IRC log of #maemo for Sunday, 2013-04-07

*** crope_ is now known as crope00:07
*** piggz has joined #maemo00:09
*** piggz has quit IRC00:20
*** sixwheeledbeast has quit IRC00:28
*** piggz has joined #maemo00:40
*** Creteil has joined #maemo00:40
Creteilhi all00:40
Creteiljust made an apt-get upgrade on my N900, new cssu kernel was installed, but no trace of the new kernel in the multiboot menu ...00:41
Creteilany idea ?00:41
DocScrutinizer05RiD: for all I know the Logitech unifying series are capable to use normal bluetooth, so no need for any such stuff like hostmode or that dongle, just pair your mouse and kbd to the N900 bt00:43
DocScrutinizer05(I could test that with my MX5500 kbd I have collecting dust here, if I had some time to do it...)00:44
*** Hurrian has quit IRC00:47
RiDwait what00:49
RiDi was not aware of that00:49
*** at1as has quit IRC00:49
RiD"It is essentially proprietary bluetooth, that's been closed down in software, only pairing with Logitech devices. "00:51
*** xes has joined #maemo00:52
*** RzR has quit IRC00:53
*** Creteil has left #maemo00:53
RiDDocScrutinizer05 if you could do that, would you mind PMing me (RiD on forums) with the results? This if I'm not online here00:55
*** RzR has joined #maemo00:55
*** XATRIX has joined #maemo00:55
XATRIXHi , anything you can advice to run android apps in maemo ?00:55
XATRIXAny emulators,wrappers whatever00:55
StyXmanXATRIX: not that I know off00:56
StyXmanand there are not even dalvik ports to linux00:57
XATRIXHm... so i can't find anything dalvik's related ?00:58
RiDthere were some videos about that... but it was never published00:59
XATRIXYea , i saw one of it. But you mean, i can't find any software of it ?01:00
DocScrutinizer05RiD: I already paired my MX5500 mouse and kbd to a regular lenovo laptop's BT01:01
*** xmlich02 has quit IRC01:01
RiDboth Logitech?01:01
RiDor a regular bluetooth keyboard01:01
*** thopiekar has quit IRC01:01
*** at1as has joined #maemo01:03
XATRIXIs it safe to install that packages ?
XATRIXMy hildon updater shows me no updates are currently needed01:04
XATRIXBut apt-get thinks different01:04
DocScrutinizer05RiD: sorry, it seems I got mistaken - unifying receiver is _not_ meant to be BT01:06
RiDok. so only possible with OTG?01:06
*** SmilyOrg has joined #maemo01:07
*** pvanhoof has quit IRC01:08
*** at1as has quit IRC01:09
DocScrutinizer05>>A special version of the MX Revolution mouse included with the Cordless Desktop MX 5500 Revolution is a Bluetooth mouse and will connect to any system that has the appropriate Bluetooth software and hardware installed.<<01:10
RiDi see01:10
RiDi checked the support for what i want to buy and it doesn't mention bluetooth anywhere01:10
*** Smily has quit IRC01:11
*** rc_ has quit IRC01:11
DocScrutinizer05yeah, I thought my MX5500 BT support was a property of unifying, but obviously it's not, rather it seems it's a special property of MX5500 not related to unifying01:11
DocScrutinizer05 unifying use bluetooth01:15
XATRIXDocScrutinizer05: Is it safe to install that packages ?
