| Macer | easier to just use the ext2 stuff for windows it seems | 00:00 |
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| Macer | or just usb :) | 00:00 |
| Macer | oh wait. the fs matters over usb. nm | 00:00 |
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| Pali | due to MS stupidity, only some first (maybe second) partitions of SD card are recognized on windows | 00:08 |
| Pali | so ext2fs driver on windows cannot use 7th ext2/3 partition on SD card... | 00:09 |
| Macer | ok. let me try out this obex again and see if i can use kde to just copy files over to the n900 | 00:13 |
| Macer | having a wire connected to the usb port makes me nervous :) | 00:13 |
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| kerio | Macer: bluetooth is ~200KB/s | 00:16 |
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| Macer | wow really? | 00:18 |
| nox- | yeah better use wifi or the usb notwork | 00:19 |
| Macer | wtf | 00:19 |
| Macer | kde doesn't support writing to obexftp | 00:20 |
| Macer | that's insane | 00:20 |
| bef0rd | madness | 00:22 |
| bef0rd | with all those konqueror plugins or whatever they call it, I would have thought they do | 00:22 |
| Macer | heh | 00:22 |
| Macer | seems not | 00:22 |
| Macer | it's not the n900.. didn't work on the e7 either | 00:22 |
| Macer | i don't think kde properly supports bt file xfering :-/ | 00:22 |
| Macer | fail | 00:22 |
| Macer | is there a filemanager that supports smb? | 00:23 |
| nox- | hm iirc konqueror knows smbfs or something like that but i just use scp over wifi | 00:25 |
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| bef0rd | maybe you are missing something? I think that one is supported http://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE_113/opensuse-kdeuser/cha.network.html | 00:25 |
| Macer | which one? | 00:26 |
| Macer | i meant on the n900 ;) | 00:26 |
| Macer | not on the kde laptop | 00:26 |
| bef0rd | oh.. | 00:26 |
| Macer | is there a filemanager on the n900 that supports smb? | 00:26 |
| nox- | oh | 00:26 |
| nox- | as i said scp works | 00:26 |
| Macer | yah but isn't the same ;) | 00:27 |
| Macer | for that i could use sftp | 00:27 |
| Macer | heh | 00:27 |
| Macer | i ordered a 2nd prepaid sim for my E7 .. which will be turned into nothing more than a glorified workout device heh | 00:27 |
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| qwazix | Macer, try wizard mounter and filebox for smb | 00:41 |
| qwazix | for a weird reason the built in file manager of the N900 is snail-slow if the smb mount has unicode filenames in it | 00:41 |
| qwazix | that said, using smb to transfer files between linux machines is suboptimal | 00:43 |
| Macer | yeah fair point but i'm going over smb anyways ;) | 00:43 |
| qwazix | I've given the N900 a static ip lease from my router and scp files over (or use filezilla) | 00:43 |
| Macer | so life goes on heh | 00:43 |
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| Macer | yeah but you would think that sftp would have massive overhead | 00:44 |
| Macer | at least more than smb | 00:44 |
| Macer | but i understand your point. i suppose i can use filezilla if all else fails. | 00:44 |
| qwazix | I'm using smb in the office because one of the pc's is windows, and I can literally download faster from the internet than I can do transfers over gigabit | 00:44 |
| Macer | bt xfers to the e7 weren't too bad | 00:44 |
| Macer | wow really? | 00:45 |
| Macer | i ususally get decent speeds between my synology and linux boxes using smb | 00:45 |
| Macer | even more so to the windows boxes ;) | 00:45 |
| qwazix | except if my net topology has something really wrong | 00:45 |
| Macer | i get like 70MB+/s | 00:45 |
| qwazix | !! | 00:45 |
| Macer | and that's from a junk synology ;) | 00:45 |
| Macer | ds411j | 00:46 |
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| Macer | i wanted to build a new nas but i am holding off on it for a bit | 00:46 |
| qwazix | Hmm, I must check it out then, I always thought it's smb that's so slow | 00:46 |
| qwazix | another cool thing for filetransfers is to keep a folder synced with unison | 00:49 |
| qwazix | give a domain to your pc, set up port forwarding, set the router dns to point to the domain internally for LAN machines | 00:50 |
| qwazix | so you can just throw files in the sync folder and get them on the N900 either when on the same lan or over the internet | 00:51 |
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| muellisoft | does anybody have a link to dealextreme or the like handy to order replacement usb ports? | 01:02 |
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| Avasz | desktop doesnt rotate but other app does. used to rotate but now after a reflash does not. | 06:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | cssu-stable? | 06:55 |
| Avasz | DocScrutinizer05, yes | 06:56 |
| Avasz | forcedrotation = 1 | 06:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you need to unset a few gconf-keys | 06:56 |
| Avasz | which ones, how? | 06:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I have the inverse problem with cssu-t | 06:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | see | 06:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools | 06:56 |
