IRC log of #maemo for Sunday, 2012-11-25

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RiDis Estel_ ever going to come back?00:20
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keriohopefully not00:23
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NeutrinoPowerah, there is an maemo-channel :)01:40
Skryyeah, several actually01:41
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NeutrinoPowerI got an N900 now :) I want reset all settings from user before me and maybe reflash maemo?01:42
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NeutrinoPowerI don't know the "Sperrcode"01:42
RiDSperrcode, haha.01:42
NeutrinoPowerin english?01:43
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RiDSecurity code or something01:43
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RiDWell, just flash it :P This way nothing of the user is kept01:43
RiDno need to know that code when reflashing01:43
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infoboti guess maemo-flashing is
NeutrinoPowerit would be nice to have an bootloader then with can boot multible distributions...01:44
NeutrinoPowerhave I to flash uboot before flashing maemo-firmware?01:45
RiDflash your phone completely before anything else ;)01:45
RiDerr i mean NIT!01:46
SkryNeutrinoPower: I suggest that you get familiar with your device and Fremantle in general first before venturing to other distributions01:53
NeutrinoPowerok ;)01:55
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SkryIn the end you might even find Maemo quite enjoyable experience. And in general it's not a very good idea to rush straight to messing with uboot and other os, as it seems to be somewhat complicated subject for many.01:58
RiD^. Perhaps I'd try Ubuntu, but android etc isn't nice at all01:59
NeutrinoPoweran MeeGo?01:59
RiDmeego is unfinished in n900 from what i know, but i dont follow the progress for a while01:59
RiDIn the end, I still think maemo is the best os for the n900. I should try Ubuntu once I get to fix my phone's microUSB which needs special treatment02:00
RiDas a normal fix won't do it, one of the five pins is screwed up. Anyways, talking about that02:00
SkryWell, if you want a phone style os, then your other os choice would be nemo02:01
RiDYou better check if your microUSB is alright. Be very careful with it, and if possible, open it and reinforce it02:01
Skryand for more general linux experience, pick your poison. There is arch, debian, ubuntu and few others all in varying states regarding functionality and user experience02:02
NeutrinoPowerok, I need to install the flasher on archlinux02:03
NeutrinoPowerthe nokia site is strange because when i agree the terms with the buttom nothing happens on the site02:05
Skrynokia is pulling the plug so to speak, I would not be surprised if the page is not working02:06
NeutrinoPowerI installed flasher-harmattan now02:09
RiDdo you own a N900 or N9?02:09
NeutrinoPower[neutrino@neutrino ~]$ flasher -V02:09
NeutrinoPowerflasher 3.12.1 (Oct  5 2011) Harmattan02:09
NeutrinoPowerhm ok, this is only for N9...02:10
NeutrinoPowerI have N90002:10
NeutrinoPowerflasher 3.5_2.5.2.2-2 is right?!02:13
RiDflasher3.5 on the wiki02:13
RiDyeah should be02:13
RiDoh by the way, for how much did you get your N900? also, brand new or 2nd handed02:14
NeutrinoPowersecondhand for 90€02:14
RiDhow good is it? Scratches, etc02:15
RiDlol, ok02:15
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NeutrinoPowerdo you use a display protective foil?02:17
RiDnope, it's full of little scratches02:17
RiDmostly because of my nails I guess ;) the scratches are only visible under certain situations though, it's not like any light is going to show them off02:18
RiDbut then it looks almost the same as dragging fingertips, so I don't really mind02:19
RiDthe keyboard however is all worn out, decaying paint02:19
NeutrinoPowerhm, where I get a maemo-firmware-image? I don't get anything on the nokia-site...02:26
NeutrinoPower and why they want the IMAI for a free Distribution?02:27
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Drathirsomeone going to flashing ? ^^02:40
DrathirNeutrinoPower: proppably verify version of firmware... because image could be universal...02:42
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NeutrinoPoweractually I have Version 20.2010.36-2 on N90002:43
DrathirNeutrinoPower: 21.2011.38-102:46
NeutrinoPowerwhere can I get this image-version?02:47
infobotcssu is probably
DrathirNeutrinoPower: i chose testing version used on clean flashed from nokia site...02:49
