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| cehteh | some time ago i set up my own jabber server, way better for IM, no one snooping my conversations there | 00:00 |
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| Pali | DocScrutinizer05: problem is that: google (til now) had real jabber server. so you from your own jabber server were able to write message to @gmail.com contact | 00:35 |
| Pali | but now google decided to cut connection between google's jabber server and other jabber servers | 00:35 |
| Sc0rpius | and why would anyone that's not running a business have a jabber server? | 00:35 |
| Sc0rpius | and not just an account in gmail server? | 00:35 |
| Pali | and why should have account on gmail server? | 00:36 |
| Pali | if already have account on other jabber server?? | 00:36 |
| Sc0rpius | you already have an account in the gmail server | 00:38 |
| Sc0rpius | you have a gmail address | 00:38 |
| Sc0rpius | convenience | 00:38 |
| Sc0rpius | if I tell my wife "create an account in a jabber server so I can IM you during the day" | 00:39 |
| Sc0rpius | will be the worst mistake I would ever make in my whole life | 00:39 |
| Pali | and so I should tell to all my friends "to create account on gmail.com because I want to chat with us"? | 00:43 |
| Pali | this is nonsense | 00:43 |
| Sc0rpius | all your friends have already Gmail accounts | 00:44 |
| Sc0rpius | who in this world doesn't have a gmail account? | 00:45 |
| Sc0rpius | I don't know ANYBODY without a @gmail.com address. | 00:45 |
| Win7Mac | you're lost... | 00:45 |
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| Sc0rpius | and if all your friends have jabber accounts and you too then why do you need Google? | 00:47 |
| Sc0rpius | just use your servers. | 00:47 |
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| Sc0rpius | I think Google was forced to do the call | 00:50 |
| Sc0rpius | everybody is expecting GTalk to be something bigger and better than WhatsApp and Blackberry Messenger and all that shi | 00:50 |
| Sc0rpius | shit | 00:50 |
| Sc0rpius | and I don't think Google can do that without getting rid of Jabber and change the XMPP into something of their own | 00:51 |
| Sc0rpius | like WhatsApp (that's also XMPP but compressed and encrypted) | 00:51 |
| Sc0rpius | I'm wating for multimedia transfer, location sharing, contacts sharing, etc from GTalk from way too many time already | 00:51 |
| Sc0rpius | s/wating/waiting | 00:51 |
| Sc0rpius | too much | 00:52 |
| Sc0rpius | and Google obviously is losing the IM war | 00:52 |
| Sc0rpius | to WhatsApp, BBM, Line, Viber, etc. | 00:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | dang, I forgot to tell infobot about "dumped by google" | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | watts up | 01:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | the battery monitor gadget for ebikes | 01:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | ~ping | 01:21 |
| infobot | ~pong | 01:21 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | infobot: ping | 01:22 |
| infobot | ~pong | 01:22 |
| Win7Mac | bored? | 01:27 |
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| kerio | ~ping | 02:30 |
| infobot | ~pong | 02:30 |
| kerio | ~pong | 02:30 |
| infobot | ~ping | 02:30 |
| kerio | :D | 02:30 |
| kerio | ~botsnack | 02:30 |
| infobot | thanks, kerio | 02:30 |
| kerio | yw | 02:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | not bored, just propagation delay of some 60s | 02:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | at my end, both pong came same time | 03:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | actually I had no | 03:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-05-18 00:22:32] <infobot> ~pong | 03:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on my N900, but two | 03:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-05-18 00:22:52] <infobot> ~pong | 03:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~ding | 03:04 |
| infobot | dong | 03:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~king | 03:04 |
| infobot | i guess king is Dessimat0r | 03:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~kong | 03:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo king | 03:05 |
| infobot | king -- created by Dessimat0r <Dessimat0r@public1-birk1-3-cust60.bagu.broadband.ntl.com> at Fri Jan 10 19:27:16 2003 (3780 days); it has been requested 7 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 59s ago. | 03:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~literal king | 03:06 |
| infobot | "king" is "Dessimat0r" | 03:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, king is kong, or Dessimat0r | 03:06 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay | 03:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~king | 03:06 |
| infobot | [king] kong, or Dessimat0r | 03:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo king | 03:06 |
| infobot | king -- created by Dessimat0r <Dessimat0r@public1-birk1-3-cust60.bagu.broadband.ntl.com> at Fri Jan 10 19:27:16 2003 (3780 days); last modified 22s ago by DocScrutinizer05!~HaleBopp@openmoko/engineers/joerg; it has been requested 8 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 17s ago. | 03:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~sing | 03:07 |
