IRC log of #maemo for Wednesday, 2013-01-09

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* grummund trying to get SIP working without much success00:18
MrPinguAnybody had an issue with wlan, always returning network error until reboot?00:18
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MrPinguRare issue, only encountered it twice00:22
kerioDocScrutinizer05: ^00:22
MrPingukerio: sounds familiar?00:22
keriodoc had that at least once00:23
MrPinguunloading and reloading modules of wl12xx didn't help00:23
keriotried restarting icd2?00:23
MrPingunah that not00:23
MrPinguIt's been some time I encountered it, but just remembered it...00:24
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MrPingudmesg spitted out something like: link not ready00:28
DocScrutinizer05MrPingu: I've seen such issues with WLAN when some race/coincidence happened between I guess reauthenticating at AP and leaving range of AP00:29
NeutrinoPowergrummund: since I own a N900 I phonecalled only with sipgate, I still haven't a sim-card00:29
DocScrutinizer05NeutrinoPower: hey, then one of the N900 with defect modem was a good and cheap alternative for you00:30
NeutrinoPoweroh thank you for the tip00:30
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DocScrutinizer05btw sipgate working rather fine here as well00:31
grummundNeutrinoPower: same here... sipgate and no sim00:31
DocScrutinizer05I even occasionally do SIP calls ober UMTS (O2)00:32
NeutrinoPowerbut maybe hspa-access is awesome? I don't know00:32
DocScrutinizer05while outbound works fine, inbound not often does00:33
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grummundhmm, sipgate not working from my draytek voip router either, so N900 is not the problem00:35
WizardNumberNextMrPingu, I did get it few times on undervolt - it is gone while on 600MHz on 1.125v00:36
WizardNumberNextMrPingu, I mean wifi issue00:36
grummunddo i need credit on the account in order to dial in?  i just get number busy.00:38
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WizardNumberNextfreemangordon, could you give me some leads about initrd contents, please?01:34
WizardNumberNextand btw, mtd4 seams to be empty (I didn't see it all yet), so it looks like it could be used for omething?01:35
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kerioWizardNumberNext: hysterical raisins01:38
keriomtd4 is, indeed, not used01:38
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kerioinstead, we've got that fucking preinit mess01:39
WizardNumberNextkerio: historical reasons ;) nice one, yeah insted we have foolish combo of kernel and initrd in one mtd partition01:40
WizardNumberNextI liked mtd use on AR7 (as well TI creation)01:40
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WizardNumberNextwhat about IR? is it really working? I have tried it on to different devices (Sony SRT-KLS40 (sir protocol if I remember right) and some rubish made TV (RC-5)) and none seams to be working01:49
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TheorboAnyone here in Japan?01:53
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DocScrutinizer05grummund: draytek vigot modemrouter known to have borked SIP-ALG. Try to disable it (some tricky invocation via telnet iirc)01:58
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grummundboth the draytek and the N900 will register and show online on the sipgate status page02:05
DocScrutinizer05yeah, and that's where problems already start02:06
grummundtest calls to sipgate test no. 10000 work using the N90002:06
DocScrutinizer05 sys sip_alg02:06
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DocScrutinizer05 sys sip_alg 002:06
grummundk. lemme grab that link02:07
DocScrutinizer05>> Kevin Hi Tonnie The document assumes that you start off from factory defaults. By default the SIP ALG should start disabled. It should be left disabled. However you can manually disable the SIP ALG by logging onto the Draytek using telnet, and issuing the command: sys sip_alg 002:08
DocScrutinizer05btw draytek vigot SIP-ALG known to be broken since ~2005, I'm amazed it still is02:10
DocScrutinizer05dang - vigor*02:11
grummundbtw the draytek works fine with voipfone02:11
grummundmaybe i should try with voipfone on the N90002:12
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DocScrutinizer05you should try with N900 as exposed-host, sometimes also incorrectly called DMZ02:13
DocScrutinizer05the problem with vigor basically is its NAT (symmetric NAT) as well as ALG02:15
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grummundhmm, how to run multiple xterms?02:19
DocScrutinizer05Furthermore, only the external host that receives a packet can       send a UDP packet back to the internal host.02:19
DocScrutinizer05grummund: "new" in menu02:19
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grummundthanks didn't notice the menu there ;)02:21
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grummundmaemo has no telnet?02:24
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DocScrutinizer05err, in xterm?02:29
DocScrutinizer05hmm, no telnet binary, busybox-power seems to have it. probably in tools-repo you also find telnet I guess02:31
infobotmethinks pkg is
RiDbots are not capable of thinking02:33
RiDare you enslaving someone to make the "bot" work?02:33
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DocScrutinizer05grummund:  or enable extras-devel catalog02:36
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DocScrutinizer05grummund: etc02:39
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DocScrutinizer05   https://secure.
