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| Macer | wow | 00:21 |
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| Macer | tmobile is totally broken | 00:21 |
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| Macer | Stack Trace: | 00:22 |
| Macer | [SocketException (0x2746): An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host] System.Net.Sockets.NetworkStream.Read(Byte[] buffer, Int32 offset, Int32 size) +232 | 00:22 |
| Macer | heh | 00:22 |
| Macer | maybe that explains why their service is shit today too? | 00:22 |
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| Macer | what fking company works on their site on a saturday? | 00:23 |
| Macer | wtf this tmobile service is ridiculous today | 00:27 |
| Macer | it was fine for 2 months and now it is awful today | 00:27 |
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| Macer | wth | 00:44 |
| Macer | let me try my e7 out | 00:44 |
| Macer | maybe it's the n900 | 00:44 |
| Macer | another lemon? lol | 00:44 |
| Macer | i literally have 0 signal | 00:46 |
| Macer | and wehre i am i usually had a signal just fine | 00:46 |
| Macer | wth? | 00:46 |
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| nox- | maybe the tower is just down i.e. in maintainance? | 00:51 |
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| Macer | i'm online chatting with the tech guy | 01:04 |
| Macer | and..... | 01:04 |
| Macer | Oh, okay. Please feel free to approach me once it is switched Off so I can start | 01:04 |
| Macer | outsourcing fail | 01:04 |
| Macer | i have "approached" him now that it is off :) | 01:04 |
| Macer | lmfao | 01:05 |
| Macer | his name is Michael G. :) | 01:05 |
| Macer | $10 says G stands for Patel | 01:05 |
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| Macer | nox-: that's what i asked. you would think this would be easy to figure out | 01:06 |
| Macer | but he has me doing these YES/NO steps that the computer has him doing | 01:07 |
| nox- | :/ | 01:07 |
| nox- | maybe he doesnt know which tower that would be... | 01:08 |
| Macer | dude.. he should have a giant map at his fingertips :) | 01:10 |
| Macer | lol | 01:10 |
| Macer | and he asked for my address | 01:10 |
| Macer | so i guess all i can do is wait | 01:10 |
| Macer | I am so sorry for the great inconvenience this has caused you, Gilbert | 01:10 |
| Macer | heh | 01:10 |
| Macer | ah well. what can you do :) | 01:11 |
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| Macer | ok | 01:30 |
| Macer | there is no way t-mobile does "maintenance" in the middle of a saturday lol | 01:30 |
| Macer | that's insane | 01:30 |
| Macer | i am completely losing my signal | 01:31 |
| nox- | well maybe its not _planned_ "maintenance" then... | 01:32 |
| nox- | :P | 01:32 |
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| Macer | yeah | 01:40 |
| Macer | heh | 01:40 |
| Macer | their network was hax0red by verizon! for them trying to be different !! | 01:40 |
| Macer | :) | 01:40 |
| Macer | he said something about rolling out lte? | 01:40 |
| Macer | lies i'm sure | 01:40 |
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| Sc0rpius | I need a fast browser | 06:46 |
| Sc0rpius | that renders pages as mobile pages not desktop pages like microb | 06:46 |
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| Sc0rpius | fennec renders great too bad it looks like it is the slowest browser ever created in the history of this and several other universe if you agree on string theory | 07:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | err, rendering like mobile pages? | 07:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I always thought that all browsers render more or less the same way, and it's mainly the server that delivers specially formatted "mobile" pages for certain browser identifications | 07:48 |
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| rikanee | Sc0rpius: Opera? | 08:42 |
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| Sc0rpius | DocScrutinizer05, actually you are right, but for microb to do that I would have to install an add-on to change the user-agent to something that most servers would understand as a mobile | 10:32 |
| Sc0rpius | I tried Opera but it closes (segmentation fault?) on most pages, even on Facebook (that's absurd). | 10:34 |
