IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2011-09-06

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Shapeshifterhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Disconnect_internet what's the difference/relevance between ICD2 and ICD?00:09
Shapeshifterwhich do I need if I want it to work always00:09
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DocScrutinizervi__: haha00:14
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javispedrorecovering that topic of smartwatches,00:20
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javispedroI am now considering the InPulse, which I mentioned too00:21
javispedrobasicallhttp://www.getinpulse.com/00:21
javispedroer..00:21
javispedrohttp://www.getinpulse.com/00:21
javispedro$149, and OLED00:21
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javispedrothe thing is that on the forum some say that having a permantent but small HH:MM text on the OLED _always on_ makes the battery last around 20h aka 1 day00:21
javispedroa potentially interesting price to pay for having color oled..00:22
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SpeedEvilIndeed.00:23
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SpeedEvilBlack and white LCD is about it for watch-class battery life00:23
SpeedEvilprobably not even graphical.00:23
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javispedroyeah, that's what makes TI's metawatch interesting00:23
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javispedrobut still..00:23
DocScrutinizerthe OLED thing is not meant to stay on00:24
javispedroDocScrutinizer: evidently. but the thing above is the same trick the N9 does.00:24
DocScrutinizerproducing light eats lots of power, no matter how you do it00:25
javispedrosmall pixel count = less power.00:25
DocScrutinizerjavispedro: the N9 has a HUGE battery compared to a wrist watch00:25
DocScrutinizerlike 20 times the capacity00:25
javispedroevidently00:26
javispedrotoo :)00:26
vi__why is today noob day?00:26
javispedrobut in case you want to have _something_ always on and still have reasonable battery life..00:26
DocScrutinizera wrist watch with permanent display wants to use LCD00:26
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javispedroand color screen ;)00:27
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SpeedEvilOr eink00:27
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MohammadAGsup maemoers00:27
javispedroSpeedEvil++00:27
javispedrosadly, eink-on-a-watch seems to be +$1000 yet.00:27
vi__javispedro: do not forget the primary function of a watch is to indicate the time at a glace00:27
javispedrovi__: a $5 chinese watch would work finely for that00:27
Atariianyone got KP48 and hildon-desktop portrait mode working?00:27
javispedrohello MohammadAG00:27
vi__javispedro: any watch that does not last ATLEAST a month without running out of power is gay and pointless00:28
vi__MohammadAG: hay champ00:28
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javispedrovi__: so, how would you call watchless people? übergay?00:28
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vi__javispedro: obviously00:29
mzanettiHi. Since the latest update of the QtSDK creating a package spits out this error again: Can't exec "debian/rules"00:29
mzanettiI have made sure rules is executable00:30
vi__perhaps the rules are in the wrong place?00:30
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vi__what is the best n900 email client?00:31
mzanettihmmm... I didn't change the source of my project... its still in qtc_packaging/debian_fremantle/rules and its copied to the build dir debian/rules00:31
DocScrutinizernot carrying any watch != carrying a useless watch00:31
DocScrutinizer1st is maybe cool, 2nd is extremely silly00:32
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DocScrutinizerwhat's the difference between somebody without any mobile phone, and somebody carrying a mobile phone dummy? ;-D00:34
Shapeshifterha00:35
ShapeshifterI managed to crash my n90000:35
Shapeshifterhow did that happen00:35
DocScrutinizercrash?00:35
ShapeshifterI closed a terminal and immediately after tapped the task switcher00:36
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Shapeshifterwell it seems like hildon-desktop crashed since the bar at the top was all garbled and a moment later it rebooted00:36
DocScrutinizermeh, that just happens00:36
Shapeshifterfail00:36
MohammadAG<3 dsmetool00:36
DocScrutinizerhehehe00:37
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DocScrutinizerseems not even TI can guarantee DSP/GFXaccel always running flawlessly. So when hw-accelerated rendering crashes on X-server aka hildon-desktop, a reboot will ensue00:38
