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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.computersolutions.cn/blog/2012/05/msn-bing-crawler-spider-madness/ | 00:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | suckers, they killed maemo.org and shr-project.org yesterday | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~kill M$ | 00:25 |
| * infobot shoots a excited anti-neutrino gun at M$ | 00:25 | |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | bing my ass, they're doing that since 3 years now it seems | 00:26 |
| M4rtinK | that's pretty crazy | 00:34 |
| M4rtinK | looks like they want to be evil - big style ! :) | 00:34 |
| ecc2g | uh weird... that first log in that web page indicates robots.txt 404'ed? am I readin gthat right? | 00:35 |
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| ecc2g | not that it shouldnt be spamming webservers, i have my angst at baidubot that does the same to my server. | 00:36 |
| ecc2g | the first comment on that web page has a 200 code to get /robots.txt - now that time it read it properly... but the main body it 404'ed. | 00:38 |
| ecc2g | though it still picked up /members/ ... | 00:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen jaffa | 00:47 |
| infobot | jaffa <~andrew@Maemo/community/contributor/Jaffa> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 37d 9h 55m 14s ago, saying: 'You do?'. | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen GeneralAntilles | 00:47 |
| infobot | generalantilles is currently on #maemo (1h 17m 53s) #harmattan (1h 17m 53s), last said: '(User ID: 7) Woo'. | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | suure | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen texrat | 00:47 |
| infobot | texrat <47a4a6f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.164.166.241> was last seen on IRC in channel #meego, 437d 17h 53m 17s ago, saying: 'right'. | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen revdkathy | 00:48 |
| infobot | revdkathy <~androirc@5ace035f.bb.sky.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 628d 3h 54m 16s ago, saying: 'oh silly me, yes. It's apple who lift other people's work and pass it off as their own. '. | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen ivgalvez | 00:48 |
| infobot | ivgalvez <~quassel@86.43.81.96> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 71d 4h 23m 27s ago, saying: 'but BM worked as a charm, God bless Robbie1st'. | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen qole | 00:49 |
| infobot | i haven't seen 'qole', DocScrutinizer05 | 00:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err | 00:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~seen Woody14619 | 00:52 |
| infobot | woody14619 is currently on #maemo (1h 21m 46s) #maemo-ssu (1h 21m 46s), last said: 'I have saved at least 2 drafts I'm going to sleep on tonight. That was the *least* harsh... just to give you an idea.'. | 00:52 |
| freemangordon_ | DocScrutinizer05: hmm, what are you looking for? | 00:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ex-councilors' cloaks | 00:52 |
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| freemangordon | wtf? | 00:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yaknow /maemo/community/council/* | 00:53 |
| freemangordon | oh, no, NameServ was spittinf bullshit | 00:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freenode doesn't allow searching for cloaks or hostnames in general | 00:53 |
| freemangordon | I mean WTF was not pointed to you :) | 00:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aah | 00:54 |
| freemangordon | my ISP does bullshit for the last couple of months, it seems i have to find another one | 00:54 |
| freemangordon | 5-6 reconnects per day | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, time for the semi-yearly cloak action, x-fade will cheer he finally got sth to do ;-D | 00:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ouch | 00:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | might as wll be your modem | 00:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or copper quality | 00:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | S/N | 00:55 |
| freemangordon | could be, but it is provided by the ISP too, so what's the difference? | 00:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | your neighbour switching on his DSL modem -> yours goes "duh, I should retrain". Known issue | 00:56 |
| freemangordon | the same | 00:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | check your S/N | 00:56 |
| freemangordon | I give a shit about that, if they don;t play nice I'll just change them ;) | 00:57 |
| sixwheeledbeast | qole was last seen http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2011-09-06.log.html#t2011-09-06T19:58:55 :) can I be a bot, all be it a slow one | 00:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if it's too bad, odds are you get "no DSL possible" answer when complaining at your ISP | 00:57 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: actually we have a choice here :) | 00:57 |
| freemangordon | at least for ISPs | 00:57 |
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| freemangordon | I kicked off my previous ISP because he wanted my..., hmm..., personal ID? not sure how to translate to English | 00:59 |
| freemangordon | yep, should be personal ID | 01:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ID card number? | 01:00 |
| freemangordon | no, it is a personal ID, it is a 10 digit number you got when you're born, it consists of your birthdate , 4 random digits and a check digit | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | oooh | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | do you get a barcode on your forehead too? | 01:02 |
| freemangordon | hehe | 01:02 |
| freemangordon | the matrix, you know :P | 01:02 |
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| freemangordon | however, we(in Bulgaria) are blessed with very good ISPs and internet connectivity as a whole, so I can change my ISP whenever I want | 01:04 |
| freemangordon | afaik only romanians have better inet, or at least that was the case 1-2 years ago | 01:05 |