| Sc0rpius | fennec is perfect, but it's so slow it's unusable | 10:34 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | ScOrpius: Opera 11 ? | 10:43 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Or if thumb use fennec-thumb? | 10:44 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Doh Sc0rpius ^^^ | 10:45 |
| Sc0rpius | I'm using fennec-thumb yeah | 10:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Opera 12 has been known to segfault intermittantly but I have had no trouble with Opera 11. fennec-thumb should be useable. | 10:51 |
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| kerio | Woody14619: hmm, "unless there is a serious volunteer effort to calculate everyone's karma by hand, we will treat all maemo.org accounts older than 3 months as eligible for this election only" | 11:09 |
| kerio | is that to vote, or to be elected? | 11:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | afaik to vote | 11:10 |
| kerio | aww :( | 11:11 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | nominees will be calculated by hand me thinks. | 11:13 |
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| kerum | hey | 14:29 |
| kerum | I'm trying to install json 1.7.7 on n900 | 14:30 |
| kerum | Gem::Installer::ExtensionBuildError: ERROR: Failed to build gem native extension | 14:31 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Yay, just got my vote token. I see the wiki pages I did have been included. | 14:31 |
| kerum | /usr/bin/ruby1.8 extconf.rb | 14:31 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Shame the links are broken, lol | 14:31 |
| kerum | extconf.rb:1:in require : no such file to load -- mkmf (LoadError) | 14:32 |
| kerum | can anyone help me? | 14:32 |
| kerum | i get that when i do | 14:32 |
| kerum | gem install json -v '1.7.7' | 14:33 |
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| grummund | Hi all, i installed the "Wifi Channel 12 and 13 enabler" package but still my router on ch12 does not show up, any ideas? | 17:54 |
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| Drathir | grummund: what network type using your router b/g/n? | 18:00 |
| grummund | i have it set to 11g only | 18:01 |
| grummund | options are 11b/11g/Superg or a combination thereof. | 18:02 |
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| grummund | both Linux box and WinXp laptop are able to connect oh Ch12. | 18:03 |
| grummund | this is with a n900 btw. | 18:04 |
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| Macer | hm | 18:10 |
| Macer | fmobi got around to fixing their facebook api but now like half the things don't work | 18:10 |
| Macer | simple things like going to your posts via notifications lol | 18:10 |
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| Drathir | grummund: you have airodump-ng installed? | 18:15 |
| grummund | Drathir: no, should i? | 18:16 |
| Macer | omg you have got to be kidding me | 18:16 |
| Macer | it worked for an hour then went back to error 403? | 18:16 |
| Drathir | Macer: bitlbee also dont work with oauth fb revoked api keys proppably... :/ | 18:16 |
| Macer | Drathir: yeah it's insane | 18:16 |
| Macer | it was just working. i used it for like 10-20 minutes then the keys were revoked? | 18:17 |
| Macer | facebook is a bitch | 18:17 |
| Apic | *nod* | 18:17 |
| Drathir | grummund: no yyou shouldnt i ask if you have you can check what channels phone can see... | 18:17 |
| grummund | Drathir: using wifieye i see other networks | 18:18 |
| grummund | Drathir: also the n900 will connect fine with the router set to Ch11 | 18:18 |
| Drathir | grummund: check if network isnt hidden and have mac filtering... | 18:18 |
| grummund | it's not hidden | 18:18 |
| grummund | the n900 will see it and connect on Ch11 | 18:19 |
| Drathir | Macer: bitlbee site say that hey revoked... :/ | 18:19 |
| Drathir | they* | 18:19 |
| grummund | other PCs (both Win & Linux) can connect on Ch12 | 18:19 |
| Drathir | fb hacve strange implementation of xmpp :/ | 18:19 |
| grummund | i may just revert the router to Ch11 to allow the n900 to be used. | 18:20 |
| Drathir | Macer: if working maybe servers issue only... | 18:20 |
| Macer | it was working fine | 18:20 |
| Drathir | grummund: that looks like patch not working :/ | 18:21 |
| Macer | then the api returned 403 forbidden | 18:21 |
| Macer | so it's probably fb being little bitches to the 3rd party apps | 18:21 |
| Macer | just so people are forced to use their ugly fb garbage | 18:21 |