| infobot | I'm Sexy and I know it! Yea! | 03:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~song | 03:07 |
| infobot | it has been said that song is what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl | 03:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm a barbioe giiiirl, in a barbie wooorld | 03:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~song | 03:09 |
| infobot | [song] what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl | 03:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~factinfo song | 03:09 |
| infobot | song -- created by Templarian <n=Templari@ppp-69-214-5-27.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net> at Sun Jan 24 02:44:53 2010 (1209 days); it has been requested 6 times, last by DocScrutinizer05, 24s ago. | 03:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~kong is ~king | 03:31 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay | 03:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~dong | 03:31 |
| infobot | ding | 03:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~pong | 03:32 |
| infobot | ~ping | 03:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, song is ~sing, or what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl | 03:33 |
| infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 | 03:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~song | 03:33 |
| infobot | i heard song is ~sing, or what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl | 03:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, song is <reply>~sing, or what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl | 03:33 |
| infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 | 03:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~song | 03:33 |
| infobot | ~sing, or what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl | 03:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~sing | 03:34 |
| infobot | I'm Sexy and I know it! Yea! | 03:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, sing is <reply>~song, or "I'm Sexy and I know it! Yea!" | 03:35 |
| infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 | 03:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~sing | 03:35 |
| infobot | ~song, or "I'm Sexy and I know it! Yea!" | 03:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~pong | 03:45 |
| infobot | ~ping | 03:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~dong | 03:45 |
| infobot | ding | 03:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~song | 03:45 |
| infobot | ~sing, or what I listen to such as Aqua's Barbie Girl | 03:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~kong | 03:45 |
| infobot | i guess kong is ~king | 03:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | infobot: no, kong is <reply>~king | 03:46 |
| infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 | 03:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~kong | 03:46 |
| infobot | ~king | 03:46 |
| jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: why are you having Seinfeldian conversation with a bot? :) | 03:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~wiki seinfeld | 03:47 |
| infobot | At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinfeld (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{Other uses}} {{Infobox television |show_name = Seinfeld |image = |genre = Sitcom |director = Art WolffTom CheronesAndy AckermanDavid Steinberg |runtime = 22 minutes |creator = Larry DavidJerry Seinfeld |starring = Jerry SeinfeldJulia Louis-DreyfusMichael RichardsJason Alexander |executive_producer = Larry David (seasons 1â7)Benjamin Scott (seasons 3â5)Howard WestGeorge ... | 03:47 |
| jon_y | inane conversations :) | 03:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not having conversations, I'm checking/maintaining a database | 03:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~status | 03:49 |
| infobot | Since Thu May 16 18:12:47 2013, there have been 23 modifications, 99 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 39 commands. I have been awake for 1d 6h 36m 22s this session, and currently reference 119055 factoids. I'm using about 24076 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 391.98/8.35 child 0/0 | 03:49 |
| jon_y | well it already sounds like it, carry on | 03:49 |
| jon_y | :) | 03:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm wased by today's private and hidden and public debates and arguments | 03:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wasted even | 03:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~botsnack | 03:51 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: :) | 03:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cya | 03:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when you wanna know details, see http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-meeting-irclog/ | 03:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and that reveals only 20% | 03:53 |
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| GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer05, deep breath. I feel deja vu reading that log. | 04:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | Relax and cut yourself and other people some slack. | 04:11 |