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grummund2600v is the one i have but voipfone sip is working fine with it already02:42
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Jef91What is the best way to compile software for Maemo? Is there a straight forward method of setting up a chroot I can just build packages in?02:49
DocScrutinizer05>>I have had nothing but trouble getting my sipgate account to work with this router and despite communication with sipgate and draytek, neither were able to solve the problem. I finally managed to solve it myself after many hours of frustration<<02:49
DocScrutinizer05Jef91: get scratchbox02:50
Jef91Is that a cross compiling tool DocScrutinizer05?02:50
DocScrutinizer05yes, basically02:50
Jef91What about if I have a fairly snappy ARM machine I'd like to compile natively on DocScrutinizer05?02:51
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Jef91thanks DocScrutinizer0502:53
Jef91Going to see if I can get my Pandora radio application working since PYRadio is now dead.02:53
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DocScrutinizer05Jef91: you might consider using the VM:
DocScrutinizer05you'll probably need to update stuff inside that VM, I heard it's kinda ... old.03:04
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stardivinerWhat is "cellular network" on N900 ? Is there a wiki for this ?06:40
DocScrutinizer05~wiki cellphone06:42
infobotAt (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{Use dmy dates|date=November 2012}} {{Redirect|Cell Phone|the film|Cell Phone (film)|the Handphone film|Handphone (film)}} {{pp-semi-protected|small=yes}} QCP-2700, a mid-1990s candybar style phone, and an iPhone 4S, a current production smartphone.]] A 'mobile phone' (also known as a 'cellular phone', 'cell phone' and a 'hand phone') is a device that can make and receive telephone ...06:42
uncloudedwhat's the name of the package I need to "apt-get source ..." the stock Maemo kernel?06:48
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DocScrutinizer05kernel-maemo, kernel-modules-maemo, I guess06:51
uncloudedI think kernel-maemo is the old name for kernel-power?06:54
DocScrutinizer05might be right06:54
uncloudedeven the kernel-bootimg package says: Source: kernel-bootimg06:55
uncloudedand is about 5K when downloaded with apt-get source06:55
DocScrutinizer05ask pali or freemangordon06:55
DocScrutinizer05or moh06:56
uncloudedor maybe what I want has been done already: an ext4 module for the stock kernel?06:56
DocScrutinizer05too long ago I dealt with that06:56
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DocScrutinizer05you might find something in paulfertser's branch of hostmode kernel on hen.garage.maemo.org07:00
DocScrutinizer05it has a clean kernel with only Nokia patches on top, as a basis07:01
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DocScrutinizer05unclouded: you'll need git for that one07:07
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DocScrutinizer05unless you plan to wget;a=tree;h=a2abd51199b9e61542a24ae9086ac1c6263106c4;hb=a2abd51199b9e61542a24ae9086ac1c6263106c407:08
stardivinerDocScrutinizer05: thanks07:08
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DocScrutinizer05unclouded: the also should be something more official, I recall I've seen mxr.maemo.orh once07:11
DocScrutinizer05you should be able to find out on which git it is based07:12
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uncloudedthere's an rx51_tiny_defconfig there as well as rx51_defconfig!07:16
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Jef91Anyone setup a maemo scratch recently? The instructions here -> aren't going smoothly on my Ubuntu 12.04 install10:26
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Jef91nvm, got it going10:33
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spoofyHello! o/12:22
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thedead1440yay so finally works; did it start working quite some while ago?14:27