| Macer | does anybody know a good cover for my n900 to get? i don't care about bulk just protection | 18:21 |
| Macer | i got a decent one but now one of the cheap chinese tabs seems to have worn | 18:22 |
| Macer | and the front cover doesn't stick as well :-/ | 18:22 |
| Drathir | Macer: try to connect without password-oauth only with mnormal password ? | 18:22 |
| grummund | Macer: i had one off amazon for 99p - works great. | 18:22 |
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| Macer | Drathir: i don't know how to do that with fb? i can login just fine on a pc | 18:24 |
| Macer | heh | 18:24 |
| Macer | fmobi requires oauth | 18:25 |
| Macer | grummund: so did i.. that is the one that isn't working :-/ | 18:25 |
| Macer | the little plastic tab broke off in one of the corners | 18:25 |
| Macer | so the front falls off | 18:25 |
| Drathir | Macer: try simple xmpp server chat.facebook.com nick username and with password | 18:26 |
| Drathir | have you any xmpp client? | 18:27 |
| grummund | Macer: mine gets carried around in a backpack so not too much abuse | 18:27 |
| Macer | Drathir: that works fine | 18:27 |
| Macer | i am using it with the n900 | 18:27 |
| grummund | i can lookup the amazon link if you wnat though | 18:27 |
| Macer | i just chatted with someone ;) | 18:27 |
| Macer | heh.. yeah well.. i try not to use mine much but i would still like the protection | 18:27 |
| Macer | i don't care much about the bulk of it | 18:28 |
| Macer | http://www.amazon.com/Amzer-Simple-Casewith-Protector-Rubberized/dp/B002XZM0V2/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1366558016&sr=8-17&keywords=Nokia+N900 | 18:28 |
| Drathir | Macer: with client you using for that inside n900? | 18:28 |
| grummund | Macer: this one here is a mock leather wallet type | 18:29 |
| Drathir | in short which n900 apps you using to connect? | 18:29 |
| Macer | http://www.amazon.com/Amzer-Simple-Casewith-Protector-Rubberized/product-reviews/B002XZM0V2/ref=dp_db_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1 | 18:30 |
| Macer | oops | 18:30 |
| Macer | that is one of them | 18:31 |
| Macer | Drathir: i'm using fmobi to connect to fb | 18:31 |
| Macer | as well as telepathy to connect to the fb chat | 18:31 |
| Macer | i tried using the browser but it sucks for the "new and improved" fb | 18:31 |
| Macer | the cpu gets maxed out and can't handle the page | 18:31 |
| Macer | i bet that $11 amzer is just as bad as the one i got for $1 heh | 18:32 |
| Macer | too bad finding an otterbox would be next to impossible | 18:32 |
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| Macer | The product arrived only with the back piece in the package. I read another review with the same problem, where are the front pieces (are you selling them separated?) | 18:33 |
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| Macer | lol | 18:33 |
| rikanee | Macer: the plain old non-HTML5 Facebook for mobile should still be there for browsers that suck. | 18:35 |
| grummund | Macer: that's what i have - http://www.amazon.co.uk/BLACK-WALLET-LEATHER-CASE-NOKIA/dp/B0038LNLS6 | 18:36 |
| rikanee | I forgot what the URL was, so I'll have to figure out where my PSP was. | 18:36 |
| Macer | rikanee: where? | 18:36 |
| Macer | heh | 18:36 |
| Macer | touch.facebook.com didn't work | 18:36 |
| Macer | half the stuff wouldn't work in microb | 18:36 |
| Macer | like... the menu :) | 18:36 |
| rikanee | (in all seriousness though, the transition animations Facebook added to the HTML5 mobile site totally killed performance on notWebkit) | 18:37 |
| grummund | http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41c9t5YJQvL.jpg | 18:37 |
| grummund | http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Jx-WC%2BtBL.jpg | 18:37 |
| grummund | Macer: ^^ | 18:38 |
| Macer | http://www.amazon.com/Amzer-Rubberized-Crystal-Nokia-plastic/dp/B0059BUSFW/ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A21C4U5X700J66 | 18:38 |
| Macer | grummund: oh lol | 18:38 |
| Macer | i was looking for something that didn't require me taking the n900 out of it | 18:38 |
| Macer | a protector more than a case... like the one i just pasted | 18:38 |
| Macer | where the kb will slide open | 18:38 |
| grummund | yeah it does that | 18:39 |
| grummund | http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41vdV9Z3VhL._SL500_.jpg | 18:39 |
