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| Drathir | why repos cant be fetch by https, but oonly works http? | 06:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe because of expired certs? | 06:36 |
| Drathir | ok i will check but not sure but 404 error get... | 06:41 |
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| xman | hello | 08:29 |
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| xman | 中文可以吗 | 08:32 |
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| Pali | can somebody backup http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/d6.php ? | 09:10 |
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| kerio | wtf is /dev/input/4, and why do i have trillions of lines related to it in my syslog? | 14:38 |
| kerio | and did it drain my battery? | 14:38 |
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| kerio | er, /dev/input/event4 | 14:41 |
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| kerio | it's the second time i had an unexplicable power draw | 14:43 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: how do i configure powertop? | 14:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | configure? | 14:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, HAVE to run | 14:44 |
| kerio | typical >:c | 14:45 |
| SpeedEvil | there is no configure, only do! | 14:47 |
| SpeedEvil | to paraphrase Yoda. | 14:47 |
| SpeedEvil | run it, lock screen, wait 45 seconds | 14:47 |
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| kerio | status: Unknown job: pmtrackerdaemon | 14:50 |
| kerio | Mounting debugfs...FAILED | 14:50 |
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| kerio | meh, restarting it worked | 14:54 |
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| Creteil | Hi all | 16:02 |
| Creteil | Can someone have a look at http://maemo.org/packages/view/john/ | 16:03 |
| Creteil | Why even the new version was successfully compiled, I can't update the version with a simple apt-get update && apt-get upgrade on the device ? | 16:03 |
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| kerio | Creteil: because the update wasn't pushed | 16:17 |
| Creteil | kerio, thanks, I just see the update was pushed right now ... Thanks for the help ... | 16:18 |
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| Macer | hm | 17:00 |
| Macer | you guys might know this | 17:00 |
| Macer | what would someone call that has pin terminals for a standard sized gpio pin | 17:01 |
| Macer | female on both sides? | 17:01 |
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| FIQ | huh | 17:28 |
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| FIQ | my phone somehow went from fully working OS to non-bootable OS w/o even modifying system files (at least by myself) | 17:28 |
| FIQ | now that's something new | 17:28 |
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| FIQ | Er | 17:28 |
| kerio | FIQ: well | 17:29 |
| FIQ | Seems like bootmenu successfully boots maemo, but not using it didn't | 17:29 |
| FIQ | w/e | 17:29 |
| kerio | what did you do? | 17:29 |
| FIQ | hmm | 17:29 |
| FIQ | The only significant thing I did was modifying ~/.profile a little | 17:29 |
| FIQ | But I can't see how that would render the system unbootable | 17:30 |
| FIQ | (the other things I did was running ntpd and gpSP) | 17:30 |
| FIQ | i'll try to reboot again w/o bootmenu to see if same thing happens | 17:31 |
| FIQ | ah, system boots fine even w/o utilizing bootmenu now | 17:32 |
| FIQ | No idea what happened | 17:33 |
| kerio | you're welcome! | 17:33 |
| FIQ | but it wasn't just some temporary bootup weirdness for just one boot, as I tried to boot ~10 times before I decided to try it via bootmenu to see if it gave some kind of error (not like bootmenu usually does that, but meh) | 17:33 |
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| kerio | did you perform a n900 full reset? | 17:34 |
| FIQ | no | 17:35 |
| FIQ | er, well | 17:35 |
| FIQ | I did, but that was weeks ago | 17:35 |
| FIQ | (to see if it fixed my sound issue etc) | 17:35 |
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| spoofy | Ok. Here's the news. Nokia changed my board to new one in n900 - They have new part of boards produced in korea | 17:36 |
| spoofy | Serial number: I35693803xxxxxxx Warranty: IYES Care Services | 17:36 |
| spoofy | I Warranty Class: ISHIPMENT + 25 MONTHS Product Type: IRX-51 | 17:36 |
| spoofy | Handset: IN900 Product Code: I0582644 Start of Warranty: | 17:36 |
| spoofy | I12-11-2012 End of Warranty: I12-12-2014 Ship-to Country: | 17:36 |
