr Garage!"21:06
DocScrutinizer05usually >50% of mandatory data/details missing21:07
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Mr_StupidAh, so you maybe got my request and maybe something is missing?21:11
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DocScrutinizer05maybe, how should I know?21:11
DocScrutinizer05if you see a chance to send a proper follow-up to your own mail that would create a mail thread in a normal mail client, feel free to do so, and your original mail plus the follow-up will pop up on my radar again21:13
DocScrutinizer05otherwise I have no means to find your original mail21:13
merlin1991Mr_Stupid: I'll check what I have21:13
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Mr_StupidMy garage account is marshall_banana, email address is marshall.banana@yahoo.de21:14
merlin1991hah found the mail21:15
DocScrutinizer05now you're talking21:15
* DocScrutinizer05 leaves the topic to merlin199121:15
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merlin1991hm intresting21:18
Mr_StupidAhhh, now something changed. I can go to step 221:19
Mr_Stupidthx four your help21:19
merlin1991just keep in mind the package won't actually land in devel after building21:19
merlin1991only if you hit me with a stick21:19
merlin1991(when it built successfully)21:19
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leandroalfolks. I'm trying to checkout a project via svn from maemo/garage, but i'm getting the following error: svn: E020014: Can't find a temporary directory: Internal error21:54
leandroalany suggestion? AFAIK, the problem is with the svn server, maybe a disk full21:55
merlin1991maybe throw in the repo you're trying to checkout21:58
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DocScrutinizer05vcs:/var/svn                              50G   47G     0 100% /mnt/vcs_svnroot22:11
DocScrutinizer05might be right22:12
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leandroalDocScrutinizer05, yes!!!22:22
leandroalDocScrutinizer05, can you please fix?22:23
DocScrutinizer05well, I will mount an additional surface to the HDD spindle22:24
DocScrutinizer05;-P22:24
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DocScrutinizer05SSL debug enabled, vcs_https_error.log several 100s of MB per day :-S22:26
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: :S22:31
DocScrutinizer05indeed22:32
DocScrutinizer05please tell me where to disable debug/info printouts22:32
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: NFC, some apache parameter?22:37
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: BTW, "You should pick up to 5 candidates in sequence of your preference by clicking on them"22:38
freemangordonwhy 5?22:38
freemangordonvoting for hifo board that is22:38
DocScrutinizer05*sigh*22:38
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freemangordonwell, i voted for six of six, but still :)22:39
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* freemangordon feels sorry for doc being pestered for everything :(22:40
freemangordonbut not that much :P22:40
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DocScrutinizer05-rw-r--r--  1 root root 83274466 Jun 24 23:59 vcs_https_error.log23:05
DocScrutinizer05root@vcs:/var/log/apache2/2013/06/24# sed -i '/\[debug\]/d;/\[info\]/d' vcs_https_error.log23:05
DocScrutinizer05-rw-r--r--  1 root root   80823 Jun 27 20:04 vcs_https_error.log23:05
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: what about SVN_DBG_QUIET ?23:12
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: lemme check one again23:12
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_jester_hello world23:31
_jester_i hope maemo isnt dead23:31
DocScrutinizer05leandroal: try again please23:31
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_jester_or is trying to die on me, just cause i bought a maemo device23:31
DocScrutinizer05up to you23:32
_jester_or the hardware people23:32
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_jester_just a small question, if anyone is alive on the channel. how stable is the testing ssu23:34
_jester_i just installed the community ssu from the maemo.org and was wondering how the testing one compares23:35
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DocScrutinizer05there's cssu-Stable and cssu-Testing23:45
DocScrutinizer05recently T has a few ... issues23:45
_jester_i just installed cssu - stable23:46
DocScrutinizer05fine23:46
_jester_generally the cutting edge code isnt that unstable23:46
_jester_and i was only wondering because i do intend to develop on it as well23:47
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: hmm, besides semi-broken thumbnails in tasknav, what else. My question is serious, is there anything I am not aware of?23:47
DocScrutinizer05doesn't make a difference23:47
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: you know I was away for a while23:47
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: the friggin fstab episode23:47
freemangordonoh, but that's fixed now23:47
DocScrutinizer05HAH23:48
freemangordonotherwise yes, there were issues23:48
DocScrutinizer05let's talk about 2fixed now" in two weeks, ok?23:48
freemangordonok23:48
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: the usual quarantine period :)23:48
_jester_seems like i need to buy a new device to dive into this one23:49
freemangordon_jester_: usually CSSU-T is pretty much stable, sometimes it happens that we screw it a bit :)23:50
DocScrutinizer05A BIT? ;-P23:50
* DocScrutinizer05 wistles23:50
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: come on :P23:50
DocScrutinizer05ok, usually it's been rather stable, but that changed since I stopped bitching23:51
DocScrutinizer05:-)23:51
_jester_well, it happens in all projects23:52
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_jester_and i suppose the whole linux/community thing comes into play, id jump in after 2 weeks i suppose, create good backups and try and contribute23:52
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* DocScrutinizer05 wonders what else except git checkout been fux0red by vcs disk eaten by snakes err apache, and why the heck friggin icinga didn't yell like mad23:55
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