IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2013-01-30

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DocScrutinizer05qwazix: small update, we came from some 20 physical servers plus Akamai server farm, the current config already is massively consolidated by Nemein00:15
qwazixhaha, DocScrutinizer05 you've been reading me feeding the trolls?00:18
qwazixI can update that ok00:18
M4rtinKand it is actually faster now ? :)00:19
PaliDocScrutinizer05, and what is with email to nokia??00:19
DocScrutinizer05I don't know of any email to nokia00:19
Paliabout gpg key00:19
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Paliif you do not have time, I will write response00:20
Paliwe really want working
DocScrutinizer05I think somebody said it's not my business, during last council meeting00:21
kerioDocScrutinizer05: ...i recall you telling MT that you would be doing it00:21
PaliDocScrutinizer05, somebody who got thay mail should answer to nokia ASAP00:22
Palikerio, who is MT?00:22
Palihm, is online?00:22
DocScrutinizer05also I never seen any proper request for any particular mail to nokia, except that guy in maemo-ssu mentioning "if such a mail explaining impact to the mail thread ... und desk... would help"00:22
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keriohe doesn't do IRC very much00:22
Paliany other contact?00:23
DocScrutinizer05and I honestly don't see why council is in charge to write such mail00:23
Paliif nobody has time to write mail, I will do it again00:23
kerioDocScrutinizer05: it seems that MT is the one to do so, alright00:23
PaliDocScrutinizer05, because council got email from nokia?00:23
kerioDocScrutinizer05: because nokia probably doesn't give a crap, but we do00:23
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kerioand council is somewhat "official"00:24
DocScrutinizer05if you're so eager to take that "...would help" for a request for a further mail, go ahead and send it00:24
keriobtw, have any of you heard from that akuma guy again?00:24
DocScrutinizer05council is your ambassador, not your secretary00:25
M4rtinKakuma ?00:25
PaliTO & CC in GPG mail from nokia: me, DocScrutinizer05, ivgalvez, council and board00:26
freemangordonfuck, MO is down again :(00:26
DocScrutinizer05the nokia guy who said he'll come back to that "nice helpful channel" on monday00:26
PaliDocScrutinizer05, so really only one of ^^^ can answer to email00:26
keriofreemangordon: worksforme, just slow00:26
freemangordonkerio: no00:27
freemangordondoes not work00:27
DocScrutinizer05Pali: FFS I already DID answer to that mail00:27
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DocScrutinizer05and I went out of loop when he added you to the CC00:27
DocScrutinizer05so WTF am I suddenly in the loop again? Anything you need me for?00:28
Paliwhen will be gpg key fixed00:28
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: kerio: yes, it's strange. wget works in just 2s instead of 0.9, ssh to firewall works like a charm, but browser takes 20s again here, to load&render ~flashing00:29
DocScrutinizer05I'll give the FW another boot00:30
qwazixI thought that guy on tmo was actually not knowing the situation and saying things, but he's a real troll. I hope that at least some members found some useful info in my posts and it wasn't an utter waste of breath. Somebody's gotta ban him.00:30
kerioqwazix: oh, who?00:30
M4rtinKmaybe its some old troll with a canned identity ?00:31
qwazixJoined on Aug 2010, most posts today00:32
qwazixThat's not impossible00:32
qwazixalso the verbiage reminds me of something00:33
M4rtinKweird, the other posts look quite sane00:33
qwazixthough most trolls sound about the same. One post in three completely rational and others out of line00:33
M4rtinKother than to the outage thread00:33
DocScrutinizer05chem|st: two requests already to ban piotr asshat00:33
qwazixbtw is there a post limit or sth for uploading avatar on tmo? anybody knows?00:35
DocScrutinizer05ok, seems none of nemein's or maemo's sysops/admins is active. I have to reboot that friggin FW before nobody can do it anymore00:37
qwazixgo ahead and reboot it for now, IMO00:38
DocScrutinizer05I'd really like to investigate a bit for some stinking values in some syslog or /sys/ or /proc/, but I have no clue about that stuff00:38
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qwazixmaybe you could tar /var/log altogether and somebody who knows will look at it when available?00:39
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DocScrutinizer05so I give it another reboot before I go afk again, I'm really not fit to deal with all that stuff anymore, need some time off. the last 3 weeks were too much00:40
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DocScrutinizer05and guys like piotr are just the icing on top00:40
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: the phrase "haters gonna hate" comes to mind00:40
FIQhe's just going trolololol00:41
FIQnothing serious00:41
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FIQI guess00:41
DocScrutinizer05FW booted00:42
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: all back to normal?00:43
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: yep00:44
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FIQi'm a little curious here00:44
FIQI've noticed you've had major problems with repository.maemo.org00:44
