IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2013-04-19

Macereasier to just use the ext2 stuff for windows it seems00:00
Maceror just usb :)00:00
Maceroh wait. the fs matters over usb. nm00:00
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Palidue to MS stupidity, only some first (maybe second) partitions of SD card are recognized on windows00:08
Paliso ext2fs driver on windows cannot use 7th ext2/3 partition on SD card...00:09
Macerok. let me try out this obex again and see if i can use kde to just copy files over to the n90000:13
Macerhaving a wire connected to the usb port makes me nervous :)00:13
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kerioMacer: bluetooth is ~200KB/s00:16
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Macerwow really?00:18
nox-yeah better use wifi or the usb notwork00:19
Macerkde doesn't support writing to obexftp00:20
Macerthat's insane00:20
bef0rdwith all those konqueror plugins or whatever they call it, I would have thought they do00:22
Macerseems not00:22
Macerit's not the n900.. didn't work on the e7 either00:22
Maceri don't think kde properly supports bt file xfering :-/00:22
Maceris there a filemanager that supports smb?00:23
nox-hm iirc konqueror knows smbfs or something like that but i just use scp over wifi00:25
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bef0rdmaybe you are missing something? I think that one is supported
Macerwhich one?00:26
Maceri meant on the n900 ;)00:26
Macernot on the kde laptop00:26
Maceris there a filemanager on the n900 that supports smb?00:26
nox-as i said scp works00:26
Maceryah but isn't the same ;)00:27
Macerfor that i could use sftp00:27
Maceri ordered a 2nd prepaid sim for my E7 .. which will be turned into nothing more than a glorified workout device heh00:27
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qwazixMacer, try wizard mounter and filebox for smb00:41
qwazixfor a weird reason the built in file manager of the N900 is snail-slow if the smb mount has unicode filenames in it00:41
qwazixthat said, using smb to transfer files between linux machines is suboptimal00:43
Maceryeah fair point but i'm going over smb anyways ;)00:43
qwazixI've given the N900 a static ip lease from my router and scp files over (or use filezilla)00:43
Macerso life goes on heh00:43
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Maceryeah but you would think that sftp would have massive overhead00:44
Macerat least more than smb00:44
Macerbut i understand your point. i suppose i can use filezilla if all else fails.00:44
qwazixI'm using smb in the office because one of the pc's is windows, and I can literally download faster from the internet than I can do transfers over gigabit00:44
Macerbt xfers to the e7 weren't too bad00:44
Macerwow really?00:45
Maceri ususally get decent speeds between my synology and linux boxes using smb00:45
Macereven more so to the windows boxes ;)00:45
qwazixexcept if my net topology has something really wrong00:45
Maceri get like 70MB+/s00:45
Macerand that's from a junk synology ;)00:45
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Maceri wanted to build a new nas but i am holding off on it for a bit00:46
qwazixHmm, I must check it out then, I always thought it's smb that's so slow00:46
qwazixanother cool thing for filetransfers is to keep a folder synced with unison00:49
qwazixgive a domain to your pc, set up port forwarding, set the router dns to point to the domain internally for LAN machines00:50
qwazixso you can just throw files in the sync folder and get them on the N900 either when on the same lan or over the internet00:51
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muellisoftdoes anybody have a link to dealextreme or the like handy to order replacement usb ports?01:02
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Avaszdesktop doesnt rotate but other app does. used to rotate but now after a reflash does not.06:33
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AvaszDocScrutinizer05, yes06:56
Avaszforcedrotation = 106:56
DocScrutinizer05you need to unset a few gconf-keys06:56
Avaszwhich ones, how?06:56
DocScrutinizer05I have the inverse problem with cssu-t06:56
Avaszinverse means?06:56
infobotextra, extra, read all about it, jrtools is
DocScrutinizer05and reverse the instructions there06:57
Avaszi just installed rotatedaemon and it made matters even worse. haha06:57
DocScrutinizer05To get rid of the ubiquitous autorotating while still allowing dialer to switch to portrait mode (doesn't lock microB, for now I will live with it):06:58
DocScrutinizer05gconftool-2 --set /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool false06:58