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DocScrutinizer05thedead1440: it works on new IP16:05
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DocScrutinizer05thedead1440: or are you saying Nemein adjusted the DNS record to point to the working wiki now?16:32
DocScrutinizer05err nope, not yet16:33
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DocScrutinizer05teotwaki: been you the mxr.m.o guy?16:40
DocScrutinizer05then I guess it's been timeless16:40
DocScrutinizer05timeless:, any info?16:41
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thedead1440DocScrutinizer05: i am not using your hosts file and it still works hence my surprise16:50
DocScrutinizer05what do you mean by "works"? Sorry can't test easily now, since my hosts *is* redirected16:50
thedead1440login and edit works16:51
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thedead1440ah false alarm16:51
DocScrutinizer05well, seems somebody backported the fix from new to obsolete server16:51
thedead1440just found something in my hosts file: wiki.maemo.org16:51
thedead1440so in my sleep I used your hosts file's edit somehow :p16:52
thedead1440i can't remember too why i did that :S16:52
DocScrutinizer05maybe ~jrtools lured you in?16:52
infobotcp /etc/hosts /etc/hosts-maemobackup && echo "" >> /etc/hosts;
thedead1440oh yes it must be that16:52
thedead1440you were parroting it a number of times i remember16:52
thedead1440anyway its good I can get some important edits done now. Thanks for it!16:53
DocScrutinizer05I'm honestly feeling relieved that we don't have TWO editable wikis now16:54
DocScrutinizer05would've created next nightmare16:54
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timelessDocScrutinizer05: which part of it?17:01
timelessi think someone broke the dns17:01
timelessiirc it's somewhere near
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timelessooh, err17:02
timelessput that on an s diet?17:02
DocScrutinizer05timeless: we're about to backup stuff for mxr is derived data, but we might want to backup the magic behind it17:05
DocScrutinizer05so you say is just a redirect to that URL you mentioned?17:05
DocScrutinizer05(sorry for laziness, I probably could check the IPs but my etc/hosts makes that a tad cumbersome)17:06
timelessit's a cname for timeless.justdave.net17:06
timelesswhich responds differently when you visit it by that hostname17:06
DocScrutinizer05but the host is, not
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DocScrutinizer05so I could consider it "safe" for now?17:08
DocScrutinizer05timeless: ^^^17:10
DocScrutinizer05I.E. the server is not one of those Nokia will tear down soonish?17:11
DocScrutinizer05good :-)17:11
timelessit's actually dreamhost17:11
timelessas long as you can cname it, it works17:11
DocScrutinizer05oh yeah, don't get me started on DNS17:11 is a vacant position obviously17:12
timelessoh, the dns isn't dead yet17:16
DocScrutinizer05nope, the DNS are all under Nokia control still - and *only* under Nokia control17:17
merlin1991oh shit: merlin1991: Posts: 81 | Thanked: 666 times17:18
lufmerlin1991: too low values?17:18
merlin1991look at the thankscount ;)17:18
DocScrutinizer05meh, gimme a link and I'll make that 66717:19
merlin1991 hm you could fix it there :D17:19
DocScrutinizer05I'm more concerned that you broke my record of 6.x thanks per post17:20
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lufmerlin1991: 668 ;)17:21
merlin1991damn I felt so powerfull and evil, now it's all gone17:21
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lufmerlin1991: this should be your goal ;)  freemangordon  7th Jan 2013 , 14:46 Posts: 1,990 | Thanked: 7,582 times | Joined on Mar 201017:23
GeneralAntillesKarmic competition.17:24
* GeneralAntilles remembers when there were no Thanks!17:24
tadzikthere were two buttons: "Thanks!" and "No, thanks"17:26
GeneralAntilles"No, thanks" would end badly.17:27
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon is cheating ;-P17:30
merlin1991well not so much17:30