ShapeshifterI'm not impressed00:39
DocScrutinizerI know times back when x-server crashed on my desktop as well00:39
Shapeshifterif hildon-desktop actually segfaults because of a hardware fault it should just respawn00:39
DocScrutinizerwell, maemo is massively x-server centric. It'd be hard to respawn x-server and not make it look like a reboot anyway00:40
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Shapeshifter:<00:40
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javispedroDocScrutinizer: these are Imagination Tech, not TI00:42
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javispedroDocScrutinizer: but TI are idiots too =)00:42
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* javispedro has been getting bounces from virtually every my.TI support account I've tried, silence from the others00:42
javispedroOnly one answer, which said something like " Dear $MY_FULLNAME, please complete your account registration. Required fields: Your fullname. <End of email>."00:43
javispedroso I replied with $MY_FULLNAME, and got a bounce.00:43
DocScrutinizerLOL00:44
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javispedroah well02:43
javispedrohp is splitting palm again into hardware and software02:43
javispedrofor those that don't know, what is currently known as "palm" is already the hardware branch of the result of palm splitting into hardware and software years ago.02:44
Robot101there's a definite irony02:44
x29aeven harder hardware then?02:44
javispedroso hard it's virtually nonexistant :)02:45
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tank-mani still have my handspring visor :)02:55
tank-manstill usable as a universal remote with its ir port02:57
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javispedroI find it amazing that the palmos watches are still selling in the €200 range02:58
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x29ajavispedro: where can you find them? i was looking for a programmable watch for like ages03:26
javispedrox29a: ebay03:26
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javispedrox29a: but we've been having discussions on this channel recently about modern programmable watches03:26
x29adarn, missed that part03:27
x29awhats the newest gadget?03:28
x29ai was close to building my own03:28
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DocScrutinizerx29a: metawatch05:10
DocScrutinizeraka https://estore.ti.com/MSP-WDS430BT2000D-Bluetooth-Wearable-Watch-development-system-with-Digital-display-P2447.aspx05:11
DocScrutinizerif you were fine with DIY grade mech design and want to save some bucks, then maybe https://estore.ti.com/eZ430-Chronos-433-eZ430-Chronos-Wireless-Watch-Development-Tool-P1734.aspx05:13
DocScrutinizeror the 866 or even 900 variant05:13
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Evanescencehow to install ctags for N900 ? I can not find it in "apt-cache search ctags"05:20
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JaffaMorning, all10:19
Evanescencehow to install ctags for N900 ? I can not find it in "apt-cache search ctags"10:21
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cityLightshi, I forgot my N900 at home10:22
cityLightscan I forward calls to my office number using the command line?10:22
cityLightsvia ssh10:22
cehtehpossibly, at least you can start a vncserver and use the gui to establish forwarding10:24
cityLightshi cehteh10:25
cehtehhi10:25
cityLightscan't I avoid vnc?10:25
cityLightsI am seeking the dbus object10:25
cityLightshttps://garage.maemo.org/plugins/wiki/index.php?Tools&id=1106&type=g10:25
cehtehdunno if there is any commandline interface to setup forwarding, possibly through dbus or maybe some existing app, i never used that10:25
cityLightswhat should I ask google?10:26
cityLightsI tried maemo call forward csd.nokia.com10:26
cityLightsdidnt find it in the wiki either10:26
keriocityLights: i think your only options are to look at the source code or to actually do it through the GUI while dbus-monitor runs :)10:27
kerioit's not that you can't avoid VNC, it's that it's going to be really painful if you do10:27
cityLightswhich source code to seek/10:28
cityLights?10:28
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RST38h<yawn>10:33
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EvanescenceIs there a ctags package for Maemo N900 ?10:35
cehtehthere was some collection for dbus calls somewhere on tmp10:35
cehtehtmo10:35
hiemanshuhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/DBus/DBus_in_Freemantle#D-Bus10:36