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| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: still no autobuilder maintainer? | 01:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | honestly, do you want to make me feel depressed? of course not, otherwise I had switched the channel to comic mode to celebrate that | 01:10 |
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| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: come on, you know me, the worst thing I've ever wanted you to feel is wrong :P | 01:12 |
| freemangordon | I'm glad I usually succeed :D:D:D | 01:12 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: BTW the question about maintainer was serious | 01:13 |
| freemangordon | *the maintainer | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I know. My answer as well | 01:13 |
| freemangordon | ok, got it | 01:13 |
| freemangordon | :( | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's nobody who's willing to play in a team, under a sysop, and learn about how that cauldron shit works | 01:14 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: honestly, i'd like to be, but I need some RL issues to pass by, to be able to take the commitment | 01:14 |
| freemangordon | I hate to say I'll do something and to disappear | 01:15 |
| freemangordon | actually never do like that (I hope) | 01:15 |
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| freemangordon | 01:14 <DocScrutinizer05> there's nobody who's willing to play in a team, under a sysop, and learn about how that cauldron shit works | 01:16 |
| freemangordon | this is strange | 01:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, isn't it :-P | 01:16 |
| freemangordon | I mean - if you have a "boss", things are way easier | 01:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess the latter part is the problem | 01:17 |
| freemangordon | could be | 01:17 |
| freemangordon | but dammit, it is a pile of scripts after all | 01:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 01:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | a "block schematics" to be found at http://wiki.maemo.org/Migrating_to_Community-driven_Infrastructure#Autobuilder_and_friends | 01:19 |
| freemangordon | anyway, I'll give it try. when I have some free time. hopefully soon, as this is unacceptable(haveing buggy autobuilder) | 01:19 |
| freemangordon | *having | 01:20 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: BTW is there any progress wit nokia repo keys? | 01:22 |
| freemangordon | *with | 01:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | none at all | 01:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | afaik | 01:22 |
| freemangordon | do we have any contact? | 01:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no more than pali's last mails and the *cough* answers | 01:23 |
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| freemangordon | ohh, we have answers? | 01:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the last one a months or so ago been "Mr X isn't working for us anymore, this topic gets handled by MrY and Mr Z now" | 01:24 |
| freemangordon | I see | 01:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | OWTTE | 01:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I *think* pali sent another mail to Y and Z, and I dunno if he got any answer | 01:25 |
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| freemangordon | if we only have BoD as it was supposed to be :( | 01:26 |
| freemangordon | hopefully that will change soon | 01:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we might need to consider to completely shanghai the nokia repos | 01:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | BoD couldn't to anything on that either | 01:26 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: the point is that lots of "users" will never know that n900 lives in 2013 | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the heck, they were not even supoosed to do much about it, after Nokia obviously refused to pass ownership to Nokia repos over to us | 01:27 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: that is understandable, they don;t own some IP in there | 01:28 |
| freemangordon | and they don'h have/unwill to allocate the resources needed to check every single package in the repos | 01:28 |
| freemangordon | s/to allocate/resources to allocate/ | 01:29 |
| infobot | freemangordon meant: and they don'h have/unwill resources to allocate the resources needed to check every single package in the repos | 01:29 |
| freemangordon | you got it :) | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | why would that be needed? | 01:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah, to pass the ownership to us | 01:29 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, I think it's more about the URL and the signature key - yes, THIS signature key | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Nokia already allowed us to redistribute binaries | 01:30 |
| freemangordon | see, we are "third party" | 01:30 |
| freemangordon | hmm? | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, might be a problem nevertheless | 01:31 |
| freemangordon | which binaries, do you mane qole's exeption? | 01:31 |
| freemangordon | *mean | 01:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, sth like that | 01:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Quim told us basically we can redistribute whatever we like, iirc | 01:32 |
| freemangordon | this is not enough "official" for all the packages ownership to be transfered to "third party" like HiFo | 01:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but sure a whole repo officially handed over to us is a different thing | 01:32 |
| freemangordon | IIUC | 01:32 |
| freemangordon | however, it is unfortunate that Nokia don;t want to make this effort and fix the damn repo key | 01:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, it's subcontractors anyway | 01:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and I *think* nokia told them to fix it, otherwise they never had approached us how to do it | 01:34 |