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NeutrinoPowermaybe I am to tired to find a source of maemo images03:02
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infobothmm... maemo-flashing is
SkryNeutrinoPower: did you say you run Arch? If you do, I had to run flasher as root to be able to flash. Telling you this because I know one case where the user did not think of that and thought flasher just does not work.03:03
DocScrutinizer51get the combinedmand vanilla image marked 'latest'03:03
Drathirarch? who running arch?03:04
Drathiroh main pc system...03:05
Drathiri also flashing using arch... works great...03:05
NeutrinoPowerah I think I have it, I need only the name of the image and not the image itself for flasher :D lol03:06
infobotmaemo-flashing is probably
NeutrinoPowerhm I don't have any idea03:07
NeutrinoPoweryes i read this site03:07
NeutrinoPowerbut I don't get an image from
NeutrinoPowerI don't know03:09
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Drathironly one things that you must remember when installing flasher is blacklisting modules...03:09
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DocScrutinizer51don't know is no answer. what's the problem?03:10
SkryDrathir: I run arch both on my n900 and "main" pc, if that's what you wondered, check tmo if you're interested.03:11
SkryDocScrutinizer51: I believe he gets no download from the page03:11
DocScrutinizer05I hoped I'd never again have to visit that page :-/03:13
DocScrutinizer05now you tell me I have to do it, just to check if it's broken?03:13
SkryI thought about doig just that for a moment, didn't. :)03:14
DocScrutinizer05I'd prefer to have a detailed description of the problem03:14
NeutrinoPowerah on Konqueror I get a list of maemo-images finally :)03:14
DocScrutinizer05and that's why ^^^03:15
DrathirSkry: o.O in near future i also going to try run arch on n900....03:15
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DocScrutinizer05NeutrinoPower: get *VANILLA* and *COMBINED*, botht he version marked 'latest'03:16
NeutrinoPowerbut the newest version is "PR 1.3 version 20.2010.36-2"03:17
DocScrutinizer05for combined you probably wanna pick the international or global version03:17
DocScrutinizer05yes, sounds correct03:17
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SkryDrathir: ok, when you feel like it, be sure to read my guide/thread on tmo before jumping into it03:19
NeutrinoPowerbut I want "21.2011.38-1Tmaemo5.1"03:19
DocScrutinizer05stay calm, that will come later :-)03:20
DocScrutinizer05you'll even get "21.2011.38-1Tmaemo6"03:20
DocScrutinizer05but not as fiaco.image03:20
Skry(again, we could really use such an image)03:21
DrathirSkry: with this same nick?03:21
DocScrutinizer05NeutrinoPower: please get "PR 1.3 version 20.2010.36-2"03:21
SkryDrathir: yes, same nick, it's under alternatives, you'll notice03:22
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DrathirNeutrinoPower: easy go throuhgt step that write DocScrutinizer05 and everything goes fine without the problems...03:24
DocScrutinizer05NeutrinoPower: there is no newer fiasco.image than that one03:24
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DrathirSkry: thanks im go to read before do anything with arch arm... thanks a lot...03:25
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DocScrutinizer05Skry: sure we could use such an image, really mad useful. But only if it's not neutered into oblivion03:26
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SkryDrathir: np, if you need help or want to talk about it, we even have a channel to do that, it's mentioned in the thread also, so welcome.03:27
DocScrutinizer05traitor! ;-P03:27
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NeutrinoPoweri downloaded "RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2.003_PR_COMBINED_003_ARM.bin" and flash tomorrow, ciao03:27
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DocScrutinizer05why 003 ?03:28
DocScrutinizer05meh, tomorrow then03:28
SpeedEvilI just got a refund of 239 pounds from my energy company.03:28
DocScrutinizer05I just was about to ponder preparing some popcorn03:28
SpeedEvilI'm trying to resist the nexus 4 which is that exact amount03:28
DrathirSkry: thats amazing thanks for invite i will use it with pleasure when going to install...03:29
SpeedEvilmy popper died03:29
SkryDocScrutinizer05: we just felt it would be appropriate to have a channel focusing on maemo alternatives so we don't cruft this channel. And sure, non-neutered image would be fine, we can always neuter it later. :)03:29
