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Vlad_on_the_roadhmm nevermind, started from scratch, didn't bother to install the nokia binaries and now i got to stage where thumb is installing00:17
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is_nullhi all, would you recommend pyside over nokia's recommendation of pyqt ?
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merlin1991pyside > pyqt00:57
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DocScrutinizer05yoh, moin02:12
xeshi Doc02:15
r00t^homedamn germans everywhere...02:20
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Macertmobile has some web guard crap on by default set to young adult10:43
Macerbut i can look up fellatio on wikipedia10:43
Macernot only that but it takes forever for it to turn off10:44
Macermaybe next time the modem disconnects10:44
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JaffaGeneralAntilles: Morning11:14
DocScrutinizer05well, I think you shouldn't allow anybody to use internet at all before you told her/him about facts of life11:14
DocScrutinizer05hi Jaffa11:14
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DocScrutinizer05to block XXX is another thing11:15
DocScrutinizer05but blocking wikipedia for young adults? c'mon!11:15
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DocScrutinizer05probably you would forbid your kids to use your paper Encyclopedia as well?11:17
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DocScrutinizer05Jaffa: GeneralAntilles: we'll switch DNS on Thursday 1700UTC (tentatively scheduled), to point to our new server infra11:44
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DocScrutinizer05:eduroam: OT but still might be interesting for fremantle as well:
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DocScrutinizer05@all: please review this DNS changes planned for Thursday. Please holler if we missed anything, did typos or whatever12:15
DocScrutinizer05you got ~60min for that12:16
DocScrutinizer05we need to send it to Nokia, to get stuff done in time12:16
DocScrutinizer05if that helps, here's the zonefile we got now on Nokia NS:  -- for reference12:18
Macerwow. i didnt know bind could do wildcards12:21
* Macer facepalm12:21
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DocScrutinizer05we actually don't plan to use that "new zonefile" as is, rather we'll ask Nokia to just edit each record accordingly to that list - which means old records will stay12:23
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JaffaDocScrutinizer05: Looks good12:33
DocScrutinizer05Jaffa: please ponder to publish a /etc/hosts hack for the unfortunate case that Nokia doesn't manage the DNS switching until 15.3. and Nemein shuts down old stuff12:34
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: any plans for scratchbox?12:34
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DocScrutinizer05plans? thedead1440 is setting it up12:35
DocScrutinizer05I'd guess on Friday it should work12:35
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: ok, great12:35
DocScrutinizer05oooh, scratchbox domain?12:35
DocScrutinizer05we asked Jussi about what to do with it12:36
DocScrutinizer05thedead1440: any answer?12:36
fralsnice of nokia to send over a list of all domains as well, heh12:41
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DocScrutinizer05well, it's not exactly sekrit12:43
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DocScrutinizer05and we actually should have seen that list months ago12:45
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divVerentBTW... what is the current "best status" of encrypting the N900's data?12:45
DocScrutinizer05 <-updated12:45
divVerentI read about one way, which has the problem that if you don't authenticate before receiving a SMS/EMail, you get a problem12:45
divVerent(he said you have to auth within 60 seconds, or email app will start using an empty mail folder, which is BAD when THEN receiving something)12:46
divVerentfor email this is kinda easy to mitigate - don't bring up network before authenticated... but for SMS it seems more difficult12:46
divVerentbasically, the way I would think this could be fixed, would be "somehow" integrating the encryption setup into the boot process at the right place... e.g. REPLACE the way the user home is currently mounted (but that sounds like it may break stuff, at least on next root reflash)12:47
DocScrutinizer05actually nope it's not that difficult. You could link the password request sync to the lockcode request12:48
divVerentalso, the issues others had with mounting the whole homedir as crypto volume MAYBE could be fixed by using ext*, not VFAT, for the MyDocs partition, and symlinking anything "important" from homedir to MyDocs/ (but then of course you lose access to it in USB mass storage mode)12:48
DocScrutinizer05or rather: PIN request12:48
divVerentI also thought of a separate way, on this manner... clone what the iPhone does ;)12:49
divVerenti.e. encrypt by a fixed device password, stored in some area on the root fs12:49
divVerentbut clear this key on a special SMS12:49
divVerentaka "remote wipe"12:49
divVerentless secure if the attacker knows what they are doing...12:49
divVerentbut OTOH, if they have the device in their hands, they also can break a "good" encryption method easily12:50
divVerentpatch rootfs to replace whatever does the password query by something that also sends the PW somewhere12:50
divVerentso the "remote wipe" way isn't MUCH less secure... the attacker then has to think of using a faraday cage ;)12:50
divVerentDocScrutinizer05: can it be linked to the power-on unlock code request?12:51
