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AndrewX192Got my new Nokia N900 today, working great02:27
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M4rtinK2AndrewX192: congratulation ! :)02:45
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AndrewX192M4rtinK2: yep, just as my old one won't charge at all03:29
AndrewX192I'm going to see if I can fix it, but I'm doubtful03:29
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M4rtinK2AndrewX192: then, good luck ! :)03:33
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M4rtinK2& good night :)03:33
AndrewX192M4rtinK2: night03:34
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kerioAndrewX192: well, now you *can* charge it09:24
kerioyour new n900 is also a decent bl-5j charger09:24
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Macerfreenas..kicking ass :)09:33
Macerjust received a bunch of replacement hardware for some miniitx atom based system i ordered... used it for 2 days and the zfs encryption maxed throughput to 15MB/s lol09:33
Macerwith an AMD A8 it is 115MB/s :)09:33
kerioDocScrutinizer05: my 1400mAh battery was calibrated by bq27k at a constant-ish 180mA draw to be 1600mAh09:36
keriohow can this be?09:36
kerioit has some 30-ish cycles on it09:37
DocScrutinizer05no problem09:37
keriodo batteries grow?09:37
DocScrutinizer05no, they usually don't09:37
keriothe 1400mAh measurement was also done at 180mA09:37
DocScrutinizer05but mAh is only one parameter09:37
DocScrutinizer05mWh is a more precise unit09:37
keriowhy don't we use that?09:38
DocScrutinizer05and cell chemistry varies a lot with temperature09:38
kerioright now, 5.2Wh09:38
kerioat 93%09:39
kerioDocScrutinizer05: hm, will my battery "shrink" in the winter then?09:39
keriodamn chemistry09:40
kerioi want a bl-5j-shaped capacitor09:40
DocScrutinizer05car batteries are known to "shrink" to maybe 10% of nominal capacity when it's very cold outside09:40
kerioreally? :o09:40
kerioshrink *to*?09:40
DocScrutinizer05a capacitor still has max 10% of a LiIon of sma e volume09:41
DocScrutinizer05yes, to 1/1009:41
DocScrutinizer05basically all chemical primary energy does09:41
DocScrutinizer05some cells are simply dead at -40°C, even when at 100%09:42
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Maceri think if you're somewhere where it is -40C you have bigger problems09:43
DocScrutinizer05if you'd say "if you are somewhere where it is +140° you have big problems anyway" I would agree ;-P09:44
DocScrutinizer05the good news: when you don't try to discharge a cell in cold hibernation, it usually recovers to full strength once it warms up again09:45
Macerwell.. id on't know... -40C/F is like.. siberian tundra cold09:46
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DocScrutinizer05btw every decent thermal management / Battery Management (Entity) takes care of undertemp as well as overtemp09:46
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Macerthere's not too many places on earth that get that cold heh09:47
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DocScrutinizer05Macer: easily cured by a nice heating and a few good clothes09:47
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Macerlol.. if you say so... -20 is bad enough... -40 is brutal :)09:48
DocScrutinizer05Macer: to return where this thread came from: a chemical cell doesn't switch to "off2 state when temp goes -39°->-40°C09:48
Maceralthough the 10th coldest place is still warmer ;)09:48
DocScrutinizer05car batteries are pretty useless at -20°C as well09:49
Macerno way09:49
Macerthat's 4F. car batteries run fine09:49
Macerit might take a bit more to start your car but still works fine09:50
DocScrutinizer05never wondered why your car battery has ~50x overcapacity for what it would actually need to start the engine?09:50
Macersure.. because of the cold ;)09:50
Macerbut i can't say in chicago where sometimes temps reach -20 or more.. that my car ever had a problem actually starting09:51
Macerbut i get the point heh09:51
Maceri dug up my su8w09:51
Maceri am going to connect it to my n900 soon09:51
Macerbut the thing is a jinx. every time i do it my modem stops or a usb ports falls off :-/09:52
DocScrutinizer05quite possible. maybe a physical causality09:52
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DocScrutinizer05applying excessive force to USB can not only make the receptacle come off PCB, it also may bend PCB to the point where modem chip solder joints snap open09:53
DocScrutinizer05though my main suspect is excessive force applied to keyboard, and that in turn bends PCB and snaps modem chip off09:55
DocScrutinizer05N900 is *very* poor mechanical design regarding such issues09:57