AvaszDocScrutinizer05, one question. it worked before and doesnt work now, how come that?06:59
DocScrutinizer05you wabt to delete or set to true that key06:59
DocScrutinizer05this comes simply from that key being default for cssu-stable07:00
Avaszseems like /apps doesnt exists07:00
DocScrutinizer05why do you say that?07:01
Avaszsorry. its gconftool command. got confused for a bit there. my mistake07:01
DocScrutinizer05thought as much07:01
DocScrutinizer05no tab expansion here07:02
Avaszyeah, understood.07:02
Avaszbut did not understand that: this comes simply from that key being default for cssu-stable07:02
DocScrutinizer05with reflashing you installed that gconf-key07:02
DocScrutinizer05it comes per default with cssu-stable, to forbid desktop rotation07:03
DocScrutinizer05cssu-stable is supposed to look and feel exactly like stock maemo07:03
DocScrutinizer05thus desktop rotation is blocked by default07:04
Avaszanything else needed to be done after rebooting?07:04
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Avaszhmm. desktop doesnt rotate still07:05
DocScrutinizer05that's strange07:05
DocScrutinizer05you did   gconftool-2 --set /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool true07:05
Avaszno false07:05
DocScrutinizer05[2013-04-19 05:58:36] <DocScrutinizer05> To **get rid** of the ubiquitous autorotating..07:06
Avasz"you want to delete or set to true that key"07:06
DocScrutinizer05yep, exactly07:06
Avaszwith false and reboot, it looks all weird!07:07
Avaszstill doesnt rotate.07:09
Avaszapplications rotate perfectly.07:09
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DocScrutinizer05sorry, no idea then. I have cssu-t - with friggin rotation-lock-applet in status menu - and each time I accidentally hit that button, my desktop starts rotating and since I hate that I have to do gconftool-2 --set /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool false to fix it again07:11
AvaszDocScrutinizer05, wait, worked fine.07:11
Avaszthanks a lot.07:12
Avaszthere is this status area applet to lock orientation in ladscape mode. can something be used to do the same for portrait mode too?07:13
Avaszno need of status area applet. just a command to trigger would be fine.07:13
DocScrutinizer05I don't know since I hate rotation07:16
DocScrutinizer05but aiui this applet is meant to lock whatever orientation is in efect when you hit it, no?07:16
Avaszno, it locks only landspace07:17
DocScrutinizer05that's nasty07:17
Avaszdo you have kp52?07:17
Avaszbleeding edge wireless driver and some others are not working properly with it.07:18
DocScrutinizer05and I really wonder why it seems so hard to get orientation/rotation right when I don't constantly bash nonsense07:18
DocScrutinizer05in CSSU07:19
DocScrutinizer05yeah, that's an expected thing07:19
Avaszso that will be fixed in near future?07:19
DocScrutinizer05what you call drivers are actually kernel modules. You need the modules matching your particular kernel version07:20
DocScrutinizer05pester pali07:20
DocScrutinizer05if PK52 doesn't come with working comprehensive modules07:21
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Macertmob has a $2/day if you use it prepaid plan07:52
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Macerthe n900 using bt dun seems to have less latency than the e708:05
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XATRIXHow can i upgrade my flash player libs ?10:56
XATRIXSomeone gave me a link on a howto on maemo.org10:56
XATRIXBut i can't remember where is it10:56
infobotmethinks rmo is repository.maemo.org10:57
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andre__XATRIX: make Adobe package a version 11 (?) for the ARM platform?11:09
kerio10 is the stable version, isn't it11:10
andre__I have no idea, and I don't really care anymore :P11:10
andre__though I wonder if there are some nuggets of wisdom in
andre__ tells me that I have version 11.11:11
andre__so I guess that's the stable one.11:11
XATRIXkerio: where did you find flash 10 for maemo ?11:21
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rikanee~flashplayer10 is
infobotokay, rikanee11:27
XATRIXwhat can you say about this one
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XATRIXIt's not a plain Teak-flash11:28
rikaneeXATRIX: that's a hex edited one to make it look like Flash 11.411:28
rikaneeoh, but the actual plugin binary is Flash 1011:28
rikanee~forget flashplayer1011:29
infoboti forgot flashplayer10, rikanee11:29
rikanee~flashplayer is
infobotokay, rikanee11:29
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rikaneenote though, flash content still consumes an obscene amount of CPU resources11:30
