IRC log of #maemo for Sunday, 2013-05-19

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Sc0rpiusI wonder if promoting to extras-testing still works?01:44
Sc0rpiusI mean I can click on the "promote package" but I wonder if it'll ever be promoted01:44
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AddisonTo private message someone, the correct format is, "/msg person Comment", correct?05:55
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AddisonThank you Drifter.  So if I get a message back stating  "No such nick/channel: Person" they aren't online anywhere on the internet and not just here?06:12
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dr1fterAddison: uhm...are you new to the internet?06:40
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AddisonNot really.06:43
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Sc0rpiusmaybe new to IRC?07:12
Sc0rpiusbecause that was a funny question :)07:12
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panjgoorihello. can anyone add wget as a dependencie for Yamas ? as Yamas is dependent on wget.09:46
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raid__ask the maintainer10:03
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: still not a word about CSSU here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maemo :(14:26
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: it's a wiki16:06
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: >>Further development of Maemo 5 happens as a community effort in Maemo-CSSU.[12]<<  >>12. ^ http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU<<16:13
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: >>((history))  22:59, 5 December 2012‎ 84.147.178.233 (talk)‎ . . (49,926 bytes) (+271)‎ . . (→‎Maemo 5 (Fremantle): Added CSSU (by council member Joerg)) (undo)<<16:15
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: >>Programmed inC, C++, Mono C#<< .oO(???)16:30
DocScrutinizer05honestly if maemo5 was based on C#, I probably had abandoned ship before N900 rollout16:31
Pali:D:D16:32
Palisame Java16:33
jon_yat least it wasn't Visual .Net16:33
jon_yor Dalvik16:33
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PaliTodays stupid ideas to use VM on phones... Java/Dalvik or Mono/.Net16:35
DocScrutinizer05>>Kernel typeMonolithic (Linux)<< who created this pile of desinformation?16:35
DocScrutinizer05ashley: how about a major edit on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maemo ?16:36
PaliDocScrutinizer05: edit it16:36
DocScrutinizer05I'm not the wiki expert16:37
DocScrutinizer05ashley _is_ ;-)16:37
PaliCompany / developer: Hildon Foundation16:37
Palirelly?16:37
DocScrutinizer05I did my part on editing it already ;-)  --> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maemo&diff=next&oldid=52180922416:38
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GeneralAntillesWho put in the Hildon Foundation stuff?16:53
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ShadowJKSome people consider all linux kernels "monolithic", wheras linux people themselves use that term to describe kernel without modules.. which is kinda odd, since non-modular kernel support has been semi-broken for quite some time now17:06
WizzupLinux is definitely monolithic17:11
keriolinux is a monolithic kernel as opposed to microkernels17:15
keriowho the hell put "hildon foundation" there17:15
keriohildon foundation has done precisely jack shit for maemo17:16
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DocScrutinizer05KAMiKAZOW17:28
DocScrutinizer05https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maemo&diff=next&oldid=54289035817:28
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DocScrutinizer05kick it with the huge boot! pretty please!17:34
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DocScrutinizer05this edit been based on a misconception found even in parts of HiFo BoD themselves: that HiFo was successor of Nokia, meant to take care about development - as if HiFo had any developers (particularly full time paid ones) who could take orders from HiFo to continue on development of *Product Maemo*17:38
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DocScrutinizer05It honestly sounds like "Developer of Linux is Suse." And after maybe Suse been bought by Novell and Novell eventually bought by ACME Investment Fond: "Developer of Linux is ACME Invest"17:41
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GeneralAntillesI don't edit Wikipedia anymore.17:52
GeneralAntillesAfter the last run-in with their jackbooted admins17:52
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ApicGood Decision.17:57
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ashleyre:Wikipedia article on [[Maemo]], it's a wiki, feel free to edit it (-; I just did some minor formatting tweaks yesterday (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maemo&diff=555573283&oldid=552569893) but didn't bother actually checking all the facts; someone who's been around for a longer time than I should do that and then correct the incorrect parts18:10
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GeneralAntillesWikipedia's administration structure seems to serve primarily to keep the in-group in power18:11
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GeneralAntillesConfusing bureaucratic nonsense18:11
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ashleythe English Wikipedia has its peculiarities, that's true, but it's not exactly alone in that, as many much smaller Wikipedias can be equally bureaucratic and unwelcoming18:16
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GeneralAntillesashley, I wasn't making a distinction between any individual wikipedia.18:20
GeneralAntillesIt's a nice study in the bad things that happen with too much power and very little responsibility18:21
GeneralAntillesAnd a system that's set up to benefit people with too much free time on their hands.18:21
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RaimuOn the other hand it's not all bad19:51
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RaimuIt just naturally veers towards some of people's more shitty habits with no outside correction capabilities19:52
GeneralAntillesNo, I love wikipedia.19:53
DocScrutinizer05anyway, could somebody take care to correct some of the more obvious nonsense details there, please?20:11
freemangordon:nod:20:11
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DocScrutinizer05in my book maemo has no "monolithic" kernel, but we may discuss this here if that meaning of "monolithic" isn't in line with my personal one20:13
DocScrutinizer05for sure HiFo is not Company/developer20:14
DocScrutinizer05and afaik maemo5 isn't programmed in c#20:17
DocScrutinizer05aka mono (uaaaargh)20:17
DocScrutinizer05update methos: APT is misleading20:19
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DocScrutinizer05method:20:19
DocScrutinizer05Supported platforms   ARM architecture ---- HMM, really? schouldn't that be "NIT 770, N800, N810, N900, (N9)"?20:20
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DocScrutinizer05ok, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monolithic_kernel this *is* a monolithic kernel20:22
DocScrutinizer05though... is BME a device driver?20:22
DocScrutinizer05probably the DSP and GFX libs are device drivers20:23
DocScrutinizer05then that's rather a hybrid kernel20:23
ShadowJKmicrokernels dont exist outside of academia20:27
DocScrutinizer05err > It is capable of receiving text input through handwriting recognition<< never seen that in my N81020:31
Drathirhi all20:48
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Drathiri find proppably some of issue with package libicd-network-ipv6-scripts conflict and refusing to install i figt with this few hours and with forceing some how i installed the package and connection works... failed install broke ipv4 also...20:51
Drathirif someone have time to check this package will be great, but maybe it is possible that is only my issue...20:53
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DocScrutinizer05Drathir: sounds plausible22:20
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