| Avasz | inverse means? | 06:56 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools | 06:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and reverse the instructions there | 06:57 |
| Avasz | ok! | 06:57 |
| Avasz | i just installed rotatedaemon and it made matters even worse. haha | 06:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | To get rid of the ubiquitous autorotating while still allowing dialer to switch to portrait mode (doesn't lock microB, for now I will live with it): | 06:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | gconftool-2 --set /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool false | 06:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | reboot | 06:58 |
| Avasz | DocScrutinizer05, one question. it worked before and doesnt work now, how come that? | 06:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you wabt to delete or set to true that key | 06:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | want | 06:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this comes simply from that key being default for cssu-stable | 07:00 |
| Avasz | seems like /apps doesnt exists | 07:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 07:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | why do you say that? | 07:01 |
| Avasz | sorry. its gconftool command. got confused for a bit there. my mistake | 07:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thought as much | 07:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no tab expansion here | 07:02 |
| Avasz | yeah, understood. | 07:02 |
| Avasz | but did not understand that: this comes simply from that key being default for cssu-stable | 07:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | with reflashing you installed that gconf-key | 07:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it comes per default with cssu-stable, to forbid desktop rotation | 07:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cssu-stable is supposed to look and feel exactly like stock maemo | 07:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thus desktop rotation is blocked by default | 07:04 |
| Avasz | ok. | 07:04 |
| Avasz | anything else needed to be done after rebooting? | 07:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nope | 07:04 |
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| Avasz | hmm. desktop doesnt rotate still | 07:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's strange | 07:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you did gconftool-2 --set /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool true | 07:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ? | 07:05 |
| Avasz | no false | 07:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-S | 07:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2013-04-19 05:58:36] <DocScrutinizer05> To **get rid** of the ubiquitous autorotating.. | 07:06 |
| Avasz | "you want to delete or set to true that key" | 07:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep, exactly | 07:06 |
| Avasz | with false and reboot, it looks all weird! | 07:07 |
| Avasz | still doesnt rotate. | 07:09 |
| Avasz | applications rotate perfectly. | 07:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, no idea then. I have cssu-t - with friggin rotation-lock-applet in status menu - and each time I accidentally hit that button, my desktop starts rotating and since I hate that I have to do gconftool-2 --set /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool false to fix it again | 07:11 |
| Avasz | DocScrutinizer05, wait, worked fine. | 07:11 |
| Avasz | thanks a lot. | 07:12 |
| Avasz | there is this status area applet to lock orientation in ladscape mode. can something be used to do the same for portrait mode too? | 07:13 |
| Avasz | no need of status area applet. just a command to trigger would be fine. | 07:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't know since I hate rotation | 07:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but aiui this applet is meant to lock whatever orientation is in efect when you hit it, no? | 07:16 |
| Avasz | no, it locks only landspace | 07:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's nasty | 07:17 |
| Avasz | do you have kp52? | 07:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no | 07:18 |
| Avasz | bleeding edge wireless driver and some others are not working properly with it. | 07:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and I really wonder why it seems so hard to get orientation/rotation right when I don't constantly bash nonsense | 07:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in CSSU | 07:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, that's an expected thing | 07:19 |
| Avasz | so that will be fixed in near future? | 07:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what you call drivers are actually kernel modules. You need the modules matching your particular kernel version | 07:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pester pali | 07:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if PK52 doesn't come with working comprehensive modules | 07:21 |