| Macer | yeah i guess but it requires an unsnap, flip back. and keyboard flip heh | 18:40 |
| Macer | that seems like a lot of work ;) | 18:40 |
| Macer | i just want something simple that will protect the edges | 18:40 |
| Drathir | Macer: touch.facebook.com works not bad inside opera... | 18:40 |
| grummund | Macer: get an iphone then :p | 18:41 |
| Macer | http://www.amazon.com/OtterBox-Commuter-Case-Nokia-E7/dp/B004M8R9YG/ref=sr_1_14?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1366558876&sr=1-14&keywords=nokia+e7+case | 18:41 |
| Macer | :'( | 18:42 |
| Macer | RIP otterbox stuff | 18:42 |
| Macer | http://www.amazon.com/Perforated-Mesh-Back-Cover-Nokia/dp/B005NYBT9Y/ref=sr_1_21?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1366558929&sr=1-21&keywords=nokia+e7+case | 18:44 |
| Macer | i can't find anything like that for my e7 either | 18:45 |
| Macer | wtf | 18:45 |
| Drathir | Macer: gravity... | 18:45 |
| Macer | Drathir: i meant a case for my e7 ;) | 18:46 |
| Macer | gravity is pretty awesome tho | 18:46 |
| Macer | but i'm so worried that fb is going to screw over the little guy that i wouldn't buy it | 18:46 |
| Macer | next time i'm just pirating phone apps until i see them working... it was $2 and i never got my money's worth | 18:47 |
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| Drathir | Macer: nothing faster and less network usage i dont find on symbian... gravity was great... | 18:47 |
| Drathir | Macer: fmobi isnt free app? | 18:48 |
| Macer | no | 18:53 |
| Macer | you buy it on the ovi store | 18:53 |
| Macer | http://www.amazon.com/BoxWave-Nokia-N900-AluArmor-Jacket/dp/B003CJ4ZFM/ref=sr_1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1366559625&sr=1-2&keywords=n900+case | 18:54 |
| Macer | i wonder if that squeaked when you opened it lol | 18:54 |
| Macer | http://www.amazon.com/OtterBox-Nokia-N900-Commuter-Case/dp/B003FVQAHI/ref=sr_1_7?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1366559667&sr=1-7&keywords=n900+case | 18:54 |
| Macer | that's what i want :-/ i can't find it even on ebay | 18:54 |
| Macer | i guess it's just impossible to find decent covers for old devices | 18:55 |
| Macer | guess i'll do like you said and just get a leather case type one for it | 18:56 |
| Drathir | Macer: i want to test that app but if must buy it is bad idea better using something open to much api key changes to buy app... | 18:56 |
| Macer | well.. talk to the dev ;) | 18:56 |
| Macer | lol... he obviously doesn'tn give a shit about making sure it works | 18:56 |
| Macer | maybe he'll give it up | 18:56 |
| Macer | but when you have chumps like me buying it | 18:56 |
| Macer | then why would you? heh | 18:57 |
| Macer | also... nobody seems to want to dev an open fb client even tho the api is supposed to be easy to use | 18:57 |
| luf | I uploaded latest version of tinysmb to extras-devel. If no bug report I'll promote it into extras-testing next week. | 18:57 |
| Macer | surprised someone out there hasn't made a functional open one yet hhe | 18:57 |
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| Drathir | bitlbee should work but someone proppably must genere new api keys nad compile app with new keys... :/ | 18:58 |
| Drathir | i run bitlbee inside alarm chroot and acces from n900 irssi ^^ | 18:59 |
| Macer | heh | 19:00 |
| Macer | well.. let me swap over to my e7 and see if it has the same issues | 19:00 |
| Drathir | luf: thanks a lot i must remember to update... | 19:00 |
| * Macer tosses his sim in | 19:02 | |
| Macer | yeah these n900 covers i got totally suck | 19:02 |
| Macer | cheaply made in china crap | 19:02 |
| Drathir | the most missing for me is bombus :,( | 19:02 |
| Drathir | from symbian... | 19:03 |
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| Macer | symbian is pretty awesome in its own way | 19:03 |
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| Macer | i can say at the very least it had far more commercial support than maemo :) | 19:03 |
| Drathir | anyway its a java app, but perfect - fast, stable, thin, low resource and smallest network usage fromm all app on the world... | 19:04 |
| Macer | i'm waiting for these ubuntu phones to come out | 19:04 |
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| Macer | and for some reason tmobile service in my area dropped badly | 19:05 |
| Macer | i was maxed out with bars until yesterday | 19:05 |