| freemangordon | is it? | 01:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | accenture? | 01:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd guess that's a subcontractor | 01:35 |
| freemangordon | in continuation to my "if we only have Bod" way of thinking - BoD can paster them way more effectivly than Pali, me, you or whoever "maemo star" | 01:36 |
| freemangordon | If you get me | 01:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't think so | 01:37 |
| freemangordon | why? me, you, Pali, etc are "noone" in a corporate world. We are individuals, not "officials" | 01:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and so is HiFo | 01:38 |
| freemangordon | wring | 01:38 |
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| freemangordon | *wrong | 01:39 |
| freemangordon | "they" are official | 01:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in which way? | 01:39 |
| freemangordon | in laws way. And that matters when average Joe gets an e-mail | 01:39 |
| freemangordon | no matter which laws | 01:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | neither of those who are relevant for that issue is "average Joe" | 01:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's Nokia nd Accenture, and for both HiFo is nobody as well | 01:41 |
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| freemangordon | see, "Nokia" and "Accenture" are not the ones getting emails | 01:41 |
| freemangordon | it is concrete people | 01:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure they are, first instance | 01:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you don't even know which are "the concrete people" inside Nokia you would want to cantact | 01:43 |
| freemangordon | And it depends whether e-mails are coming from "freemangordon@abc.xy" or "ceo@hifo.com" :) | 01:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not to those inside Nokia | 01:43 |
| freemangordon | s/depends/makes difference/ | 01:43 |
| infobot | freemangordon meant: And it makes difference whether e-mails are coming from "freemangordon@abc.xy" or "ceo@hifo.com" :) | 01:43 |
| freemangordon | well, could be | 01:43 |
| freemangordon | but I still think it would've been better if we had a working legal entity | 01:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | might help, but also might have a downside | 01:45 |
| freemangordon | see, I don;t think our "contact people" in Nokia or Accenture are/were a decision makers | 01:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | as long as Nokia owns maemo.org, we don't sweat our shirt waiting for a patent troll to try and make some money from a binary shipped via extras-repo | 01:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and anyway, as it looks now, we _never_ will own maemo, Nokia got pissed by HiFo | 01:47 |
| freemangordon | Nokia still owns maemo.org? | 01:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure | 01:47 |
| freemangordon | nice :( | 01:47 |
| freemangordon | well, in that case we are just generating some network trafic :) | 01:48 |
| freemangordon | NFC why, but I was under the impression that the ownership was transferred long ago | 01:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hah | 01:49 |
| freemangordon | see, I really try to keep away from politics, see my involvement in "Community Arawds" thread if you need and you'll get why :) | 01:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://privatepaste.com/e4fab01c3b OOM | 07:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~lart MSN-spider | 07:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | better dat | 07:58 |
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| vi__ | ? | 14:29 |
| vi__ | DocScrutinizer05: WTF, this cannot be real. | 14:29 |
| vi__ | http://news.cnet.com/2100-1029-6140191.html | 14:29 |
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| Custodian | vi_ have you checked dates on news? its December 1, 2006 | 14:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, that's age old and known | 14:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and real | 14:49 |
| lolgnu | Hello | 14:54 |
| lolgnu | Can I have a N950? | 14:54 |
| fw190 | mayne on ebay someone will sell ;) | 15:01 |
| fw190 | maybe | 15:02 |
| vi__ | I cant believe it. How can my microphone be switched on remotely? | 15:07 |
| rikanee | vi__: backdoor in baseband> | 15:08 |
| rikanee | ? | 15:08 |
| vi__ | what about if I turn it to 'offline' mode? | 15:09 |
| rikanee | vi__: no signals received, no botnet. | 15:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | www temporary down for a few minutes of service | 15:47 |
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| Wizzup_ | world wide web? | 15:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah! "mom, I have shut down the internet" | 15:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~www | 15:56 |
| infobot | somebody said www was The World Wide Web, or world wide wait | 15:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | grr | 15:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~mo | 15:56 |
| infobot | well, mo is Macao Modus operandi. | 15:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | double-GRR | 15:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~bmo | 15:57 |
| infobot | well, bmo is bugs.maemo.org | 15:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~wmo | 15:57 |
| infobot | i heard wmo is wiki.maemo.org | 15:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~wwwmo | 15:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~listvalues .maemo.org | 15:57 |
| infobot | Factoid search of '.maemo.org' by value (17 of 129): #maemo closed ;; #maemo mirror ;; #maemo mo/* ;; #maemo sdk ;; #maemo smo ;; #maemo truecrypt ;; #maemo u-boot ;; #maemo vkbd-portrait ;; arch-n900 ;; beasttweaks ;; boot-sd ;; cssu ;; cssu-thumb ;; ereswap ;; flash-partitioning ;; flashplayer ;; hildon-extras. | 15:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~mo7* | 15:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~mo/* | 15:57 |