divVerentI thought the phone is already "online", and thus can receive SMS, at that point12:51
DocScrutinizer05why not?12:51
divVerentat least that's what iOS and Android do12:51
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divVerent(iOS actually TRIES, but fails, if the SIM card has the PIN required...)12:51
divVerentbut does log into the WLAN immediately12:51
divVerentbasically, I need the PW query as early as possible - ideally before anything on /home is use12:52
HurriandivVerent: ask for a password in /sbin/preinit?12:52
divVerentright, that's basically the idea ;)12:52
keriodivVerent: full disk encryption?12:52
divVerentkerio: encrypting /home and swap is sufficient12:52
divVerentbut it seems to be almost as complex as full disk, if done right12:53
HurrianYou can already work with input devices in preinit.12:53
divVerentand what about the screen output?12:53
divVerentcan some sort of text mode be activated (framebuffer...)?12:53
keriotext2screen or whatever it's called12:53
kerioHurrian: in fact, i think that it would be better to do so in rcS-late12:53
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HurriandivVerent: if you can be assed to copy rootfs to eMMC or SD card, you can do whole-disk encryption.12:53
divVerentalso, is there some sort of N900 VM to try out such stuff?12:54
keriodivVerent: Pali has a qemu thing going on i think12:54
HurrianThe N900 QEMU works, but is slow. Really slow.12:54
divVerentHurrian: right, THEN one could do it the same way as desktop linux, basically initrd sets up everything12:54
Hurriankerio: there's a QEMU included with the Maemo 5 QT SDK12:54
divVerentok, then all I need is to get the SDK ;)12:54
divVerentwhich seems currently down12:54
keriodivVerent: there's no initrd12:54
HurriandivVerent: exactly.12:54
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divVerentkerio: I would ASSUME that one of the various bootloader supports initrds...12:54
keriobut you can use the system on mtd to pivot_root somewhere else12:55
Hurrianu-boot supports initrds.12:55 that i think about it, full disk encryption on the n900 is *much* more difficult than just /home12:55
divVerentyes... but also... rootfs doesn't NEED to be encrypted12:55
divVerentand swap only needs to to avoid leaking stuff, thus the key for swap can be entirely random12:55
kerioan encrypted /opt will be hell though12:55
divVerent(and generated on boot)12:55
keriofor performance12:55
divVerentI could try living with encrypting MyDocs only, and symlinking certain dirs below ~ into that12:56
divVerentand adding hacks to kill processes on USB mass storage entry12:56
divVerente.g. mail reception would have to be stopped then12:56
divVerent(and then, I'd probably NOT encrypt SMS/calls)12:56
HurriandivVerent: note that you'd have to be careful to encrypt everything personal, and know what gets leaked into unencrypted filesystems.12:57
HurrianThe N900 won't refuse binaries loaded by NOLO over USB.12:57
kerioHurrian: that's why full disk encryption would be better, i think12:57
divVerentHurrian: of course12:57
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divVerentHurrian: my biggest worries would be the stored passwords, not even the emails :P13:04
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HurriandivVerent: Encrypting /home sounds solid for the moment - nothing writes above it outside of program installations and the usual tweaking.13:05
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DocScrutinizer05[GENERAL NOTICE] * will go read-only mode in <now+30h>, to do final sync to new infra. Possibly *some* services will need to get shut down completely for several hours13:20
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divVerentHurrian: yes, the only issue is that /home is accessed too early... I NEED to unlock it before the desktop (and maybe some other services) start up13:22
divVerentbasically, it needs to somehow be integrated at the right point in bootup13:22
divVerent11:57:20          Hurrian | The N900 won't refuse binaries loaded by NOLO over USB.13:22
divVerentexactly that's the issue why any encryption is SOMEWHAT futile, and I may consider implementing remote wipe instead13:22
divVerent(maybe "remote wipe" with a way out, though)13:22
divVerentway out being, having a copy of the key file elsewhere, so it can be restored after the keyfile has been "wiped"13:22
divVerentand I know that SSDs still would typically contain the data even after overwriting, but software can't get at these blocks any more, so it'd be "good enough"13:23
HurriandivVerent: receiving SMS kinda requires the Ofono stack outside of Maemo.13:23
divVerentbasically, my "ultimate" goal would be asking for password BEFORE anything using /home is running13:24
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divVerentalso, the MyDocs area does not NEED to be encrypted for my purposes... or maybe I will use encfs for the photos only13:24
divVerent/home however is somewhat needed13:25
divVerentas I assume that is where stored passwords end up13:25
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divVerentI am mainly worried about a possible attacker getting hold of my email account, the other data (video, audio, photos) don't matter much13:27
divVerenteven the emails themselves aren't as critical13:27
divVerentbut once one can receive NEW messages, one can password reset virtually everything13:28
divVerentso one option would also be entering email password at bootup... if that's easier to do13:28
HurriandivVerent: and how do you store this passphrase?13:29
divVerentin RAM of course13:29
divVerentlock screen would protect that13:29