| Macer | it's like they completely turned a tower off | 19:05 |
| Macer | i'm trying symbian fmobi now | 19:06 |
| Drathir | e51 is great apps i find for all i need, only one bad thing is low memory/ram builit in, but with monitoring app i can open 10 apps in one time... | 19:06 |
| Drathir | Macer: have you orange carrier? | 19:07 |
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| Macer | tmobile prepaid | 19:09 |
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| Macer | the symbian fmobi works fine | 19:12 |
| Macer | so it was just the n900 that was abandoned lol | 19:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | HUH? | 19:13 |
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| Drathir | that little sad when all platforms with n900 dont updated with the same time... :/ | 19:27 |
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| Drathir | DocScrutinizer05: hi maybe you remember where n900 storage modules? i looking for names wifi normal and injection drivers... | 19:29 |
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| Macer | heh | 19:48 |
| Macer | ah well... i'm done buying my little toys ;) i'll wait until a good supported ubuntu phone comes out and get that and stick with the n900 and e7 until then | 19:48 |
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| Macer | i just don't want a phone that doesn't have a qwerty | 19:49 |
| Macer | and i sure don't want another conglomerate phone | 19:49 |
| Macer | 3 of the largest tech companies in the world are the only 3 making phone operating systems | 19:49 |
| Macer | how sad | 19:49 |
| Macer | oh... 4.. forgot the facebook phone.. but that's just android as well | 19:49 |
| Win7Mac_ | @Drathir: DocScrutinizer is not reading ATM | 19:50 |
| kerio | 3 of the largest tech companies in the world are the only 3 making phone operating systems, and none seem to be any good at it | 19:50 |
| Macer | kerio: lol! | 19:51 |
| Macer | they are good enough at it to make whatever people want ;) | 19:51 |
| Macer | i wonder if blackberry has taken the ad-road | 19:52 |
| Macer | what are the 2 blackberry phones that were released? | 19:53 |
| Macer | one was a z10 | 19:53 |
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| Macer | ah.. the q10 | 19:54 |
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| Macer | wonder if t-mobile will have a q10 | 19:56 |
| Macer | or if there is an unlocked ver that supports their freq | 19:56 |
| Macer | oh. i guess the q10 isnt even out yet | 19:57 |
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| Sc0rpius | sixwheeledbeast, thank you for the suggestion. I downgraded Opera to 11 and it works great, you're right. | 20:20 |
| Sc0rpius | and it's very sad about Opera 12, it's unusable. | 20:21 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Sc0rpius: serves you right for using devel version :P | 20:23 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Hopefully alopex will rock and be the amazing browser the N900 deserves. | 20:24 |
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| kerio | it's qt, isn't it | 20:30 |
| kerio | it's already worthless to me :< | 20:30 |
| Sc0rpius | you don't like Qt? | 20:31 |
| sixwheeledbeast | something to do with key mappings ... yawn :P | 20:32 |
| kerio | it doesn't honour my xkb layout, and it doesn't honour the settings regarding hold-to-sym | 20:33 |
| * Sc0rpius tests that, since he has a different layout as well | 20:34 | |
| Sc0rpius | oh you're right | 20:34 |
| Sc0rpius | so I think I can't type comments in Facebook with áéíóú | 20:36 |
| * Sc0rpius tries that | 20:36 | |
| Sc0rpius | but I can | 20:36 |
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| Sc0rpius | :) | 20:36 |
| Sc0rpius | so it's "honoring" my xkb layout | 20:36 |
| kerio | another thing, which is also something fennec does, is that fn-release-<key> doesn't work as fn+key | 20:37 |
| kerio | not sure if alopex also does that | 20:37 |
| Sc0rpius | fn, release, and then key works as well | 20:37 |
| Sc0rpius | everything I tried works in Opera 11 | 20:37 |
| kerio | it doesn't work in yappari for me, though | 20:38 |
| kerio | and that's qt *and* text-heavy | 20:38 |
| Sc0rpius | :( | 20:38 |
| kerio | it's one of the reasons i stopped using it | 20:38 |
| Sc0rpius | your xkb layout doesn't work in Yappari? | 20:38 |
| kerio | yep | 20:38 |
| Sc0rpius | that's very weird | 20:38 |