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| Macer | tmob has a $2/day if you use it prepaid plan | 07:52 |
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| Macer | hm | 08:05 |
| Macer | the n900 using bt dun seems to have less latency than the e7 | 08:05 |
| Macer | odd | 08:05 |
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| XATRIX | How can i upgrade my flash player libs ? | 10:56 |
| XATRIX | Someone gave me a link on a howto on maemo.org | 10:56 |
| XATRIX | But i can't remember where is it | 10:56 |
| XATRIX | ~libflashplayer.so | 10:56 |
| XATRIX | ~rmo | 10:56 |
| infobot | methinks rmo is repository.maemo.org | 10:57 |
| XATRIX | ~flash | 10:57 |
| infobot | [maemo-flashing] http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 10:57 |
| XATRIX | ~flashplayer | 10:57 |
| XATRIX | :( | 10:57 |
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| andre__ | XATRIX: make Adobe package a version 11 (?) for the ARM platform? | 11:09 |
| kerio | 10 is the stable version, isn't it | 11:10 |
| andre__ | I have no idea, and I don't really care anymore :P | 11:10 |
| andre__ | though I wonder if there are some nuggets of wisdom in http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82844 | 11:10 |
| andre__ | http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html tells me that I have version 11. | 11:11 |
| andre__ | so I guess that's the stable one. | 11:11 |
| XATRIX | kerio: where did you find flash 10 for maemo ? | 11:21 |
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| rikanee | ~flashplayer10 is http://www.4shared.com/file/n-G873Kt/adobe-flashplayer-10.html | 11:27 |
| infobot | okay, rikanee | 11:27 |
| XATRIX | what can you say about this one http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=37922&highlight=flash10&page=230 | 11:27 |
| XATRIX | ? | 11:27 |
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| XATRIX | It's not a plain Teak-flash | 11:28 |
| rikanee | XATRIX: that's a hex edited one to make it look like Flash 11.4 | 11:28 |
| rikanee | oh, but the actual plugin binary is Flash 10 | 11:28 |
| rikanee | hmm | 11:28 |
| rikanee | ~forget flashplayer10 | 11:29 |
| infobot | i forgot flashplayer10, rikanee | 11:29 |
| rikanee | ~flashplayer is http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1295928&postcount=2268 | 11:29 |
| infobot | okay, rikanee | 11:29 |
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| rikanee | note though, flash content still consumes an obscene amount of CPU resources | 11:30 |
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| XATRIX | Yes, but sometimes you can't escape of flash :) | 11:58 |
| vi__ | flashblock | 12:01 |
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| vi__ | through user.css file | 12:02 |
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| Macer | droid font is the best for xterm | 14:51 |
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| Macer | all the other mono fonts don't fit well | 14:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~botsnack | 15:23 |
| infobot | aw, gee, DocScrutinizer05 | 15:23 |
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| Macer | hm | 16:18 |
| Macer | there is a twitter share option somewhere right? :) | 16:18 |
| Macer | ah ok. there is a sharing plugin | 16:19 |
| Macer | nice | 16:19 |
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| Macer | well | 16:39 |
| Macer | there is no way to post other than using the browser? :) | 16:39 |
| Macer | kind of lame isn't it? | 16:39 |
| Macer | but then again there aren't too many apps that work for fb as well... i guess fmobi even tho it has like 0 support nowadays | 16:40 |
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| merlin1991 | Macer: there's ie TweeGo | 16:44 |
| merlin1991 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/tweego/ | 16:44 |
| merlin1991 | though you have to grab the version from the tmo thread, the one in the repos doesn't work anymore | 16:45 |
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| Macer | yeah | 16:48 |
| Macer | the one on the repo isn't working heh | 16:48 |
| Macer | i just saw that | 16:48 |
| Macer | i was trying another one... uhm.... | 16:48 |
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| Macer | khweeteur? | 16:48 |
| merlin1991 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1285988#post1285988 | 16:48 |
| Macer | The problem is, that this api version is also going down (March 2013), | 16:50 |
| merlin1991 | no idea if it already did | 16:51 |
| merlin1991 | would have to try :D | 16:51 |
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| merlin1991 | if it doesn't work tell me and I'll try to write the next fix asap | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~wtf ie | 16:53 |
| infobot | Gee... I don't know what ie means... | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~ie | 16:53 |