DocScrutinizer05my words :-)03:29
DocScrutinizer05NeutrinoPower: we'd prefer (well I'd) if you would spend another 45 min so we can talk you thru your first flashing right now03:30
DocScrutinizer05tomoorow I might not be available03:30
NeutrinoPowerDocScrutinizer05: would you download "RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin"?03:30
DocScrutinizer05003 is what? USA? India?03:31
NeutrinoPoweroh, I thought middle europe :D03:31
DocScrutinizer05I mean, if that's really the correct image for your locale, then you as well can use 00303:32
NeutrinoPowerI will join this chat before i start flashing tomorrow03:32
DocScrutinizer05but global should really fit everywhere, except for arabic and chinese fonts afaik03:32
DocScrutinizer05well, if you're lucky, you won't get suggestions like "install powerkernel and thumb!"03:34
Drathirfor poland loc i take multi and is enough...03:34
DocScrutinizer05(s)he's same country like me, he should as well be happy with global version03:35
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SkryI think we {sh,c}ould dig up the day when kerio was unleashed to train the newcomer, from the logs and maybe put it somewhere, it was quite educational evening iirc03:39
DocScrutinizer05Skry: will blacklisting as I suggested on ~flash work on arch?03:39
DocScrutinizer05kerio? really?? ;-P03:40
Skryblacklisting should work similary03:41
Skryand yeah, he actually did a very good job back then :)03:42
DocScrutinizer05well, if you can think of a proper searchstring for chanlog, come up with a URL :-D03:42
DocScrutinizer05I have to admit I can't recall this event03:43
SkryI recall you saing before you left "Do whatever kerio says, he knows what he is talking about" or something like that03:43
DocScrutinizer05yeah, that sentence I recall03:44
DocScrutinizer05~listkeys kerio03:44
infobotFactoid search of 'kerio' by key (3): kerio ;; kerio #DEL# ;; oldtest kerioth.03:44
infobotmethinks kerio is <DocScrutinizer> [...] kerio is correct [...]03:44
DocScrutinizer05this was another occasion though03:45
DocScrutinizer05I hoped for him to set up a factoid which I could factinfo then for the date03:45
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* DocScrutinizer05 scans his calendar for days marked in fat red writing "Kerio not trolling today" ;-)03:48
Skrynov 12 was the day03:49
DocScrutinizer05dang, that's just 2 weeks ago03:50
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DocScrutinizer05you meant this one, right?
Skryyes, that one03:54
Skryit was this interesting: :)03:58
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Skryhmm, I wonder if there would be any use for a wiki page that would act as a cheatsheet/reference for newbies, simple chronological links to other pages to get their device up to date and to some essential "non-official" stuff so they can get a glimpse what is possible to do with their device04:10
Skrymaybe I'll write one someday, apparently editing wiki is still not working?04:13
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DocScrutinizer05  FIQ *no04:14
DocScrutinizer05* BS04:14
DocScrutinizer05R&D mode is BS04:14
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DocScrutinizer05vi___  ^^^04:14
DocScrutinizer05Skry: editing wiki still fsckd up, I requested for publishing the incriminated .php(?) scripts so community could help fixing them, can't be THAT hard! really!04:16
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Skrythat would be great, imo working wiki is quite high on priority04:17
DocScrutinizer05damn, in 4 weeks is x-mess. Nobody at nemein or nokia is working til 6th of january. If shit isn't fixed *before* x-mess, we're probably screwed for looong time approximating infinity04:17
Skrythat might be the case unfortunately :\04:18
DocScrutinizer05I really hoped they wouldn't do that, but I always been afraid that worst case how Nokia would "shut down" services was exactly *this* way: rendering everything in a totally messed up unusable state months before they finally pull the plug04:20
DocScrutinizer05of course, "why fix it *now* when it's down end EOL in a month or two anyway" F U !04:21
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Skrybig corp logic04:23
DocScrutinizer05Skry: and yes, fully functional wiki is at very least among topmost 3 important things for maemo04:23
DocScrutinizer05and messing up shite fubar but not allowing it to migrate or getting fixed by any volunteer is among top 3 ways how to destroy a community04:24
DocScrutinizer05just keep stuff alive enough so users wouldn't ponder to google for alternatives04:25
