IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2012-11-26

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Drathirtadzik: i mean also when play audio and try to close mediaplayer audio stop too, when play video and minimalize or lock screen stop play...00:09
tadzikI see00:09
tadzikwell, in omp you can choose to not stop playing music when you close the media player00:09
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DrathirDocScrutinizer05: ping01:00
Drathirkerio: ping01:00
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DrathirDocScrutinizer05: kerio wich of /dev/ is used for dsp device?01:06
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SkryDrathir: /dev/DspBridge01:10
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DrathirSkry: thanks im thinking about that but not sure...01:16
Drathirname can be similar for something other...01:17
Drathireh not works that...01:23
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Skrywhat are you trying to do?01:24
DrathirSkry: mplayer dont see /dev/dsp for oss driver but symlink to correct place not works...01:24
Skryok, then that is definetely NOT the device you need01:25
Skrywhy are you not using mplayer -ao pulse ?01:26
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DrathirSkry: because this vaule is ovverided by ao alsa01:27
Drathirin conso.e output01:27
Drathiri see also /dev/snd but dont know what this connected it is...01:29
SkryI don't think oss compatibility is in fremantle kernel01:29
Skryor as modules for that matter01:29
DrathirSkry: but only for alsa and oss is reaction see only this two options...01:32
SkryI'm not quite getting what you mean, wait a second and I'll install mplayer and see01:33
halVIII__alsa work01:33
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DrathirhalVIII__: yes alsa works but to many [AO_ALSA] Trying to reset soundcard.01:34
Drathir[AO_ALSA] Write error: Broken pipe.01:34
Drathirlooking for alternative to check somthing...01:35
halVIII__ram or disk full ?01:35
DrathirhalVIII__: none of them full01:36
Drathirram 165/229mb01:36
Drathirswap only 199mb used01:37
Drathiris possible compiling programs on n900?01:39
Drathirfrom source package i mean...01:39
halVIII__ when I try mplayer -ao pulse bla.avi it's ok01:39
Skrysame here01:40
Drathirlook for output01:40
FIQDrathir: depends01:40
Drathir[AO OSS] audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: No such file or directory01:40
DrathirAO: [alsa] 44100Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)01:40
Skry-ao pulse -> everything ok, -ao alsa I get the same error as you but audio works ok regardless01:41
FIQyou *can* install the required stuff on-device but it's tedious and compilation will take ages01:41
FIQrecommended way is using sbox on your computer01:41
DrathirFIQ: good trick...01:42
DrathirMPlayer SVN-r30099-4.2.1 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team01:43
Drathirfrom cssu testing01:43
halVIII__ao_alsa broken pipe ... reset soundcard... but it's ok I hear the sound01:43
halVIII__so I can't help you more, sorry01:44
halVIII__maybe your sound level ^^01:45
Drathiryes yes sound is heared but with more load when tray to play h264 sometimes that brokee pipe messages is mor than few and looking for alternative output to compare behaviour...01:46
DrathirhalVIII__: thanks alot for check this is enough thanks again...01:46
halVIII__ok I didn't try h264, maybe too heavy file?01:47
SkryI did try h26401:47
Skryby any chance, are you trying to play some insanely overkill 720p with dts or something?01:47
SkryI think I turned invisible01:50
DrathirSkry: i use avidemux for convert video mpeg-4 avc (x264) audio mp3 container mkv01:51
FIQyes you're currently +i01:51
DrathirhalVIII__: yes proppably but interesting is that video little slowly than normal but play, and audio is not synchronised is much faster than video...01:52
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Drathirfile size of that encode is very acceptable is very small and quaility is very high...01:53
DrathirSkry: not most of the files is 480p max01:54
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Skrythis probably is just about personal preference, but why are you using mplayer when you have option to player which uses DSP for decoding?01:57
Drathirsomething like eg. 704x40001:57
Skryand yes, those broken pipe messages do tend to appear when your system is just too slow to play the file01:58
DrathirSkry: openmedia cant read from sshfs01:58
Drathirwith mplayer i play from console chosing the file...01:59
Drathirbut inseresting why dsp isnt avaible for system like normal device drivers xv,x11,fbdev and other...02:00
Skryso you are playing remote files.. try increasing the cache for mplayer (-cache iirc), or, you could just install minidlna to other end and use omp02:00
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Skryand, because mplayer does not use gstreamer02:02
DrathirSkry: i trying too cache isnt problem not visible changes with different vaules of cache...02:02
DrathirSkry: hmmm i try play with minidlna i must go to read about that...02:03
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DrathirSkry: not use? i know that using ffmpeg but dont think about that dont use gstreamer...02:04