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| dhbiker | hi there | 04:51 |
| dhbiker | anyone here ? | 04:51 |
| dhbiker | i can't seem to get on Nokia's page for N900 image | 04:51 |
| dhbiker | for flashing o.O | 04:51 |
| dhbiker | An error occurred while processing your request. | 04:51 |
| dhbiker | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php | 04:52 |
| dhbiker | does it work for anyone ? | 04:52 |
| nox- | ~skeiron | 04:52 |
| infobot | from memory, skeiron is the semi-official backup and emergency standin for all internet borne maemo resources: http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143 | 04:52 |
| dhbiker | sweet | 04:54 |
| dhbiker | tnx nox- | 04:54 |
| nox- | np | 04:54 |
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| dhbiker | mmm the sight of fresh flash :D | 05:14 |
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| dhbiker | sooo.... phone not booting and not going into flash mode | 07:21 |
| dhbiker | let me guess empty battery ? | 07:21 |
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| Muelli | ~bupbat | 15:32 |
| infobot | [bupbat] http://www.mouser.com/catalog/632/2009.pdf http://il.farnell.com/taiyo-yuden/pas414hr-va5r/cap-0-06f-3-3v-80ohm-4-8mm-coin/dp/1853000?Ntt=PAS414HR-VA5R, or use the capacitive type, LiIon are breaking during 12 months | 15:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dhbiker, nox-: | 15:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~tabletsdev | 15:35 |
| infobot | rumour has it, tabletsdev is http://repository.maemo.org/tabletsdev/ | 15:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~skeiron is also see: ~tabletsdev | 15:36 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05: okay | 15:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~skeiron | 15:36 |
| infobot | skeiron is probably the semi-official backup and emergency standin for all internet borne maemo resources: http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1315143#post1315143, or see: ~tabletsdev | 15:36 |
| Muelli | hm. I don't understand that bupbat information. It suggests that there a two types of elements that one could use to replace the CMOS battery. The farnell link brings me to the capacitor. But what's the other option? | 15:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LiIon | 15:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | deprecated | 15:37 |
| Muelli | is there any information on the specs of that LiIon battery? Like type number or smth? I want to head out to Conrad and they don't seem to have that type of capacitor. So I'm enumerating alternatives. | 15:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Conrad can't help you | 15:40 |
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| dhbiker | hi there | 15:46 |
| dhbiker | what to do if flasher says | 15:47 |
| dhbiker | Version of 'sw-release': RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_MR0 | 15:47 |
| dhbiker | Booting device into flash mode. | 15:47 |
| dhbiker | and after that nothing | 15:47 |
| dhbiker | orange light and thats it | 15:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/capacitors/electric-double-layer-capacitors-supercaps/131084?k=414hr <--bupbat | 15:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?pv32=115&FV=fff40006%2Cfff804e4&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25 <--bupbat LiIon | 15:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | HB414-IV02E probably original component | 15:51 |
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| miniyo | hi guys, can anyone give any hint on how to proceed with http://pastebin.com/YnxQKirk ? | 15:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dhbiker: charge your battery | 15:58 |
| dhbiker | i did | 15:59 |
| dhbiker | flashed | 15:59 |
| dhbiker | and now it doesn't want to start up | 15:59 |
| dhbiker | ffs | 15:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~flash | 15:59 |
| infobot | rumour has it, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 15:59 |
| dhbiker | i'm on thi page | 15:59 |
| dhbiker | s* | 15:59 |
| dhbiker | now it powers on and instantly shuts down at nokia logo | 16:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then your procedure is not in line with what the page tells to do | 16:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | do a complete reflash (*COMBINED* and *VANILLA*) | 16:01 |
| Muelli | DocScrutinizer05: thanks for the battery information. | 16:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yw | 16:01 |
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| dhbiker | apparently the other phone lied about charge | 16:01 |
| dhbiker | seems like this one is out of juice | 16:02 |
| dhbiker | -.- | 16:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | toldya | 16:02 |
| dhbiker | charging with nokia c3 | 16:03 |
| dhbiker | kay then i do the right stuff... only the batter needs to be properly charged | 16:03 |
| dhbiker | ty DocScrutinizer05 | 16:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yw | 16:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | miniyo: are you even in the right channel? this looks like N9 to me | 16:04 |