DocScrutinizer05nobody will notice it's bitrotten and outdated04:26
DocScrutinizer05except those who want to update it04:26
DocScrutinizer05on places where you can't do this strategy, you instead send poisonous people to spam each and every thread with annoying rant and bitching and lies and false info, so no sane user will even come back for a second visit04:28
SkryYeah. I wouln't be that surprised if they decided to finally pull the plug as you said, after all things have gone just like you said for awhile now, they have been keeping everything just barely alive.04:29
DocScrutinizer05auxiliary info on that topic:
Skryand speaking of the big corps and shit, I found this very interesting read
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DocScrutinizer05>>It’s also important to set up an official web site which is down as often as it’s up. It’s not enough to have no web site at all; in such situations, the community has an irritating habit of creating sites of its own. But a flaky site can forestall the creation of those sites, ensuring that information is hard to find.<<04:33
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Skryvery appropriate. that's how it was, and looks like we are the next target.04:39
SkryThough I do think this community is something that is not so easy to get rid of. I believe we will manage without the scraps from Nokia just as well.04:41
DocScrutinizer05yeah, possible04:48
Skryat least we have quite adept userbase, people capable of. Can't say anything about financial matters but I think at least good hosting should be possible to achieve and the rest we can do on our own if necessary.04:54
Drathirabout hosting proppably find any firm to help for advertise of it...04:56
Drathiris big community a lot of people visiting of it...04:57
Drathirbut strange nokia have own servers what problems is give one of them for use maemo community only...04:58
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Skryyeah, and there is already community members mirroring maemo stuff and related, don't know about the specs of their servers and lines but "community hosting" might be possible too04:59
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Skrymm, nemein is hiring, maybe I should apply.. :)05:04
HurrianSkry, so, the plan is, you get the cart, and put the servers on it. We'll have a yellow-orange and slate grey van parked outside in three minutes.05:14
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SkryHurrian: roger that. :)05:47
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Skrywtf, suddenly he notices that it's morning already!05:48
DrathirSkry: only 4.50 here ^^05:51
SkryI think I'll just go to sleep, been mindlesly staring at the screen and doing nothing for the part few hours, apparently.05:56
Skrypast even05:56
Skryso, gn05:57
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DocScrutinizer05  <<that's what I meant when saying "please don't suggest cssu-thumb to newbies, it's not as userfriendly and on a support level as it should be, for that purpose"06:24
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Devilinsideanyone with a working ukeyboard vkb on maemo and easy debian??06:33
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DrathirSkry: i also for a moment go to sleep...06:35
Drathir"battery charging mode" :p06:36
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: trolling newbies is too easy, it's not fun09:43
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freemangordonAnyone Xlib here? what happens if XCreateWindow is called with NULL for parent window?13:20
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jon_ynot sure, make a root window? most GUI toolkit do that anyway13:22
freemangordonjon_y: i guess that too, but i need to be sure13:23
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Palifreemangordon, use XRootWindow(display, screen_number)13:54
freemangordonPali: I know that :). I am asking ^^^, because this is what systemui-tklock plugin does ;)13:55
freemangordonI am REing it13:55
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freemangordonit passess NULL parent to XCreateWindow13:56
freemangordonthe same for XCreateColormap13:56
freemangordoni.e. NULL window13:57
freemangordonanyway, I put /* FIXME */ on all the places I am not sure, you'll have the chance to fix them in CSSU :P13:57
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PaliI think you should use DefaultRootWindow(display) for root window (not NULL). but google does not know what NULL is doing...14:01