*** estetique has joined #maemo01:17
*** nox- has quit IRC01:19
*** teotwaki has quit IRC01:21
*** nox- has joined #maemo01:22
*** at1as has joined #maemo01:23
DocScrutinizer05might be interesting01:28
DocScrutinizer05XATRIX: apt-get upgrade is deprecated01:29
XATRIXbut i still can install software with apt-get install\01:30
DocScrutinizer05and you'll maybe notice when it introduces problems01:30
DocScrutinizer05with upgrade you more likely will install pkgs(-versions) that cause problems, and less likely you'll notice which pkg it been that gives you trouble01:31
XATRIXbut how can i install software not using hildon-crappy-package manager ?01:31
*** bef0rd_ has quit IRC01:33
*** bef0rd has joined #maemo01:34
*** OkropNick has quit IRC01:35
MentalistTraceurXATRIX: You can still use apt-get directly, the point is it's not recommended to run 'apt-get upgrade' specifically.01:35
XATRIXok, thanks for the advice01:36
*** bef0rd has quit IRC01:36
MentalistTraceur'apt-get upgrade' blindly grabs all latest versions of packages. Which, depending on what repositories you have enabled, can mess things up.01:36
*** NIN101 has quit IRC01:36
MentalistTraceurYou could for example run "apt-get -s upgrade" (the -s tells apt-get to 'simulate' what it will try to do without actually doing it), see what packages it would thus try to install, and then install the packages out of that list that you actually installed/use yourself. Those will in turn pull any upgraded library/dependency packages, up to the version they need.01:40
*** bef0rd has joined #maemo01:40
DocScrutinizer05XATRIX: for indiscriminate upgrade you'll have to stick to HAM, since only HAM knows about package groups01:40
XATRIXok, but is there any way to speed it up ? it's slow as hell01:41
DocScrutinizer05for HAMless updating/upgrading listen to MentalistTraceur01:41
DocScrutinizer05there are several updated system lib versions and similar stuff, that would break things but nevertheless apt-get upgrade would import/upgrade them01:43
DocScrutinizer05for example in your pastebin:01:43
DocScrutinizer05Reading state information... Done01:43
DocScrutinizer05The following packages have been kept back:01:43
DocScrutinizer05  libgcc1 libsdl-mixer1.2 libstdc++601:43
DocScrutinizer05is just luck since libstdc++6 very likely already would mess up your whole system fubar01:44
*** RiD has quit IRC01:44
*** RiD has joined #maemo01:44
XATRIXYes, that's why i didn't press Y01:45
DocScrutinizer05for >>file libmagic1 python-hildondesktop<< I wouldn't bet on the latter 2 to be safe either01:45
MentalistTraceurXATRIX: There's also Faster Application Manager, which works WAY faster than HAM.01:45
XATRIXOk,i'm gonna try it , apt-get install fapman01:46
FIQDocScrutinizer05> XATRIX: for indiscriminate upgrade you'll have to stick to HAM, since only HAM knows about package groups01:48
MentalistTraceurYep. Honestly, when I have to reflash my N900 and set it up from scratch, FApMan is one the first things I download.01:48
FIQhas there been any plans on giving this functionality to n900's dpkg?01:48
MentalistTraceurThen I never touch HAM again.01:48
RiDHAM is fast01:49
FIQfapman sooner or later borks n900 as it for some reason issues autoremove in some cirumstances.. at least that's what I''ve heard01:49
RiDas long as you don't have any repos enabled on it01:49
XATRIXFIQ "XATRIX: You can still use apt-get directly"01:49
XATRIXHAM is just a frontend to apt-get01:49
FIQXATRIX: yes, but enabling the possibility to use upgrade w/o breaking stuff I mean01:49
XATRIXAs long as i know01:49
*** eijk_ has joined #maemo01:49
XATRIXOk, will use HAM01:49
RiDXATRIX but it constantly updates the list everytime you install one application01:49
infobotsomebody said hma was high memory area01:50
infobotrumour has it, ham is Hildon Application Manager.  Slow like molasses. Anticipate you got time for a beer or two until it finishes whatever it does01:50
*** M4rtinK has joined #maemo01:50
MentalistTraceurRiD: Depends on how many repos you have enabled. I develop on my N900, and in general there's some packages I need form the Nokia SDK repos.01:50