divVerentI assume the area should be mlock'd of course ;)13:29
Hurrianno, I mean, how does the OS check, where is the password stored.13:29
divVerenthow the OS checks?13:29
Hurrianplain LUKS or dm-crypt is secure, and should do fine.13:29
divVerentright, if viable13:29
divVerenthas anoyne already done it, in a way it's properly integrated into the bootup process?13:30
divVerentbecause, IF that is possible, it's what I would want13:30
divVerentalso, how important is /opt for bootup?13:30
HurriandivVerent: someone's done a password field for /home in console once, iirc13:30
divVerentin console, yes13:30
Hurrianalso, /opt doesn't matter until you start using it.13:30
Hurriane.g. Xorg starting13:31
divVerentbut it had the side effect of losing SMS if the PW is not entered quickly enough13:31
divVerentand querying the PW from device keyboard is possible without xorg? good then13:31
divVerenton desktop linux it's easy of course ;)13:31
HurriandivVerent: you could probably edit the init scripts to wait on a single task before continuing.13:32
Hurrianupstart makes things slightly more painful than reordering init.13:32
divVerentyes, I know13:32
divVerentbut the N900 doesn't seem to ONLY use upstart, or does it?13:32
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Hurrianit uses only upstart.13:32
Hurrianwell, past /sbin/preinit.13:32
divVerentoh, so /sbin/init IS upstart13:33
divVerentwhat is /etc/inittab good for then?13:33
HurrianDiddly squat on the N900.13:33
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Hurrianplain tty doesn't play well with SGX driver.13:34
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divVerentand what mounts /home?13:35
divVerentcurrently trying to find out where upstart service files are13:35
divVerentI only know bsd, sysvinit and systemd yet13:35
HurrianrcS-late, iirc mounts /home.13:35
divVerentah, nice... found where /home is mounted13:36
divVerenthm... so upstart still uses /etc/init.d?13:37
HurrianCheck /etc/event.d/rcS-late13:37
divVerenthm... suppsoedly upstart usrs /etc/init/* bugt I don't have that13:38
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divVerentok, I see then what to do13:39
divVerentcan input be read "safely" from /dev/tty in these scripts? (and using text2screen for output)13:40
divVerentthe biggest problem is large danger of bricking it... because stuff is optified13:40
HurrianWithout anything else, it's preferred that input from keyboard is read using evkey.13:40
HurrianIn rcS-late, you can wedge most of Maemo's init.13:41
divVerentwell, I already saw that if this script fails mounting /home, the N900 will reboot13:41
divVerentevkey seems kinda bad for querying passwords...13:42
divVerenttext2screen works fine13:42
HurriandivVerent: if the script exits, nothing launches, watchdog kicks in.13:42
HurrianWait, so you want to add a password query while /inside/ Maemo?13:43
HurrianThe boot splash makes that not-quite-easy.13:43
HurrianYou're going to have to forego the tiny dots, and use fbcon to get a proper, easily-working text input going.13:44
divVerentI mean from rcS-lagt13:44
divVerentand if I have to enter the PW blindly, it's ok too13:44
DocScrutinizer05divVerent: see BM13:44
HurriandivVerent: yes, "inside" maemo is anything past rcS-late13:44
divVerentam more worried about input13:44
divVerentwell, is "in rcS-late" the same as "past rcS-late"?13:44
Hurrianwhoops, I mean preinit, not rcS-late13:44
divVerentoh, I see13:44
divVerentone other way would be doing it from preinit, AND changing rcS-late to use the /dev/mapper/* device if available13:45
divVerentthe one one gets after cryptsetup13:45
DocScrutinizer05honestly, check source of BM13:45
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divVerentwhat is BM?13:45
divVerentthat boot menu thing that already is in /sbin/preinit?13:46
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infobotbackupmenu is, like,
DocScrutinizer05basically yes13:47
divVerenthm... this thing just reads from stdin13:48
divVerentthe existing preinit13:48
divVerentand seems to have mixed use of echo and text2screen13:48
divVerentdoes that mean echo would actually work, and just possibly end up ugly?13:48
DocScrutinizer05I think you could query your password there, write it to a tmp-file and use that tmp-file on mount time13:48
divVerentwell, if I _am_ there13:49
divVerentI am thinking of an even more nasty hack :P13:49
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divVerentquery PW there, cryptsetup etc.13:49
divVerentand THEN, delete the mmc device normally used for home13:49
divVerentand instead put there a symlink to the /dev/mapper device from cryptsetup13:49
divVerentthen MAYBE an unmodified rcS-late would work13:49
DocScrutinizer05delete device?13:49
divVerentreplace it by a symlink13:50
divVerentas in, /dev/mmc0blkp2 -> /dev/mapper/crypt13:50
divVerentAFTER the crypto device has been opened, and thus dm-crypt holds a reference to the partition13:50
DocScrutinizer05you're aware that at this point in time nothing got mounted yet?13:51
divVerentthat's the idea13:51
divVerentudev probably is there, though... or not yet?13:51
divVerentit does rely on some device nodes in /dev13:51
divVerentalternative would be chanigng rcS-late to use /dev/mapper/crypt if available, the mmc nodes if not13:52
divVerenthm... cryptsetup is not packaged?13:53
divVerentoh, only extras-devel13:54
divVerentdoes there happen to be a site for Maemo?13:54
divVerentwhere one can search for package contents?13:54
infobotmethinks #maemo pkg is
divVerentthat only looks for names but still good :)13:55 also indexes path names used by packages13:55