DocScrutinizer05a good design had used a dedicated 2nd PCB for the keyboard09:58
DocScrutinizer05with steel enforcement beams09:59
DocScrutinizer05or at *very* least a lot of support posts from backside of case to bottoms side (opposite side of keyboard) of PCB10:00
DocScrutinizer05what you also can do as a PCB layouter is to mill a small gap around 3 of the 4 sides of the PCB location of a chip, but that's obviously not really an option when a kbd switch sits exactly on the opposite side of the PCB10:02
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DocScrutinizer05a pity that my ambitions for Hollywood never panned out:
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DocScrutinizer05(if I knew how to reproduce this oddity, I'd sell the progarm on OVI as "psychedelic lightshow")10:49
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DocScrutinizer05(and no, I have *no* idea what's that music my N900 played, probably sth somebody gave to me in the pub)10:51
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DocScrutinizer05LOL!  why you should be vary to use those allegedly smart and free new services14:01
DocScrutinizer05gmail? dafaq!14:02
divVerenthaha... so?14:08
divVerentit's not like other companies are better there14:08
divVerentI am pretty sure anyone can disable my email account anywhere14:09
divVerentsimply by bruteforcing it14:09
divVerentmost providers disable account after $ALOT failures14:10
divVerentdata stored in the cloud is not your data. Keep at least a copy on your own devices.14:10
jon_yDocScrutinizer05: google dumping gmail?14:12
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DocScrutinizer05this chick edited a spreadsheet on google documents or whatever, with customer account data ans passwords, and google detected that and locked her complete google account. SERVES HER RIGHT! ;-P14:14
DocScrutinizer05except for googling, I don't touch any google service with a 10ft-pole14:14
jon_yDocScrutinizer05: what do you use for MX DNS addresses?14:15
DocScrutinizer05and storing or even editing highly sensitive data in the cloud is as braindamaged as it gets14:15
DocScrutinizer05jon_y: ~6 different, none of them being google14:15
jon_ywhat services do you use?14:16
jon_yfor MX14:16
jon_yotherwise, you can't get mail14:16
DocScrutinizer05central services ;-D14:16
jon_ymy only locked in data is gmail, but I have a pop3 copy locally of all the mails14:17
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jon_yDocScrutinizer05: no MX address for you?14:18
jon_yhmm ok14:19
jon_ygiving it a look14:19
DocScrutinizer05another few are directly to my own server, then there's a and a account14:20
jon_yold cert is old14:20
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DocScrutinizer05so what?14:20
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jon_yDocScrutinizer05: I mean the SSL cert14:21
DocScrutinizer05I know14:21
DocScrutinizer05still, so what?14:21
jon_ywhich of them has gratis MX redirectors?14:21
jon_yso I can replace my gmail account with a local mail server14:22
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DocScrutinizer05probably none14:23
VeggenI use gmail purely as a transport mechanism between google systems.14:24
Veggenbut I'm old-fashioned and prefer running my own mailserver ;)14:24
jon_yit is strange why A type address redirectors is so easy to find14:24
jon_yeg no-ip14:24
jon_yVeggen: what MX address redirector do you use?14:25
jon_yheh, I'd like an AAAA with that14:25
Veggenjon_y: I have a virtual server in the cloud. I'm of course still a hostage to the terms of service of the vendor, but I'm at least a bit more in control.14:25
VeggenDNS-hosting is a free service that comes with the server in the cloud, and I can update my zones as I like.14:26
VeggenI use Linode (
Veggenand yes,of course I do a backup out of the cloud (home)14:27
jon_yeh cloud again?14:27
DocScrutinizer050.29EUR / month14:27
DocScrutinizer05cheaper than the "free" services like google and whatnot14:27
jon_yproblem is, my ISP sucks connection wise14:28
jon_yrandom disconnects14:28
Veggenjon_y: I gave up on running my own server at home.14:29
VeggenLow WAF :)14:29
DocScrutinizer05that's why I have several hosted servers14:29
jon_yso, self hosting is not perfect gmail replacement14:29
jon_yVeggen: WAF?14:29
jon_yDocScrutinizer05: rotated MX?14:29
VeggenWife/Woman Acceptance Factor.14:29
jon_ywife didn't like all the cables on the floor? :)14:30
Veggen..and the noise and the fact that it couldn't be turned completely off.14:30
jon_y*now zis is a computer!!14:30
DocScrutinizer05thought as much :-P14:31