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SkryI meant, that dsp decoding/encoding is available for anything that supports gstreamer, which mplayer does not do.02:06
SkryI personally use minidlna and omp, works.02:06
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Drathiri also try server side play with x forwarding but in this way no sound...02:09
DrathirSkry: ok i also will be try minidlna...02:11
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Drathiri know i can convert to avi eg. but this no way for that... better is looking for sollution wchich not modify oryginal file...02:13
SkryDrathir: ok. btw I'm currently playing 700MB h264 dvdrip with omp via minidlna, everything works, video and audio are very smooth.02:14
DrathirSkry: good to know that the last chance works ^^ thanks a lot for check...02:15
DrathirSkry: i good thinking that minidlna works on server side?02:16
Skryyes, server02:17
DrathirSkry: oh one more thing maybe you have also http server and try to stream that the same file throught https with browser?02:18
SkryI dont have such02:19
Drathirok no problem...02:20
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SkryI tested with another h264 dvdrip, plays fine also. both files i tried are from groups that release torrents so h264 support seems to be quite ok with "standard" files02:21
Drathirim in this way try to compare core player from n80 phone with n900...02:22
DrathirSkry: ok  setup minidlna...02:23
SkryDrathir: other dlna servers should also work, I chose minidlna because it is lightweight02:25
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SysaxedI have a strange problem.. my phone crashes when I close the back cover02:35
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DrathirSkry: dlna using udp?02:38
DrathirSkry: in arch also is in community repo...02:38
Skryyeah, udp02:41
Sysaxedoh no02:41
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Sysaxedit crashes.. hmm..02:41
DrathirSysaxed:sd attached?02:42
Drathirmean sd card02:43
Sysaxedseems like it does it randomly, not because of the lid02:44
DrathirSysaxed: dmesg checked after crash?02:44
Sysaxedit reboots all the time...02:44
Sysaxedmaybe this time I will do it02:44
Sysaxedwell, it boots to the OS02:44
Sysaxedshowing the desktop and stuff02:45
Sysaxedbut then I grabbed it in my hands02:45
Sysaxedand it crashed02:45
Sysaxedmaybe there's a problem with usb port?...02:45
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Sysaxedopened up a terminal.. and it turned off..02:47
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GeneralAntillesAnybody have a specific changelog for the latest 0xFFFF03:06
SysaxedI don't get it!03:12
Sysaxedwhen it's plugged in, I can boot03:12
GeneralAntillesLoose battery?03:13
Sysaxedotherwise it simply doesn't let me boot03:13
Sysaxedif I boot and plug out - it turns off03:13
robbiethe1stBattery's shot?03:13
Sysaxedif it's working and I take it in my arms - it turns off03:14
Sysaxedprobably it's the battery...03:15
robbiethe1stI'm betting shot battery - as soon as you unplug it, the voltage drops below the 'shutdown' level03:15
robbiethe1stGet yourself a Japod battery from dx.com03:16
robbiethe1stcheck the maemo forums for the exact link03:16
robbiethe1stBetter capacity than stock, $10 or so03:16
Sysaxedwell, I have 5 more batteries03:17
Sysaxednot a problem...03:17
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Gh0stythank you DocScrutinizer05 ...03:41
Gh0styI uninstalled fcam and all of the sudden my led and keyboard backligt work again ...03:41
Gh0stywouldn't have expected its software related (and especially since I didn't add any new software on there for like the last year ... (including fcam which should be there for a year i guess)03:42
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DrathirSkry: what router you use?04:50
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DocScrutinizer05who asked if that bug got fixed in fcam? ^^^ your answer ;-)05:02
GeneralAntillesDocScrutinizer05, care to point me to highlights for the 0xFFFF update?05:02
DocScrutinizer05[2012-11-23 20:59:54] <kerio> DocScrutinizer05: was the fcam led bug fixed?05:02
DocScrutinizer05GeneralAntilles: I don't know for sure, just have a bookmark05:03
GeneralAntillesThe changelog in the package is from 2008.05:03
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GeneralAntillesDocScrutinizer05, yeah, I've got that one, too.05:04
GeneralAntillesDoesn't really cover the update specifically, though.05:04
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DocScrutinizer05sorry, no better info available here. Ask pali05:19
DocScrutinizer05GeneralAntilles: ^^^05:19
GeneralAntillesHe's not here.05:19
DocScrutinizer05~seen pali05:19
infobotpali <~pali@unaffiliated/pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 4h 13m 28s ago, saying: 'stop bme and load bq kernel drivers'.05:19
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DrathirSkry: minidlna the same behaviour omp dont play all the time try to buffor data...05:43
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DrathirSkry: but mplayer play like other with link getting from omp...05:46
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infobot- Uptime for apt -07:26
infobotNow: 23m 25s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux07:26