FIQhow come nokia didn't? stronger servers?00:45
DocScrutinizer05please ping me like tsunami coming when it gets slow/down again, since then it's absolutely last time I can reboot it, a 30min later even my login stalls00:45
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qwazixof course the attack at the bottom isn't going to you but the troll that I was replying to00:46
FIQI see00:47
infobotDocScrutinizer05: thanks00:47
FIQcan you solve it or is the repo screwed?00:47
FIQ(in practice)00:47
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FIQI guess however it goes the repositories will probably never be as stable as they were before00:48
infobotrumour has it, repo-down is
qwazixrepo is fine as far as I know, but it requires some firewall wizardry00:48
qwazixso that traffic is well throttled00:49
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FIQI guess it will end up slower than before the migration but working00:50
M4rtinKFIQ: and someone can also finally try to fix some of the long-term issues00:50
DocScrutinizer05current state is: [2013-01-28 10:41:00] <mashiara> ok, stage now has an external vif that is configured but not up, local iptables needs still to be configured.00:51
M4rtinKsuch as the autobuilder outage00:51
qwazixNot necessarily as there are about 40000 operational N900's not that a big number00:51
M4rtinKonce the repos are online of course00:51
qwazixit's just that the system was set up with a different config in mind00:51
qwazixThat's speculation though, my technical skills aren't that good to predict what'll happen00:52
DocScrutinizer05for now all our problems stem from friggin firewall I just rebooted00:52
DocScrutinizer05it obviously goes bonkers even without repo being up, but with repo traffic it's down instantly00:53
keriois akamai still all up in our grill?00:55
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DocScrutinizer05akamai serverfarm seems to have shut down. AIUI it's same servers that host tablets-dev00:59
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DocScrutinizer05last thursday iirc we seen DNS changes to remove and turn tmo from CNAME into A record01:03
kerioso... what's bringing everything to its knees whenever rmo is enabled again?01:03
keriothe n900s aren't all constantly hammering the repo01:03
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DocScrutinizer05kerio: I don't know. I think it's mere traffix01:03
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DocScrutinizer05the FW needed 14h for *.m.o without repo to take it down01:04
DocScrutinizer05with enabling repo this happens during minutes01:04
keriowhat the fuck01:05
kerioso... what do we do?01:05
DocScrutinizer05[2013-01-28 10:41:00] <mashiara> ok, stage now has an external vif that is configured but not up, local iptables needs still to be configured.01:06
DocScrutinizer05though that FW POS needs fixing too, I'm not eager brkn caqlling me DocReboot now01:07
FIQDocScrutinizer05: do some shell kung-fu and set an interval to fw reboot? :d01:07
DocScrutinizer05[2013-01-29 08:45:22] <aslani> but there's something weird going on since, xen says IP address of that machine in "unknown"01:09
DocScrutinizer05odds are Nemein prefers to move the VM to our iron, rather than fixing that on their xen-grid01:12
DocScrutinizer05no FW on our server too, I guess01:12
keriobleh, yet another migration01:12
kerioi hadn't realized this01:12
DocScrutinizer05kerio: and not the last one01:14
DocScrutinizer05since we need to migrate to something we really can afford, those srvers still are >500EUR/month for CoLo01:14
DocScrutinizer05and they're possibly just a tad too weak for our whole infra01:15
DocScrutinizer05so the plan is to get the iron handed over from Nemein at end of Feb the latest, hopefully with all the VM moved on those server(s), and then run them for a month or two during which we migrate a third time, this time to rented or free hw, like e.g. at osuosl.org01:17
DocScrutinizer05or Hetzner01:17
DocScrutinizer05we can't afford run our own hw on CoLo, figure what happens if blue magic smoke escapes01:19
DocScrutinizer05whole *.m.o would go down same sacond, and when or if it ever comes up again is up to anybody's guess01:20
DocScrutinizer05so we *need* rented hardware, like e.g. Hetzner root servers, which also are cheaper than same power on CoLo with our own hw donated by Nokia01:21
DocScrutinizer05and no, there are none of the obvious better optons available to us, like e.g. getting the money for the servers instead of the iron, from Nokia01:22
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DocScrutinizer05neither could we make Nemein migrate to other infra e.g at hetzner, directly. at least I doubt they will do that. They *might* do migration of the VM from their xen-grid to the irons Nokia donated to us, since everything else just looks too silly and useless01:24
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infobotrumour has it, repo-down is
DocScrutinizer05infobot: repo-down is also
infobotokay, DocScrutinizer0501:52
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dimirIn my n900 a Phone app launches on Desktop rotation. Any ideas how to turn that thing off?02:19
Lava_Croftin the phone app itself02:19
Lava_Croftit has a menu at the top02:19
dimirthanks a lot Lava_Croft!02:20