| infobot | [mo/*] http//maemo.org/* and http://www.maemo.org | 15:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | here you are | 15:58 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05: read mailbox | 15:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mailbox? | 15:59 |
| Pali | last my forwared email | 15:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | none here | 16:00 |
| Pali | just wait some minutes/seconds | 16:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there is is | 16:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | well, I think the suggested global replacement of GPG key never been a feasible option. Why didn't you ask for signing a new MP with the "MaemoSW Admin" and then just delivering that "PR1.4"? | 16:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | why would they need to replace the key on all servers for that? | 16:05 |
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| Pali | I will not ask something again... I think that they do not want to fix it | 16:07 |
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| Pali | you (or somebody else) can continue discussion, but I do not want | 16:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | btw I might go offline soon, since my ISP contract ceases, and my neighbour failed so far to do all the cabling needed for our new great shared 16MB DSL | 16:08 |
| Pali | I see other/better solution: Clone all SSU/APPS repos to other server (maybe r.m.o), resign repos with our new keys and release new CSSU/PR1.4 fiasco image | 16:08 |
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| Pali | I have everything needed for creating new ubifs rootfs and packing it into new FIASCO image | 16:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-06-05 00:26:25] <DocScrutinizer05> we might need to consider to completely shanghai the nokia repos | 16:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | but that's no solution to our root problem | 16:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which is to migrate/re-integrate all those devices whose users never even considered looking at their catalog list, not to think of flashing a new fiasco image | 16:14 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05: right, but nokia does not want to fix it | 16:15 |
| Lava_Croft | to get to 'all' users, you basically need nokia? | 16:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: Nokia *does* want that fixed, otherwise they hadn't told accenture to look into it | 16:16 |
| Pali | I do not belive | 16:16 |
| Wizzup_ | ah, today I should have time to add uinput-mapper to devel, or at least figure out how to do it :-) | 16:16 |
| Pali | I suggested more steps and nothing happened | 16:17 |
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| Pali | they did nothing | 16:18 |
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| Pali | to fix it they must 1) release new FIASCO image with extended expiration date or 2) resign repository with some other valid key (so only sw admin key) | 16:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I still think they didn't grok the one right procedure | 16:19 |
| Pali | and they refused both options | 16:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, they didn't | 16:20 |
| Pali | if you want continue conversation with nokia | 16:21 |
| Pali | or ask somebody else for it | 16:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you asked them to >>going to replace signing GPG key with "MaemoSW Admin"<< > >to replace "Nokia repository signing key 4v1" GPG key with "MaemoSW Admin" GPG key on all Maemo5 SSU servers<< | 16:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | to them this sounds like shipping a new private key to all servers | 16:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which is not what we need to get done, aiui | 16:22 |
| Pali | rigth, because because they wrote that releasing new fiasco image will not happen | 16:22 |
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| Pali | yes, we need it - there is not other option | 16:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what we need is a NEW MP-FREMANTLE_PR signed with admin key shipped by all repo servers | 16:23 |
| Pali | ssu repository must be (re)signed with other key | 16:23 |
| Pali | but this is not possible | 16:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, but that DOES NOT MEAN to deploy the key to all servers | 16:23 |
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| Pali | you can only resign whole apt repository | 16:24 |
| Pali | not possible to sign one specific package | 16:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | actually aiui no repo server has ANY key | 16:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so what? | 16:24 |
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| Pali | you need to resign ssu repository, you cannot sign some new mp-fremantle | 16:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then sign whole apt repository, that still doesn't mean you have to ship THE KEY to all servers | 16:25 |
| Pali | and who told you that you need to ship private key to server? | 16:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you ship _the repository_, *not* the KEY | 16:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | >to replace "Nokia repository signing key 4v1" GPG key with "MaemoSW Admin" GPG key on all Maemo5 SSU servers< [quote pali] | 16:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I bet they got this the same way I do: deploy a private key to repo servers (akamai) | 16:26 |
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| Pali | you need to replace signing GPG key 4v1 with maemosw admin | 16:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | NO you don't | 16:27 |
| Pali | and deploy new signatures to all repositories | 16:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | nobody is replacing anything, you SIGN the repository with that sw-adm key, then you replace the repository | 16:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | signing can happen on a secure server inside Nokia | 16:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | you DO NOT deploy a new key | 16:28 |