infobot1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 201007:26
infobot2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 200907:26
infobot3: 36d 20h 47m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Aug  4 17:38:59 200907:26
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Drathircoreplayer on n80 play very slowly with freezes from dlna but audio seems to be synchronized...08:07
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: weird, though - i have fcam installed and everything works fine09:23
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ljsdofuynsdfufuhanyone in this channel working on jolla?10:41
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ljsdofuynsdfufuhor is that on the DL?10:41
halVIII_ljsdofuynsdfufuh, maybe try on #jollamobile or #mer10:46
halVIII_by jolla I suppose you mean sailfish ,  Jolla is the company sailfishos the OS10:49
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ljsdofuynsdfufuhcool :(10:53
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ljsdofuynsdfufuhfkn keyboard haha... hey so if you had to carry two phones how would you work the carrier issues? I need to start carrying my iOS device with me, but I still have my n900. They both can't use the same 100/mo ATT carrier10:54
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villagerdunno, here in europe you can use both on the same subscription if you pay a little extra11:04
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Pali~seen X-Fade11:17
infobotx-fade is currently on #maemo #harmattan #meego #maemo-ssu, last said: 'ZogG_laptop: ?'.11:17
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freemangordonPali: there's no use :(11:27
freemangordonPali: you'd better pester the council :D11:30
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DocScrutinizer05kerio: told you it's probably a race condition, depending who's starting(opening-the-sysnode first, fcam or mce13:14
gomiamDocScrutinizer05: you "racist"... ;)13:14
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vi____Otterboxes have been found!14:19
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* ShadowJK pays 3.90 extra per month to be able to use up to 5 devices on same subscription14:35
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vi____ShadowJK: wut?14:47
vi____same subscription to what?14:47
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mgedminwhat is this Cybercom spam doing on planet maemo?15:48
amospallais it posible to change the code lock timeout to greater than one hour ?15:49
MrPinguamospalla: yes via gconf, IIRC15:51
amospallaMrPingu: thanks, lets search again with that in mind15:51
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MrPinguamospalla: /system/osso/dsm/locks/devicelock_autolock_timeout15:55
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vi____ShadowJK: Is it safe or even logical to use hdparm to measure flash read speed on the n900?18:11
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uros1hi people, can anobody point me how to add exstras repo and exstras-devel trying this way and ham reported no working repo
vi____uros1: Do you know linux?18:29
uros1sure ubuntu user over 5 years18:30
vi____just edit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/18:30
vi____with vi as root18:30
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vi____add the repo name there.18:30
vi____it is the absolutely easiest way.18:31
uros1this links, this is ok names and links here?
vi____ /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list18:32
vi____uros1: There you go.18:32
vi____uros1: Use you common sense.  That sources.list also contains other stuff!18:33
uros1ok cool tnx18:34
vi____uros1: Also, you can use apt.18:35
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vi____wwaaaaaaaayyyy faster than that HAM bullfeathers.18:35
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uros1easy done with leafpad...18:40
uros1i  like xubuntu18:41
vi____How do you easily run an X application as root when you are logged into X as a user without funky hacks?18:41
uros1startx :-D18:42
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uros1what about thumb repo, is it ok idea tu use it or...18:45
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GeneralAntillesPali, ping?19:03
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ron0062000 /quit19:28
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PaliGeneralAntilles, pong19:38
GeneralAntillesPali, too late. :P19:38
GeneralAntillesI was going to quiz you about the newest features in 0xFFFF but you're getting a more generic summary in MWKN instead.19:39
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keriouros1: if you're ok with running bleeding-edge stuff...20:27
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DocScrutinizer05kerio: uros1: Do NOT use cssu-thumb repo unless you *know* what you're doing! It will make your system segafault like mad, if not installed correctly20:33
keriooh, he said repo20:34
vi__I said use that sources.list with care.20:34
kerioDocScrutinizer05: if dpkg let you install stuff, then you're just a reboot away from a working condition20:34 theory20:34
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vi__Is there a way to configure notification balloons for individual accounts?20:36