Lava_Croftno problem!02:20
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dimirAnd what about disabling Desktop rotation?02:23
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Lava_Croftin there02:24
Lava_Croftnear the bottom02:24
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dimirThe "gconftool-2 --set /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool false && reboot" thing?02:27
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dimirOK, rebooting...02:29
dimirLava_Croft: Oh man, that worked! Thanks again! :-)02:31
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dimirSo, while at it, is there a way to disable intro sound on boot?02:37
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dimirI mean the Nokia jingle.02:37
dimirI'm OK with the video, I just want to disable sound.02:38
dimirAnd when it wasn't Silent after last boot.02:38
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DocScrutinizer05I only know how to replace (or nuke) the complete video02:53
DocScrutinizer05again see my tools page02:53
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DocScrutinizer05you could edit the shaking hands video on your PC, remove the sound, and replace the original with that edited one02:54
DocScrutinizer05but honestly simply nuking the whole video is way simpler than to mute it02:55
DocScrutinizer05dimir: btw that gconf setting vanishes as soon as you touch the orientation-lock in status menu02:56
DocScrutinizer05you have to redo it after that02:56
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Psianyone know what codec/codecs the stock n900 mediaplayer can decode in hardware from a upnp server?03:16
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DocScrutinizer05oooh, good question04:08
DocScrutinizer05the "in hardware" detail makes answering a bit tricky :-)04:08
DocScrutinizer05I'm sure you are aware this is basically a question related to mafw04:10
DocScrutinizer05and PA04:10
DocScrutinizer05Psi: ^^^04:16
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DocScrutinizer05FYI: updated/augmented05:34
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PsiDocScrutinizer05: thanks07:50
DocScrutinizer05Psi: yw07:51
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DocScrutinizer05sorry I can't recall better details, somebody else here might know though07:52
DocScrutinizer05there are some PA / gst plugins known to operate on DSP, others are just AP07:52
DocScrutinizer05wait, I got one loosely related article for you...07:53
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DocScrutinizer05yay, sometimes it takes a while to locate the bookmark i'm searching for:
RST38hah, that link...07:59
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kerioiirc mafw doesn't do hardware-accelerated audio08:08
kerioonly video08:08
DocScrutinizer05in the end who knows for sure08:10
DocScrutinizer05though says that usually all codecs run on AP, for avoiding overhead and latency of passing stuff to DSP08:12
DocScrutinizer05which probably makes sense08:12
DocScrutinizer05Psi: why is it important for you to know if the codec runs on hw or in sw?08:13
kerio...holy crap, that's a complicated setup08:14
kerioanyway, i'd like dsp music playback - i don't care much about that kind of latency, and it would leave the cpu a bit more free for other tasks08:15
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PsiDocScrutinizer05: i want to setup upnp access to digital tv on my phone. But im not sure what to transcode the dvbt feed into08:17
Psiit works if i use MPEG1 but that's not very good08:18
DocScrutinizer05ooh damn, you're talking about video codecs08:18
keriomight wanna ask freemangordon too08:19
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DocScrutinizer05or rather
DocScrutinizer05I think only h.263 (or 4?) baseline is supported08:21
DocScrutinizer05what this means for your myriad of container formats... don't ask me08:22
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DocScrutinizer05I think on wiki there are some articles about transcoding video for playback on N900. maybe search for "handbrake" iirc08:25
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DocScrutinizer05tmo might also have some threads about that topic08:25
NitaChanDoes anyone know if the repos are down permanently? I haven't been able to access them at all for the last two days on my N90008:26
NitaChanAlso, what's that about transcoding?08:26
infoboti guess repo-down is
DocScrutinizer05~_default repo-down08:27
infoboti heard repo-down is
DocScrutinizer05~#maemo repo-down is also
infobotokay, DocScrutinizer0508:28
infobotrumour has it, repo-down is, or
DocScrutinizer05~forget _default repo-down08:28
infoboti didn't have anything called '_default repo-down' to forget, DocScrutinizer0508:28
DocScrutinizer05~forget repo-down08:28
infoboti forgot repo-down, DocScrutinizer0508:28
infobotrepo-down is probably, or
DocScrutinizer05~literal repo-down08:29
infobot"#maemo repo-down" is ", or"08:29
DocScrutinizer05~_default repo-down08:30
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DocScrutinizer05wow, nitachan been a visitor in a hurry, eh?08:34
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infoboti guess mirror is
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freemangordonkerio: mafw uses playbin2, so it is up to gstreamer to decide which codec09:21