| Pali | go ahead and ask nokia what will do | 16:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | they simply can't do that, since they are not allowed to deploy a new key | 16:28 |
| Pali | I do not care about it anymore | 16:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | please, do you get the differnece? | 16:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or am I wrong? | 16:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aiui it's only about the signature in the packages, no? | 16:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not about any private key on any repo server | 16:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | if not even the both of us can sort that out, do you really expect Nokia or Accenture to understand it? | 16:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | my suggestion been: create a new hildon-application-manager-settings-* packages with a renewed KEY-4.9, then sign that package with the SW-adm key, then edit MP-frematle-PR to include the NEW hildon-application-manager-settings-* packages, then sign MP-frematle-PR with the SW-adm key. Both signing events can be done on arbitrary (high security local) server. Then *deploy* the new *packages* via SSU | 16:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: is that correct? does that work? | 16:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | or rather, "sign packages.gz" | 16:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Nokia will never follow an advice like "replace signing GPG key with MaemoSW Admin" | 16:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | they mustn't replace keys on a random basis, but that's not what we need | 16:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | we need packages (or repos) *signed* by that SW-adm key | 16:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not any keys replaced | 16:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | replacing keys sound friggin scary and a really bad idea | 16:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | please understand what Nokia/Accenture makes of your request! "OMG we are asked to replace a maemo key by one of our most secured private keys" | 16:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | boss: WONT happen, EVAR | 16:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so again: ARE there ANY expired private keys on repo servers? | 16:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that need to get replaced? | 16:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | or is it like that: on SSU repos there are ... files... that are signed with an expired key and those files need to get *signed* with a better (sw adm) key | 16:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Nokia might be willing to sign those files, by sending them to the security department which has the private key for SW-adm, and get them back signed by that key | 16:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | we need to explain to them very detailed which files need that signing, so we can recover from this deadlock | 16:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | the poor guys CANNOT *replace* the 4.1 key by SW-adm key, since they don't get hold of SW-adm key | 16:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we need to tell them which files to send to the lord keyguard who +has* access to the SW-adm key, to get them signed | 16:50 |
| Wizzup_ | Also, time to replace the usb on my old n900 today, have a rework station... | 16:51 |
| Wizzup_ | Should be doable | 16:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | use lots of flux | 16:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | good flux | 16:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and two soldering irons: a timy one (or even reflow tool) for the electric contacts, and a 60W monster for the mech supports on those huge groundplanes that suck all heat away | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and protect you camrea lens with sticky tape! | 16:54 |
| Wizzup_ | ah, yeah @ camera | 16:54 |
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| rikanee | sticky tape is nice, but Kapton tape would be great. | 16:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | carton is the best | 17:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fix it with arbitrary sticky | 17:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (gpg key, mail from nokia) >>Are you going to replace signing GPG key with "MaemoSW Admin"?<< --> >>No, we won't do that.<< I can't blame them | 17:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no sane user will agree to "replace key" | 17:01 |
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| andre__ | DocScrutinizer05, file a ticket in bugzilla against bugzilla for what is wanted. | 20:23 |
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| jimrj_ | Hello! Just wondering if someone here knows an alternativ download link for the maemo flasher... Since links from maemo/nokia webpages doesnt work anymore? More specifically, flasher-3.0.amd64. Any help would be highly appreciated ;) | 20:52 |
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| warfare | jimrj_: tabletsdev.maemo.org | 20:57 |
| warfare | jimrj_: (which also has header problems) | 20:57 |
| jimrj_ | warfare: thanks.. but that's the site I have problems with ;) | 20:58 |
| jimrj_ | as you mentioned... ;) | 20:59 |
| warfare | jimrj_: http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/downloads/flasher-3.0.amd64 | 21:00 |
| warfare | ;) | 21:00 |
| warfare | (now I need to fix this d3 stuff) | 21:00 |