| kerio | another reason is, it's not a Conversations plugin | 20:38 |
| Sc0rpius | unless you use an IDE or something to type chinese | 20:38 |
| kerio | and a third reason is that whatsapp sucks balls | 20:39 |
| Sc0rpius | it can't be a Conversations plugin | 20:39 |
| kerio | sure it can, it's masqueraded xmpp | 20:39 |
| Sc0rpius | I agree on your 3rd reason, we should hack Line or Vibe and write a client for that | 20:39 |
| Drathir | Win7Mac_: thanks a lot for info i wait, and dont think go anywhere... | 20:39 |
| Sc0rpius | it can for text only, but you'd lose the multimedia and that's the ONLY reason to use WhatsApp | 20:39 |
| Sc0rpius | otherwise we would use GTalk and that's it | 20:39 |
| Sc0rpius | I *could* write a Conversations plugin for Whatsapp text-only but who would want that | 20:40 |
| Drathir | bb never dead in my opinion have great phones which must work dosent matter what happen... | 20:40 |
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| kerio | Sc0rpius: receiving multimedia would work | 20:41 |
| kerio | sending... eh, not so much | 20:41 |
| Sc0rpius | the first thing I tried was to write a conversations plugin | 20:41 |
| Sc0rpius | and when I saw the API, I knew it was pointless | 20:41 |
| * Drathir have 12.10.16 opera version... | 20:42 | |
| Sc0rpius | Drathir, I'd suggest you to downgrade | 20:42 |
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| Sc0rpius | but I wonder | 20:44 |
| Sc0rpius | if so many people has so many problems with introducing text in all Qt apps | 20:44 |
| Sc0rpius | why nobody has patched Qt for that, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be hard | 20:44 |
| kerio | patches welcome, at #maemo-ssu | 20:45 |
| Sc0rpius | since CSSU there has been newer Qt versions for the N900, some even fix several bugs that the stock firmware has | 20:45 |
| Sc0rpius | yeah, patch it :P | 20:45 |
| Sc0rpius | since I can't reproduce the problem I wouldn't know where to begin | 20:45 |
| freemangordon | Sc0rpius: hildon QT IM plugin is a mess | 20:46 |
| kerio | freemangordon: what happens if we disable it? | 20:46 |
| freemangordon | though it is in my queue | 20:46 |
| kerio | actually, wrong question | 20:46 |
| freemangordon | kerio: no text input in Qt apps? | 20:46 |
| kerio | how do i disable it? | 20:46 |
| kerio | wat | 20:46 |
| kerio | no text input at all? | 20:46 |
| freemangordon | I guess so | 20:46 |
| kerio | won't qt just use the standard xkb one? | 20:47 |
| Sc0rpius | I modified my keyboard layout to type áéíóú and ñ and it works in all my Qt apps, so I wonder why people do that doesn't work for them | 20:47 |
| freemangordon | iirc it is ifdeffed | 20:47 |
| freemangordon | kerio: ^^^ | 20:47 |
| kerio | i modified my keyboard layout to type àèéìòù<>[]{}%~` | 20:47 |
| Sc0rpius | ok | 20:47 |
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| kerio | and none of the shift+fn+<key> combinations work in qt | 20:48 |
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| Sc0rpius | hmmm I don't use shift+fn+key combinations | 20:48 |
| freemangordon | Sc0rpius: kerio: toldya, it is in my queue, I am the most affected (because of the cyrillic) | 20:48 |
| Sc0rpius | lemme see | 20:48 |
| kerio | ...where have you put those keys then? :O | 20:48 |
| Sc0rpius | all my Fn+key combinations work in Qt | 20:49 |
| Sc0rpius | I changed Fn + arrow keys for the dead keys | 20:49 |
| Sc0rpius | actually this is what I did | 20:49 |
| Sc0rpius | I changed , to dead key ' | 20:49 |
| kerio | those only make sense as home/end/pgup/pgdwn | 20:49 |
| Sc0rpius | FN <- is the , | 20:49 |
| Sc0rpius | Fn up is the dead key ` | 20:49 |
| Sc0rpius | fn -> is the ; | 20:49 |
| kerio | oh | 20:49 |
| kerio | pff | 20:49 |
| Sc0rpius | and Fn down is the dead key ~ | 20:50 |
| Sc0rpius | so I don't use shift ever. | 20:50 |
| Sc0rpius | and looks like the shift is the problem, since all my Fn+key combinations work in Qt | 20:50 |
| kerio | real men don't use combining accents! | 20:50 |
| Sc0rpius | what do you mean | 20:51 |
| kerio | and they're not even combining accents, they're a weird thing | 20:51 |
| Sc0rpius | so you have a key for á??? instead of typing ' first and then a ? | 20:51 |
| Sc0rpius | that's weird in this side of the planet!!! | 20:51 |
| Sc0rpius | all our keyboards are in english we don't have keys for áéíóú we have to type ' and then a to á | 20:52 |