| spoofy | IPL-POLAND Ship-to Customer#: ILEGPL Factory SimLock: IN | 17:36 |
| FIQ | spoofy: heard about pastebins? ._. | 17:36 |
| spoofy | FIQ: yeap but that's important news ;) | 17:37 |
| FIQ | er wait a moment | 17:37 |
| FIQ | do nokia still produce new n900s? | 17:37 |
| spoofy | no only boards | 17:37 |
| FIQ | hm ok | 17:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | spoofy: WTF?!!! \o/ | 17:37 |
| spoofy | my friend is working in nokia care service | 17:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | new boards produced? incroyable! | 17:38 |
| spoofy | he told me that is cheaper for nokia to order new boards than replace a phone to new | 17:38 |
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| kerio | :D | 17:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, I'd think they knew this 20 months ago when they decided to bin all the spare parts they had on stock | 17:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | actually I asked for such move several times - now they actually did it?! I still can't believe | 17:41 |
| spoofy | also I heard about gray n950.. they just burn them in furnace.. | 17:41 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 ponders to ask how much is a main PCBA when bought in qty of e.g. 1000 | 17:42 | |
| FIQ | how about giving them to me instead :D | 17:42 |
| FIQ | (jk) | 17:42 |
| kerio | spoofy: is the cpu still the same? | 17:42 |
| spoofy | kerio: probably yes | 17:42 |
| kerio | :( | 17:42 |
| spoofy | board produced in korea | 17:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: what else? | 17:43 |
| spoofy | DocScrutinizer05: new wifi chip :D | 17:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | spoofy: could you ask your friend how much Nokia calls for such a board? | 17:43 |
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| spoofy | DocScrutinizer05: sure but he's not working in warsow - polish nokia center | 17:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | GeneralAntilles: I smell a unconfirmed rumour story for MWKN | 17:44 |
| spoofy | DocScrutinizer05: I can give you my imei - just check it... | 17:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | spoofy: sorry? what could I check this way? | 17:45 |
| spoofy | In what way? | 17:46 |
| spoofy | if someone is an employee of nokia can check it out | 17:47 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: is there a way to run powertop in the background and do some logging this way? | 17:47 |
| spoofy | nvm.. I broke my usb so I was expect a new phone | 17:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: long term? well, I guess a while loop would do | 17:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | spoofy: sorry you lost me | 17:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: there's a parameter to powertop, to specify the monitoring window | 17:49 |
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| spoofy | DocScrutinizer05: No I'm happy right now ;) My sweet n900 will back to me | 17:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | spoofy: that's all fine but I still don't get it what you're telling me, starting with "IMEI" | 17:50 |
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| spoofy | DocScrutinizer05: ugh.. you can check everything about the phone by checking IMEI right? | 17:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I don't know, probably I could find out about warranty | 17:53 |
| spoofy | And replaced parts | 17:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I heard there's a Nokia webpage to check warranty, maybe it takes IMEI for that | 17:53 |
| spoofy | and whole service history | 17:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | spoofy: I'm not Nokia | 17:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | spoofy: anyway if your IMEI is unchanged then odds are you have no new mainboard in that N900 | 17:55 |
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| spoofy | DocScrutinizer05: new board = new IMEI | 17:55 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: hm, why? | 17:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | of course they *might* be able to change IMEI of new board to the one of old board | 17:55 |
| kerio | isn't it a matter of reconfiguring rapuyama? | 17:55 |
| spoofy | No. I have new IMEI and notification in warranty card | 17:56 |
| spoofy | note.. nvm | 17:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's a pretty good indicator that they actaully changed main PCBA | 17:56 |