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cityLightshttps://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/call-forward.c?revision=1&root=call-forward&view=markup10:50
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cityLightsseems I can do it easy10:52
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cityLightshi lardman10:55
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kevin_bAhoy11:14
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kevin_bhow could I enlarge my ext2 image ?11:15
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keriokevin_b: i get a lot of spam about that!11:16
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kevin_bkerio : :)11:18
kevin_bgoogle told me how to do it, muhaha11:19
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scaerdhi11:21
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scaerdIm trying to use nmap as sudo gainroot (UDP scan) but i get error   route_dst-netlink: cant find interface "gprs0". How can udp scan from maemo on a phone?11:22
scaerdifconfig shows gprs0 with working IP and the connection is working fine.11:23
kevin_bmmm, is the gsm interface able to "scan"?11:24
cehtehit isnt ethernet at least11:24
scaerdim on 3G11:24
kevin_bi guess that's possible11:25
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scaerdu mean the network doesnt support udp/ip ?11:25
scaerdim not sure how nmap scans udp, but ports show up as either filtered or open OR filtered11:26
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scaerdin maemo it does not find gprs0. tcp scans work fine.11:27
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lardmancityLights: a belated hello :)11:42
cityLightsI wish I could see amazon instant video on my N90011:52
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cityLightsit wants flash 10....11:52
cityLightswill the N9 solve it?11:52
kerioi doubt the N9 will solve anything11:53
jieroIs there a way to improve N900's video recording?11:53
jieroI hope Nokia could open source and let others fix that lags...11:54
lardmanLag when starting recording or audio/video sync?11:58
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jierolardman: when recording12:00
jierolardman: and playback12:00
jierolardman:  watching it I felt losed some frames suddenly12:01
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DocScrutinizercityLights: as for time being it seems N9 will come with no flash support at all12:32
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DocScrutinizercityLights: mind you N9 is an iPhone-me-too12:32
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DocScrutinizercityLights:12:44
DocScrutinizerAT+CCFC=?12:44
DocScrutinizer+CCFC: (0-5)12:44
DocScrutinizerOK12:44
DocScrutinizerpnatd12:44
DocScrutinizersee http://mobil.nik.bmf.hu/tantargyak/mobil-2/gsm-at.ppt p.1012:45
DocScrutinizerat+ccfc=0,212:48
DocScrutinizer+CCFC: 0,712:48
DocScrutinizerOK12:48
auenfAT&V12:49
DocScrutinizer(note I'm handwaving regarding the parameters, the linked ppt is all but clear on them)12:49
* auenf tries to remember his modem commands12:49
DocScrutinizerauenf: you're pretty lost when trying to use old time 600ohm-landline modem codes on 3GPP ME12:50
DocScrutinizerat&v work great though ;-D12:51
DocScrutinizerwho'd have thought the BB5 cellmo has a "complete" set of registers ;-P12:51
DocScrutinizerACTIVE PROFILE:12:52
DocScrutinizerE1 Q0 V1 X5 &C1 &D2 &S0 &Y012:52
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DocScrutinizer+CMEE=0 +CSTA=129 +CBST=134,1,0 +CR=0 +CRC=0 +CLIP=0,2 +CLIR=0,2 +CSNS=012:52
DocScrutinizer+CVHU=1 +DS=0,0,2048,32 +DR=0 +ILRR=012:52
auenfpretty sure all the old school AT commands will work (or are emulated) in 3GPP devices ;)12:52
DocScrutinizerS00:000 S01:000 S02:043 S03:013 S04:010 S05:008 S07:075 S08:00212:52
DocScrutinizerS10:100 S12:050 S25:00012:52
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lardmanjiero: sorry for the delay, was doing baby bathing; I wonder if that's a GStreamer issue rather than DSP codec12:53
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jierolardman:  I think the mediaplayer by deafult not using GStreamer.12:54
lardmanhmm, not so sure about that - we're talking about N900 here?12:55
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lardmanpretty sure it's all gst, probably also on N950, though I've not looked12:55
lardmanyou could check that the media player is linked against of course12:56
lardmans/that/what12:56
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jierothanks, as Nokia abandoned N900, no more support on it I suppose...13:00
jieroSome bugs there I guess.13:00