jon_yafter she shows you her cellphone :)14:31
jon_yironsky :)14:31
VeggenOh, she's a computer person herself, but she likes computers that can be turned off at home, thanks!14:31
jon_yoh man, I have no idea what will happen if I do get married14:31
jon_ymy study room desk is full of wires, computer is on 24/714:32
VeggenNow, I do have a fan-less and no-noise NAS at home, though. Which among other things, take backup of my server in the cloud :)14:32
jon_yexposed dekstop systems14:32
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jon_ymultiple monitors next to each other14:32
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DocScrutinizer05honestly, for as little as 10EUR/month you get an all-inclusive package like
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Veggenthere's gonna be a bit more possibility for that. Daughter of my GF (we're not married) moved out, so now we have an extra room.14:33
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jon_yVeggen: how do I preserve my hacker space? :)14:35
DocScrutinizer05I rather pay somebody for providing a vserver to me, rather than trusing in that google/cloud/webservices shit14:35
Veggenjon_y: Well. Depends whether you can confine it to a separate room which have a door that can be closed.14:36
jon_yyeah, it is a study room14:36
DocScrutinizer05in a proper deal, i know what I'm paying for, in which currency, and I have my customer rights14:36
jon_ythere is still a cable to the TV room14:36
jon_yfor the raspberry Pi14:36
Veggenjon_y: There's more possibilities to be able to keep your stuff there. Living or sleeping room, there was no way :)14:36
DocScrutinizer05with google and the like, I know I'm paying with my attention as they always try to mometize me on rather sneaky levels14:37
Veggenraspberry pi is small and does not make noise. The cable might need to be pretty.14:37
jon_yVeggen: it's on the floor, house has no builtin LAN14:37
DocScrutinizer05and no rights whatsoever, see above link14:37
jon_yI guess I can put it up when I want to watch TV :)14:38
jon_yDocScrutinizer05: internet feudalism!14:38
DocScrutinizer05all those fools who think internet is the new paradise where everything is for free14:38
VeggenDS: yah, I pay too., which seems to be a bit more expensive than yours, but they provide good service.14:38
DocScrutinizer05heck NO, nothing ever is for free14:38
VeggenAlways when remeber: When a product is free, then you are the real product!14:38
jon_yexchange rate can be a bummer if you want quality products14:39
jon_yalso, charges on foreign bank transfers14:41
jon_ythey milk you dry on all the mini charges14:42
jon_yended up apathetic after calculating the charges14:42
DocScrutinizer05well, we have a hetzner server you probably know very well about, and it's paid from Singapore by paypal14:43
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DocScrutinizer055 bucks/mo14:44
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DocScrutinizer05(that's not what skeiron runs on)14:44
jon_ydoes paypal make any weird charges?14:45
DocScrutinizer05a reasonable (still high) ~5%14:45
DocScrutinizer05might be higher for low amounts14:46
jon_yhmm, maybe I can bypass local credit card companies14:46
DocScrutinizer05look at
DocScrutinizer05 actually14:47
jon_ynormally, what kind of bandwidth does a mail server require?14:48
jon_yhmm ok14:49
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DocScrutinizer05you probably can't beat that:
jon_yI guess so, I don't ever get 100GB of mails :)14:53
jon_yuh 10GB14:53
DocScrutinizer05even that is hard to come any near, by email14:54
DocScrutinizer05you'd need 1000 mails of 10MB each14:55
DocScrutinizer05well, 500, since you would fetch them too14:55
jon_yI do get more mails than that a month, but not off that size14:55
DocScrutinizer05when somebody sends me email of 10+MB, he usually gets killed by me ;-P14:56
jon_ythanks for the suggestion, I'll keep this provider14:56
DocScrutinizer05hetzner is *very* reliable14:57
jon_ybtw, speaking of free stuff14:57
DocScrutinizer05all my hetzner boxes have uptimes of ~2 years, if it wasn't for the occasional kernel upgrade14:58
jon_yI had an ad flyer about free 0 commitment cellphone plans14:58
jon_yis there anything fishy about it?14:58
DocScrutinizer05see above14:59
DocScrutinizer05if a product is for free...14:59
jon_ythey listen to your conversation?14:59
jon_yheh, I was thinking of using it as a v33 modem :)14:59
DocScrutinizer05or charge you insane minutes after you sued up the "unlimited" 10 minutes per month15:00
jon_yprobabky, I might want to use it for incoming calls only15:00
* jon_y needs to read fine print15:00