divVerentso you can e.g. look for what installs /bin/ls13:55
divVerentok, when I can get hold of the Maemo SDK VM, I will try getting that to work13:59
divVerent(and if it means running qemu in virtualbox... don't care)13:59
divVerentone other part I am somewhat afraid of is properly converting the /home partition to be encrypted... because, what if something goes wrong during the transfer ;)14:00
divVerentI'd probably put a tarball on the VFAT partition, cryptsetup, mkfs.ext3, restore... and hope nothing will happen during that14:00
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GeneralAntillesJaffa, morning.14:33
GeneralAntillesJaffa, got lazy last night. Damn DST.14:33
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JaffaGeneralAntilles: Yeah, me too (damned work)14:36
JaffaAlthough DST in the US before Europe does mean only a 7 hour time difference when I go to California next week14:36
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Maceromg i love the steve jobs part15:05
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Maceri cried laughing15:05
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DocScrutinizer05[GENERAL NOTICE] * will go read-only mode in <now+30h>, to do final sync to new infra. Possibly *some* services will need to get shut down completely for several hours. We probably will need to completely shut down most of *.m.o for a short while, after Thu 1700UTC when DNS switch supposed to have happened15:27
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divVerenthow to fix these?Failed to fetch  Hash Sum mismatch15:35
divVerentskeiron's extras-devel doesn't seem to have this yet15:35
divVerent(but checking again)15:36
divVerentyes, doesn't have it15:37
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divVerentFailed to fetch  Hash Sum mismatch15:39
divVerentmaybe it IS me... when two repos have the same problem. Just how to fix it?15:39
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GeneralAntillesJaffa, SF?15:41
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JaffaGeneralAntilles: LA15:57
JaffaGeneralAntilles: For two weeks. Then maybe a relocation there for a year15:59
divVerentOK, first test works... I used text2screen to write something on the screen from preinit. echo however did not work properly.15:59
GeneralAntillesHaven't even been to SoCal.15:59
divVerentas in, I couldn't find it15:59
GeneralAntillesSounds like it could be fun.15:59
GeneralAntillesPain to relocate for just a year, though.15:59
divVerentalso, cryptsetup has an option to wait for a timer to expire before exiting... so "bricking" could be prevented that way (obviously, for playing around with it, I will have to use something else than /home then)16:00
divVerentwhat happens if the VFAT partition is in broken state? Does that hinder booting?16:02
divVerentalso, would it silently reformat it?16:03
divVerentyes indeed, echo output ends up nowhere, only text2screen works... kinda bad as I would LIKE to see cryptsetup's messages...16:03
divVerentbut can live without them16:04
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divVerentso next thing to check is whether I can get input properly16:06
thedead1440DocScrutinizer05: sorry for the late reply; no reply till date from Jussi :(16:08
thedead1440In total 3 reminders have been sent to him for various issues16:09
thedead1440the latest was the one 2 days ago16:09
divVerentWORKS, "read" command does successfully read. So will quite likely cryptsetup.16:09
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DocScrutinizer05text2screen -xHERE -yTHERE -text "cryptsetup says: `cryptsetup -foo -bar` "16:13
divVerentyes, that's not interactive16:13
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divVerentbut that's what I will use as workaround on error16:13
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DocScrutinizer05cryptsetup -foo -bar <readtext | while read; do text2screen -x -y -text "$REPLY"; done;16:17
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divVerenthm... that I know, but don't trust much ;) maybe will try when the rest works16:19
divVerentas in, can I be sure the output is lne buffered16:19
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divVerentalso, I want to get the exit status of cryptsetup if possible16:21
divVerentok, first attempt failed, cryptsetup not in $PATH ;) but I did get the error message16:21
divVerentis -y in pixels or rows?16:24
r00t^homeDocScrutinizer05:  [r00t^home] (
DocScrutinizer05r00t^home: huh?16:26
DocScrutinizer05what the heck is this now, except a highlight pestering me for dunno what?16:27
DocScrutinizer05an I supposed to have any idea what to do with this "info"?16:28
DocScrutinizer05(not that I couldn't gain same info with a /who )16:29
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divVerenthm... looks like text2screen coordinates are broken16:29
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DocScrutinizer05they might not be what you think they should16:31
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divVerentwell, x and y are simple concepts :P16:32
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divVerentit looks like it calculates byte positions from corodinates wrong, like, based on the wrong screen size16:32
DocScrutinizer05yeah, and *usually* they are even 90° to each other16:32
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DocScrutinizer05byte positions?16:33
divVerentthe coordinates DO work fine at bootup16:33
divVerentit's just screwed up while X runs16:33
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divVerentso that's ok for me... except it didn't find cryptsetup16:34