infobotMentalistTraceur meant: RiD: Depends on how many repos you have enabled. I develop on my N900, and in general there's some packages I need from the Nokia SDK repos.01:50
*** eijk has quit IRC01:51
XATRIXAlso, why my handset can't get into C4 if i have Wifi enabled ? No other software is engaged01:51
XATRIXMost time it does C201:51
*** BCMM has quit IRC01:52
MentalistTraceurFIQ: I've never had my system destabilized by FApMan, so I'm not sure about that being the case, either in the current version or otherwise.01:52
SkryI haven't have any problems with it either01:52
RiDfrom what i remember, I never had any issue with fapman either01:52
*** bef0rd has quit IRC01:53
*** qwazix has joined #maemo02:03
*** eijk has joined #maemo02:08
*** bef0rd has joined #maemo02:09
*** eijk_ has quit IRC02:09
*** Hurrian has joined #maemo02:19
*** Dynamit has quit IRC02:23
*** andre__ has joined #maemo02:25
*** andre__ has quit IRC02:25
*** andre__ has joined #maemo02:25
*** eMHa__ has joined #maemo02:31
*** jrocha has quit IRC02:32
*** mavhc has quit IRC02:40
*** florian has quit IRC02:44
*** xes has quit IRC02:47
*** fortytwo has quit IRC02:48
*** kolp has quit IRC02:52
*** XATRIX has quit IRC02:55
*** jpinx has quit IRC02:59
*** mavhc has joined #maemo03:02
*** RiD has quit IRC03:02
*** pcfe has quit IRC03:05
*** andre__ has quit IRC03:06
*** kerio has quit IRC03:07
*** eijk has quit IRC03:09
*** kerio has joined #maemo03:11
*** RiD has joined #maemo03:19
*** Martix has joined #maemo03:25
*** muelli has joined #maemo03:34
*** uen has quit IRC03:36
*** muellisoft has quit IRC03:37
*** vblazquez has joined #maemo03:42
*** dos11 has joined #maemo03:43
*** uen has joined #maemo03:44
*** dos1 has quit IRC03:44
*** RiD has quit IRC03:57
*** mvp_ has quit IRC03:57
*** pcfe has joined #maemo03:59
*** pcfe has quit IRC03:59
*** pcfe has joined #maemo03:59
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC04:02
*** croppa has joined #maemo04:14
DocScrutinizer05((<XATRIX> HAM is just a frontend to apt-get )) no, fapman is just a frontend to apt-get, HAM is a bit more than that04:15
*** muelli has quit IRC04:15
*** dlan^ has joined #maemo04:17
DocScrutinizer05((<XATRIX> Also, why my handset can't get into C4 if i have Wifi enabled ?)) maybe your AP doesn't support proper powersavingsmode, or you got shitloads of broadcast in your LAN04:17
DocScrutinizer05well, you all might never have had problems with fapman, but that's by mere luck then. fapman is *known* to sooner or later fuckup ypur system04:19
*** dos11 has quit IRC04:19
*** unclouded has joined #maemo04:19
DocScrutinizer05and honestly we found it's simply not suited for e.g. CSSU, and we don't support it and strongly deprecate using it for CSSU04:20
DocScrutinizer05for all I know fapman is a braindead GUi frontend to apt-get, unlike HAM which knows about package groups, abouts system packages, about not doing autoremove...04:22
cehtehDocScrutinizer05: how long didnt you looked at fapman?04:28
cehtehso far i know fapman cares about all nokiaisms and works well04:28
cehtehit has package groups, it manages autoremove if you tell it, it hides system packages and applies the nokia fairy dust over apt04:29
*** dos1 has joined #maemo04:29
DocScrutinizer05I honestly don't feel like touching crap that made me puke and reflash during 30min after initial installation, and ever since reports of users messing up their system with it never stopped to come in04:30
cehtehwell, fapman works for me since long time now04:30
cehtehi admit the very first releases years ago where crap04:30
DocScrutinizer05let me put it this way: it had it's chance04:31
DocScrutinizer05HAM is opesource04:31
cehtehyes but its utterly slow and unintuitive04:31
Drathirslow because synchronize apps...04:32
*** Hurrian has quit IRC04:32
DocScrutinizer05I won't bother about a reinvention of the wheel instead of fixing what's already there. Particularly when that wheel wasn't a wheel but a sledgehammer falling on my foot when I first time touched it04:32