| kerio | yeah well, other layouts exist | 20:52 |
| kerio | for fuck's sake, the italian keyboard has ç, ° and § as shift+key combinations | 20:52 |
| kerio | (the full-size one, i mean) | 20:52 |
| Sc0rpius | how do those shift+key combinations work? | 20:52 |
| Sc0rpius | if I type shift a I would get a capital A, so I wonder... | 20:53 |
| kerio | § is shift+ù | 20:53 |
| Sc0rpius | (I mean in real desktop keyboards) | 20:53 |
| kerio | ù is the last key before enter, in the home row | 20:53 |
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| kerio | hysterical raisins, yes | 20:53 |
| kerio | but that's what i'm used to | 20:53 |
| Sc0rpius | shift ù is Ù in my keyboard :) | 20:53 |
| Sc0rpius | and I type it as Shift (hold), ` and then u | 20:54 |
| kerio | capital letters are at the beginning of sentences in italian, or at the beginning of proper nouns | 20:54 |
| kerio | accents are at the end of certain words | 20:54 |
| kerio | :) | 20:54 |
| Sc0rpius | my native language is spanish so I know what you're talking about | 20:54 |
| kerio | there's hardly ever a reason to use accented capitals | 20:54 |
| kerio | unless shouting | 20:54 |
| Sc0rpius | heh | 20:55 |
| kerio | osx has alt+shift+certain keys for capitalized accented letters, however | 20:55 |
| Sc0rpius | but looks like it's only the shift-fn-key that is not working in Qt, that must be very easy to fix | 20:55 |
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| kerio | freemangordon: heard that? it's "very easy" | 20:56 |
| Sc0rpius | since Fn+key work... | 20:56 |
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| Sc0rpius | the thing is, I'm not sure if CSSU pulls the whole Qt source in their git repository... | 20:59 |
| Sc0rpius | well it's there | 21:02 |
| Drathir | Sc0rpius: why? | 21:04 |
| Sc0rpius | why what | 21:04 |
| freemangordon | Sc0rpius: for sure it is the whole source | 21:06 |
| Drathir | Sc0rpius: why downgrade? what is wrong with 12? | 21:06 |
| Sc0rpius | yes, I'm lookint at the QHildonInputContext_X11.cpp for the sake of curiosity | 21:06 |
| Sc0rpius | Drathir, Opera 12 in Maemo crashes all the time | 21:07 |
| Sc0rpius | *looking | 21:07 |
| freemangordon | Sc0rpius: not anymore, at least here it is rock stable | 21:07 |
| freemangordon | (opera) | 21:07 |
| Sc0rpius | well it was crashing so I downgraded to 11 and now it works fine | 21:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | It is better but it still had reports of the occasion segfault, must depend on the website. | 21:09 |
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| Sc0rpius | kerio when you press Shift + Fn + key in a Qt app do you get the Fn+key combination or the Shift+key combination? | 21:10 |
| Drathir | Sc0rpius: crashes when have to much ram usage what i saw... | 21:11 |
| Sc0rpius | with Opera 12, I start it, go to facebook, press Login, and it crashes. 100% of the time | 21:12 |
| Sc0rpius | with Opera 11 everything I've tried works fine | 21:12 |
| Drathir | Sc0rpius: could me seand a page adress and you using phone or pc UA? | 21:13 |
| Sc0rpius | I guess the phone user agent, since I haven't modified it | 21:13 |
| Sc0rpius | I use the default settings I haven't even seen the configuration page | 21:14 |
| Drathir | ok i will check... | 21:14 |
| Sc0rpius | I'm happy with Opera 11 though :) | 21:14 |
| Drathir | Sc0rpius: try delete opera and opera folder and install 22 again, maybe have a old broken configuration settings? | 21:15 |
| Sc0rpius | ok I can try that | 21:15 |
| Drathir | opera:about opera:config opera:cache | 21:16 |
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| Drathir | you can compare settings.... | 21:16 |
| Drathir | with booth... | 21:17 |
| jean_brat | hi.. i just brought a logitech bluetooth keyboard for Ipad.. and paierd it with N900.. Pair is successful | 21:18 |
| jean_brat | but however keys are not working | 21:18 |
| jean_brat | if i open text msg and start to type something | 21:19 |
| freemangordon | jean_brat: install extkbd | 21:19 |
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| Sc0rpius | well if I'm not mistaken, if you press Fn+Shift+key you'd get shift+key and pressing shift+fn+key you'd get fn+key in Qt apps. | 21:20 |
| freemangordon | Sc0rpius: yep, sounds like what exactly happens | 21:21 |
| Sc0rpius | but in the code looks like it's one or the other since it's | 21:21 |