keriovi__: make an otterbox that supports extra batteries!20:38
kerioi'd pay *tens* of euros for it20:38
vi__Htf am I meant to do that?20:38
kerioidk, make something that bends time and space20:38
vi__I think 1500 is as good as we will get.20:38
keriooh right, it's probably easier to make a better battery20:39
kerioby bending time and space20:39
vi__Although I beg if a manufacturer REALLY wanted he could make ~1700.20:39
vi__No paper wrap around label and miss out the protection PCB.20:40
DocScrutinizer05kerio: eh??20:40
vi__I believe in the power of the bq27200.20:40
kerioDocScrutinizer05: we need bigger batteries20:40
DocScrutinizer05nope, you need thumb kernel for any stuff from cssu-thumb repo20:41
vi__Just accept the n900 is slipping further and further into obsolecence each day.20:41
DocScrutinizer05it's plain mad to suggest anybody should enable tzhat repo in his standard device20:41
kerioDocScrutinizer05: yeah but everything thumb-compiled depends on the kernel-errata-whatever-feature20:41
DocScrutinizer05it's still mad20:42
kerioso at worst the dependencies bring in kernel-cssu-flasher20:42
keriooh, of course20:42
kerioyou're supposed to make a BM backup beforehand :)20:42
DocScrutinizer05stop trolling people!20:42
keriodude, chill20:43
kerioi misread and i didn't think he was talking about the repo20:43
uros1one questin, just reinstalled n900 and install cssu and thumb repo20:43
DocScrutinizer05nope, you're earning real bad karma this way, suggesting users stuff that will basically break their installation20:43
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DocScrutinizer05uros1: DO *NOT* install cssu-thumb repo!!!!20:44
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keriouros1: if you want to install cssu-thumb, you have to follow the actual instructions20:44
DocScrutinizer05bevcause it will at best turn your device/system into something you are not even aware of and that can't get reverted20:44
kerioenabling the repo can make your install blow up20:45
vi__Is this shit for reals? Who told him to enable the thumb repo?20:45
uros1hmm, a have thumb before and no problems...20:45
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vi__Do you have the thumb kernel installed?20:46
DocScrutinizer05we're not interested in "WFM"20:46
kerioif the answer is "i don't know", then you shouldn't've enabled the thumb repo20:46
uros1not yet20:46
uros1i just add repo, not proceeding to update20:46
DocScrutinizer05uros1: if you want to use cssu-thumb, read ubout it in tmo20:46
uros1ok lets see20:47
DocScrutinizer05uros1: no, not let's see20:47
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uros1OP saye "stable Thumb2"20:47
DocScrutinizer05you got pretty clear advice. There's no alternative20:47
uros1its stable, so why not?20:48
DocScrutinizer05no use in spreading bogus "works for me" pseudo-intructions reso reports here20:48
DocScrutinizer05uros1: obviously because you got no clue what it's all about, and we're not interested in reports based on that20:49
uros1ok anyway, a have testing CSSU now20:49
uros1fully uptadeted20:49
DocScrutinizer05we already know about all the implications (maybe except kerio who, aiui, suggested to enable zthat repo, which been absolutely wrong advice)20:49
vi__If you want thumb, you need to do it as instructed on tmo.  Search for thumb2 and read the first post.20:49
uros1and i have problem with contacs app20:50
kerioffs i didn't20:50
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uros1every reboot wipe up all contacss20:50
uros1only gchat contacts survive20:51
DocScrutinizer05ooh, but everything just works fine for you, except that minor problem? FIINE!20:51
vi__Uros, you need a reflash.20:52
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uros1ok i manage myself20:52
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kolpThe attitude in here is, err... weird sometimes...21:23
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ShadowJKvi____; hdparm is silly, and also flash read speed is pretty irrelevant22:13
* Drathir do working with minidlna+transcode....22:13
ljsdofuynsdfufuhIf you had to carry two phones how would you work the carrier issues? I need to start carrying my iOS device with me, but I still have my n900. They both can't use the same 100/mo ATT carrier22:16
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jacekowskiljsdofuynsdfufuh: just divert all the calls22:21
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vi_ShadowJK: Then what is a good way to check my latest block device tweaks for random write speed?22:23
ShadowJKCertainly not hdparm lol22:23
vi_I tried iozone through easy debian but I did not understand the results I was getting.22:24
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ljsdofuynsdfufuhjacekowski: yeah, but they'll each have to have a different SIM & I'll have to pay for 2 data plans, etc22:32
jacekowskiso you want 2 phones?22:33
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* ShadowJK can have 5 phones on same subscription for 3.90 extra per month :D22:51
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ljsdofuynsdfufuhvery funny. jacekowski: no, I just have to carry an android or iOS phone for work, but I'd like to keep carrying the n90023:11
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