| spoofy | They changed the board to new one produced in 2012 in korea.. So they ordered a part of new boards to n900. | 17:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | dang, i *need* to get one of those new boards into my paws | 18:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | spoofy: new wiFi chip? how do you know? which one? | 18:10 |
| spoofy | That was a joke :P | 18:10 |
| spoofy | Ehh.. new board with new cpu and wifi chip - a/b/g/n support... in my dreams | 18:11 |
| freemangordon | yeah, 3630 with 1GB | 18:13 |
| freemangordon | though ^^^ might be cheaper than 3430 | 18:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | by now for sure | 18:15 |
| freemangordon | spoofy: could you check your omap revision? | 18:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though, not really since TI probably not even sells any 3430 anymore, so you either get them on aftermarket for cheap, or not at all | 18:16 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: but who will store such (maybe 1000) amount of 3430? | 18:16 |
| freemangordon | makes no sense | 18:16 |
| freemangordon | afaik n900 is the only device with 3430 made by nokia | 18:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | grep CPU /proc/cpuinfo | 18:17 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer51: no | 18:18 |
| freemangordon | the correct place is cat /sys/power/idcode | 18:18 |
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| freemangordon | Production ID: 00000000 00000000 000000cc cafeb7ae | 18:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | indeed | 18:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Production ID: 00000000 00000000 000000cc cafeb7ae | 18:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Die ID: 0c004012 040364fb 00000000 44f60004 | 18:19 |
| freemangordon | cafeb7ae is for ES3.1 | 18:19 |
| freemangordon | 3.1.2 has a different value there | 18:19 |
| freemangordon | spoofy: ^^^ | 18:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah spoofy, please share! ;-D | 18:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cat /sys/power/idcode | 18:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: are you sure that's not GAIA/twl4030? - since "power" | 18:21 |
| ShadowJK | /sys/power seems to be a convenient place to put all kinds of random stuff. | 18:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 18:22 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer51: 100%. Though I was wrong, it is not the last uint of Production ID, but IDCODE | 18:22 |
| freemangordon | ES3.1 is 0x4B7A E02F | 18:23 |
| freemangordon | ES3.1.2 is 0x7B7A E02F | 18:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | IDCODE? | 18:23 |
| spoofy | DocScrutinizer05: I dont have a phone right now. It's still in nokia care service. | 18:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah | 18:23 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer51: the first line | 18:23 |
| freemangordon | IDCODE: 4b7ae02f | 18:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aah | 18:24 |
| spoofy | DocScrutinizer05: I'll have it in monday probably | 18:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems I need a break till that coffee kicks in | 18:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | spoofy: please keep us updated | 18:24 |
| spoofy | DocScrutinizer05: no problem ;) | 18:24 |
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| freemangordon | spoofy: if your IDCODE is 0x7B7A E02F then your device officialy supports 720MHz for MPU | 18:25 |
| freemangordon | :) | 18:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | official OC or OPP4 ? | 18:26 |
| spoofy | freemangordon: Woh :D that's great :) I can't wait to have my sweet n900 in my hands | 18:26 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: OPP6 ;) | 18:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | err, six? | 18:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~omap-oc | 18:27 |
| infobot | rumour has it, omap-oc is http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-08-01.log.html#t2010-08-01T22:16:05 read that!, or and this http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2011-03-11.log.html#t2011-03-11T03:04:11 | 18:27 |
| freemangordon | 125,250,500,550,600,720 | 18:27 |
| freemangordon | count :P | 18:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's no OPP6 | 18:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or is that new for that SoC? | 18:27 |