| freemangordon | shift is somehow wrongly recognized | 21:22 |
| Sc0rpius | if (qtkeycode == Qt::Key_AltGr) { bla } ELSE if (qtkeycode == Qt::Key_Shift) { bla } | 21:22 |
| Sc0rpius | but never the combination of the two. | 21:22 |
| Sc0rpius | so the last one pressed is the only one that will modify | 21:23 |
| Sc0rpius | not sure I would have to read more code | 21:24 |
| freemangordon | Sc0rpius: Patches are welcome :). Though I have to look at it too, because it reverses small/capital letters in QML apps. Here, with my bulgarian keyboard | 21:25 |
| freemangordon | QML and Qt apps that is | 21:25 |
| * freemangordon wonders why there is no bug for that | 21:26 | |
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| jean_brat | freemangordon, i have installed extkbt.. it does not show in the main menu.. | 21:34 |
| jean_brat | i deleted the device and repaiered it as well... no help | 21:34 |
| freemangordon | strange | 21:34 |
| jean_brat | extkbt shows in the in installion list of App manager | 21:35 |
| jean_brat | *un_installation | 21:35 |
| freemangordon | oh, ok | 21:36 |
| jean_brat | so its been installed i believe | 21:36 |
| freemangordon | jean_brat: does BT icon turns blue? | 21:36 |
| freemangordon | *turn | 21:36 |
| jean_brat | yes its blue | 21:37 |
| freemangordon | ok. could you pastebin your dmesg log? | 21:37 |
| jean_brat | let me reboot the device and pair it again | 21:39 |
| jean_brat | ok.. seems like its working.. z and y are interchanged.. and caps lock and shifts and numbers are not working | 21:45 |
| freemangordon | jean_brat: select your correct layout | 21:45 |
| freemangordon | settings->external keyboard | 21:46 |
| jean_brat | how do i do that? | 21:46 |
| freemangordon | jean_brat: go to settings and select "external keyboard" | 21:46 |
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| mickname | is it possible to enable svg rendering in microb? | 21:48 |
| jean_brat | its a Logitech Tablet Keyboard for ipad.. not sure what to selct there.. | 21:49 |
| freemangordon | well, try with pc103 first | 21:50 |
| freemangordon | jean_brat: or ask google which layout linux users choose for this kbd | 21:50 |
| jean_brat | its like the exact ipad on screen touch keyboard... don know what layout is it.. | 21:53 |
| mickname | alright, i set html5.enable to true in about:config and it seems to be working now.. i hope this doesnät kill the browser | 21:55 |
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| Sc0rpius | Drathir, deleted .opera dir | 22:04 |
| Sc0rpius | installed Opera 12 | 22:04 |
| Sc0rpius | start it | 22:04 |
| Sc0rpius | I click ACCEPT and it crashes :/ | 22:04 |
| Sc0rpius | this is bs | 22:04 |
| Sc0rpius | back to Opera 11 | 22:06 |
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| Sc0rpius | 11.5beta1-14~fremantle0 that's the stable one for me | 22:06 |
| Sc0rpius | Opera 11 also loads way faster | 22:08 |
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| Drathir | Sc0rpius: check opera:cach any files there? | 22:17 |
| Drathir | opera:cache | 22:17 |
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| * ron0062000 when is the next update for cssu | 23:14 | |
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| * merlin1991 thinks /me is supposed to be used like this not for a straight question | 23:17 | |
| * sixwheeledbeast agrees with merlin1991 | 23:17 | |
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| sixwheeledbeast | ron0062000: when its ready http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1335985&postcount=1163 | 23:25 |
| freemangordon | kerio: new bb-power is in the thumb repo, mind to test it? | 23:25 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Is there a plan to update CSSU stable version to the latest? Seems only 4.1 is available from the repo? | 23:28 |
| freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: there is CSSU meeting on Tuesday, I guess we'll duscuss this along with the other stuff | 23:29 |
| sixwheeledbeast | freemangordon: \o/ also could someone in the know fill in the blanks on http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/ChangelogStable | 23:33 |
| freemangordon | well, I think that one is supposed to be chem|st :) | 23:34 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I have done the columns but didn't know were to find the rest :) | 23:35 |
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