tadzikneither does man14:02
freemangordonPali: yeah, I've already asked him14:03
freemangordonbefore asking here14:03
freemangordonthis could be bug in tklock as well14:03
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villagerfreemangordon: also, the null value for Window is not "NULL", it is "None". Might be important when googling14:30
freemangordonvillager: what is passed is 0, name it whatever you want14:31
villagerfreemangordon: well, just saying the name might matter to google14:31
freemangordonyeah, thanks14:32
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amospallaguys, is down?14:48
amospallacan not load it :S14:48
amospallaoh, ok, now it responds, I thought it was taken down14:48
amospallatadzik: thanks, nice url to bookmark14:49
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PaliI destrodyed CAL and here is output from serial console:
Palifreemangordon, DocScrutinizer05 ^^^^ (test in qemu)15:36
PaliI do not understand: [   0.010] ERROR: both configuration areas are invalid; choosing first half15:37
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Paliwe have *two* CAL partitions in n900???15:37
freemangordonPali: look at libcal replacement, you'll get it15:37
freemangordonno, it is split in 3 areas15:37
freemangordonconf1, conf2, user15:38
freemangordonthere is exactly the same message there15:38
Paliseems that same is linked to NOLO15:40
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Paliafter investigation: NOLO has hardcoded some fallback partition table which can be overwritten by partition table in CAL15:50
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Paliso NOLO has hardcoded offset and size of CAL, NOLO parse it and then it overwrite partition table CAL15:51
Palifreemangordon, DocScrutinizer05 ^^^^15:51
freemangordonhmm, so we cannot move CAL?15:52
PaliI tried it in qemu, but NOLO not worked15:52
Paliso bootloader and CAL partition cannot be changed15:53
Palibtw, here is dump from NOLO console:
Paliif somebody understand format of CAL part_table, we can increase size of rootfs15:55
Pali(removing initfs)15:55
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Palibtw replacing NOLO by u-boot will not be possible, because NOLO booting CMT15:57
Paliand we have no code for CMT :-(15:57
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kerioPali: well, NOLO isn't that problematic, is it16:19
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ShadowJKjust boot uboot from nolo? what's the diff :)16:22
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DocScrutinizer05move kernel to /boot16:29
DocScrutinizer05megabytes of additional space in kernel partition for uBoot improvements16:30
DocScrutinizer05and no, I wouldn't nuke initfs partition, it might serve better purposes than for introducing incalculable risk by removing it16:32
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DocScrutinizer05if you want to put initfs partition to purpose, do mkubifs and mount it16:34
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Palikerio, you can try to decode that part_table section in CAL :P16:37
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: move kernel to initfs!16:37
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kerioPali: how do i read something from CAL?16:39
kerioDocScrutinizer05: initfs is as big as kernel16:41
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DocScrutinizer05kerio: I thought about that as well, for some weird reason I don't like the idea as much as the classical solution 'kernel zImage in /boot'16:55
keriomount initfs as /boot, maybe?16:55
DocScrutinizer05sounds nice17:00
DocScrutinizer05sounds extremely nice17:01
DocScrutinizer05or is it that tasty coffee?17:01
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: it feels like your mood depends a lot on how much time has passed since your last coffee17:04
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: anyway, having a separate /boot and a separate /usr would make fremantle *almost* like a real linux system17:06
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kerioand mounting a separate /usr wouldn't be too difficult i think17:07
DocScrutinizer05kerio: I guess that rationale 2 up is exactly why I like that idea so much :-)17:10
DocScrutinizer05hell, we even could use another filesystem (like jffs2) if uBoot has too many problems with loading kernel from ubifs17:11
kerioDocScrutinizer05: the thing is, changing too much becomes a risk17:11
DocScrutinizer05that's another nice point about it, we're not really changing much this way17:12