| infobot | well, ie is the domain suffix for Ireland, or Internet Explorer, or the browser of the Devil, or the worst browser in the entire universe and it should be eliminated by any means possible, or the spawn of evil, nay all evil spawns from ie | 16:53 |
| merlin1991 | in example | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in expression? | 16:53 |
| merlin1991 | or that | 16:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for example, alias example given? | 16:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | eg | 16:54 |
| merlin1991 | the english equivalent of z.b. | 16:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~i.e. | 16:54 |
| infobot | i.e. is, like, http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/e.g.html | 16:54 |
| merlin1991 | or I could be 100% off and it's actually eg :D | 16:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~eg | 16:55 |
| infobot | from memory, eg is Egypt | 16:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~e.g. | 16:55 |
| Macer | heh | 16:55 |
| Macer | well..... | 16:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~useless | 16:55 |
| * infobot starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer05 in the darkest corner of the room. :( | 16:56 | |
| Macer | khweeteur doesn't seem tow rok | 16:56 |
| Macer | i'll try your tweego out | 16:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | klingon | 16:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | k'plah tow rok | 16:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | to whom it may concern: http://www.concert-oh.com/web/public-meeting/E3sJqat_KIZceQ3pY2-AvA== | 16:57 |
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| Macer | wow uhm | 16:58 |
| Macer | think you kind of crossed over to the dark side man | 16:58 |
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| troulouliou_dev | hi i have somepackage that do not want to upgrade ; basically if i want to upgrade i need to purge them and reinstalled cause they are new dependencies that are located in untrusted reepos | 16:59 |
| troulouliou_dev | is there a command to upgrade all those | 16:59 |
| troulouliou_dev | libc is amongt them | 16:59 |
| Macer | khweeteur is broken :) it can post can't read | 17:00 |
| Macer | lame | 17:00 |
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| Macer | merlin1991: debs don't do deps? | 17:05 |
| Macer | i ask because i have to manually install libqoauth | 17:05 |
| merlin1991 | yes debs don't do that | 17:05 |
| Macer | ah well | 17:06 |
| merlin1991 | you can do some dpkg -i -someforcethingy followed by apt-get install -f to have apt solve them for you though | 17:06 |
| Macer | let me try again heh | 17:06 |
| Macer | yeah.... the -f would do it | 17:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Macer: I think your brain crossed over to dark mode | 17:07 |
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| Macer | DocScrutinizer05: shhhh. i'm trying to be a twit here :-P | 17:07 |
| Macer | wth? | 17:07 |
| Macer | it just logged in | 17:08 |
| Macer | the closed on me lol | 17:08 |
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| Macer | nice. works | 17:09 |
| Macer | thanks | 17:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for what? | 17:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not even there | 17:09 |
| Macer | huh?.. i was talking to merlin1991 | 17:09 |
| Macer | are you drinking? | 17:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meh | 17:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe you should | 17:10 |
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| lokimotive | yo | 18:55 |
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| * thedead1440 is disappointed that nobody states anything in the meeting... | 19:07 | |
| lokimotive | wait.. what meeting? | 19:07 |
| thedead1440 | the HiFo BoD meeting | 19:08 |
| lokimotive | is that now? | 19:08 |
| thedead1440 | yup | 19:08 |
| lokimotive | oh where? | 19:08 |
| thedead1440 | http://www.concert-oh.com/web/public-meeting/E3sJqat_KIZceQ3pY2-AvA== | 19:08 |
| thedead1440 | its going to end soon anyway | 19:08 |
| thedead1440 | nobody says anything to Rob about how stupid his thoughts are | 19:09 |
| lokimotive | lol | 19:09 |
| lokimotive | ugh really? you need an extra account for this? | 19:09 |
| thedead1440 | yeah sadly | 19:09 |
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| thedead1440 | at least its open for all with an account | 19:09 |
| thedead1440 | better than previous meetings which were held on google handout or skype with no public participation ;) | 19:10 |
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| lokimotive | hm will there be some kind of log? | 19:11 |
| thedead1440 | no idea | 19:11 |
| thedead1440 | first time this is used for a public meeting | 19:11 |
| lokimotive | i see | 19:11 |
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| thedead1440 | The meeting has been recorded so you can replay it to hear it out | 19:14 |
| lokimotive | cool | 19:14 |
| thedead1440 | there is some logs too of the chat during meeting from what i understand | 19:14 |
| thedead1440 | click around and find it ;) | 19:14 |