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chem|stDocScrutinizer05: I am three monkeys! and th fsck I hate those lazy bstrds not reading a top posted visible everywhere notice on tmo...11:20
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chem|stDocScrutinizer05: and who complains... having 2 out of 700 active users complain is fairly not enough11:21
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DocScrutinizer05hooh, what's up?11:21
chem|stI had sex till 5 slept 4 hours and had not enough coffee11:21
chem|stor do you mean those lazy basterds11:22
chem|stmost real mail to webmaster is people not reading
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DocScrutinizer05set up an autoresponder "please read and include first 3 words of first post to your mail subject, or otherwise... spam-folder, Thank you for your cooperation"11:23
chem|stDocScrutinizer05: would you mind and give me numbers on which posts I delete to have only valid info in this thread11:23
DocScrutinizer05sure, no problem11:24
chem|stthedead1440: please update the starting post to become realy for dummies11:24
chem|steven I am confused11:24
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chem|ststarting post has to be a guide to __ONE__11:25
thedead1440chem|st: are you confused due to lack of sleep?11:25
chem|stnot 3 mirrors pls11:25
thedead1440ah you want me to remove the other 2; ok11:26
chem|stthedead1440: nope because I got my brain fucked out 4 hours ago...11:26
chem|stthedead1440: make it realy for dummies11:26
chem|sthaving the first and second mirror not working properly the other day made things worse11:27
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chem|stping me when you are done, I will stick and lock it11:28
chem|stis sticked ok then I will lock it11:28
thedead1440done ;) read it first11:28
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chem|styou may provide a link to some webIRC with preset credentials to join #maemo11:29
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thedead1440done again11:30
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chem|stnice ;)11:31
chem|stthedead1440: thanks!11:31
chem|stas you ask for reply I do not close it11:31
thedead1440no probs :-) as it is you have another topic going to require your attention on TMO :D11:31
thedead1440its better for all n00bs to post there instead of new threads11:31
DocScrutinizer05chem|st: sorry, backward... 137-136, 134-114, (113?), 112-91 on
DocScrutinizer05ooh, i'm afraid you're talking about another thread11:32
chem|stDocScrutinizer05: and you may update your migration thread to have current status only I know people like a changelog but that is not needed here I think11:33
DocScrutinizer05hmm, i'd rather stop the whole thread11:34
DocScrutinizer05start a new one11:34
thedead1440or he can keep the changelog chem|st and bold and underline the current status on the top of his post (don't make the old man delete things he'll hit you :p)11:34
RST38hbetter bring the official repos back online11:34
RST38hbecause no tmo thread will ever solve the problem11:34
chem|stDocScrutinizer05: yeah... you might...not!11:35
DocScrutinizer05RST38h: i ahppily hand over that duty to you11:35
DocScrutinizer05good luck11:35
chem|stanticron like thedead1440 said latest first11:35
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RST38hDoc: Can I also have a BFG-9000?11:35
* chem|st slaps RST38h with a wet trout coverd with tiny mirror pieces11:36
DocScrutinizer05rather than bitching at me re repo which I / we CANT fix since it's Nemein's domain, you should enjoy lightning fast firewall since our new magician warfare touched it11:37
DocScrutinizer05...and  swoooosh I'm gone again11:38
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* RST38h has never heard "Nemein" in relation to anything properly working, in fact11:39
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DocScrutinizer05basically *everything* that works on *.m.o now is thanks to Nemein11:41
DocScrutinizer05except FW and tmo where "we" helped" a bit (more)11:42
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: lol, FW is supposed to be ok now?11:43
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DocScrutinizer05it seems to behave since 11h, and the tweaks warfare did are plausible11:43
freemangordondamn, it seems like it is ok, lets see how it will continue11:44
freemangordonkudos to warfare :)11:44
cehtehare the repos back under normal names?11:44
DocScrutinizer05alas i'm not able to start up repo.m.o VM11:44
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: we need nemein?11:45
freemangordonto start that VM that is11:45
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DocScrutinizer05yes, Eero resp "the grid guy" are exposing repo to bypass FW - even when it might work with FW as well now11:45
freemangordonwhat was it, too small conntrack table?11:46
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DocScrutinizer05and I have no access to the host, only to the VMs running on the host. So if a VM is "powered down" I can't stat it11:46
freemangordonyeah :(11:46
DocScrutinizer05too small conntrack and some other timeout and buffer size settings11:46
freemangordonmakes sense11:47
DocScrutinizer05echo 32768 > /sys/module/nf_conntrack/parameters/hashsize11:47