kerioDocScrutinizer05: just the /boot ?17:12
DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# ls -ld /boot17:13
DocScrutinizer05drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 160 2011-03-06 21:52 /boot17:13
DocScrutinizer05already there, where's the big change?17:13
kerioi meant /usr too :)17:13
DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# ls -ld /usr17:14
DocScrutinizer05drwxr-xr-x 13 root root 928 2010-07-30 02:03 /usr17:14
kerioDocScrutinizer05: uboot doesn't support the onenand though17:14
kerioat least, it doesn't support non-2101 onenands17:14
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DocScrutinizer05kerio: uBoot doesn't support onenand? wut?17:18
DocScrutinizer05maybe *our* (neutered) uBoot doesn't support ubifs17:18
keriothere's no onenand support compiled in the latest pali's uboot because it doesn't work correctly17:19
Paliuboot has support for ubifs17:19
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DocScrutinizer05but when we move kernel out of kernel partition, uBoot got more additional space than it needs total space right now17:19
Palibut for some unknown reason uboot cannot read anything from n900 onenand17:20
kerioPali: i thought it worked for 2101 n900s17:21
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kerioDocScrutinizer05: by default, uboot reads the config file from the first vfat partition on the emmc17:21
Paliwhen I compiled uboot with onenand support it broke booting on non 2101 n900s17:21
Palibut reading onenand does not worked on 2101 n900...17:22
DocScrutinizer05pandaboard should have a working uBoot for omap3430-onenand, no?17:28
DocScrutinizer05btw my daily n900 just acted up on inbound call like... makes me want to place it on floor and kick it17:30
DocScrutinizer05it took me ~5..10s until finally inbound call got established. Until then it did funny stuff like resuming ringtone playback after I pressed 'accept', rotating forth and back, etc17:32
DocScrutinizer05first time it went apeshit like that17:33
DocScrutinizer05hmmm even17:33
DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# uptime17:33
DocScrutinizer05 16:33    34 Tage  0:40 an,  0 Benutzer,  Durchschnittslast: 0,24, 0,52, 0,4717:33
ShadowJKiostat -m mmcblk0p317:34
DocScrutinizer05             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached17:34
DocScrutinizer05Mem:        245540     237248       8292          0        528      8787617:34
NeutrinoPowerI reflash Maemo5 on my "new" N900 now, would you reflash Vanilla version of the eMMC too?17:34
DocScrutinizer05Swap:       786424     183912     60251217:34
DocScrutinizer05NeutrinoPower: yes17:35
ShadowJKlow ram use17:35
DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# iostat -m mmcblk0p317:35
DocScrutinizer05bash: iostat: command not found17:35
ShadowJKsysstat in -devel17:35
DocScrutinizer05E: Couldn't find package sysstat17:37
DocScrutinizer05maybe I ought check my catalogs17:37
ShadowJKor was it in tools?17:37
DocScrutinizer05quite possibly17:38
DocScrutinizer05F U HAM!17:38
jacekowski 16:38:59 up 157 days, 19:53,  5 users,  load average: 0.60, 0.52, 0.5417:38
jacekowski             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached17:39
jacekowskiMem:      24743824   22672616    2071208          0        112   1772315617:39
jacekowski-/+ buffers/cache:    4949348   1979447617:39
jacekowskiSwap:     18429944    2015552   1641439217:39
ShadowJKanyway, if it shows more than 786 megs written, I bet that's a big cause of higher latencies17:39
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DocScrutinizer05Suggested packages:  isag Recommended packages:  cron   --- suuuuuure17:41
DocScrutinizer05ShadowJK: thanks, next time... ;-P17:41
DocScrutinizer05Device:            tps    MB_read/s    MB_wrtn/s    MB_read    MB_wrtn17:41
DocScrutinizer05mmcblk0p3         0,00         0,00         0,00          0          017:41
DocScrutinizer05meh, time for a reboot17:44
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DocScrutinizer05don't worry about cause of this glitch in my N900 - I did quite some stuff that usually I'm not supposed to do, like testing commands I thought might be related to dsp-reset etc17:53
DocScrutinizer05also a 60 >>somewhere.log been running since 2 weeks at least17:53
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kerioNeutrinoPower: you have to flash VANILLA and COMBINED together18:04
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kerioohohohoho vettel18:06
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Palikerio, did you looked at new 0xFFFF?18:06