| Muelli | too bad it's 30 USD shipping for the 1USB capacitor >.< | 16:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, | 16:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~questions | 16:04 |
| Muelli | s/USB/USD/ | 16:04 |
| infobot | remember, there are no stupid questions, just stupid people. <http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html> | 16:04 |
| infobot | Muelli meant: too bad it's 30 USD shipping for the 1USD capacitor >.< | 16:04 |
| miniyo | DocScrutinizer05: its n900 | 16:05 |
| miniyo | I created empty folders, dpkg doesn't complaint now | 16:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Muelli: yeah, that's quite a problem | 16:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I several times started an effort to join orders to get the shipping cut down for every participant | 16:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it never panned out | 16:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for 5 people, it would look like: 1 bupbat = 1USD + (30/5)USD + 0.55EUR for a standard international letter | 16:08 |
| Muelli | plus 19%VAT | 16:09 |
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| Muelli | Farnell seems to ship for free to the UK. | 16:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 25 http://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/PAS414HR-VA5R/587-2158-6-ND/1959165 = Zwischensumme 20,82 € Versand 18,00 € | 16:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~(20.82 + 18) / 25 | 16:18 |
| infobot | 1.5528 | 16:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | assuming you'd find enough people willing to get a few, at that price, so all 25 get sold | 16:19 |
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| Muelli | so ~2.50 each battery/capacitor (if the batteries do not have to go through customs). | 16:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 1.5528 | 16:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | plus shipping from De -> destination, usually .55EUR | 16:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | once per order | 16:21 |
| Muelli | nah. you can't even send a letter within Germany for that price ;-) It's 0.75 EUR. | 16:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ugh, since when? | 16:21 |
| Muelli | it's .75 for international letters for a long time. | 16:22 |
| Muelli | and .58 for domestic letters since 01.01. | 16:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | whatever | 16:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | 20 ct difference | 16:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on a total of at least 15EUR | 16:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since I wouldn't start for qty < 10 pcs | 16:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, maybe I'd do 5 qty, when 4 persons step up to get 5 | 16:24 |
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| * RST38h moos | 16:27 | |
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| Win7Mac | probably you can get them here?: http://de.rs-online.com/web/c/batterien/batterien/knopfzellen-batterien/ | 16:28 |
| rikanee | the battery's soldered anyway to the N900, why not replace it with a cap? | 16:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this *is* a cap | 16:30 |
| rikanee | ah, alright. | 16:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 60mF | 16:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | m like milli | 16:31 |
| rikanee | DocScrutinizer05: mmm, that should keep the RTC powered for some time | 16:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aka 0.06F | 16:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for a week or two I guess | 16:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway better than a LiIonMg cell that's supposed to power the RTC for 24 monzhs but breaks and is dead after 12 | 16:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P | 16:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not to talk about the mess when it leaks | 16:34 |
| rikanee | DocScrutinizer05: just one of the (numerous) little design flaws that made it into the N900. | 16:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that particular design (rather QA) flaw made it into several products | 16:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in Openmoko Freerunner we used exactly same friggin Seiko battery, and thus I already knew they would break after 12 months the latest ;-P | 16:35 |
| rikanee | well, they certainly didn't consider the fact that the user would welcome having to reset clock after having the battery drained for a year+++ than having to set clock again after having battery out for 3 seconds after a year of ownership ;) | 16:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I have like 80 spare here, from fab, and all are dead X-P | 16:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and don't ask about the nightmare to reflow those critters | 16:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nearly impossible | 16:37 |
| rikanee | DocScrutinizer05, assuming the battery didn't wet the bed, a chip-remover (directed flow?) hot air gun works well. | 16:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | i'm talking about production line | 16:39 |