DocScrutinizer05echo 256000 > /proc/sys/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_max11:47
DocScrutinizer05echo 10 > /proc/sys/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_time_wait11:47
DocScrutinizer05echo 10 > /proc/sys/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_unacknowledged11:47
DocScrutinizer05echo 600 > /proc/sys/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_established11:47
freemangordonI see :)11:48
DocScrutinizer05the latter 3 probably were insanely high11:48
DocScrutinizer05and aiui hashsize been 16M11:48
freemangordonmaybe repos will make it through FW11:48
DocScrutinizer05would, but the FW port forward got scrapped11:49
DocScrutinizer05and the general IP/network config is already changed11:49
freemangordonaah, ok11:49
freemangordonwell, once we have the full control, I guess that could be fixed11:50
DocScrutinizer05[2013-01-28 10:41:00] <mashiara> ok, stage now has an external vif that is configured but not up, local iptables needs still to be configured.11:50
DocScrutinizer05I hope they will finish on that task today11:50
freemangordonBTW is FW a box or VM?11:51
freemangordonok. thanks for the info :)11:51
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mad_devi know this might sound, some extent. but when will this grim go away.12:41
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freemangordonromaxa:  why github wants all 3 commits I did merged? I want only one(gstreamer). How to do that?12:46
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freemangordonthis is stupid :(12:51
freemangordonseems I have to create a separate branch for every commit I want merged. Madness :)12:57
freemangordonooh, it seems I can't remove that pull request either. how nice :mad:12:59
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tadzikfreemangordon: you can just cherry-pick them, no?13:02
tadzikI don't quite see the problem. You're the merger, or the mergee?13:03
freemangordontadzik: sure, put that is not the point13:03
freemangordonI want my changes murged "upstream"13:03
tadzikah, so you can't open a pull request for just one commit?13:03
tadzikis that what you mean?13:03
freemangordonI was thinking github works in the same way as gitorious, on gitorious you create merge request with commits you want merged13:04
freemangordontadzik: yep13:04
tadzikon github you do pull requests on branches, yes13:04
tadzik"Please pull this branch into your master"13:04
freemangordonthis is madness13:04
tadzikwell, is it13:04
freemangordonand the worst thing is that I can;t withdraw that pull request in order to fix it :D13:05
tadzikdoesn't Linux workflow go the same way, with people creating for-linus branches?13:05
tadzikYou should be able to just close it13:05
tadzikor maybe only the merger can do that ;f13:05
freemangordonI guess I can13:05
freemangordonI have merger rigths13:05
freemangordonooh, I can't close it either13:07
freemangordonI can merge it, but can't close it. fuck13:08
mad_devahh...git, it seems you have another victim13:10
freemangordonit is not git to blame, but github13:12
tadzikyeah, blame git13:12
freemangordonno, why git?13:12
tadzikthat was ironic13:12
freemangordonaah :D13:12
mad_devit was linus who wrote git, right?13:13
mad_devi remember watching a talk he did  at google. he basicly trashed all other systems and declared that git is supreme. arogant, yet true.13:16
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freemangordonoooh, I managed to close it13:18
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keriodarcs is much, much better than git, though13:45
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povbot_Bug 836243: was not found.13:49
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infobot:), DocScrutinizer5115:12
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DocScrutinizer51warfare: ping15:46
ShadowXDestination host unreachable :P15:58
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warfareDocScrutinizer51: pong16:33
DocScrutinizer05warfare: false alarm. thedead1440 reported laggy firewall again, but my checks during last 5 min didn't show anything particularly bad16:34
warfare'k :)16:34
warfareShadowX: just  high latency.16:36
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DocScrutinizer05warfare: could you install a cronjob that checks every hour for either you or me logged in via ssh, and does a shutdown -r "now + 300s" if neither of us is?16:37
DocScrutinizer05this way we would recover from complete lockup of IF after some 2 hours the latest16:38
kerioa dead man's switch? neat16:39
warfareDocScrutinizer05: the cron daemon on endian is strange (to be freindly}16:40
cehtehDocScrutinizer05: there is the watchdogd which i used to ping a servers router and if not reset the server, could that work for you too?16:40
warfarecehteh: I'll have a look into that.16:41
cehtehthe watchdogd can do a lot more and with hardware or kernel-software watchdog its really hard to lock a system up16:41
cehteh(but at worst you can go into a reboot loop when you configure something wrong and cant fix that in time, be careful :))16:42
warfareI know that from my wrap board ;)16:42
cehtehgood :)16:42
ShadowXwarfare, i was just joking around :P i'm bored xD16:44
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warfareShadowX: me too ;) At least the wireless seems to work for longer than 5 minutes.16:45