DocScrutinizer05and you can almost bet on any such niche case usage like modem will be impossible15:01
jon_ycompressed/distorted audio?15:01
DocScrutinizer05who knows15:01
DocScrutinizer05you can bet on on point: after adding in *all* the hidden cost, that offer is no cheaper than any other you can find15:02
DocScrutinizer05after all they wanna make money, not you happy15:02
Luke-Jranyone for a quick meetup in Chicago?15:02
jon_ywell, local providers are starting to follow US style locked cell phones15:03
jon_yone of my colleagues tell me you end up paying 2.5 times the phone15:03
jon_yI make for a terrible customer with my no frills cheap nokia without data plans15:04
DocScrutinizer05there been times when carriers sold subsidized simlocked phones quite cheap, since they didn't make their money on the phone but on your minutes plan15:05
DocScrutinizer05those times are gone mostly15:05
jon_yI pay about 7 euros a month commitment, it's the cheapest plan I can find15:05
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DocScrutinizer05I use a prepaid SIM, plus my own phones. ever did15:05
DocScrutinizer05ever been cheaper than any contract15:06
jon_yI wanted a prepaid too, but it's far from anonymous here15:06
jon_yin b4 terrorism15:06
jon_yincreased scrutiny15:06
DocScrutinizer05sure, USA enforced this worldwide15:07
DocScrutinizer05you can cheat on it here (Germany)15:07
DocScrutinizer05when I bought my SIM (2009) they didn't want anything from me. 2 or 3 years later they threatened to lock my account when I not finally show my passport in a O2 shop15:08
DocScrutinizer05**per SMS**15:09
jon_ywhy a passport?15:09
DocScrutinizer05well, any Identity paper15:09
jon_yoh ok15:09
DocScrutinizer05for me that's == passport. I don't need anything else15:10
jaskadeine papieren, bitte?15:10
DocScrutinizer05yep, about15:10
jaskai think in some central/western european countries you have to carry id with you.15:10
jon_ysounds like Stasi15:10
DocScrutinizer05meanwhile you can buy the prepaid SIM in supermarket, and register online. Of course you can use whatever data you can get hold of, to register ;-P15:11
jon_yjaska: I thought the western ones a were a bit more open?15:11
jon_yDocScrutinizer05: do they verify?15:11
DocScrutinizer05here in Germany it's purported that you always need ID with you, but that's an urban legend produced by police. There is no such law15:12
DocScrutinizer05jon_y: they do, but not in any reasonable way15:12
DocScrutinizer05you just need to know the data of your mayor or whatever15:13
DocScrutinizer05maybe incl passport number15:13
jon_yyour mayor?15:13
jon_ytown mayor?15:13
DocScrutinizer05sure, or your neighbour15:13
jon_yoh I see15:13
jaskahere the police can get irritated if you drive without carrying your license15:14
jon_ydo they disconnect you immediately if they find out?15:14
DocScrutinizer05that's another story15:14
DocScrutinizer05jon_y: probably15:14
DocScrutinizer05but they never will find out15:14
DocScrutinizer05since after registering, they have even less good measures to verify15:15
jon_yah I see15:15
DocScrutinizer05remember, it's prepaid15:15
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DocScrutinizer05it's also not forbidden to buy such SIM and immediately give it away (for money or gift) to arbitrary other persons15:16
DocScrutinizer05in the end who cares?15:16
DocScrutinizer05if police or other law enforcement wants to track down a phone, they don't need the registration15:17
jon_ycan the provider detect cloned sims?15:17
jon_yillegally cloned15:17
DocScrutinizer05no terrorist will use a registered phone after all anyway15:17
jon_ymaybe they use it once :)15:17
DocScrutinizer05yes, they definitely can and will detect15:17
jon_ystolen phone15:17
jon_ystolen 5 minutes ago15:17
ShadowJKLost internets this morning, upstream vanished. We called upstream, they sent 2 techhnicians to their POP, they found a third dude with cutting pliers in his hand. "Oops, wrong cable?" lol15:18
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jon_yoh wow, emacs has an irc client15:20
DocScrutinizer05a friend of mine worked for telecom, long time ago, when exchanges worked with those huge relays ( ) He was about to fix some customer's line, and cut a cable, and thought "dude, something changed!". 2s later he realized that suddenly the whole large exchange room went quiet15:21
ShadowJKjon_y; emacs has everything15:23
jon_ydoes it run vi? :)15:23
jon_yi guess it does15:23
DocScrutinizer05afaik it has a vi-mode15:23
ShadowJKsilence of death :)15:24
DocScrutinizer05the term"eighthundred megabytes and constantly swapping" has a reason ;-)15:24