cehtehimagine maemo would have taken off and we now had 50000 packages in the repo .. one would be unable to handles that with ham04:32
DocScrutinizer05so what?04:33
cehteharguable the best would be if nokia hadnt broken apt at first .. just using normal tools, maybe contribute changes to upstream debian, no optification and so on .. but well :)04:33
DocScrutinizer05allow fools to write cheap broken GUI wrappers around apt-get since they are not capable to understand how to fix slowness in HAM?04:33
cehtehi never looked at ham's source .. dunno04:34
DocScrutinizer05fapman can get all the love you can find, it still is a waste of time since HAM already been there and done that04:34
Drathiri using apt also but ham is more secure in use...04:34
DocScrutinizer05so, in my book fapman is pathetic, and got invented due to lack of competence of the developers04:35
DocScrutinizer05if same amount of work had been invested into HAM, we had something *really* usable today04:36
cehtehwas ham free software back when the first fapman came out? i dunno04:36
Drathiralso ham can be slow becouse cacheing the thumb of apps...04:36
DocScrutinizer05and a few hundered users less who came here and had to get talked thru reflash since fapman borked their system04:36
cehtehHAM's ui is horrible04:37
*** wulfe has joined #maemo04:37
cehtehyou cant batch things together and then run the installation, you have no sorting/filtering besides groups and so on04:37
Drathirui is ok clean but refresh performance is little slow...04:37
cehtehi really cant stand it04:37
cehtehif you want to install 10 packages you have to pay attention to the device for 30+ minutes or whatever..04:38
DocScrutinizer05nobody sane wants to install 10 packages at a time04:38
cehtehsearch, select .. wait .. ack security question, wait again ..04:39
cehtehwhat a reason .. i sometimes did that04:39
DocScrutinizer05you're supposed to install one, then check if anything gone south and you maybe want to uninstall it again04:39
wulfeI need flasher 3.5 and image for N810WE (linux deb), the links on the wiki are broken because they still go to nokia.04:39
*** arcean_ has quit IRC04:39
infobot[skeiron] the semi-official backup and emergency standin for all internet borne maemo resources:
wulfemy N810 is stuck at Nokia logo so it needs to be reflashed =(04:40
wulfethanks Doc04:40
wulfei got my N810WE bin but i dont see a link for flasher 3.5 is flasher3.0-amd64 the one i should use instead? (i am on linux 64b btw)04:44
wulfeor am i just wrong in thinking there was a 3.5?04:45
*** raid__ is now known as nightwatch04:46
wulfeok no, im not wrong in that. i found flasher 3.5 but again no working link for it. =P04:49
Drathirwulfe: stuck with no reason?04:51
wulfeaha found it04:51
wulfenevermind now, it was under a different section then i expected on skeirons site04:52
Drathirinfobot: flaher04:53
wulfeyeah its just stuck at boot up on nokia logo04:53
Drathirinfobot: ~flaher04:53
Drathirinfobot: ~flasher04:53
Drathir3:54 GMT+104:54
*** dos1 has quit IRC04:55
infobothmm... flasher is
Drathiror i dont like time change that showing now GMT+2 if not wrong :/04:56
DrathirDocScrutinizer05: infobot dont like direct messages? :/04:57
DocScrutinizer05if infobot would answer to every nonsense that's not addressed to her, this channel would get pretty noisy04:58
DocScrutinizer05infobot: botsnack04:58
infobot:), DocScrutinizer0504:58
infobotaw, gee, DocScrutinizer0504:58
DocScrutinizer05infobot: ~botsnack04:58
infobotDocScrutinizer05: thanks04:58
DrathirDocScrutinizer05: like you^^04:59
Drathirbot ofc04:59