DocScrutinizer51warfare: if crond is borked, use a while sleep 3600; do...; done16:45
ShadowXhate wireless :P all those bits speeding around my head all the time :P16:46
ShadowXanyway it seems the fw will make more trouble then help ...(if you'll need to reboot it every 2h when there's no one around in him) ....why not just remove it?16:46
DocScrutinizer51because that's not our call16:47
DocScrutinizer51it's still Nemein's sandbox16:47
ShadowXHah. :) good reason16:47
ShadowXbtw flushing and reloading the rules dosnt help?16:48
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DocScrutinizer05ShadowX: nfc, I'm a noob on that fw stuff, I have an idea about the theory at best16:52
ShadowXkernel version?16:53
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ShadowXCan you pastebin - dmesg (when it starts making problems) and iptables --list-rules ?16:55
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Skryseen perioidical flushing and reloading of rules "solve" quite a few mysterious fw probs before, mostly with 2.6.x kernels17:01
ShadowXmmm.... i think only one of them can be counted as 'mysterius'17:02
ShadowXand it was  fixed ....somewhere around 2.6.32 (i may be wrong about the version)17:02
Skrywell, generally speaking, probably not uptodate what's happening17:02
ShadowXsome tables was growing till fail :]17:02
Skryyeah, vaque memory of something like that17:03
Skrythank something have not had to touch that stuff in years :)17:03
ShadowXSkry, no no my point was that every other problem (except ^) was pretty much not so mysterius takes some time to find out why it happens the first time you see it , but iptables is a good boy and tells most of the stuff in the logs17:03
ShadowXiptables - good puppy :D17:04
Skryinfinite snacks to iptables!17:05
ShadowXthat said, iptables+l7 filtering sucks.(17:06
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n900-dkDo you have monitoring for connection table?17:33
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warfaren900-dk: Yes. Someone upped tcp buffers to 16M, that could also have been an issue.17:37
n900-dkso the 16M limit is reached after some time?17:39
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warfareNo, every tcp connection to (not through) the firewall, takes up 16M of memory. Pair that with an ajaxy webfrontend and onlx 1G of memory -> boom.17:41
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n900-dkwhoops - Is it possible to limit the number of connections per. source IP?17:43
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ShadowXy, but with some limitations.17:45
n900-dkguess all this limiting was already given a shot..17:48
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DocScrutinizer05Mem:   1030464k total,   346032k used,   684432k free,    96988k buffers18:17
DocScrutinizer05been at 824444k free 6h ago18:18
freemangordonqwazix: OMG, latest embedLite plays with GL acceleration, at ~ 11 fps. Without my optimisations, lets see how it will be with them :)18:18
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keriofree ram is wasted ram, though18:18
keriomaybe it's buffers?18:18
DocScrutinizer05kerio: this is a FIREWALL18:19
DocScrutinizer05wtf should it buffer?18:19
DocScrutinizer05 /dev/hda1             1.4G  439M  896M  33% /18:20
DocScrutinizer05 /dev/mapper/local-config                       99M  4.6M   89M   5% /var/efw18:21
DocScrutinizer05 /dev/mapper/local-log                      2.8G  115M  2.5G   5% /var/log18:21
DocScrutinizer05any questions?18:21
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DocScrutinizer05somebody, dunno was it xes, khm, or wirr, mentioned full virtualization vs paravirtualization, and possible incompatibilities between the VMs NIC kernel driver and the hosts XEN NIC emulation18:25
DocScrutinizer05afk, bbl18:26
n900-dkbut isn't there a configured limit for total number of connections in the endian fw? Or is it only limited by ram?18:26
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Ex-OpesaHi. I am facing some issue with kasvopus, whenever I run the program, it shows "error loading page". Wifi is working fine. While on the other n900 it is working very well. :S18:37
Ex-OpesaI have tried google but couldn't find the solution18:40
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romaxafreemangordon: ping19:03
freemangordonromaxa: pong19:03
romaxafreemangordon: I guess clipping still required, because for example if you add this code, as in example, then it will over-paint toolbar...19:04
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romaxafreemangordon: also glClear need to be calculated properly in order to not overpaint toolbar context19:05
freemangordonromaxa: I guess we can fix it by setting the correct rectangle to be composited on, now it always starts at 0,019:05
freemangordonre glClear - yes, I think to enable GL_SCISSOR_TEST before glClear19:06
freemangordonromaxa: BTW I found why QGLContext::currentContext() is NULL19:07
freemangordonon fremantle you need to show() the widget for it to be created19:08
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freemangordonI guess it is the same on desktop, though I can;t test it19:08
romaxafreemangordon: ah ok... on desktop we don't do GL rendering because GLX provider does not know how to render into existing context19:10