| freemangordon | ES3.1.2 has | 18:27 |
| freemangordon | yep | 18:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mhm | 18:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so this OPP6 probably is the old OPP5? | 18:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aka 'official OC' | 18:28 |
| freemangordon | well, it is weird, as the voltage is still that same as for opp5 | 18:28 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 18:28 |
| freemangordon | but with SR in mind, it is still different OPP | 18:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, probably | 18:29 |
| freemangordon | "OMAP3440-720" | 18:29 |
| freemangordon | this is how it is called in TRM | 18:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't matter since the OC fanboys pick core voltages at random anyway | 18:30 |
| * ShadowJK nods | 18:30 | |
| freemangordon | hehe | 18:30 |
| ShadowJK | beagleboard switched to -720 a little bit after N900 release | 18:30 |
| ShadowJK | and 512m | 18:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | DUH! | 18:30 |
| freemangordon | ShadowJK: what core? ES3.1.2? | 18:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I NEED SUCH A BOARD!!! | 18:30 |
| ShadowJK | no idea | 18:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | highly unlikely that they re-POPed the RAM if they could only get 3440-720 | 18:31 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: wait, lets see, if it is 3630 we'll have more problems than gaim :P | 18:32 |
| freemangordon | *gain | 18:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 3630 won't fit I guess | 18:32 |
| freemangordon | afaik it is pin-to-pin compatible | 18:32 |
| freemangordon | but not sure | 18:32 |
| ShadowJK | beagle was 3530 too.. | 18:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway a beagleboard 3440-720-512 might fit nicely | 18:33 |
| freemangordon | ShadowJK: 3530 is cutted down 3430 | 18:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | s/3440/3430/ | 18:34 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer05 meant: anyway a beagleboard 3430-720-512 might fit nicely | 18:34 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: it is 3530, see ^^^ | 18:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 3430 vs 3530 is pin compatible, i'm rather sure | 18:34 |
| freemangordon | won't do the job, SPI(iirc) and whatever is missing | 18:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's just different binning | 18:35 |
| freemangordon | naah, you can't connect GSM modem | 18:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | o.O | 18:35 |
| freemangordon | afaik | 18:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you mix that with 3x30 vs 3x40 maybe | 18:35 |
| freemangordon | and 353 is GP, 3430 is HS | 18:35 |
| freemangordon | *3530 | 18:36 |
| ShadowJK | Rev B6/B7: ES3.0, Rev C4 -720 Mhz, Rev C5: 512MB | 18:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | THAT might be correct | 18:36 |
| freemangordon | WTF?!? 3.0? | 18:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LOL | 18:36 |
| freemangordon | makes no sense | 18:36 |
| freemangordon | well, seems like a simple OC to me | 18:37 |
| freemangordon | as 720 is only supported on 3.1.2 according to TRM | 18:37 |
| freemangordon | and not on all 3.1.2 | 18:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | odds are Nokia found a bucket of SoC that been already POPed with 512MB-RAM OneNAND anyway | 18:37 |
| ShadowJK | Maybe the silicon revision was just left out of the info for rev c, *shrug* | 18:37 |
| freemangordon | ShadowJK: yeah, could be | 18:38 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: or better with 1G? :P | 18:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not sure 1GB even fits | 18:38 |
| freemangordon | I was kidding anyway :) | 18:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | again, I *NEED* SUCH A BOARD! | 18:39 |
| kerio | me too! | 18:39 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: lets wait spoofy to report | 18:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nah, I'm interested in that board no matter what spoofy reports | 18:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for a bunch of reasons | 18:40 |
| freemangordon | hmm, I wonder how NOLO will support 2x256 | 18:40 |
| freemangordon | chances are it will be ok | 18:41 |
| freemangordon | as now there are HW revisions with 2x128 (2101) and 1x256(2204) | 18:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fsckng NOLO should get replaced by uBoot | 18:41 |