*** nox- has quit IRC05:00
*** maybeHere has joined #maemo05:00
*** egfdgad has quit IRC05:01
*** dos1 has joined #maemo05:02
*** maybeArgh has quit IRC05:04
*** sv has joined #maemo05:08
*** discopig has quit IRC05:13
*** bef0rd has quit IRC05:20
*** dos1 has quit IRC05:24
*** jon_y_ has joined #maemo05:26
*** jon_y has quit IRC05:26
*** jon_y_ is now known as jon_y05:26
*** piggz_ has joined #maemo05:47
*** piggz has quit IRC05:49
*** dockane has joined #maemo06:00
*** dockane_ has quit IRC06:03
*** DocScrutinizer05 has quit IRC06:04
*** DocScrutinizer05 has joined #maemo06:04
*** wulfe has quit IRC06:05
*** sirdancealot has quit IRC06:19
*** ccssnet has quit IRC06:24
*** Dynamit has joined #maemo06:25
*** ccssnet has joined #maemo06:25
*** robbiethe1st has joined #maemo06:50
*** ccssnet has left #maemo06:57
*** piggz_ has quit IRC07:14
*** robbiethe1st has quit IRC07:48
*** Psi has quit IRC07:49
*** Psi has joined #maemo07:49
*** MentalistTraceur has quit IRC07:59
*** hubutm20 has quit IRC07:59
*** Hurrian has joined #maemo08:05
*** nightwatch has quit IRC08:11
*** luf has joined #maemo08:12
*** robbiethe1st has joined #maemo08:26
*** udovdh has quit IRC09:16
*** udovdh has joined #maemo09:18
*** shamus has quit IRC09:18
*** shamus has joined #maemo09:19
*** bef0rd has joined #maemo09:19
*** bef0rd has quit IRC09:21
*** bef0rd has joined #maemo09:22
*** bef0rd has quit IRC09:23
*** bef0rd has joined #maemo09:24
*** at1as has quit IRC09:25
*** bef0rd has quit IRC09:26
*** bef0rd has joined #maemo09:26
*** bef0rd has quit IRC09:29
*** bef0rd has joined #maemo09:30
*** bef0rd has quit IRC09:31
*** bef0rd has joined #maemo09:31
*** bef0rd has quit IRC09:33
*** jpinx has joined #maemo09:34
*** sirdancealot has joined #maemo09:45
*** _PanzerSajt has joined #maemo09:53
*** Martix has quit IRC09:55
*** minde has joined #maemo09:55
*** phunguy has quit IRC09:57
*** phunguy has joined #maemo09:59
*** minde has quit IRC10:02
*** otep has quit IRC10:10
*** SmilyOrg is now known as Smily10:17
*** M4rtinK has joined #maemo10:21
*** sixwheeledbeast has joined #maemo10:24
*** utanapischti has quit IRC10:29
*** utanapischti has joined #maemo10:29
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC10:30
*** robbiethe1st has quit IRC10:31
*** Smily has quit IRC10:33
*** Smily has joined #maemo10:39
*** Vlad_on_the_road has joined #maemo10:42
sixwheeledbeastI agree with Doc ^^^. It benefits maemo more to commit to repairing/bettering core system applications than making an optional application. However I didn't know it was FOSS10:43
*** pvanhoof has joined #maemo10:45
*** OkropNick has joined #maemo10:45
*** grummund has quit IRC10:45
sixwheeledbeastwikiedits karma seems repaired :)10:50
*** hurbu has quit IRC10:51
*** hurbu has joined #maemo10:51
*** rcg has joined #maemo10:53
*** ssvb has joined #maemo10:53
*** raid_ has joined #maemo10:56
raid_i'm a developer. i'm trying to start developing for linux. what irc channel can i get general information about it in?10:57
raid_besides this one10:58
sixwheeledbeastraid_: linux, maemo or both, what language?11:00
raid_linux c++11:01
raid_not maemo. maemo is nice that i can relate most of what i learn over to it11:01
raid_sixwheeledbeast: ^11:02
Hurrianraid_: learn about the POSIX standard, linuxisms and stupid shit glibc does.11:03
*** ssvb has quit IRC11:03
*** kolp has joined #maemo11:03
*** ssvb has joined #maemo11:04
Hurrianoh and unless you're doing things that need direct hardware access such as ioctls, your program must run on all Unix-likes without major refactoring.11:04
*** pvanhoof has quit IRC11:05
raid_Hurrian: i'm going to be using boost or qt for abstraction, but i need to learn the mantra for even setting up a project properly11:07
Hurrianraid_, well, that's pretty cross-platform. Qt Designer has most of what you need.11:08
raid_Hurrian: is that the same as qt creator?11:10
Hurrianwhoops, meant that. Qt Designer is the graphical design tools.11:11
raid_Hurrian: does it setup the makefile and deb files?11:11
sixwheeledbeastraid_: I am no "developer" but I have used Qt. Qt Creator is the lot, designer is only GUI tools11:11
Hurrianraid_: Qt Creator has integration with packaging tools.11:11
raid_obviously, users will want to be able to build from source, so i'll to set up a makefile, but i'm not sure if i have to do that by hand or what11:13
Hurrian(IIRC the integration is for Maemo, but target the x86/whatever architecture and no one's the wiser ;)11:13
raid_if i don't use Qt, then what would i use?11:13
Hurrianraid_: The buildable project has a .pro file that users can use to make the program themselves.11:13