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DocScrutinizerauenf: most of them, yes13:02
DocScrutinizeranyway for call forwarding I don't recall any such function in pots13:03
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chem|stDocScrutinizer: moo13:08
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DocScrutinizermoo13:11
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ruskiehttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/06/nokia_ring_tone/ <-- omg... are they finally getting rid of that annoying Nokia tune???15:26
jacekowskioh no15:26
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MohammadAGthe N950 ringtone's nice15:33
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ruskiean orchestral version of the nokia tune might be interesting15:33
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ruskiemaybe a bit more slowed down15:33
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SpeedEvilNokia new ringtone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NbIGnY_DSIE#t=56s (perhaps with the bassline dropped)15:41
SpeedEvilIn my defence - someone linked me to it.15:41
MohammadAGI have the perfect version15:44
ruskieme to... windows fanfare ;)15:44
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MohammadAGno, http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=7609500&q=hi&newref=1 :)15:45
MohammadAG(your browser window may resize, I assure you though, it's no meatspin)15:45
SpeedEvilTrue. - If and only if phone speakers had actual bass15:45
ruskiedon't have any sound listening tech at work really15:46
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SpeedEvilWhy do I have the strange urge to do a review of a mango as a phone for youtube.15:47
ruskierofl15:47
ruskiethat would be an interesting review15:47
MohammadAG"So as you can see, I left it dismantled for a week, and it became rotten, we expect this to be due to prerelease software"15:48
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SpeedEvilI buy mangos monthly, and keep them in the fridge15:49
SpeedEvillast three weeks easily15:49
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RST38hhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/06/ubuntu_11_10_beta_1_review/ <== Ubuntu gone16:02
Arkenoilooks ugly as hell^Wgnome316:04
bindiunusable PoS16:04
MohammadAGhas the best repos, just install gnome 2 on top16:05
hiemanshuwell if you use Ubuntu, I feel sorry for you16:06
hiemanshuthey have X11 conf files in /usr/lib somewhere16:06
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hiemanshu/usr/local16:06
bindithere is no conf files16:06
bindithat's the fun part16:06
MohammadAGUmm16:06
hiemanshuthere is16:06
MohammadAGthat's been the case for Ubuntu and Fedora16:06
hiemanshuif you want to add custom stuff, there is16:06
hiemanshuMohammadAG: Fedora?16:06
bindiright16:06
MohammadAGyes16:06
MohammadAGit auto detects configuration16:06
bindianyway I feel sorry for those who use linux as their desktop ´_`16:06
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MohammadAGyou can use a config file in the default location16:07
MohammadAG/etc/X11/Xorg.conf16:07
MohammadAGxorg*16:07
MohammadAGif that exists, it will use it16:07
hiemanshuMohammadAG: not for ubuntu anymore16:07
MohammadAGif you mess up the file, just mv/rm it, and it defaults back16:07
MohammadAGwrong16:07
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MohammadAGmohammad@mohammad-i5laptop:~/lyricsmtf$ ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf16:08
MohammadAG/etc/X11/xorg.conf16:08
MohammadAGit's 11.0416:08
RST38hMohammad: Apparently they just kicked Gnome216:08
RST38hMohammad: completely, I mean16:09
RST38hNot clear on Gnome316:09
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* Arkenoi wonders what is attractive in g3 that much so people start COPYING it!16:10
MohammadAGRST38h, afaik they kicked X11 in 11.1016:10
MohammadAGWayland FTW!!!116:10
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bindieverything is so complicated on linux :)16:11
bindiwindows, it just works16:11
RST38hMohammad: Noooooooooooooooooooo....16:11
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MohammadAGWindows just works?16:11
EvanescenceCtrl-I is same with Tab on N900. so which key is same with "Esc" on N900 ? I want to used in vim .16:11
MohammadAGhahahaa16:11
MohammadAGuse :q16:11
bindiit does :>16:11
RST38hArkenoi: they are not copying g3. They (unity, g3, windows) are all copying ipad16:12
bindi:D16:12
RST38hArkenoi: Or, if you wish, Maemo4 hildon-desktop :)16:12
MohammadAGI wish they'd copy 5's16:12
MohammadAGhildon-desktop would be awesome on a tablet16:12