freemangordonromaxa: I was thinking to move if (QGLContext::currentContext()) {d->mContext->GetApp()->SetIsAccelerated(true); } from constructor to event(QEvent* event) and do the check in case QEvent::Show:19:10
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freemangordonromaxa: any objections?19:11
romaxafreemangordon: no objections19:11
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freemangordonromaxa: ok, will push to directly, as I need that fixed in order to be able to make further pull requests19:12
romaxafreemangordon: - I tried this code, it works on portrait mode but not on landscape :)... need to do some debugging, if you can make function which render background color there would be nice19:13
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romaxafreemangordon: you can push gsreamer changes19:14
freemangordonromaxa: exactly the code I was thining of :D. however, I guess you need to swap width/heigth (and maybe x/y)19:14
freemangordonromaxa: I did a pull request, you mean to merge it?19:15
freemangordon(for gstreamer)19:15
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romaxafreemangordon: I was hoping that QTransform mapping from painter would do that19:16
romaxafreemangordon: but I guess I need to take original not transformed view rectangle apply transform and do some magic19:16
romaxafreemangordon: need to go at work, btw, I guess it would make sense keep most of discussions on #embedlite channel regarding embedlite (
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freemangordonromaxa: aah, ok, I was not aware of that channel, will join19:18
freemangordonis it on freenode?19:18
freemangordonscratch that :)19:18
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eccerr0rthis switchover downtime is killing me... heh...20:54
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eccerr0rsince is down, what's the easiest way to root my n900?21:39
infobothmm... mirror is
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eccerr0rI tried those mirrors and got the "Ignoring wrong version" problem... I saw a post to remove /var/lib/hildon-application-manager/domain.* but that needs root...21:43
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kerioeccerr0r: why do you need root?21:48
kerioeccerr0r: the best way would be to install openssh from extras21:52
keriothat'll prompt for a root password21:52
keriothen ssh localhost21:52
keriothen configure sudo as you wish21:52
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eccerr0rI can't seem to sync the mirrors because of apparently invalid data in /var/lib/hildon-application/manager...21:54
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eccerr0rsince I can't sync... can't install openssh (which was the intent :)21:56
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infobotmethinks mirror is
wirrany mirror for skeiron repos don't seem to have flasher-3.5 :-(22:06
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keriowirr: dammit, there was one22:08
kerioeccerr0r: what repos do you have enabled right now?22:08
eccerr0rtried skeiron free and free22:10
kerio...for what?22:10
eccerr0rfremantle ?22:10
keriolist *all the repos* that you have enabled right now22:10
eccerr0rthis is the issue I'm seeing:
kerioeccerr0r: i am aware of the issue22:12
keriothat's why i asked WHICH REPOS YOU HAVE ENABLED RIGHT NOW22:12
eccerr0rI'm new to this so I don't understand what you're asking for...22:12
kerio"skeiron" can mean at least 20 different repos22:13
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eccerr0r ?22:13
keriothat would be one repo22:14
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keriodo you have cssu installed right now?22:14
eccerr0rNo.  This is a fresh machine, has never been synced before22:15
keriothen disable that repo *right now*22:15
kerioyou probably meant fremantle free non-free22:15
eccerr0rahh okay.22:16
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kerioanyway, deleting the domain information won't help with the *new* domain info that ham creates whenever you install or upgrade something22:17
kerioto permanently nullify that, enable HAM's redpill mode and disable "ignore packages with wrong domain"22:17
eccerr0rcool, that looks better now.  I haven't really used debian-line linuxes at all, really need to look into this some more.22:20
brkni guess this is what you are looking for:
kerioif you know your way around linux, i strongly advise against not using HAM except for the system upgrades (and even then...) and only use apt-get, it's much faster22:21
kerioif you know your way around linux and are prepared, that is22:21
keriobeing prepared = having a backup22:21
kerioso install backupmenu!22:21
kerioit's good!22:21
wirrbrkn: thanks, but unfortunately not: only up to v3.022:21
keriowirr: D:22:22
wirrbrkn, oh, sorry, didn't see the second link your posted22:22
keriowell, isn't 3.5 the one for the n900?22:22
brknwirr: basically everything should be there22:23
kerioeccerr0r: disclaimer - by entering redpill mode, you swear to not complain when ALL YO SHIT A SPLODE or perhaps something minor stops working until you fudge with it a bit22:23
brknstructure is 1:1 what has been on
wirrbrkn: yep seems complete22:23
eccerr0rheh. thanks for the warning.22:23