| freemangordon | I wouldn;t hold my breath | 18:42 |
| ShadowJK | Omap3530DCBB72 | 18:42 |
| freemangordon | ShadowJK: aah, that's better :) | 18:42 |
| ShadowJK | 2 x 256MB | 18:42 |
| freemangordon | though it is missing one 0 at the end | 18:42 |
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| freemangordon | BTW I am not sure 1G will make sense in n900 | 18:43 |
| ShadowJK | hm | 18:43 |
| freemangordon | this will suck the battery in no time | 18:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems I said exactly that, some lines up | 18:43 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: i've missed it | 18:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-11-30 17:38:40] <DocScrutinizer05> I'm not sure 1GB even fits | 18:44 |
| ShadowJK | this is C4 manual and 2 x 256MB refers to 256 ram and 256 onenand | 18:44 |
| freemangordon | hmm | 18:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-/ | 18:44 |
| ShadowJK | freemangordon; I'd find 5x ram power use increase acceptable for 4x the ram :0 | 18:45 |
| freemangordon | RPi has older SoC than n900, ain't? | 18:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so screw beagleboard, get the SoC of pre | 18:45 |
| ShadowJK | Rev C5 is 512M ram | 18:45 |
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| ShadowJK | and Beagleboard-xm is more N9-like | 18:45 |
| ShadowJK | with gig of ram, iirc | 18:45 |
| ShadowJK | ah no, still 512 | 18:46 |
| freemangordon | ShadowJK: you can;t fill 1G on n900 | 18:46 |
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| freemangordon | well, with normal usage | 18:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | addr line missing iirc | 18:46 |
| kerio | freemangordon: except for IO | 18:46 |
| ShadowJK | freemangordon; i can! | 18:46 |
| freemangordon | :D | 18:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on POP IF | 18:47 |
| ShadowJK | just from web browsing | 18:47 |
| freemangordon | ShadowJK: what do you run on your n900? LAMP? | 18:47 |
| ShadowJK | microb is enough | 18:47 |
| freemangordon | well, L is here, btu what about the others? | 18:47 |
| ShadowJK | fennec and I'll need 2 gigs | 18:47 |
| freemangordon | actually fennec will fly with 512 | 18:48 |
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| freemangordon | but yeah, as Pooh says... | 18:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd be more than happy with 512MB RAM | 18:48 |
| kerio | hell, with 1gb you could do a slow boot and then keep EVERYTHING in ram | 18:49 |
| * ShadowJK accidentalled was up to about 800M swap use yesterday | 18:49 | |
| freemangordon | WHAAAT? | 18:49 |
| ShadowJK | it'd probably been fine but suddenly all browser windows wanted to render simulatenously | 18:49 |
| * freemangordon never goes above 180-190 | 18:49 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LOL | 18:49 |
| ShadowJK | and it was doing 8 megabytes/sec to/from swap for an hour before I killed microb lol | 18:49 |
| kerio | :D | 18:50 |
| freemangordon | hehe | 18:50 |
| freemangordon | ShadowJK: -thumb? | 18:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seen that with just ONE friggin microB window with some idiotic JS | 18:50 |
| * ShadowJK is currently at about 400M swap in use on N800 too, that a-data uhs-i card really makes it fly | 18:50 | |
| kerio | ShadowJK: so it's a good card? | 18:50 |
| ShadowJK | but microb leaks a shitton more memory on Diablo 4 too, so most of that 400M is leaked, though heap fragmentation does make alot if it active anyways.. | 18:51 |
| ShadowJK | freemangordon; not on this device | 18:51 |
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| freemangordon | ShadowJK: I'd strongly recommend it, it fits perfectly for heavy multitasking and high memory usage | 18:52 |
| ShadowJK | kerio; it seemed a bit unreliable at first, but my N800 has run over a week of heavy use on it now | 18:52 |
| kerio | why aren't you using it on your n900? | 18:52 |
| kerio | and why are you using a n800? | 18:53 |
| ShadowJK | freemangordon; it's on my backup n900 waiting for this N900 to die :P | 18:53 |
| freemangordon | hehe | 18:53 |
| ShadowJK | N900's swap algorithm is better | 18:53 |
| ShadowJK | N800 has the standard linux swap | 18:53 |
| freemangordon | ShadowJK: I hope your primary n900 won;t die anytime soon | 18:54 |
| * ShadowJK waited for his last N900 to die before doing PR1.3 to 1.3.1 update too :-/ | 18:54 | |
| kerio | yeah, freemangordon still hasn't updated cssu-thumb to the latest -testing | 18:54 |