merlin1991his ratio is below 4 because he posts so much :D17:30
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DocScrutinizer05I wish I had posted #1 of some threads that I initiated17:31
thedead1440check MohammadAG's out too ;) Posts: 2,454 | Thanked: 11,967 times |17:31
DocScrutinizer05moh got more thanks for h-e-n than me ;-P17:31
lufmerlin1991: :D from thanks -> ratio? what next?17:32
DocScrutinizer05GeneralAntilles: accepted?17:32
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merlin1991luf: thanks / # of posts17:33
lufI understand ;)17:33
GeneralAntillesDocScrutinizer05, hmm?17:33
GeneralAntillesAh, yeah.17:34
GeneralAntillesJust needs to be voted on.17:34
DocScrutinizer05I hope that's just formal!17:34
DocScrutinizer05so already congrats from me (and whole council)17:35
RST38hDoc: So, is it HF?Or is it CO? Or are we getting all kinky and using DF? =)17:36
merlin1991wtf are you 2 on about?17:36
merlin1991now 3 :D17:37
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spoofyDocScrutinizer05: Hi! ;)17:42
spoofyWhen the garage.maemo will be available?17:42
spoofyI have a newest and fully working version of nmap17:43
DocScrutinizer05RST38h: I guess you're kidding me17:44
DocScrutinizer05merlin1991: HiFo searching for new Communication officer17:45
DocScrutinizer05~#maemo DNS is and
infobotokay, DocScrutinizer0517:47
DocScrutinizer05spoofy: ^^^ please try that17:47
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DocScrutinizer05spoofy: for now the "old" garage will never again come up, and "new" garage may or may not work already, but for sure will be available under the URL no sooner than HiFo owns/controls the maemo domain17:48
spoofyUgh. So you have some serious problems with migration17:49
DocScrutinizer05the main problem we have right now is Nokia not transfering domain control to HiFo17:50
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LinuxCodeno surprise there17:51
* DocScrutinizer05 deletes a line about a new insulting domain name to be used when that doesn't work out well in the end17:51
spoofyOkey. But why? When did HiFo start to talk with nokia guys?17:51
LinuxCodeDocScrutinizer05, let me guess, they have the TM for maemo, so want to keep hold of the domain too17:52
LinuxCodeas business asset17:52
DocScrutinizer05spoofy: for sure no sooner than HiFo got established17:52
spoofynokia wankers...17:52
DocScrutinizer05LinuxCode: that's exactly what hiFo and Nokia lawyers(!) are talking about17:53
DocScrutinizer05I need to establish a best practice for HiFo board to CC council on their negotiations17:54
spoofyUgh. I know that this is not a good moment but can someone contact with onion router developers? We need a tor client update.17:54
DocScrutinizer05spoofy: everybody looking at *you*17:55
spoofyUgh. Okey.17:55
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spoofyThere's just a few things to finish pwniephone image.17:56
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keriospoofy: how "image" is your image?19:47
spoofykerio: what?19:49
spoofykerio: I'm making a image - snapshot to backup via backupmenu19:49
spoofylike in pwniephone19:49
kerioa tarball can't really be called image imo19:50
spoofyWith scripts that can be called "installers"? I think it can be called image ;)19:50
spoofykerio: maybe you prefered to pack this via jpeg or tiff? :P19:52
kerioan image is something that you write 1:1 on a storage device19:52
spoofyyeah.. and?19:52
spoofyUgh.. nevermind. I update many things on maemo like ruby, subversion, nmap, metasploit19:53
spoofyso ppp will be great ;)19:55
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WizardNumberNexthello huys20:38
freemangordonWizardNumberNext: hi, how is 3.8 going?20:38
WizardNumberNextI have one question about bq27x00_battery driver.  CURRENT_NOW, CHARGE_NOW, CHARGE_FULL are those in uA or some raw values?20:39
WizardNumberNextquite good - I lost track of patches, because of reboot20:40
WizardNumberNextbut, quite few patches didn't apply, because they were already there and some had be to moved to other places20:40