HurrianNo idea if Qt can spit out makefiles.11:13
raid_would CodeBlocks fully set me up automatically11:14
raid_i better check them out11:15
raid_Hurrian: thanks11:15
*** panzersajt_ has joined #maemo11:16
*** _PanzerSajt has quit IRC11:18
*** e-yes has quit IRC11:37
*** e-yes has joined #maemo11:37
*** futpib has joined #maemo11:42
*** jpinx has quit IRC11:42
*** XATRIX has joined #maemo11:47
*** mvp_ has joined #maemo11:50
*** muelli has joined #maemo11:50
*** sirdancealot has quit IRC11:50
*** florian has joined #maemo11:54
*** jpinx has joined #maemo11:59
*** XATRIX has quit IRC11:59
*** XAT has joined #maemo11:59
*** XAT has left #maemo12:01
*** sunny_s has quit IRC12:03
*** NIN101 has joined #maemo12:04
*** jpinx has quit IRC12:05
ApicHappy Boomtime.12:08
*** sunny_s has joined #maemo12:08
*** hurbu_ has joined #maemo12:14
*** e-yes_ has quit IRC12:15
*** e-yes has quit IRC12:15
*** hurbu has quit IRC12:16
*** thopiekar has joined #maemo12:17
*** pvanhoof has joined #maemo12:23
*** M4rtinK has joined #maemo12:24
*** ssvb has quit IRC12:25
*** xes has joined #maemo12:27
*** LauRoman has quit IRC12:28
*** ssvb has joined #maemo12:28
*** e-yes_ has joined #maemo12:29
*** e-yes has joined #maemo12:29
*** XATRIX has joined #maemo12:33
XATRIXGuys, can you tell me which software can i use to be able to work with smb shares over network ?12:33
XATRIXI can't open any network locations from my maemo file manager12:34
XATRIXI need some GUI12:34
*** rcg has quit IRC12:40
*** Hurrian has quit IRC12:53
*** sq-one has joined #maemo12:57
*** jpinx has joined #maemo12:59
*** e-yes_ has quit IRC13:11
*** e-yes has quit IRC13:12
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC13:12
*** XATRIX has quit IRC13:19
*** mvp_ has quit IRC13:27
*** M4rtinK has joined #maemo13:29
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC13:38
*** minde has joined #maemo13:44
*** arcean has joined #maemo13:48
*** eijk has joined #maemo13:53
*** M4rtinK has joined #maemo13:56
*** RiD has joined #maemo14:01
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC14:03
*** Woody14619 has joined #maemo14:04
*** mvp_ has joined #maemo14:06
lufIt seems to late but maybe you'll take a look into history log14:08
*** eijk has quit IRC14:08
*** Woody14619 has quit IRC14:12
*** em has quit IRC14:14
*** dos1 has joined #maemo14:19
*** M4rtinK has joined #maemo14:21
*** Martix has joined #maemo14:23
*** Martix has quit IRC14:29
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC14:32
*** rosseaux has quit IRC14:39
*** rcg has joined #maemo14:40
*** Martix has joined #maemo14:43
*** ssvb has quit IRC14:47
*** M4rtinK has joined #maemo14:47
*** ssvb has joined #maemo14:50
*** rosseaux has joined #maemo14:50
*** arcean_ has joined #maemo14:54
*** Hurrian has joined #maemo14:55
*** Martix has quit IRC14:56
*** em has joined #maemo14:57
*** arcean has quit IRC14:57
*** sq-one has quit IRC14:57
*** croppa has quit IRC14:58
*** croppa has joined #maemo14:58
*** hurbu_ has quit IRC14:59
*** Vlad_on_the_road has quit IRC15:00
*** hurbu_ has joined #maemo15:00
*** cyborg-o1e has joined #maemo15:01
*** cyborg-one has quit IRC15:04
*** Hurrian has quit IRC15:11
*** florian has quit IRC15:13
*** Hurrian has joined #maemo15:13
*** ron0062000 has joined #maemo15:15
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC15:15
*** florian has joined #maemo15:17
*** pvanhoof has quit IRC15:19
*** erstazi has quit IRC15:22
*** unclouded has quit IRC15:24
*** croppa has quit IRC15:26
*** M4rtinK has joined #maemo15:27
*** Martix has joined #maemo15:33
*** jiero has joined #maemo15:39
jierohi, my n900 have a problem: cannot send/receive SMS.15:40
*** dos1 has quit IRC15:40
sixwheeledbeastjiero: have you proved it's the N900 and not the SIM?15:41
Drathirjiero: network is avaible?15:42
jieroDrathir:  I tried make a call and all works fine.15:42
jierosixwheeledbeast:  I don't have another cellphone.15:42
sixwheeledbeastjiero: calls ok?15:43
jieroexcept, wifi not working15:43
jierosixwheeledbeast:  yes, I make several calls today15:43
sixwheeledbeastIm's work? persist a reboot?15:44