divVerentbut how can it fail to find /usr/sbin/cryptsetup but finds /usr/bin/text2screen16:34
divVerentit is not a PATH issue, as I specified the paths explicitly16:34
DocScrutinizer05well, maybe the former is iptified?16:35
divVerentmaybe a library cryptsetup needs lives in /opt?16:35
divVerentthat would be... bad16:35
DocScrutinizer05lsof is your friend16:35
DocScrutinizer05I guess16:35
divVerentcryptsetup indeed lives in /opt... that's stupid16:35
DocScrutinizer05well, yeah16:36
divVerentis there a "proper" way to un-optify a path?16:36
DocScrutinizer05so deoptify it16:36
divVerentor is the only real way to make my own copy of the file16:36
divVerentI don't want it to get optified again when the package gets upgraded16:36
DocScrutinizer05allegedly the optify scripts support de-optification as well16:36
divVerenthm... if dpkg -L is true16:36
divVerentthen optification is done BEFORE building the .deb16:37
divVerentand not a feature hacked into e.g. dpkg16:37
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divVerentso I will actually have to copy the file16:37
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divVerentthat kinda makes me want to stop... at least, to stop considering encrypting whole /home16:37
DocScrutinizer05hmm, probably should still work16:37
divVerentand instead apply it to the normally VFAT partition, but formatting it as something else and symlinking homedir stuff into it16:37
divVerentbecause, what if e.g. a package cryptsetup depends on (e.g. the device mapper libs) suddenly get optified16:38
divVerentIIRC the decision whether or not to optify depends by file size, and code grows16:38
divVerentis there any known issues when the MyDocs partition is ext3/ext4?16:39
DocScrutinizer05then otoh I wouldn't feel any bad by mv `which cryptsetup` /sbin16:39
divVerentyes, that will work16:39
divVerentbut what if then some device mapper libs suddenly are optified too16:39
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DocScrutinizer05nothing ever is "suddenly optified"16:40
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DocScrutinizer05and, as mentioned above, the or whatever the name has a config file with option to DEoptify as well16:41
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divVerentDocScrutinizer05: oh, so it is NOT the .deb that is already optified?17:00
DocScrutinizer05I dunno17:02
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DocScrutinizer05but optify-script is not depending on .deb aiui17:02
DocScrutinizer05it simply moves FQN files or dirs to and from /opt17:03
DocScrutinizer05and creates/deletes symlinks17:03
divVerentno, the .deb is already optified17:03
DocScrutinizer05so what?17:03
DocScrutinizer05so what?17:03
divVerentthat means, when ANOTHER package gets optified too, I may get a problem17:04
divVerentbasically, what i _want_ is a statically linked cryptsetup :P17:04
DocScrutinizer05then build it17:04
divVerentfor that I need the SDK17:04
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divVerentfor which I need the VM image that's currently not availablöe17:04
DocScrutinizer05the VM is terribly obsolete anyway17:04
divVerentthe SDK only exists for 32bit systems17:05
divVerentI don't have any PC with a 32bit distro17:05
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DocScrutinizer05I'd rather set up an own VM and install normal SDK in it17:05
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divVerentso I'd have to set up my own VM... and that I'd prefer to avoid unless I really must17:05
divVerentI'd prefer taking an existing ready made VM, if possible17:05
divVerentunless we KNOW it won't appear again17:05
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infobotit has been said that skeiron is the semi-official backup and emergency standin for all internet borne maemo resources:
divVerentI know :P17:06
divVerentbut exactly this file is not on skeiron17:06
DocScrutinizer05hmm, too bad then17:06
divVerenthis "download" for the SDK goes to *.nokia.com17:06
divVerentwhich has the dead link17:06
DocScrutinizer05lol, the mirror of course doesn't fix stupid .php scripts to point to mirror instead original page17:07
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divVerentbut anyway, which Ubuntu release does the SDK require?17:08
divVerentI wouldn't be surprised if 12.10 does NOT work :P17:08
divVerentis 9.04 still the "recommended" version?17:10
keriothe VM image is ubuntu 10.10 afaik17:10
divVerentok, then that's what I will use17:11
divVerentdon't want to have to mess with compatibility issues17:11
keriouse the VM image though17:11
divVerentI would, if I could17:11
divVerentbut the download of it is dead17:11
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divVerentand it's not mirrored on skeiron17:11
divVerentfor what I am going to do, even the outdated image will be good enough17:12
divVerentas all I want is a static binary17:12
kerioaww, did he delete them17:12
divVerenthe never mirrored them17:12
keriosure he did17:12
divVerentthe link goes to nikia.com17:12
divVerent where?17:12
divVerentthe "Download" below goes to Nokia17:12
keriothus, my question17:12
divVerentor do you still have the VM image? maybe the file name of the original archive will yield another mirror17:13
divVerent is what skeiron ultimately points to for the SDK... the link is not very helpful17:14
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JaffaGeneralAntilles: Think you'll have some time to day? (I might, but it'll be later, ans suspect working out what's happening with HiFo may take a while)17:16
GeneralAntillesYeah, I'll have some free time in the afternoon.17:16