| jimrj_ | warfare: thanks! | 21:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | andre__: nope I won't since I'm *really* busy with way more important stuff | 21:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and I'm not maintainer of b.m.o | 21:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | neither am I a sysop | 21:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nor fist level helpdesk | 21:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | first* | 21:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tbh atm I'm the human garbage collector of autobuilder | 21:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and obviously of Nemein | 21:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | jimrj: why or since when doesn't it work (anymore)? | 21:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tabletsdev | 21:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | damn! | 21:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | he's gone. | 21:17 |
| jimrj | i am here | 21:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | your alter ego's gone then :) | 21:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | DDoS sustains | 21:18 |
| jimrj | DocScrutinizer05: i get this error "Duplicate headers received from server" | 21:18 |
| jimrj | have tried several times this week... | 21:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I fixed that for tabletsdev.nokia.com | 21:19 |
| jimrj | However, i just read the "flashing guide" again, and saw there was an alternativ download link there, so sorry for the spam ;) | 21:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *sigh* | 21:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks for helping to debug it | 21:20 |
| jimrj | DocScrutinizer05: let me try some other browsers! | 21:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-05-31 13:14:43] <DocScrutinizer05> <------><------>// Akamai sets this, let's not set it twice | 21:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-05-31 13:14:43] <DocScrutinizer05> <------><------>//added-comment(again?)jr20130531 header("Content-Disposition: attachment;filename=".@urlencode($filename)); | 21:21 |
| jimrj | DocScrutinizer05: I must admit, i am quite stupid... should of tried it before going around asking people for help. I get the above mentioned error message with chrome 64bit, but not with firefox | 21:21 |
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| jimrj | to be a bit more precice, this is the link I tested with: http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/d3.php?f=flasher-3.0.amd64 | 21:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I either comment it out then akamai/nokia.com works, or I don't comment it out then tabletsdev.maemo.org works | 21:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you can't have both I guess | 21:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems to work here | 21:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (this link) | 21:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | at least after you accepted the EULA, and then only for 120min | 21:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | all those links are NOT meant to be allowed for direct download | 21:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | you go http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/d3.php and accept eula | 21:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | only THEN proceed to the page where the links like http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/d3.php?f=flasher-3.0.amd64 are offered and actually work then | 21:29 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Anyone spot the typo on "tabletsdev.maemo.org" | 21:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | eh? | 21:29 |
| sixwheeledbeast | "Instuctions for using the CLI flsher tools are" | 21:29 |
| sixwheeledbeast | "flsher" | 21:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *shrug* | 21:29 |
| sixwheeledbeast | it's in the Maemo 5 section | 21:30 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I know big fish and all :) | 21:30 |
| sixwheeledbeast | s/big/bigger/ | 21:30 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I thought whats a CLI fisher ;) | 21:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | to EVERYBODY: do NOT try to directly wget or otherwise download anything from tabletsdev, neither maemo.org nor nokia.com, by directly jumping to links like http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/d3.php?f=flasher-3.0.amd64 - ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO WORK | 21:32 |
| kerio | instead, use skeiron or cloud-7 :D | 21:34 |
| thedead1440 | haha | 21:34 |
| sixwheeledbeast | :nod: have to go through IMEI check on tabletsdev | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not for flasher etc, see http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/d3.php | 21:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for fiasco images, yes | 21:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | honestly, go to http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ and find your way to what you need. That's how it's ment to get used | 21:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meant even | 21:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/#miscellaneous offers "Linux, Mac OS X flashers" which takes you to http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/d3.php and then, after accept, to a page titled "tablets-dev.nokia.com restricted downloads" | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which as "flasher-3.0.amd64" and other goodies | 21:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and that "just works[TM]" | 21:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ONLY THEN come here and ask for fixing stuff or alternative download locations, when you still have problems | 21:42 |
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| pdanek | Hey guys, | 23:41 |
| pdanek | Display on my N900 broke, but everything else still works, even the touch panel, just that I don't see anything. | 23:41 |
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| pdanek | So I was able to plug the phone to PC and somehow click mass storage. | 23:42 |
| pdanek | Is it possible to retrieve my contacts somehow? | 23:42 |
| pdanek | Even when I didn't export them before. | 23:42 |
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| brkn | qwazix: obs upload is at ~98% | 23:58 |
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