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XATRIXYes, but sometimes you can't escape of flash :)11:58
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vi__through user.css file12:02
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Macerdroid font is the best for xterm14:51
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Macerall the other mono fonts don't fit well14:51
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infobotaw, gee, DocScrutinizer0515:23
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Macerthere is a twitter share option somewhere right? :)16:18
Macerah ok. there is a sharing plugin16:19
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Macerthere is no way to post other than using the browser? :)16:39
Macerkind of lame isn't it?16:39
Macerbut then again there aren't too many apps that work for fb as well... i guess fmobi even tho it has like 0 support nowadays16:40
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merlin1991Macer: there's ie TweeGo16:44
merlin1991though you have to grab the version from the tmo thread, the one in the repos doesn't work anymore16:45
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Macerthe one on the repo isn't working heh16:48
Maceri just saw that16:48
Maceri was trying another one... uhm....16:48
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MacerThe problem is, that this api version is also going down (March 2013),16:50
merlin1991no idea if it already did16:51
merlin1991would have to try :D16:51
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merlin1991if it doesn't work tell me and I'll try to write the next fix asap16:53
DocScrutinizer05~wtf ie16:53
infobotGee...  I don't know what ie means...16:53
infobotwell, ie is the domain suffix for Ireland, or Internet Explorer, or the browser of the Devil, or the worst browser in the entire universe and it should be eliminated by any means possible, or the spawn of evil, nay all evil spawns from ie16:53
merlin1991in example16:53
DocScrutinizer05in expression?16:53
merlin1991or that16:54
DocScrutinizer05for example, alias example given?16:54
merlin1991the english equivalent of z.b.16:54
infoboti.e. is, like,
merlin1991or I could be 100% off and it's actually eg :D16:54
infobotfrom memory, eg is Egypt16:55
* infobot starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer05 in the darkest corner of the room. :(16:56
Macerkhweeteur doesn't seem tow rok16:56
Maceri'll try your tweego out16:56
DocScrutinizer05k'plah tow rok16:56
DocScrutinizer05to whom it may concern:
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Macerwow uhm16:58
Macerthink you kind of crossed over to the dark side man16:58
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troulouliou_devhi i have somepackage that do not want to upgrade ; basically if i want to upgrade i need to purge them and reinstalled cause they are new dependencies that are located in untrusted reepos16:59
troulouliou_devis there a command to upgrade all those16:59
troulouliou_devlibc is amongt them16:59
Macerkhweeteur is broken :) it can post can't read17:00
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Macermerlin1991: debs don't do deps?17:05
Maceri ask because i have to manually install libqoauth17:05
merlin1991yes debs don't do that17:05
Macerah well17:06
merlin1991you can do some dpkg -i -someforcethingy followed by apt-get install -f to have apt solve them for you though17:06
Macerlet me try again heh17:06
Maceryeah.... the -f would do it17:06
DocScrutinizer05Macer: I think your brain crossed over to dark mode17:07
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MacerDocScrutinizer05: shhhh. i'm trying to be a twit here :-P17:07
Macerit just logged in17:08
Macerthe closed on me lol17:08
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Macernice. works17:09
DocScrutinizer05for what?17:09
DocScrutinizer05I'm not even there17:09
Macerhuh?.. i was talking to merlin199117:09
Macerare you drinking?17:09
DocScrutinizer05maybe you should17:10
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* thedead1440 is disappointed that nobody states anything in the meeting...19:07
lokimotivewait.. what meeting?19:07
thedead1440the HiFo BoD meeting19:08
lokimotiveis that now?19:08
lokimotiveoh where?19:08
thedead1440its going to end soon anyway19:08
thedead1440nobody says anything to Rob about how stupid his thoughts are19:09
lokimotiveugh really? you need an extra account for this?19:09
thedead1440yeah sadly19:09
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thedead1440at least its open for all with an account19:09
thedead1440better than previous meetings which were held on google handout or skype with no public participation ;)19:10