divVerentok, trying something else... now cryptsetup and ALL libs it depends on copied to /crypto, still fails... cannot communicate with device mapper. I suspect I know why, but donÄt like it...17:20
divVerent(lack of udev at this point)17:21
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divVerenttrying to mknod /dev/mapper/control from my script :P17:22
divVerentoh, thanks17:22
divVerentso he has mirrored it, just not linked it :)17:22
divVerentor, you? is yours?17:23
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DocScrutinizer05s http://${subdomain}${subdomain}/17:29
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DocScrutinizer05divVerent: well... no, it's not "mine"17:30
divVerentHAHA, ALMOST bricked it... I forgot to redirect input from awk to /proc/misc to find the device inode of device mapper :P17:31
DocScrutinizer05though I could get quite some pizza for the money it costs each month17:31
divVerentluckily, ctrl-d works at this point17:31
divVerentwhere "brick" means "hate having to reflash"17:31
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divVerentYES, blinking dots... it does boot up still17:33
divVerentit failed to boot up all the time when USB was connected17:33
DocScrutinizer05shouldn't you build in a saftety fallback, like... BM?17:34
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divVerentthat would help here?17:35
DocScrutinizer05or rescue-boot or what's the name, which will check open cam door or sth and restores last safed events.d/ etc/ if detected17:35
divVerenttoo bad my changes are not in /etc17:36
DocScrutinizer05(help?) well depends in which sequence you call those early bootup extensions I guess17:36
divVerentbut... camera lock... that's an idea17:36
divVerentI call it from preinit17:36
divVerentand it's a simple script17:36
divVerentthe goal is for this script to provide the device in /dev/mapper17:36
divVerentso I can later pick it up from rcS-late17:36
kerioDocScrutinizer05: ew17:37
keriothere's recovery console, bootmenu entry that gives you a console17:37
kerioautomatic """recovery""" like that is teh dumbz17:37
DocScrutinizer05I know17:37
DocScrutinizer05the problem is that console never worked for me17:38
divVerentin BM or where? I suppose BM does it too by editing the preinit script?17:38
DocScrutinizer05since it needs FB aiui17:38
kerioah, yes17:38
keriohm, same as BM's console then?17:38
DocScrutinizer05I'm talking about BM's console17:39
kerioah ok17:39
keriothere's a "recovery console" thing that's just a tiny bootmenu script17:39
keriowhich runs inside preinit17:39
kerioand gives you a shell, but i think that it uses fbcon17:39
divVerentit has to17:40
DocScrutinizer05will also need some way to print to screen17:40
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divVerentDAMN... what is missing NOW, device-mapper...17:40
DocScrutinizer05that's why automatic recovery isn't as stupid as it sounds first time you hear it17:41
DocScrutinizer05even while it's something windows does as well (basically)17:41
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DocScrutinizer05damn, www aka static is 'dead'17:46
divVerentok... I did now get it to open a LUKS device from preinit17:48
divVerentonly one minor bug, the password prompt itself only appears AFTER pressing enter17:48
divVerenti.e. cryptsetup prompts are delayed by one line17:48
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divVerentbut this now was the easy part... I wonder how to best change the /home partition to be encrypted17:49
divVerentgiven that invariably stuff from it is open while the device is on17:49
divVerenthm... no, failed ANYWAY. It got opened just fine, but somehow the device disappeared later.17:52
divVerentbut I still can reach it via /dev/dm-0, it just "lost its name"17:52
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divVerentok, that basically means the initial script also has to mount it, it can't just open the device17:53
divVerentand rcS-late then has to mount --bind it to where it belongs17:54
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divVerentnow it works REALLY properly... had some other issue left18:12
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divVerent my current version of the script18:14
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divVerenttoo bad the link in /dev/mapper/ gets lost when udev gets initialized, and apparently is never regenerated18:17
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divVerentstep 2 would be the required edits to rcS-late... these are easy18:19
divVerentand step 3 is the part I fear most, converting the existing disk to encrypted... this is kinda hard to get right on a device without an emergency root shell18:19
kerioand, hell, backupmenu18:20
divVerentbackupmenu is REALLY still there? first google hit says it's deprecated18:20
divVerentalso, CAN backupmenu show a root shell? without fbcon?18:21
divVerentoh, USB console, it can... better than nothing18:21
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ShadowJKbootmenu depreciated perhaps18:23
ShadowJKor the old old version of backupmenu..18:23
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divVerentI see that the root shell from backupmenu works18:29
divVerentI successfully opened my LUKS container from it18:29
divVerentthen I will go for converting my /home tomorrow18:29
divVerentthen cleanup my script18:29
thedead1440  <--- has the VM images required18:29
divVerenttoo bad it can't be packaged, but will rather become a wiki page...18:30
divVerentbecause it requires editing /sbin/preinit18:30