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freemangordonhmm, what wa already there? bqxxx stuff?20:41
WizardNumberNextI made changes in patches itself as well, so I can send it back later on, when it would be finished20:41
WizardNumberNextI am around 4020:41
WizardNumberNextrx51 ir, charger, bq2xxxxx20:41
freemangordonthose are already upstreamed20:42
WizardNumberNextyes somewhere around 40th patch20:42
WizardNumberNextI know, as I said some good to vanilia kernel already20:42
WizardNumberNextI am bit worried about API, but we shall see20:42
WizardNumberNextif, API would be changed, then I would read changes and see if i can fix that (i am not good programmer, but still can fix some stuff and write patches and programms)20:44
WizardNumberNextfreemangordon, so do you know if those values in bq27x00 are in uA?20:45
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PaliWizardNumberNext, uA, uV, or uAh20:45
Palilook to Documentations/power in linux git tree20:46
WizardNumberNextPali, so those are in real uV and uA and uAh? If so, then it is really nice20:46
WizardNumberNexthello MrPingu20:46
WizardNumberNextPali: I would have to pull pk source to see it20:47
WizardNumberNextI am bit lazy20:47
PaliI think it is u* ot m* values20:47
Paliit should be u*20:47
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WizardNumberNextPali: all would be in micro-something, because values are in thousands (like 4123123 for voltage20:49
WizardNumberNextBTW biggest CHARGE_FULL ever got, guys?20:50
PaliCHARGE_FULL is bad on n90020:50
infobotPali meant: CHARGE_DESIGN is bad on n90020:50
WizardNumberNextas long as I was using BME as charge, I wasn't getting beyond 79xxxx20:51
WizardNumberNextnow with one of batteries I got 126449420:51
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Paliyou need to calibrate battery20:51
Paliotherwise values will be incorrect20:51
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WizardNumberNextPali: I do, I do not use scripts, buer I got this power-something package for statusbar and changed from BME to bq27200 there and now I am getting to voltages like 3.2v before shutdown20:53
kerioadvanced power monitor, probably20:53
WizardNumberNextchip is self-calibrating (at least this is what datasheet says)20:53
WizardNumberNextkerio: you might be right20:54
freemangordonAPM? isn;t that a piece of crap?20:54
freemangordonWizardNumberNext: it is self-calibrating, but BME does not allow it ti calibrate20:54
keriowell, if you're lucky you might get to EDV1 for enough time20:54
kerioi think20:55
WizardNumberNextfreemangordon: it works better then BME, so it is better then nothing, but if you know something better I would jump right on it20:55
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* freemangordon uses BME and waits Pali to finish with BME replacement stuff 20:55
WizardNumberNextI noticedd that BME doesn't allow it to calibrate (voltage never falls to approparaite level)20:55
keriofreemangordon: the bme replacement WORKSFORME20:56
freemangordonkerio: KP is still not released20:56
keriokp52 also WORKSFORME20:57
WizardNumberNextwhat's new in KP52?20:57
Palikp is not released because extras-devel not working20:57
freemangordonkerio: sure, but I have enough development stuff on my device20:57
freemangordonPali: I know :)20:57
kerionotably, bridge interfaces20:57
Palialso there is final ipv6 support20:58
freemangordonactually I am wating for kernel in CSSU :D20:58
Palion my hdd20:58
lufKP52 ... what about my bug report?20:58
Palifreemangordon, migrated wiki is working :-)20:58
freemangordonPali: yep, but I was on certs, tklock, obexftp, what else? these days :)20:58
lufPali: ^^^?20:59
WizardNumberNextkerio: does it mean it would be possible to implement hostapd on N900?20:59
Paliluf, edit /etc/hosts20:59
PaliWizardNumberNext, no20:59
kerioafaik you can't hostap because of the hardware20:59
Paliour wifi driver has not AP mode20:59
lufPali: KP52 ... what about my bug report?20:59