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RST38hArkenoi: There is now a popular belief that users no longer work with documents on their computers, so they do not need a desktop16:13
peetahEvanescence: Ctrl-C behaves as Esc in vim16:13
RST38hArkenoi; what they need is a task manager to let them switch between their music player, video player, online stores, and an ebook reader16:13
RST38hand web browser of course16:14
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Evanescencepeetah: thanks16:14
RST38hhence all these task-manager based shells, and it will get worse with time16:14
Arkenoiwhat I hate most in g3 is that in dual monitor config one of monitors stays intact when i switch workspaces16:16
Arkenoiand second thing is that almost all settings are just GONE16:16
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RST38hNormal people do not need settings. Only freaks do.16:22
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Jartzawhere is unrar for maemo5?17:15
MohammadAGapt-get install unrar17:15
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SpeedEvilprobably tools repo, you should add that17:17
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MohammadAGno, devel17:17
JartzaI seem to be missing a repo17:17
SpeedEvilThough beware that thesea re not optified, and can do bad stuff to your device if you fill up /17:17
SpeedEviloh17:18
Jartzasure, I just wasn't aware of the repo it's in17:18
cityLightsI used to have screen in the n80017:18
cityLightsbut no more17:18
Jartzahmm. devel seems to be enabled17:18
cityLightscan anyone pls build screen?17:19
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jacekowskicityLights: it's there17:19
jacekowskicityLights: in tools repo17:19
DocScrutinizerIroN900:~# apt-cache search unrar17:19
DocScrutinizerunrar-fm - A simple file-manager add-on to unrar files by clicking on them17:19
DocScrutinizerunrar - Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)17:19
DocScrutinizerunrar-free - Unarchiver for .rar files17:19
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DocScrutinizerscreen - a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation17:20
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Jartzaahh. now it works. thx.17:20
DocScrutinizer500 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/tools/free Packages17:20
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DocScrutinizerIroN900:~# apt-cache policy  unrar-free ->500 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle-1.3/free Packages17:21
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DocScrutinizergenerally http://maemo.org/packages/ is your friend17:25
DocScrutinizergets you to http://maemo.org/packages/view/screen-n900/ for example in a second17:27
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DocScrutinizersame for unrar17:28
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DocScrutinizeradmittedly it may take 0..20s if maemo.org has ointment day17:30
DocScrutinizer10..2017:30
Venemo_N950morning Doc!17:32
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DocScrutinizerhi Venemo_N95017:39
DocScrutinizerheard there's a new firmware for your n950 ;-P17:39
Venemo_N950what's up?17:39
DocScrutinizergnhnhnhn17:39
Venemo_N950wut? new firmware? where can I download?17:40
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DocScrutinizerNokia hid it at the same location where you previously got the "old" OCF17:41
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Venemo_N950DocScrutinizer, or is this some kind of joke?17:41
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DocScrutinizernot really17:42
Venemo_N950hm, gimeealink!17:42
Venemo_N950can I update ota?17:42
DocScrutinizerhttp://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/latest.log.html#t2011-09-06T10:25:2517:43
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MohammadAGwhat update?17:44
DocScrutinizerthe SEKRIT update17:45
RST38hupdate? update?!?17:46
Venemo_N950hmm17:46
DocScrutinizerOCF changed inadvertently17:46
MohammadAGso it's 22-6?17:46
Venemo_N950DocScrutinizer, does it actually work?17:46
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MohammadAGmakes me wonder if it breaks javispedro's break17:46
DocScrutinizersome say it works, some (hiemansu) say if fails for them17:46
DocScrutinizernobody knows what'S the true diff17:46
Venemo_N950DocScrutinizer, does it workforyou?17:47
DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: fair assumption17:47
fiferboyI reflash last night with the OCF, I don't see anything different offhand...17:47
Venemo_N950also, wut's the version number?17:47