kerioPali: no i didn't18:06
kerioshould i test something in particular?18:06
Paliyou can generate your own fiasco images :-)18:07
kerioof emmc too?18:09
keriohahaha what the hell is going on with the race18:13
kerioNeutrinoPower: when you're done, come back here18:14
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Palikerio, yes of emmc too18:24
Paliyou only need to add layout file18:24
Palikerio, but you can extract layout file from nokia emmc image by 0xFFFF18:25
kerioPali: afaik vi__ had a bunch of problems with making an eMMC image18:25
Palikerio, tell vi__ that I can help with eMMC image18:27
Pali0xFFFF can generate it without problem18:27
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keriohe tried doing that with fiascogen, it failed18:27
Palifiasco-gen needs some special args...18:27
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DocScrutinizer05hehe, that's what I told him18:37
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Drathiravi throught sshfs works ok...19:20
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Drathiryes high compresion h264 kill smoothly play on n900 mayby not is tragic but video slower but looks ok bigger problem is synchro video audio... audio is faster then video... lets me try rmvb...19:32
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eyalerHello to everyone, not so Maemo question but i'm trying to convery UYVY Fcam Image to IplImage did anybody tried?19:41
eyaleranybody here?19:45
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kerioDrathir: what are you using to play the video?19:52
eyalerare u asking me?19:57
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Drathirkerio: from sshfs mplayer...20:40
keriooh god why20:40
keriomplayer is *far* from being optimized20:40
kerioat all20:40
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keriothe n900 has a DSP20:40
keriomediaplayer/openmediaplayer/mafw uses it20:40
kerioit's no surprise that the playback isn't smooth20:41
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Drathirkerio: any other way to play from sshfs?20:49
Drathiralso have smplayer but this is weak optimised to n900 - so sad because is the best...20:50
Drathirkerio: yes n900 have dsp20:50
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Drathirkerio: media openmedia have strannge highly not configurable options...20:51
Drathirmafw dont used yet must check it...20:52
Drathirkerio: all play great exclude h264 created with avidemux....20:53
tadzikhm. Does the fact than mediaplayer stops playing when someone calls me come from the smartness of mafw?20:56
Drathirand mplayer is easier to use from console...20:56
* tadzik ponders a thought of something with MPD-compat. API but using mafw under the hood20:57
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Drathirtadzik: also when play audio and close media close, when play video and minimalize or lock screen stop play...20:59
tadziksorry, I don't understand you20:59
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FIQjust a question -- I accidentally left my spare battery in a car outside in 24h and it's kind of cold, does batteries survive this just fine?21:33
FIQjust asking before I attempt to use it :p21:33
tadzikit probably won't blow up :)21:34
FIQ"probably" :321:34
FIQseems to work fine21:36
SpeedEvilit's fine to -15c or so storage, easily21:36
SpeedEvillet it warm up before using21:36
FIQer, wrong channel21:37
FIQSpeedEvil: it was ~0 or so I think21:37
FIQdefinitely not below though21:37
SpeedEvilnot any issue other than condensation21:38
keriohell, iirc you're *supposed* to keep batteries in the fridge for long-term storage21:38
tadzikyeah, I've heard that too21:39
tadziknever bothered to do that tho :)21:39
FIQmy spare battery usually just sits in my external charger, also for longer storage21:40
FIQ(like the period of ~1month when I had a non-working N900)21:41
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eyalerHello to everyone, not so Maemo question but i'm trying to convery UYVY Fcam Image to IplImage did anybody tried?21:50
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eyaleranybody here?21:59
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eyalerwell... hello22:01
tadzikhello :) No, I didn't convert any fcam images, sorry22:01
eyalerit okay.. i also didn't do it :-)22:02
kubahahahello everyone22:02
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Drathiropenmedia is a litte enchancd version of mediaplayer...22:12
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