kerioyou can do that with ad-hoc mode ofc20:59
keriobut you only need iptables for that20:59
WizardNumberNextwait - let me se what linuxwireless is telling about it - maybe it is possible21:00
kerioand that's been in kernel-power for ages21:00
WizardNumberNextI do not want ad-hoc - WPA doesn't work in ad-hoc21:00
PaliWizardNumberNext, wl1251 kernel driver has no AP mode :-(21:00
freemangordonPali: iirc firmware supports AP mode, it is the driver that does not supports it. might be wrong though21:00
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PaliWizardNumberNext, WPA2 working in ad-hoc too21:00
keriowell, maybe the drivers that support injection could work21:00
WizardNumberNexthow is that?21:00
Palilook at wpa_supplicant example configuration21:00
Palibut on maemo you need to turn off wlancond and install wpa_supplicant21:01
WizardNumberNextbut WPA needs RADIUS server (which is in hostapd)21:01
PaliI mean WPA-PSK21:01
Palinot EAP21:01
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PaliRADIUS server is needed for WPA-EAP21:01
Palifreemangordon, no21:02
Palifirmware does not support AP mode21:02
WizardNumberNexteven WPA-PSK still uses embedded radius - at least it looks like it - I see kernel messages on my server (I have two AP on it)21:02
Palionly HW has support21:02
freemangordonPali: ok21:02
Palibut firmware was not released (maybe not exists)21:02
Paliwl1251 is in maemo21:02
Paliwl1271 *has* AP mode21:03
SpeedEvilwould be great21:03
WizardNumberNextactually I was thinking about making it possible to stay connected to my private WLAN and at same tiume use 3G21:03
freemangordonPali: did someone try firmware from HARM?21:03
Palibut wl1251 hw is different as wl127121:03
SpeedEvilwrt android 4.2 not doing ad hoc21:03
Palifreemangordon, will not work21:03
Paliwl1251 and wl1271 are very different21:03
kerioWizardNumberNext: it's possible21:04
kerioit's just not supported by the UI and/or ICD221:04
WizardNumberNextI know - it is only up to software21:04
Paliand now wl1251 is old HW and TI does not supporting it :-(21:04
WizardNumberNextI use Linux on server, desktop and laptop, so I am quite experienced in it21:04
PaliWizardNumberNext, do you using WPA-EAP with hostapd?21:05
Palion server?21:05
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WizardNumberNextwait I am just thinking about NETGEAR router - something like DGsomething - it have wl125121:05
WizardNumberNextand it works in AP21:05
WizardNumberNextPali: no I use WPA-PSK with hostapd21:06
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WizardNumberNextI was to lazy to set up WPA-PSK there, but it is planned21:06
Paliif it has TI wl1251 and AP working, can you share linux kernel with firmware?21:06
WizardNumberNextDG638v2 I suppose21:06
Palilinux with sources?21:06
WizardNumberNextand there are soureces for it as well21:07
WizardNumberNextfor whole lot! not only kernel21:07
Pali2 years ago I tried to find FW for wl1251 with AP mode but nothing21:07
WizardNumberNextI have it somewhere on server - give me sec and I would get back with more knowlegde21:07
PaliI did not find anything...21:07
WizardNumberNextBTW look it up on openwrt21:08
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WizardNumberNextNetgear DG834v221:09
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PaliWizardNumberNext, also please check again if it has Texas Instruments wifi chip wl125121:09
PaliI still did not belive that there is AP support in wl1251...21:09
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Paliping lxp21:13
Palilxp, has wl1251 AP mode?21:14
WizardNumberNextPali I am pretty sure, but cannot guaranty it21:14
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Palilxp worked on wl1251 kernel driver, maybe will know something more21:15
lxpnot yet, but it should be possible21:16
Palilxp, is there firmware with AP mode support?21:16
lxpi think there is one around, but i don't have it21:16
lxpyou can always use softap21:16
lxpbut it needs to be supported by the driver21:17
PaliI did not find any FW with AP mode...21:17