jieroIs it possible a bug because I enabled extra-devel repository?15:45
jieroswitched off and it still cannot receive any message from Operator. maybe their problem\15:45
sixwheeledbeastjiero: depends if you have installed anything15:45
jierodon't remember what I removed :( that may cause trouble15:46
jierois there a way to disable SMS?15:48
sixwheeledbeastcan you view old messages?15:49
*** dos1 has joined #maemo15:50
jierosixwheeledbeast: yes, I can see.15:50
jierooh, it require the lost lock code...15:50
*** Martix has quit IRC15:52
jieroprobably I'm going to reflash it...15:55
jierobackup and go...15:55
jierothank you sixwheeledbeast  Drathir15:56
*** jiero has left #maemo15:56
*** rosseaux has quit IRC16:02
keriohm, why doesn't i2c-tools on extras-devel include python-smbus?16:04
*** rosseaux has joined #maemo16:05
kerioMohammadAG: ^16:06
kerionot in the same package, mind you, but the upstream source package can build that package too16:06
*** Martix has joined #maemo16:07
kerioalthough the python situation isn't exactly clear, on the n900 :s16:08
*** hazchemix has joined #maemo16:09
*** jrocha has joined #maemo16:10
*** RiD has quit IRC16:16
*** Martix_ has joined #maemo16:17
*** hazchemix has quit IRC16:17
*** Martix has quit IRC16:19
*** Martix_ has quit IRC16:22
MohammadAGkerio: not sure, I just made a simple package for hostmode16:24
kerioMohammadAG: in your source, there's the directory that contains the source to the python module16:24
kerioidk if autobuilder can build python extensions16:25
*** ssvb has quit IRC16:26
*** at1as has joined #maemo16:29
*** ssvb has joined #maemo16:29
*** ron0062000 has quit IRC16:39
*** florian has quit IRC16:39
*** at1as has quit IRC16:42
*** arcean_ has quit IRC16:46
*** xes has quit IRC16:47
*** Guest99765 has quit IRC16:57
*** sixwheeledbeast has quit IRC17:00
*** Sazpaimon__ has joined #maemo17:02
*** arcean has joined #maemo17:03
*** sixwheeledbeast has joined #maemo17:04
*** Sazpaimon_ has quit IRC17:05
*** RiD has joined #maemo17:06
*** MetalGearSolid has joined #maemo17:11
*** at1as has joined #maemo17:17
Drathirsmscenter problem?17:17
*** jrocha has quit IRC17:18
sixwheeledbeastjiero's gone... it could be lots of thing's17:18
*** Vlad_on_the_road has joined #maemo17:22
Drathirsixwheeledbeast: yes true but really dont like unsloved cases, to mysterous???17:23
Drathirbetter always known the reason of behaviours...17:24
sixwheeledbeastDrathir: likewise but more information was required to diagnose17:24
*** Termana has joined #maemo17:24
*** Termana is now known as Guest4490317:25
*** dos1 has quit IRC17:29
DocScrutinizer05to those who may wonder: woody is well and probably back by Monday17:30
DocScrutinizer05kerio: iirc autobuilder and lang bindings for py etc always been a PITA17:32
DocScrutinizer05kerio: also iirc all stuff that's used in autobuilder's gear is pretty hard to build to a different version than that used in autobuilder17:33
*** jrocha has joined #maemo17:34
DocScrutinizer05kinda like apt-get install apt-get17:34
*** e-yes has joined #maemo17:40
*** RiD has quit IRC17:40
*** e-yes_ has joined #maemo17:45
*** BCMM has joined #maemo17:46
*** ssvb has quit IRC17:49
*** muelli has quit IRC17:50
*** hurbu_ has quit IRC17:51
*** hurbu_ has joined #maemo17:51
*** jpinx has quit IRC17:52
*** ssvb has joined #maemo17:52
*** MetalGearSolid07 has joined #maemo17:54
*** MetalGearSolid00 has joined #maemo17:56
*** MetalGearSolid has quit IRC17:58
*** MetalGearSolid07 has quit IRC17:59
*** NIN101 has quit IRC17:59
*** MetalGearSolid00 has quit IRC18:02
*** muelli has joined #maemo18:04
*** jrocha has quit IRC18:05
*** at1as has quit IRC18:05
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC18:05