| divVerent | wait... so the n900 has something (cap) to power the rtc when the battery is removed? | 16:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think in the end our fab had them hand assembled | 16:39 |
| divVerent | never worked for me ;) | 16:39 |
| rikanee | DocScrutinizer05, wait, you have 80 OM boards with dead batteries? | 16:39 |
| rikanee | ouch. | 16:39 |
| divVerent | not that I care much, I have ntp sync in the status dropdown | 16:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, 80 batteries | 16:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | unused fresh dead ones | 16:40 |
| rikanee | that's some awful shelf life. | 16:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 16:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Seiko cheating | 16:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's broken-at-production product | 16:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just it turns out only 12 months later | 16:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | divVerent: no surprise it never worked for you - probably you never owned a N900 that been younger than 12 months (since production) ;-P | 16:43 |
| divVerent | hehe, yes | 16:44 |
| divVerent | so this is a dead battery inside? | 16:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 16:44 |
| divVerent | will it leak if I dont remove it? | 16:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, possibly | 16:44 |
| Raimu | :| | 16:44 |
| divVerent | and it is soldered in? | 16:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 16:44 |
| divVerent | damn... so I probably should remove it but can't | 16:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | directly next to power button | 16:45 |
| divVerent | so best I can do is hope it will not leak | 16:45 |
| rikanee | divVerent: not only is there a dead battery inside, there's a dead battery with likely awful electrolytic inside | 16:45 |
| divVerent | they all have awful electrolyte ;) | 16:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, it's not like a zinc-carbon battery, the leaking fluid is some organic acid that's not that destructive, it *seems* | 16:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but it's not exactly gentle to your skin | 16:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway the amount of electrolyte is small inside that 414 coin | 16:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | diameter 4.8mm, height 1.5mm (or somesuch) | 16:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and max 5% of that are electrolyte I guess | 16:47 |
| rikanee | oh, on an unrelated side note, my ISP just implemented capping and throttling on my unlimited plan. wonderful. | 16:48 |
| Raimu | rikanee, where'd you live? | 16:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.yuden.co.jp/productdata/catalog/en/capacitor01_e.pdf | 16:49 |
| rikanee | Raimu, the Philippines. | 16:49 |
| rikanee | since this is super ****ed, I'm going to my ISP this monday to terminate the contract and demand that they waive the ETF and CPE uninstall fee. | 16:50 |
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| Muelli | so here's what I'll do. I try to order at uk.farnell.com by Monday. Hoping that they'll deliver Tuesday or Wednesday. I'll meet up with a British friend and return the week after. So by 01.06 I should be in possession of the parts. Shall I order some more? Who wants stuff? | 16:55 |
| Muelli | (It's apparently free delivery to the UK) | 16:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | awesome! >> Don’t store PAS capacitor in a place where exposed to ozone, ultraviolet or x-ray. << | 16:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Muelli: sure, please get me 10 | 17:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Muelli: though I honestly doubt Farnell will deliver free of charge. They's lose money on doing that | 17:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no sane business will do stuff they lose money on | 17:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Fernel Germany calims free shipping for orders >=65EUR | 17:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/calims/offers/ | 17:06 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: Fernel Germany offers free shipping for orders >=65EUR | 17:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and Farnell of course | 17:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | but Farnell Deutschland doesn't ship to end users anyway, see http://www.hbe-shop.de/ for their end user outlet | 17:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | HBE ships free of charge for orders >=90EUR | 17:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Muelli: http://privatepaste.com/a11cd169b9 | 17:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | KONDENSATOR,0.06F, 3.3V, STAKED COIN ArtikelNr.: 2112777 Stückpreis: 1,13 € *10 = 11,30EUR; +~12EUR for shipping | 17:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Muelli: I'd offer to get some of those for you (any qty you like) for 1,13/unit plus 7EUR shipping contribution for the whole thing | 17:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | so you can get one for ~8EUR, or 10 for ~ 1.83/unit | 17:20 |