Paliwhat is softap?ň21:17
WizardNumberNextit is AP working on software only21:17
lxpi haven't tested it myself but i think most ap drivers works with hostapd nowadays21:17
lxpsry i meant most drivers supporting ap mode use hostapd21:18
WizardNumberNextnot much of use, but I run my APs on RaLink RT2561s and RT307021:18
lxphostapd supports mac80211 drivers -> wl1251 is a mac80211 driver21:19
lxpas far as i know the driver only needs to support a special ap mode which is nothing more than monitor mode+injection21:19
lxpbut i haven't experimented with it21:20
Palilxp, did you tried to upstream your changes in wl1251 again?21:23
Paliversion of wl1251 in maemo kernel has still better power management as in upstream kernels or your packet injection version21:24
lxpno, i haven't finished the reimplementation which could eventually get accepted upstream21:25
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lxpare you talking about the 0.2 version or 0.1 version of my packet injection driver?21:26
lxp0.2 includes some fixes which may affect power management21:26
Palirun for current21:28
WizardNumberNextPali: I think I might be wrong about this router - most probably this wireless predates wl1251 and I cannot seam to find it to support any SPI or I2C (don't remeber which bus it is sitting on)21:28
MrPinguWizardNumberNext: I can't find any info about Netgear DG834v2 is using wl 125121:29
WizardNumberNextMrPingu: it looks like I got it wrong21:29
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lxpPali: this is interesting, if you tested in managed mode with fully activated power saving then there must be some change i haven't noticed... it's somehow sad that nokia didn't upstream the maemo changes for wl125121:37
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WizardNumberNextPali, MrPingu: I am not sure if acx and wl1251 are the same devices or not - need to see on N900 schematics - get back after extensive search, if I would find what I am looking for21:43
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WizardNumberNextBTW where wifi chip is located on N900?21:45
WizardNumberNextnext to SIM?21:46
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DocScrutinizer05WizardNumberNext: /hidden/docs/hw/Nokia_N900_RX-51_Schematics.pdf22:02
WizardNumberNextI already have schematics, but cannot p[rint it for some strange reason (is this one printable?)22:03
DocScrutinizer05please never post full URL (to hide it from spiders)22:03
DocScrutinizer05dunno, i'd think it is, at least in some non-adobe pdf readers22:03
WizardNumberNextI won't post it anywhere - I wish to keep this copy where it is22:03
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WizardNumberNextlooks like it is printable - printer just woke up22:06
DocScrutinizer05there's a component placement on last 2 or 3 pages22:06
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fastaIs the wifi chip on the N900 of high quality or something like that? I have another device which is 2 years newer and has much worse reception while it's even bigger.23:00
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fastaThe one in my laptop is even better, but considering that it's only a phone, it's quite good.23:01
fastaI thought wifi chips were commodity chips now, but apparently not all are created equally.23:02
fastaIt would be interesting to have scientific data on the various vendors.23:02
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DocScrutinizer51kerio: what's been the suggestion to revive 2G data connectivity?23:33
DocScrutinizer51kerio: what's been the suggestion to revive 2G data connectivity?23:34
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kerioidk, reboot23:35
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DocScrutinizer51didn't you suggest killall ICD2 or sth23:36
DocScrutinizer51or csd23:36
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keriowell, yes23:50
keriorestart both ICD2 and sscd23:50
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