DocScrutinizerVenemo_N950: I don't need a reflash right now17:47
Venemo_N950mhm17:47
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hiemanshufiferboy: whats the md5sum of it?17:49
MohammadAG<DocScrutinizer> Venemo_N950: I don't need a reflash right now17:49
MohammadAGthat's where aegis comes in17:49
DocScrutinizeryou'd think if Nokia doesn't advertise it, it's either been a fix for sth terribly embarrassing or a fix for a security vulnerability17:49
MohammadAGedit an aegis config, and you'll need a reflash right away17:49
hiemanshuDocScrutinizer: for i in *aegis*; do cat 'DIE BITCH DIE' > $i; done17:50
hiemanshuDocScrutinizer: that should do it for you :P17:50
Venemo_N950fiferboy, wut's the version number?17:50
fiferboyhiemanshu, The flasher is on my home PC17:50
RST38hWhat is the version number, anyway?17:50
hiemanshufiferboy: if its 88 something new, 1c something old17:50
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fiferboy1.2011.22-6 in the about screen, that's the old one right?17:51
hiemanshuthey are numbered the same17:51
RST38hsound slike the old one17:51
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MohammadAGoh oh oh I know17:52
Venemo_N95022-6 IS the old one17:52
MohammadAGcheck About Device -> Warranty, maybe they made the joke funnier17:53
fiferboysame warranty message17:53
Venemo_N950MohammadAG, "this device comes with no warranty"?17:53
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Venemo_N950is it funnier?17:54
MohammadAGidk, haven't reflashed once yet17:54
cityLightsok I admit its been a while , since I used the maemo dbus17:54
cityLightsI may need help to achive putting the N900 to call farwarding17:55
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cityLightsneed to mimike this:17:57
cityLightsmethod call sender=:1.268 -> dest=com.nokia.csd serial=99 path=/com/nokia/csd/ss; interface=com.nokia.csd.SS; member=DivertActivate17:57
cityLights   uint32 517:57
cityLights   string "112233"17:57
cityLights   uint32 2017:57
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DocScrutinizermeh17:59
DocScrutinizerwhy don't you use pnatd?17:59
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cityLightsI want to run it via shell17:59
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DocScrutinizerI'd bet I've seen a script using pnatd once18:01
MohammadAGit's a normal dbus message18:01
MohammadAGjust use dbus-send18:01
DocScrutinizerthere's no way to run pnatd other than in a shell btw - just to *quit* it is the trick18:01
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cityLightsI had now idea what pnatd ment18:02
cityLightsbut I googled...18:02
cityLightsofono18:02
cityLightsbtw I shoudl add it to the wiki, as this is SO helpfull18:03
cityLightsMohammadAG: hi there18:03
DocScrutinizereh?18:03
DocScrutinizerpnatd is installed on maemo by default18:03
DocScrutinizerit's a command shell directly to modem18:03
cityLightsis there a wiki?18:04
DocScrutinizertakes old fashioned AT commands18:04
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DocScrutinizerno, there's just google, and the links and cmdline quotes I pasted here for your some hours ago18:05
cityLightsMohammadAG: if you can spare a min a tell me how to issue the dbus-send command for what I put18:05
DocScrutinizerbut of course dbus-send should probably work too, though has potential to get a real PITA18:05
DocScrutinizerdbus-send --method-call com.nokia.csd /com/nokia/csd/ss com.nokia.csd.SS uint32=5 s="112233" uint32=2018:07
DocScrutinizersth like that18:07
DocScrutinizersee wiki phonecontrol for "templates"18:07
cityLightsthanks18:07
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cityLightsyou are very helpfull18:07
DocScrutinizernot really, as I'm tired. Sorry18:07
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DocScrutinizerhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control18:08
DocScrutinizerhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Make_a_phone_call is a good template18:09
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cityLightsdbus-send --type=method-call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS uint32=5 s="0731234567" uint32=2018:11
cityLightsMessage type "method-call" is not supported18:11
cityLightserr...18:11
DocScrutinizerand damn sure it's welcome when you add that call forward dbus call there, once you figured how to write it and tested it18:12
DocScrutinizermethod_call, and uint32:2018:12
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DocScrutinizerotherwise it looks good18:13
DocScrutinizeryou quite probably don't need any " around the second path parameter18:14