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lokimotivehm will there be some kind of log?19:11
thedead1440no idea19:11
thedead1440first time this is used for a public meeting19:11
lokimotivei see19:11
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thedead1440The meeting has been recorded so you can replay it to hear it out19:14
thedead1440there is some logs too of the chat during meeting from what i understand19:14
thedead1440click around and find it ;)19:14
thedead1440...and meeting ended...19:15
infoboti guess log is
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lokimotiveuh fancy19:17
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DocScrutinizer05[general notice] today's council meeting at #maemo-meeting will be 60 min late, starting at 1900UTC (~2:20  from now)19:39
keriocouncil meeting is late, news at 1119:41
Woody14619Ah.. ok. :)19:41
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Macermicrob just sent me to here.com19:59
Macerfor ovi19:59
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Macerfmobi doesn't work anymore :(20:03
Maceri actually paid for it20:03
keriofor what?20:03
Macerkeep getting 403 errors20:03
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Macerand of course the touch version of fb doesn't work well20:06
Macerand the new timeline/otherbloat runs like crap20:06
Macerin microb i can't seem to access the menu20:09
Maceron the top left :-/20:09
Maceri can't really use anything tbh20:09
Maceri think i was able to "like" something20:09
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Macermicrob fail20:09
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DrathirMacer: you use opera?20:42
Maceri just tried it as well for touch.facebook.com20:43
Macerxml failure? :-/20:43
Macerxml parse error20:43
Maceri use opera on my e7 over the stock crap browser20:43
Drathirok i check too...20:43
Maceropera in symbian > stock browser20:43
Maceri guess the newer fp2 stuff that is in the next gen past the e7 is supposed to be good20:43
Maceropera is ditching presto in favor of wk :-/20:44
Macertoo bad20:44
* Macer is reminded of when apple stopped using ppc for intel x8620:44
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DrathirMacer: for me that site load correctly...20:46
DrathirMacer: in symbian use ucweb...20:47
Macerin symbian it probably works fine heh20:48
Drathirload sucessfully inside n900 opera...20:48
Maceralthough i haven't tried fmobi on my e720:48
Macerfmobi is awesome20:48
Macerwhen it works :-/20:48
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Drathirinside symbian also great is gravity...20:48
RST38hYeah, Symbian.20:50
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Maceryeah gravity is pretty good too20:57
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GeneralAntilles2 hour voice meetings are not transparent22:04
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GeneralAntillesThe discussion should be held in IRC meetings, Talk, or mailing lists22:05
Woody14619When you don't hold a meeting for 2 months, that's what happens though.22:05
GeneralAntillesSave the conference calls for the actionable stuff sans discussion22:05
Woody14619Legally, an audio component is required... so says legal council at least.22:05
GeneralAntillesSince they're legally required, right?22:06
Woody14619I agree... convince the others of that (or elect in those that feel that way.22:06
GeneralAntilles "Item a: yea or nay", etc22:06
GeneralAntillesThere's no way to transcribe a 2 hour 3-way call, so you have to sit through the whole thing.22:07
Woody14619Exactly how I suggested it be done for the first meeting.  Got shot down.   I didn't bother fighting for it this time.22:07
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Woody14619MCC meeting starting....22:08
Woody14619Assuming we don't just all implode or throw in the towel... which everyone seems to be wanting to do despite what I see as progress made.22:09
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ShadowJKconsidering intel and nokia were capable of text meetings...22:16
RST38hdidn't do 'em much good22:17
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ShadowJKI guess it's bad for you22:18
ShadowJKAnd hifo is pursuing correct approach with opacity then? :P22:18
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darodiHi, I have multiboot with 00-Maemo-2.6.28-omap1.item                     11-NITDroid-mmcblk0p2-2.6.28.NIT.07.item       20-Maemo5-kernel-power-
darodiand cssu thumb22:25
darodicould someone help me migrate to u-boot?22:25
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