| kerio | :[ | 18:54 |
| kerio | ShadowJK: what the hell | 18:55 |
| kerio | 1.3 to 1.3.1 is *one package* | 18:55 |
| freemangordon | kerio: check CSSU-testing thread on TMO | 18:55 |
| ShadowJK | When/if one thing goes wrong, many things start going wrong :-( | 18:55 |
| freemangordon | kerio: I WILL NOT update -thumb until -testinng is stable enough for my taste. Having in mind the userbase | 18:55 |
| * ShadowJK is nervous about updating main n900 since I like/use N900 so much :s | 18:56 | |
| kerio | ShadowJK: the fact that you're nervous means that you don't have nearly enough backups | 18:56 |
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| ShadowJK | I do | 18:57 |
| kerio | so...? | 18:57 |
| * ShadowJK also has archived copies of N900 #1 and N900 #2 / at time of death too | 18:58 | |
| ShadowJK | restoring seems to be a annoying task | 18:58 |
| kerio | ...it's 5 keys | 18:58 |
| ShadowJK | and for some reason tracker ignores old DCIM videos and pictures afterwards | 18:59 |
| kerio | well, i suppose that if you *really* screw up you also have to reflash with robbiethe1st's image first | 18:59 |
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| ShadowJK | i don't do backupmenu | 19:00 |
| ShadowJK | I'd have to switch on/off all the time wouldn't I? | 19:00 |
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| kerio | meh, once in a while | 19:00 |
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| ShadowJK | the once in a while crash is annoying enough :/ | 19:01 |
| kerio | i end up making a full backup every 4 days or so | 19:01 |
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| * ShadowJK ends up booting N900 once a month or so | 19:01 | |
| ShadowJK | dunno really what's causing it, IO just stalls | 19:02 |
| ShadowJK | afaict no in-flight IO to *mmc, nothing in dmesg about mmc problems | 19:03 |
| ShadowJK | like the kernel just locked up mmc IO :/ | 19:03 |
| * ShadowJK has been meaning to check if anything in /syspart is approaching memory limits right before this thing happens | 19:03 | |
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| ShadowJK | kerio; btw I've found online a Sandisk UHS-I microsdhc in some "android edition" that I'm hoping would more geared towards IOPS, the marketing seems to vaguely hint at it | 19:09 |
| ShadowJK | but I'm not convinced | 19:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: you really should use BM, it's good for you :-) | 19:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | even if only used once a month | 19:29 |
| ShadowJK | but I hate BSOD/crashing/freezing/booting :-/ | 19:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, annoying that fremantle needs a boot after core lib update ;-P | 19:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but actually that's virtually the only feasible way to get an umounted rootfs | 19:30 |
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| ShadowJK | backing up /home and Mydocs seems to mostly work though | 19:32 |
| ShadowJK | except the tracker issue after restoring | 19:32 |
| ShadowJK | and I can do it over wifi without needing reboots | 19:33 |
| kerio | ShadowJK: it's also somewhat annoying to restore | 19:33 |
| ShadowJK | yes | 19:33 |
| ShadowJK | but my goal is to only do that when N900 dies | 19:33 |
| ShadowJK | :P | 19:33 |
| kerio | don't complain about being scared of losing stuff with your n900 when you do updates then | 19:34 |
| kerio | you chose to be scared | 19:34 |
| ShadowJK | well dunno | 19:34 |
| kerio | by not doing BM backups | 19:34 |
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| ShadowJK | painless backup with annoying restore | 19:34 |
| ShadowJK | or painful backups with less annoying restore | 19:34 |
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| kerio | >painful | 19:34 |
| kerio | boot, b t s s q | 19:35 |
| kerio | or boot, b t s s, connect usb, w, copy files, disconnect usb, q | 19:35 |
| ShadowJK | booting is pretty annoying too | 19:36 |
| kerio | ...no it's not? | 19:36 |
| ShadowJK | opening everything again | 19:36 |
| kerio | heh, i keep everything closed | 19:36 |
| kerio | maybe it's that | 19:36 |
| * ShadowJK always has atleast 2 x-terms (+ 3 screen sessions) and xchat open | 19:37 | |
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| ShadowJK | and then I need to go and set the /chanmode I want for every tab in xchat :/ | 19:38 |