*** rosseaux has quit IRC18:11
*** rosseaux has joined #maemo18:14
*** dos1 has joined #maemo18:17
*** jrocha has joined #maemo18:21
*** dos11 has joined #maemo18:22
*** dos1 has quit IRC18:23
*** loin has joined #maemo18:24
*** minde has quit IRC18:25
*** minde has joined #maemo18:26
*** dos11 has quit IRC18:34
*** topro_ has joined #maemo18:36
*** dhbiker has joined #maemo18:44
*** dhbiker has quit IRC18:44
*** dhbiker has joined #maemo18:44
*** sirdancealot has joined #maemo18:45
*** arcean has quit IRC18:48
*** arcean has joined #maemo18:48
*** sirdancealot has quit IRC18:49
*** at1as has joined #maemo18:52
*** sirdancealot has joined #maemo18:54
*** rosseaux has quit IRC18:54
*** rosseaux has joined #maemo18:58
*** hurbu_ has quit IRC19:02
*** hurbu_ has joined #maemo19:03
*** jrocha has quit IRC19:03
*** bef0rd has joined #maemo19:04
*** rosseaux has quit IRC19:05
*** thopiekar has quit IRC19:05
*** thopiekar has joined #maemo19:05
*** rosseaux has joined #maemo19:08
*** e-yes_ has quit IRC19:08
*** loin has quit IRC19:09
*** sirdancealot has quit IRC19:11
*** sirdancealot has joined #maemo19:12
*** ssvb has quit IRC19:13
*** ssvb has joined #maemo19:16
*** thopiekar has quit IRC19:16
*** thopiekar has joined #maemo19:16
*** rosseaux has quit IRC19:18
*** sirdancealot has quit IRC19:19
*** sirdancealot has joined #maemo19:20
*** sirdancealot has quit IRC19:21
*** rosseaux has joined #maemo19:22
*** sirdancealo2 has joined #maemo19:23
*** at1as has quit IRC19:28
*** jrocha has joined #maemo19:29
*** sq-one has joined #maemo19:30
*** dos11 has joined #maemo19:37
*** florian has joined #maemo19:41
*** bef0rd has quit IRC19:49
*** lxp has joined #maemo19:51
*** NIN101 has joined #maemo19:52
*** florian has quit IRC19:55
*** freemangordon has quit IRC19:57
*** freemangordon has joined #maemo20:04
*** frafl has joined #maemo20:07
*** bef0rd has joined #maemo20:10
*** topro_ has quit IRC20:30
*** UncleBubba has joined #maemo20:31
*** UncleBubba has joined #maemo20:33
*** florian has joined #maemo20:35
*** UncleBubba has quit IRC20:38
*** ssvb has quit IRC20:41
*** dos11 has quit IRC20:44
*** jrocha has quit IRC20:46
*** ssvb has joined #maemo20:47
*** sixwheeledbeast is now known as sixwheeled|away20:51
*** sq-one has quit IRC20:52
*** M4rtinK has joined #maemo20:55
*** dos11 has joined #maemo20:56
*** Martix_ has joined #maemo21:19
*** Martix_ has quit IRC21:27
*** jrocha has joined #maemo21:30
*** Martix has joined #maemo21:30
*** sv is now known as discopig21:34
*** XATRIX has joined #maemo21:42
XATRIXAny idea what to use to explore smb shares in GUI ?21:42
XATRIXMaybe some plugins/addons to file manager ?21:43
*** ssvb has quit IRC21:48
*** bef0rd_ has joined #maemo21:49
*** bef0rd has quit IRC21:49
*** ssvb has joined #maemo21:50
*** e-yes has quit IRC21:52
*** jeverling has quit IRC21:52
*** jeverling has joined #maemo21:54
OkropNickHi. Does anyone know, how to lock device after locking screen on N900?22:01
OkropNickplease send memessage if someone know... thanks in advance.22:04
cehtehwhat do you exactl want?22:05
*** nox- has joined #maemo22:05
*** e-yes has joined #maemo22:05
*** shanttu has joined #maemo22:22
*** gregoa_ has joined #maemo22:22
*** pvanhoof has joined #maemo22:24
*** gregoa_ has quit IRC22:26
*** unclebubba9 has joined #maemo22:27
*** Malinux has quit IRC22:28
*** eMHa__ has quit IRC22:28
*** unclebubba9 has left #maemo22:30
*** eMHa__ has joined #maemo22:32
*** ced117 has quit IRC22:34
raid_is there a google authenticator app for the n900?22:41
*** futpib has quit IRC22:43
infobotit has been said that mirror is, or - for fighting hashsum error, or see ~rmo-new22:43
*** LauRoman has joined #maemo22:46
*** jpinx has joined #maemo22:50
*** arcean_ has joined #maemo22:55
*** arcean has quit IRC22:56
*** raid_ has quit IRC22:59
wxcafe"it has been said" ^^23:00
*** valeriusN has left #maemo23:12
*** minde has quit IRC23:13
*** valerius2k has joined #maemo23:17
*** valerius2k is now known as valeriusN23:17
*** dhbiker has quit IRC23:26
*** maybeHere has quit IRC23:30
*** maybeHere has joined #maemo23:30
*** vblazquez has quit IRC23:35
*** vblazquez has joined #maemo23:38
*** NeutrinoPower has joined #maemo23:38
*** luf has quit IRC23:39
*** pavi has joined #maemo23:41
*** pavi has quit IRC23:43
*** dos11 has quit IRC23:45
*** NIN101 has quit IRC23:54
*** NIN101 has joined #maemo23:55
*** eMHa__ has quit IRC23:59

Generated by 2.15.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at!