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divVerentAND converting the eMMC data manually18:30
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divVerentyes, I now have it18:30
thedead1440so what was it that you need but not linked on skeiron?18:30
divVerentI hadn't followed that link before because it neither said SDK nor Maemo 5 :P18:30
divVerentI only followed the "SDK 5" link there18:30
thedead1440ah $user_error then :p18:31
divVerenttrusting what links say is user error? ;)18:31
divVerentbut seriously, now I know18:31
thedead1440good ;)18:32
thedead1440that link on original tablets-dev was dead too so is basically an untouched site ;)18:32
divVerentthere seems to be another fun bug with my password entry script... does the N900 happen to have a watchdog that has to be fed regularily?18:32
divVerentI noticed that when taking too long at password entry, the display goes dark and a bit later it SEEMS to power off18:33
divVerentbasically limits password quality :P18:33
divVerentalso, I still don't like mounting the crypto device from that early... as it may mean it "may or may not" get unmounted cleanly18:35
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divVerentbut relying on /dev/dm-0 being the right device later on is bad too18:35
divVerentand storing the passphrase somewhere to retrieve it later is stupid too18:35
divVerentok, script is grounded for now by an "exit 0" :)18:36
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DocScrutinizer05yes, watchdog18:46
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Estel_hey, easy question, but I have never used it:19:10
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Estel_in which file desktop settings like shortcuts and widgets (just their arrangement on desktop(s) ) are stored?19:10
Estel_my son just ravaged through my desktops, messing them totally and deleting 3/4 of icons ;)19:11
Estel_(was so happy about aranging icons on his own N900 that he gave it a try on mine, too... I need to setup gCompris on his device soon, that will eliminate touching mine :P )19:12
Estel_I would like to restore desktop settings from backup, instead of re-creating it painstakily19:12
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Estel_divVerent,  as for your question, I think you're overcomplicating things. First, using avanced interface switcher, you may avoid bringing gsm at boot too, delaying it .till after you turn it on manually. Second, if you receive sms before mounting, you just need to read it before closing - it's lost, then. Not saved anywhere, just lost19:14
kerioEstel_: somewhere in ~19:14
Estel_but you still receive it19:14
Estel_kerio, sure ;)19:14
Estel_DocScrutinizer05,  remembering that desktop settings location or where to find info about it?19:15
Estel_I just run into mentions to backup it in some places on wiki, but no location19:15
thedead1440Estel_: i think it should be /home/user/.config/hildon-desktop/home.plugins for widgets19:15
Estel_thedead1440,  thanks... I wonder if icons are somewhere nearby19:15
thedead1440Estel_: not very sure ~/.config is where things should be rightfully stored but i may be wrong...19:16
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Estel_I also vaguely remember it should be somewhere else19:17
Estel_just hoped that restoring it from backup will be faster than recreating for all desktops :P19:17
Estel_thedead1440,  this file doesn't store plugins positions :(19:18
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Estel_it just list widgets19:18
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DocScrutinizer51find ~ -mtime -119:18
thedead1440oh i'm sorry  i don't use much widgets but in mine it shows the homescreen the widget should be at19:19
DocScrutinizer51gconf -R / >before19:19
DocScrutinizer51move icon19:19
DocScrutinizer51gconf -R / >after19:20
DocScrutinizer51or diff19:20
thedead1440on the N9 there is a file for it: /home/user/.config/meegotouchhome/ ; couldn't find a hildon-desktop equivalent19:20
Estel_no need to sorry, thanks anyway19:21
Estel_mtime stuff?19:21
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Estel_it is stored in gconf, the desktop icons etc?19:21
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Estel_shit, it seems that restoring backup on another device and using it as visual refference for manual restoration will be faster :(19:22
divVerentEstel_: sure, BUT... I now am really close to really fully encrypted data partition19:23
divVerenteven found a way without changing scripts, will try tomorrow19:24
Estel_but encrypted home is counter-roductive ;)19:24
divVerenteven found a way without changing scripts, will try tomorrow19:24
Estel_it will slow overall performance down19:24
divVerentthat is the price19:24
Estel_so why to pay it19:24
divVerentthat is the price19:24
divVerentto not leak account passwords19:24
Estel_if you can have encrypted only things you want to have encrtypted, and symlinked19:24
Estel_I don't leak account passwords ;)19:25
divVerentalso, unlocking via xterm is annoying ;)19:25
divVerentbut, I will try that too, bujt with encfs19:26
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divVerentthing is, once you encrypt ANYTHING, you will need to encrypt swap too19:27
divVerentand that is boot time stuff19:27
divVerentbut that needs no interaction, just gennerating a random key on boot works19:28
divVerenton PCs my solution to that normally is "no swap, enough RAM"19:30
divVerentbut the N900  just does not have enough RAM to work swapless19:31
divVerent230M/256 used already, only two xterm windows open19:32
iDontdivVerent: check , it contains instructions for encrypting /home and your swap. Do note that I haven't tried out those instructions myself19:32