brknoh and check md5 if you don't trust the files22:23
kerioeccerr0r: but seriously, make backups22:23
wirrdon't know why i ran into a dead link at first22:23
wirrbut hey, it's computers22:23
wirror me22:24
kerioeccerr0r: install "backupmenu"22:24
eccerr0ryeah, there's tons of stuff I need to install :D22:24
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wirranyone, do you disable extras-testing and extras-devel when running on cssu-thumb?22:24
keriowirr: of course not22:25
keriowell, i disable extras-testing22:25
keriobecause extras-devel is a superset, and it would be a waste of resources22:25
wirrkerio, makes sense22:26
wirrwas just wondering if older, but thumb-compiled releases from cssu-thumb could get upgraded to newer non-thumb binaries from extras-devel22:27
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wirror do you use apt-pinning to prevent that?22:27
keriowirr: the only candidate for that would be busybox-power22:28
kerioor fennec, if someone decided to update the fennec in extras-devel22:28
eccerr0rhmm... need to find a microsd card...22:28
keriosome of the other packages are in "competition" with cssu-testing though, considering cssu-thumb's status as an addon22:28
kerioso between cssu-testing's update and cssu-thumb's update there's a window of time in which you'd upgrade to a non-thumb package from a thumb package22:29
keriounless you've disabled the HAM domain check, HAM won't let you do that22:29
wirri don't use ham22:29
kerioand i pin cssu-thumb at 600 priority via /etc/apt/preferences22:29
wirryep, sounds like the only sane way of having all those repos enabled at the same time22:30
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chem|stfsckers Repo notice on TMO is now PERSISTANT!22:30
keriowirr: "Package: *" "Pin: release a=community-thumb" "Pin-Priority: 600" in three consecutive lines22:30
keriowirr: also, might want to update, set the priority to 1600 and see what you're prompted to downgrade by apt-get upgrade22:32
kerio(over 1000, and apt-get will actively try to downgrade)22:32
kerio(so don't keep it at 1600, just do a check to see if something should be downgraded and why)22:33
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wirrthat's a good hint.. let me check that22:35
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kerioeccerr0r: backupmenu lets you backup on the internal vfat partition22:37
wirrkerio, for extras-devel I have to use "l=extras-devel" instead of "a=extras-devel", right?22:38
keriowirr: why do you want to pin extras-devel? :o22:38
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wirron my debian box i usually explicitly list all suites... extras-devel would get a lower prio, of course22:39
keriowirr: Suite: is still a=22:39
keriobtw, use extras-devel-light :)22:39
kerio fremantle free non-free22:39
wirryep, but for Extras-devel: Suite is fremantle... "devel" is just in the label22:39
kerioit supports pdiffs22:39
keriowirr: then it's l= i suppose22:40
kerioi'm using merlin's extras-devel, and it's Suite: Extras-devel-light22:40
keriobut really, why? i'd keep extras-devel as the default22:40
kerioand increase cssu/nokia ssu maybe22:40
wirractually, that's what I'm using :-)22:40
wirrnokia ssu? you really expect updates from there?22:40
kerioyou're the one worried about packages overwriting each other22:41
keriocertainly it should be at a higher priority than extras22:41
wirralright, alright, i agree :-)22:41
kerioi just upgrade everything from extras-devel, cssu-devel, cssu-thumb and cssu-testing22:42
kerioit's not a bleeding edge, it's not even grown yet22:42
wirr:) but... usable?22:43
kerioit's not for the faint at heart22:43
keriobut meh22:43
wirri've been realising that i spend more time on tweaking flashing tinkering that device than actually _using_ it...22:44
keriowhat do you mean by "using" it?22:44
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keriotinkering is certainly using22:45
keriowirr: right now, cssu-devel would make me downgrade 38 packages, and only upgrade 522:45
wirrkerio, using as in writing emails, surfing the web, maybe even make a phone call22:47
keriophone calls? the n900 can do that? :O22:47
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kerioyou discover something new every day!22:47
wirr:-) actually I don't have a sim22:47
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wirrkerio, actually you're right: no downgrades proposed even with cssu-thumb at 1600 - not even busybox-power22:58
kerioyeah, the latest version is thumbified22:58
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FIQwhere should I report OS issues which doesn't stem from cssu?23:54
FIQit's kind of minor23:55
keriowhat is it?23:55
FIQif you send a SMS and the phone lacks sms central settings, it does (at least in swedish locale) print out something like: Error sending text message: Central number not found (Yes/No)23:56
FIQwithout really asking a question23:56
FIQyes lets me edit the settings, but the msg looks a bit weird23:56
kerioa bug report against rtcom-messaging-l10n-sese maybe23:57
kerioor something23:57
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FIQ(the message was translated so it might not be word by word what it says but I guess all localizations have this issue)23:57
keriono, svse23:57
FIQhmmmmmm o23:57
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