* ShadowJK rebooted entire stack of switches for a town a couple of weeks ago15:25
jaskaemacs hasnt kept up with the bloating tho15:25
jon_yhasn't kept up?15:25
jaskabrowsers, operating systems are getting ahead of it.15:25
ShadowJKThe sound of it all stopping, and then fear of whether it'd come back up :s15:25
DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: switches?15:25
jon_yoh, chrome is supposed to be an OS now15:25
DocScrutinizer05like, hubs?15:26
ShadowJKDocScrutinizer05; yes, except smarter than hubs15:26
jon_yShadowJK: why? was the internet slow? :)15:26
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DocScrutinizer05I heard they have pretty odd internet structures in some easern Eu countries15:27
ShadowJKjon_y; they were all behaving like in a broadcast storm / smurf attack15:27
DocScrutinizer05in Moscow there's allegedly a router on every attic15:27
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jon_yDocScrutinizer05: what does that mean? NAT everywhere?15:28
DocScrutinizer05and buildings connected via free air cables15:28
DocScrutinizer05or sth like that15:28
jon_ysmurf attack, that's some new word I learned today :)15:28
ShadowJKI suggested we nat every customer too15:28
jon_yShadowJK: how do I get unNATed internet?15:29
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jon_ypay more $$$?15:29
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jon_yinternet drivers license?15:30
ShadowJKjon_y; more of a blunt hammer solution to random customers with random crap equipment that put out packets of doom15:30
jon_yah ok, jumbo packets?15:30
ShadowJKIt might actually be an interaction between two or more customer devices, and our upstream15:31
jon_yI wonder if that's the same issue with DSL concentrators15:31
ShadowJKBut like, the entire OS and bootloader (!) has sometimes been wiped from random switches15:31
jon_ythat some hack15:32
ShadowJKbuggy firmware I think15:32
ShadowJKmanufacturer is like "lalalala"15:32
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jon_ycrashing DSL routers are probably the same too15:33
* DocScrutinizer05 ponders to change his tmo "avatar" to the green guy with the glasses ;-P15:33
jon_yever since I switched it to bridge mode, it hasn't crashed, ever15:34
ShadowJKBut they did scrutinize config on all the switches.. 50-80 of them..15:34
jon_yDocScrutinizer05: is that how you knock someone off the internet too? :)15:35
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DocScrutinizer05sure, one possible way15:36
jon_y"Google Demands Microsoft Pull YouTube App For WP8"15:36
jon_yoh haha15:36
DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: how about joining maemo CERT?15:38
ShadowJKwhat is that15:38
DocScrutinizer05well, that's the few guys in techstaff that care about server outages etc15:39
DocScrutinizer05currently xes, warfare, me15:39
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DocScrutinizer05or, simply put,
DocScrutinizer05and a few more non-public pages15:40
DocScrutinizer05like icinga/nagios15:41
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samn900hey why my n900 looses SIM signals while in other phones never happened?16:22
DocScrutinizer05for one the GSM/UMTS antenna is positioned on the right hand (landscape orientation) small side of case, so it gets quite effectively covered when you hold the device with both hands for typing on kbd16:24
jon_yyour n900 sim holder is faulty?16:24
DocScrutinizer05this would result in SIM not present, not in Signal lost16:24
jon_yalso, I noticed 3G signals have better strength than 2G at times16:24
DocScrutinizer05at times not, though16:24
jon_ynormally, it falls back to 2G on random signal fades16:25
DocScrutinizer05for my cell here this changed drastically a year or so ago16:25
jon_yand stays 2G since the signal is poor16:25
jon_yforcing it to 3G gives good signal again16:25
jon_yyeah, weird, but it happens16:26
DocScrutinizer05well, it should roam back to 3G after a few minutes16:26
jon_yI was in a rural-ish area16:26
jon_ysingle 3G tower to cover several km16:26
DocScrutinizer05if it doesn't, then your carrier has a silly config for his network16:26
jon_yyeah, they probably are16:27
jon_yI do occasionally get 2.5G16:27
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jon_yvery rarely16:27
sammycan you explain16:27
sammyI missed16:27
DocScrutinizer05no, not really16:27
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jon_ysammy: try switching to 2G/3G mode and see if it helps16:28
Guest37321the telepathy client for irc on my n900 has not visualized all16:28
Guest37321I could not read everything16:28
Guest37321copy and paste16:28
jon_yuse irssi on the n900, best irc client :)16:29