| thedead1440 | ...and meeting ended... | 19:15 |
| Drathir | ~log | 19:15 |
| infobot | i guess log is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | 19:15 |
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| lokimotive | uh fancy | 19:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | [general notice] today's council meeting at #maemo-meeting will be 60 min late, starting at 1900UTC (~2:20 from now) | 19:39 |
| kerio | council meeting is late, news at 11 | 19:41 |
| Woody14619 | Ah.. ok. :) | 19:41 |
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| Macer | wtf?? | 19:59 |
| Macer | microb just sent me to here.com | 19:59 |
| Macer | for ovi | 19:59 |
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| Macer | ugh | 20:03 |
| Macer | fmobi doesn't work anymore :( | 20:03 |
| Macer | i actually paid for it | 20:03 |
| kerio | for what? | 20:03 |
| Macer | n900 | 20:03 |
| Macer | maemo | 20:03 |
| Macer | keep getting 403 errors | 20:03 |
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| Macer | and of course the touch version of fb doesn't work well | 20:06 |
| Macer | and the new timeline/otherbloat runs like crap | 20:06 |
| Macer | in microb i can't seem to access the touch.facebook.com menu | 20:09 |
| Macer | on the top left :-/ | 20:09 |
| Macer | i can't really use anything tbh | 20:09 |
| Macer | i think i was able to "like" something | 20:09 |
| Macer | wtf? | 20:09 |
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| Macer | microb fail | 20:09 |
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| Drathir | Macer: you use opera? | 20:42 |
| Macer | sometimes | 20:42 |
| Macer | i just tried it as well for touch.facebook.com | 20:43 |
| Macer | xml failure? :-/ | 20:43 |
| Macer | wth? | 20:43 |
| Macer | xml parse error | 20:43 |
| Macer | i use opera on my e7 over the stock crap browser | 20:43 |
| Drathir | ok i check too... | 20:43 |
| Macer | opera in symbian > stock browser | 20:43 |
| Macer | i guess the newer fp2 stuff that is in the next gen past the e7 is supposed to be good | 20:43 |
| Macer | opera is ditching presto in favor of wk :-/ | 20:44 |
| Macer | too bad | 20:44 |
| * Macer is reminded of when apple stopped using ppc for intel x86 | 20:44 | |
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| Drathir | Macer: for me that site load correctly... | 20:46 |
| Drathir | Macer: in symbian use ucweb... | 20:47 |
| Macer | in symbian it probably works fine heh | 20:48 |
| Drathir | load sucessfully inside n900 opera... | 20:48 |
| Macer | although i haven't tried fmobi on my e7 | 20:48 |
| Macer | fmobi is awesome | 20:48 |
| Macer | when it works :-/ | 20:48 |
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| Drathir | inside symbian also great is gravity... | 20:48 |
| RST38h | Symbian... | 20:50 |
| RST38h | Yeah, Symbian. | 20:50 |
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| Macer | yeah gravity is pretty good too | 20:57 |
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| GeneralAntilles | 2 hour voice meetings are not transparent | 22:04 |
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| GeneralAntilles | The discussion should be held in IRC meetings, Talk, or mailing lists | 22:05 |
| Woody14619 | When you don't hold a meeting for 2 months, that's what happens though. | 22:05 |
| GeneralAntilles | Save the conference calls for the actionable stuff sans discussion | 22:05 |
| Woody14619 | Legally, an audio component is required... so says legal council at least. | 22:05 |
| GeneralAntilles | Since they're legally required, right? | 22:06 |
| Woody14619 | I agree... convince the others of that (or elect in those that feel that way. | 22:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | "Item a: yea or nay", etc | 22:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | There's no way to transcribe a 2 hour 3-way call, so you have to sit through the whole thing. | 22:07 |
| Woody14619 | Exactly how I suggested it be done for the first meeting. Got shot down. I didn't bother fighting for it this time. | 22:07 |
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| Woody14619 | MCC meeting starting.... | 22:08 |
| Woody14619 | Assuming we don't just all implode or throw in the towel... which everyone seems to be wanting to do despite what I see as progress made. | 22:09 |
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| ShadowJK | considering intel and nokia were capable of text meetings... | 22:16 |
| RST38h | didn't do 'em much good | 22:17 |
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| ShadowJK | Transparency? | 22:18 |
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| ShadowJK | I guess it's bad for you | 22:18 |
| ShadowJK | And hifo is pursuing correct approach with opacity then? :P | 22:18 |
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| darodi | Hi, I have multiboot with 00-Maemo-2.6.28-omap1.item 11-NITDroid-mmcblk0p2-2.6.28.NIT.07.item 20-Maemo5-kernel-power-2.6.28.10-power51.item | 22:25 |
| darodi | and cssu thumb | 22:25 |
| darodi | could someone help me migrate to u-boot? | 22:25 |
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