| kerio | NIN102: what's the tab key in rescueos? | 19:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | damn, what's painful in doing a BM full image when you need to boot anyway? not liking to reboot is a bogus argument, since this forbids any decent updating | 19:38 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: what's the ctrl+key combination for escape, in unix? | 19:39 |
| NIN102 | kerio I forgot. I didn't create this keymap, so just try :P | 19:39 |
| ShadowJK | "when I need to boot anyway" rarely I'm close to any backup machine? | 19:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I do BM backups maybe every 8 to 12 weeks, in between automated rsync backups | 19:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ctrl-[ iirc | 19:40 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: crap, no [ in rescueOS either | 19:40 |
| ShadowJK | what about ctrl-i? | 19:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's TAB | 19:43 |
| kerio | huh, why didn't it work? :o | 19:43 |
| kerio | ah crap i was trying fn+key | 19:43 |
| * kerio is teh dumb | 19:43 | |
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| ShadowJK | so where does backupmenu install itself anyway? initfs? | 19:44 |
| kerio | ShadowJK: no, /etc/bootmenu.d/ and /usr/share/ | 19:44 |
| ShadowJK | where does bootmenu install? | 19:44 |
| kerio | a hook in preinit | 19:44 |
| ShadowJK | is that the thing that reflashes kernel on boot | 19:45 |
| kerio | no, that's multiboot | 19:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nope | 19:45 |
| ShadowJK | oh | 19:45 |
| ShadowJK | so it's that thing that runs-if-exists and keypad open? | 19:45 |
| kerio | yes | 19:45 |
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| kerio | hrmpf, it's the second time that the welcome screen shows up without any reason | 20:07 |
| kerio | i bet it's recovery-boot's fault | 20:09 |
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| Devilinside | android doesnot show any mobile hotspot? | 22:13 |
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| kerio | i bet that Quix0te used an old version of ZNC and the stickychan module | 22:20 |
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| merlin1991 | kerio: that sounds like you've got experience there :D | 23:02 |
| kerio | yep | 23:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? | 23:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | WTF is Quix0te? | 23:22 |
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| vi_ | a spanish novel by cervantes. | 23:28 |
| vi_ | kerio: what was the noob class you recommended me for nethack? | 23:29 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: the other interpretation is all the lines like this: Quix0te (~Quix0te@unaffiliated/quix0te) hat das Netzwerk verlassen (Excess Flood) | 23:29 |
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| kerio | vi_: dwarf valk | 23:30 |
| vi_ | also, what abou unnethack? | 23:30 |
| kerio | the mines will be mostly peaceful, you're lawful so you can get excalibur at level 5 by dipping your sword in a fountain, you get speed at level 7 | 23:30 |
| kerio | what about it? | 23:30 |
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| vi_ | dude! NO SPOILERZ. | 23:31 |
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| kerio | NO SPOILERZ means that you'll ascend in about 10 years | 23:31 |
| vi_ | should I play it or NH vanilla? | 23:31 |
| kerio | after writing your own spoilers | 23:31 |
| vi_ | kerio: meh, thats fine. | 23:32 |
| kerio | it's not, it's *boring* | 23:32 |
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| kerio | well, unnethack's interface is better | 23:33 |
| kerio | but overall it's a harder game | 23:33 |
| kerio | also, it fucks up the dragon color coding, which is something that greatly upsets me | 23:33 |
| kerio | i've been pestering bhaak to make him fix it, but he still hasn't done that ._. | 23:33 |
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| vi_ | what a dick. | 23:34 |
| vi_ | have you played doomrl? | 23:34 |
| kerio | yes i have | 23:35 |
| kerio | didn't really like it | 23:35 |
| vi_ | I thought it was kinda neat. | 23:39 |
| vi_ | not many rl s with gunz. | 23:39 |
| kerio | heh, slashem | 23:43 |
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| FIQ | <ShadowJK> and then I need to go and set the /chanmode I want for every tab in xchat :/ | 23:53 |
| FIQ | *that* thing should be possible to automate easily | 23:53 |
| kerio | wtf is chanmode anyway? | 23:55 |
| FIQ | I guess he means /chanopt | 23:55 |
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