cityLightsdbus-send --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597" variant:uint32:2018:14
cityLightsError org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.nokia.csd was not provided by any .service files18:14
DocScrutinizeryeah that's where I got mad about this stuff18:14
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MohammadAGdbus-send --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd /com/nokia/csd/ss com.nokia.csd.SS uint32:5 string:"0737005597" uint32:2018:15
MohammadAGwhat about that?18:15
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cityLightsError org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.nokia.csd was not provided by any .service files18:16
MohammadAGdbus-send -system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd /com/nokia/csd/ss com.nokia.csd.SS uint32:5 string:"0737005597" uint32:2018:16
MohammadAGerr, --system18:16
cityLightsdbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd /com/nokia/csd/ss com.nokia.csd.SS uint32:5 string:"0737005597" uint32:218:17
cityLightsError org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "SS" with signature "usu" on interface "com.nokia.csd" doesn't exist18:17
MohammadAGwell, that's a better error18:17
DocScrutinizermarginally better, yeah18:17
DocScrutinizerthis might mean the parameter list is wrong, or the function name doesn't exist on that interface18:18
MohammadAGparameters are incorrect obviously18:18
DocScrutinizertry lower case ss just in case18:18
MohammadAGtry the variants again18:18
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DocScrutinizerwhere from are those variants?18:19
cityLightsdbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597" variant:uint32:2018:19
cityLightsError org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "SS" with signature "vsv" on interface "com.nokia.csd" doesn't exist18:19
DocScrutinizeralso what's about "member=DivertActivate"18:19
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DocScrutinizermdbus2 doesn't find any com.nikia.csd - no surprise as all those frigging broken dbus interfaces don't support introspection afaik18:22
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cityLightsnot true18:24
cityLightsI also found this18:24
cityLightsDBusMessage *msg = dbus_message_new_method_call("com.nokia.csd.SS",18:24
cityLights232 "/com/nokia/csd/ss",18:24
cityLights233 "com.nokia.csd.SS",18:24
cityLights234 "DivertActivate");18:24
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cityLightsDocScrutinizer:https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/wiki/index.php?Tools&id=1106&type=g18:25
cityLightsDBus introspection  works for csd18:25
DocScrutinizeruhuh18:25
DocScrutinizerso tell me why mdbis2 throws "MDBUS2> com.nokia.csd com[ERR]: The name com.nokia.csd was not provided by any .service files"18:26
DocScrutinizermdbus2 even18:26
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cityLightshttp://dpaste.com/609878/18:27
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DocScrutinizerIroN900:~# dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS.DivertActivate variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597" variant:uint32:2018:29
DocScrutinizerError com.nokia.csd.SS.Error.Generic: Invalid Parameter18:29
DocScrutinizerIroN900:~# dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS.DivertActivat variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597" variant:uint32:2018:29
DocScrutinizerError org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "DivertActivat" with signature "vsv" on interface "com.nokia.csd.SS" doesn't exist18:29
cityLightscom.nokia.csd.SS.ActivateDivert18:31
DocScrutinizerseems >>com.nokia.csd.SS.DivertActivat<< is worse than >>com.nokia.csd.SS.DivertActivate<<18:31
cityLightsIroN900:~# dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS.ActivateDivert variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597 variant:uint32:2018:31
cityLights"18:32
cityLightsIroN900:~# dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS.ActivateDivert variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597" variant:uint32:2018:32
cityLightserr18:32
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DocScrutinizer[2011-09-06 17:24:45] <cityLights> 234 "DivertActivate");18:33
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DocScrutinizer[2011-09-06 16:57:25] <cityLights> method call sender=:1.268 -> dest=com.nokia.csd serial=99 path=/com/nokia/csd/ss; interface=com.nokia.csd.SS; member=DivertActivate18:33
cityLightsI saw  "DivertActivate in dbus-monitor18:33
DocScrutinizerand it evidently is a known word18:34
DocScrutinizerunlike DivertActivat18:34