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divVerentiDont: yes, saw it, not robust19:34
divVerentwhen one of the files gets replaced during update, system no longer bolots19:35
Estel_divVerent,  encrypting swap is easy, but unnecessary for your photos etc19:35
Estel_for that, I have 2nd encrypted partition, for "super-duper" secret data19:35
ManoftheSeaWhen will someone release a phone with ALL of the LTE bands, a crypto-coprocessor, an unlocked bootloader, and linux mainline drivers for the modem.19:35
divVerentEstel_: I now see your trick19:35
divVerentdead symlink prevents dirs from being auto created19:36
Estel_and script that encrypt swap juts before enabling that 2nd partition19:36
ManoftheSeaeven the DoD can't get a secure phone.19:36
divVerentthat is why your method does not leak19:36
divVerentsoo yes.19:36
divVerentwill try to replicate that19:37
divVerentbut with encfs19:37
iDontdivVerent: well, if e.g. a CSSU update breaks your custom boot, you can always fix it with RescueOS. But I do see why you might want to avoid that :)19:37
divVerentwould still need a robust hack forf encrypting swap19:37
divVerentbecause swapoff is already unlikely to work when in X19:38
Estel_without paying price of decreased performance19:38
Estel_hey, it is easy19:38
Estel_you enable encrypted swap19:38
kerioafaik pali is working on a bit more solid rcS-late19:39
Estel_then disable non-encrypted one19:39
Estel_things from non-encrypted, goes to encypted, then19:39
Estel_then you proceed19:39
divVerentEstel_: oh, by wasting another 512M ;)19:39
Estel_or microsd for 1$19:39
divVerenti wanted to swapoff/cryptsetup/swapon instead19:39
divVerentbut... moving swap off the integrated memory is GOOD19:40
Estel_not going to work19:40
Estel_(without 2nd swap)19:40
divVerentless write cycles on the integrated memory19:40
kerioencrypted second swap?19:40
Estel_btw swap encdrypted all the time is bad19:40
Estel_divVerent,  exactly19:40
Estel_kerio, rather second swap that gets encrypted in case of need19:40
Estel_divVerent,  sure, I use swaps on microsd only19:41
keriowhich need?19:41
divVerentcase of need?19:41
divVerentalways needed19:41
Estel_in need of moving those area51 plans to super secure partition19:41
divVerentthere is nothing more critical than the email passworrd19:41
divVerentwith it you can take over everything else19:42
Estel_I don't see reason to encrypt swap for photos19:42
divVerentyes, but once you receive email on the thing19:43
divVerentyou basically need to encryp.t swap19:43
Estel_for things that need really topmost security, I have 2nd encrypted partition, that is manually mountedd etc19:43
Estel_and encrypt swap before19:43
divVerentto prevent the email password from being written plain19:43
Estel_e-mail security is so low by design, sadly19:43
iDontdivVerent: setting up compcache might buy you enough memory for temporarily disabling your regular swap, i.e. compcache/swapoff/cryptsetup/swapon/(optional)swapoff_compcache19:44
Estel_than leaking it from my device IMAP is least of a problem19:44
Estel_iDont,  sadly, not the case19:44
Estel_Maemo is going nuts if less than 500 MB memory is present19:44
Estel_event a little more is required, something around 50019:44
Estel_nothing wan't to start, if less present19:44
Estel_even xterm19:44
Estel_(unless started already)19:44
Estel_divVerent,  reading your mail password from swap require too much hassle19:45
Estel_better to sniff on network19:45
Estel_brb for now19:45
divVerentif you can19:45
Estel_if you can read RAW from emmc to get things from swap...19:46
iDontEstel_: if you automate encrypting your swap, you might just beat the clock (i.e. memory pressure). But I haven't tried it, so I might very well be wrong19:46
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Estel_iDont,  I recall trying something like that and it was accidental-reboot prone :(19:46
iDontEstel_: yes, it _is_ racy19:47
divVerentyou mean encrypting swap inpplace?19:47
divVerentand hoping there will be no paging in the meantime19:48
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iDontdivVerent: I never said encrypting swap in place19:48
iDontIf you were referring to me19:48
keriojust set up the encrypted swap at the beginning?19:49
iDontkerio: he does not want to mess with any boot script, afaics19:49
divVerentoh, not THAT race condition ;)19:50
divVerentyes, I prefer only messing with boot params and extgra scripts19:50
divVerentfor encrypting home it is possible19:50
divVerentbecause rcS-late does not mount it if it already is19:50
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qwazixI forgot my phone at the office, I can ssh to it via my pc there. Any way to see if I got any missed calls without X forwarding or vnc?21:25
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freemangordonqwazix: select in the DB?21:26
qwazixwhich db is that eventlogger?21:26
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infobotqwazix meant: which db is that? eventlogger?21:26
freemangordonqwazix: hmm not sure21:27
freemangordonqwazix: but I guess so21:28
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qwazixfreemangordon, seems I got something, I can see sms's21:29
freemangordonqwazix: np21:30
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DocScrutinizer05moin qwazix21:42
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DocScrutinizer05[2013-03-11 14:37:34] <warfare> I'll put in the disks tomorrow.23:11
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M4rtinKDocScrutinizer05: good ! :)23:13
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