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| Muelli | I see | 17:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | if you give me a quantity you'd like, I'd go ordering right away | 17:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (would be honestly surprised if this time this pans out) | 17:30 |
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| kerio | ~rescueos | 18:58 |
| infobot | [rescue-os] http://206.253.166.96/N900/rescueOS/ | 18:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder if we could get rescueos to a more stable URL | 19:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I dunno if my mirror on maemo.cloud-7 is up to date | 19:10 |
| kerio | Pali: is the user supposed to change mount-opts? | 19:13 |
| kerio | what's the purpose of mount-opts-override? | 19:13 |
| Pali | mount-opts comes from DEB package | 19:14 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: i can offer a reasonable amount of web hosting | 19:14 |
| Pali | so it will be overwritten after other update | 19:14 |
| kerio | Pali: so? it's a config file | 19:14 |
| kerio | you get asked for overwriting | 19:14 |
| Pali | and we have HAM | 19:14 |
| kerio | ...oh right | 19:14 |
| Pali | which do not ask... | 19:14 |
| kerio | Pali: nodiratime is implied by noatime | 19:16 |
| Pali | options come from nokia | 19:16 |
| kerio | yeah | 19:16 |
| kerio | my point, really | 19:17 |
| kerio | i love the "nodev,nosuid" on vfat | 19:18 |
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| jaska | heh | 19:21 |
| kerio | welp, here goes nothing | 19:22 |
| kerio | (rebooting) | 19:22 |
| kerio | nope.jpg | 19:24 |
| kerio | Pali: halp | 19:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lol | 19:25 |
| kerio | i /think/ it can't mount /home | 19:25 |
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| Pali | kerio, and what you did? | 19:28 |
| kerio | so far, nothing | 19:28 |
| kerio | and there's nothing in /var/log | 19:28 |
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| * Wizzup is happy with external keyboard and mouse support; works like a charm with my virtual input devices :-) | 21:55 | |
| Wizzup | This command gives me both an external keyboard and mouse on my n900: ./input-read -CD /dev/input/event5 /dev/input/event7 | ssh root@nokia-n900 uinput-mapper/input-create -C | 21:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | wow | 22:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | USB? | 22:05 |
| Wizzup | Well, it's USB on my netbook. Then I read the input devices on my netbook and forward the events over ssh (marshalled) and create identical devices with uinput on the n900 | 22:06 |
| Apic | WHAT! | 22:06 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 always loves to hear somebody making good use of USB hostmode | 22:06 | |
| Wizzup | No, it's not USB hostmode. :-) | 22:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | UGH! | 22:06 |
| Wizzup | I will play more with that when I place the microusb AB connector on my n900 with broken usb | 22:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hehe | 22:07 |
| Wizzup | I'm using this program I wrote: http://hetgrotebos.org/wiki/uinput-mapper (it is actually pretty nice for input redirections) | 22:07 |
| Wizzup | More practical, perhaps, you can do the inverse | 22:08 |
| Wizzup | (clone the n900 touchscreen to your netbook, and use it as input there) | 22:08 |
| Wizzup | over wifi | 22:08 |
| Wizzup | The only problem is making sure that you don't click on too many things on the n900 X in the process ;-) | 22:12 |
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| kerio | Wizzup: does it perform significantly better than vnc | 22:16 |
| kerio | ? | 22:17 |
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| Wizzup | kerio: well, in this case, no display/screen is forwarded | 22:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Wizzup: sounds like a mad useful program | 22:27 |
| kerio | indeed | 22:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I always wondered how to mount or open devices on remote machines locally | 22:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ooooh, and it's python :3 | 22:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | how's thruput? | 22:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what about camera devices? | 22:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd love to mount the camera of N900-a to N900-b to have a wireless remote camera | 22:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, probably it's still just for *input* devices, right? | 22:35 |
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| Wizzup | DocScrutinizer05: I don't know about camera devices, it's probably a bit harder, but it should be possible, but not with uinput-mapper | 22:53 |
| Wizzup | But yeah, this is for input devices only. Maybe I can extend the idea but I would have to think about it | 22:54 |
| Wizzup | and yeah, it's python now. :-) was C before, but I switched to python once a basic concept worked | 22:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | seems a good starting point for my kbd/mouse versatile macro driver | 23:26 |
| Wizzup | You can also just program uinput directly with it, I think | 23:27 |
| Wizzup | but I'll be working on it more in the next few weeks (documentation etc) | 23:27 |
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