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DocScrutinizercityLights: anyway what's up with your pasted cmdlines above?18:35
cityLightsthese came from the dbus-monitpr18:36
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DocScrutinizerwut? >>dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS.ActivateDivert variant:uint32:5 string:"0737005597 variant:uint32:20<<  for sure isn't a dbus-monitor output18:36
cityLightsI ran bus-monitor --system destination=com.nokia.csd.SS18:37
cityLightsand got18:37
cityLightsmethod call sender=:1.268 -> dest=com.nokia.csd serial=99 path=/com/nokia/csd/ss; interface=com.nokia.csd.SS; member=DivertActivate18:37
cityLights   uint32 518:37
cityLights   string "112233"18:37
cityLights   uint32 2018:37
DocScrutinizerIroN900:~# dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.csd.SS "/com/nokia/csd/ss" com.nokia.csd.SS.DivertActivate uint32:5 string:"0737005597" uint32:2018:38
DocScrutinizerError com.nokia.csd.SS.Error.SS.General: CALL BARRED18:38
DocScrutinizerSUCCESS18:38
DocScrutinizerCALL BARRED means I'm not allowed to use that redirect destination18:38
cityLightsYES18:39
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cityLightslet me put it in the wiki now18:39
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DocScrutinizerplease remove the " around "/com/nokia/csd/ss"18:40
DocScrutinizeruseless18:40
DocScrutinizeralso some explaining words about what's the meaning of those uint32 would be great18:41
DocScrutinizer20 sounds like seconds until divert18:41
DocScrutinizerI might be wrong18:41
cityLightstrue18:41
DocScrutinizerNFC what 5 might mean18:42
MohammadAGtry 5 times and you'll win a toaster18:42
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DocScrutinizerhah, ircd7 upgrade18:43
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cityLightsall done now18:47
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blizzowIs there a codec package for the n900 that allows me to play .mov files?19:31
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* javispedro is going to say that this ( http://nokiatune.audiodraft.com/ ) should win worst idea of the year award19:37
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GeneralAntillesjavispedro, Nokia Ninjas and black helicopters incoming.19:45
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javispedroGeneralAntilles, but c'mon, just hear any of them19:47
javispedrodoes anyone really envision any of them as your phone's bootup / ring tune19:47
* javispedro would run away if my phone were to make such noise19:47
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javispedro(maybe it's beause I'm shorting per facebook votes...)19:48
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MohammadAGjavispedro, email this guy and tell him to join in http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=7609500&q=hi&newref=1 :P19:51
fralswow that page did not have a volume control19:51
fralsand jesus christ top one is bad19:51
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javispedroeither way, the idea is bad in concept even, not only execution -- if you let one of the "epic" ones win, you alienate half of nokia's userbase. Choose the "jazz" one, and you alienate the other half.19:54
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MohammadAGI'd say include it in the phone but don't make it default19:55
MohammadAGthe N950 one is pretty good19:55
MohammadAGgotta love how youtubers think it's a sea ray19:55
MohammadAGit looks like an N9, it's curved, and it swipes into 201119:55
javispedronot _my_ youtubers, which usually PM me "$700. Sell or not?"19:56
net-splitn950 hw is hilarious19:56
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MohammadAGjavispedro, tell them to send the money first19:58
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MohammadAGqole was here?!19:59
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javispedroMohammadAG: same thought =)20:00
MohammadAGheh20:01
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dRbiGanyone figured out a way to tether n900 with win xp over bluetooth _without_ pc suite or other *crap*?20:26
jacekowskiyeah20:28
jacekowskilike any other phone20:28
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dRbiGi vageuely remember than when i was setting up this on my palm iii it involved some magic numbers the sort of *99** etc etc20:32
dRbiGhmm20:32
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dRbiGgot it :)20:50
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Creteilinfobot, $5021:08
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