Guest37321now I have read all16:30
DocScrutinizer05xchat forever16:30
DocScrutinizer05but never without my customizations:16:31
Guest37321however... I have load applet16:31
infobotit has been said that jrxchat is
jon_yDocScrutinizer05: does xchat allow juvenile pranks and scripts? :)16:31
Guest37321and on load applet I see I have set 3G+GSM16:31
jon_ytry force it to one16:32
Guest37321without GSM?16:32
DocScrutinizer05load applet?16:32
Guest37321my only options here are 3G+GSM and 3G and 2G16:32
jon_ywell, try it16:33
jon_yDocScrutinizer05: script16:33
Guest37321I have charged all applets not only load applet16:33
jon_ytry set to 3G16:33
Guest37321I can access to screen light level as volume level as well16:34
jon_yor set to 2G16:34
Guest37321I have set 3G16:34
Guest37321I have also screencast and screenshot applet16:34
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DocScrutinizer05the words, their meaning obscure is16:34
Guest37321battery advanced status16:34
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Guest37321and ssh status16:34
jon_yso, why are you telling us about your applets?16:34
Guest37321for fun16:35
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jon_yannoy your irc friends16:35
DocScrutinizer05I odn"t nerd anY such stoobit skript for dat!!1!!16:39
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DocScrutinizer05Guest37321: to compare to any other phone, you first need to swap your actualy SIM between phones, since another SIM may result in different RF behaviour of the mobile16:42
DocScrutinizer05particularly different brand or type SIM ( or rather, contract / config on that SIM) may cause usage of even completely different bands etc, which wouldn't be a valid compare16:44
Guest37321no DocScrutinizer05 I don't need to make all that work of swap16:47
Guest37321I already know that is because of n90016:47
Guest37321but I don't aim to blame you or n90016:48
Guest37321I want to configure well my n900 in order of having my SIM signal good as should be always16:48
DocScrutinizer05well, then sorry I dunno how to answer your question16:49
Guest37321I have already had and answer and I am already trying with joh_y advice16:49
Guest37321as he told me I should select just 3G or 2G16:50
Guest37321and I mixed this information at yours since you said that for the one GSM/UMTS and I mixed this to jon_y who said that I have to choose or 2G or 3G16:51
Guest37321well all this is an answer for sure16:52
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Guest37321also the keyboard mode and hand cover the antenna cool information...16:53
Guest37321so thank you... and be more gentle with your self16:53
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DocScrutinizer05divVerent: you tested your extras-account?17:46
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divVerentDocScrutinizer05: not yet, as I probably will need the SDK for that... and the real computer for that19:27
divVerentbut I was told it has been created, so I for now assume it has been19:27
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DocScrutinizer05well, that's not as simple to answer a question19:29
DocScrutinizer05I just changed your shell on drop from to svngitsh.pl19:29
DocScrutinizer05and :-O  who told you it been created?19:29
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DocScrutinizer05to me it looks like **something** created that account on drop.m.o not earlier than May 15 19:26 UTC19:32
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infobotsomebody said usbfix was - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater)21:23
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packbarthey guys. I am about to solder a new USB port onto my N900. But that second board is scary. How to properly remove that camera board?22:01
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packbarton to the soldering part22:19
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DocScrutinizer51peel it off22:27
DocScrutinizer51it's doublesided sticky22:27
DocScrutinizer51take care about the flex cable22:28
DocScrutinizer51flex PCB rather22:28
DocScrutinizer51you can't replace it22:28
DocScrutinizer51also don't forget to stck some thick tape on the camre lens22:29
DocScrutinizer51or paper, carton, wjatever22:29
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DocScrutinizer51packbart: you also might find my scans of bare PCB (without components) useful22:42
DocScrutinizer51it nicely shows the nine solder pads where USB is soldered to PVB22:42
DocScrutinizer51N900exploded or sth like that22:44
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