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| vi_ | has anyone mirrored the nokai binary repos? | 00:17 |
| RzR | yes | 00:22 |
| RzR | but we can not legally publish it | 00:22 |
| RzR | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87808 | 00:23 |
| SpeedEvil | well, you can in 2202 or so... | 00:25 |
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| RzR | SpeedEvil, then the world is safe, time to go for a 200 year hibernation | 00:27 |
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| Luke-Jr | is it gone already? | 00:28 |
| RzR | #define it | 00:28 |
| vi_ | RzR: but people can still use them? | 00:28 |
| Luke-Jr | if not, is there a simple script to download a mirror? | 00:28 |
| Pali | kerio, I updated deb packages of rx51-bme-replacement: http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pali/rx51-bme-replacement/ | 00:28 |
| RzR | Luke-Jr, harmattan-dev.nokia.com is gone | 00:29 |
| Pali | there was problem in dsme plugin (it was bad compiled) | 00:29 |
| Pali | and added fixed syslog support to other packages | 00:29 |
| Luke-Jr | RzR: how about N900 stuff? :P | 00:30 |
| vi_ | Is there an easy way for people to create mirrors of the closed stuff? | 00:30 |
| vi_ | People who DNGAF if it is legal or not? | 00:31 |
| Pali | you can apt-mirror all maemo or harmattan repositorie | 00:32 |
| Pali | see: https://wiki.maemo.org/Apt-mirror | 00:32 |
| Pali | on that page are *all* repositories | 00:32 |
| Pali | free, non-free, nokia binaries and armel for device too | 00:32 |
| vi_ | Pali: ty | 00:33 |
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| vi_ | MrPingu: o/ | 00:34 |
| Pali | ping merlin1991 | 00:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mirrors of all maemo repositories been created and maintained since long, there's no particular interest from Nokia to stop this it seems | 00:35 |
| MrPingu | Vi_: evening | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: thanks! :-) | 00:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | real concern is about wiki right now I'd think | 00:36 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05, do you know where is X-Fade? | 00:37 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: pong | 00:37 |
| Pali | can he fix wiki? | 00:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: seems x-fade is the one to fix wiki, and no I don't know where he is but heard he's been not that available during last week | 00:38 |
| Pali | merlin1991, is maemo5 or harmattan sdk mirror prepared on server? | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ivgalvez and woody already contacted him afaik | 00:39 |
| Pali | so will he want to fix it? | 00:39 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: yep | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | he's supposed to | 00:39 |
| Pali | or is he going to turn off maemo? | 00:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | andre__ looked into it but hasn't enough permissions to do the needed fixing, whatever it might be | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for now there are scripts to do some wiki backup afaik | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sth to wget all pages from special_pages:all | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the mediawiki utself is a mysql database that's not exactly simple to backup the raw data from | 00:42 |
| Pali | btw, what happened to server stage.maemo.org ? | 00:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | never heard of that | 00:43 |
| Pali | there was public svn repository | 00:43 |
| Pali | of hildon and other projects... | 00:43 |
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| M4rtinK | btw, might be useful to also dump the wiki syntax for articles, if possible | 01:02 |
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| GeneralAntilles | lolnokia | 01:10 |
| GeneralAntilles | Circling the drain ever more tightly. | 01:10 |
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| M4rtinK | yeah, its bad if you can't host some fairly niche services anymore | 01:12 |
| teotwaki | GeneralAntilles: context? | 01:14 |
| GeneralAntilles | teotwaki, Maemo sites closing down. | 01:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | harmattan-dev, etc. | 01:15 |
| teotwaki | Woah | 01:15 |
| teotwaki | Need a mirror? | 01:15 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Dunno | 01:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer05 is probably the guy to ask | 01:17 |
| teotwaki | I've got a dual core (very little RAM available) with some 800GB, and a quad core with 400GB and roughly 1GB of RAM available. | 01:17 |
| GeneralAntilles | Dear And Glorious Leader | 01:17 |
| teotwaki | unlimited bandwidth for both, 100Mbit link | 01:17 |
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| mad_dev | greetings | 01:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmß | 01:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ? | 01:22 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Mirrors for maemo.org stuff. | 01:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: sounds mad useful | 01:23 |
| SpeedEvil | indeed teotwaki | 01:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: could you set up according to https://wiki.maemo.org/Apt-mirror *all* for a start? | 01:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd hope 800GB is about enough storage for that | 01:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | might even leave some space for a wiki backup, if I ever (find someone who knows where to) find that perl(?) script to wget all shite from wiki.maemo.org | 01:25 |
| SpeedEvil | :-) | 01:25 |
| teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: the quad core with 400GB runs a full debian mirror | 01:26 |
| teotwaki | which is 600GB roughly | 01:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 01:26 |
| SpeedEvil | wiki is annoying to mirror. :'( | 01:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | indeed | 01:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we'll for sure lose history | 01:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but then, history isn't THAT important for most wiki pages | 01:27 |
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| teotwaki | do I need to patch apt-mirror? | 01:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it seems there are already 95 others doing a wiki wget * | 01:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | response times are worse than usual even for weekends | 01:28 |
| GeneralAntilles | How in the world would this not be prepped for? | 01:30 |
| GeneralAntilles | and how would Nokia just start shutting off without notification. . . | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | prepped? | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | GeneralAntilles: I'm not suspecting any intentional shutdown | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just usual bitrot that doesn't see maintenance to fix shit | 01:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: no idea, don't think so according to that apt-mirror wikipage | 01:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just concatenate all the white boxes on that page and place them into the apt config file? maybe check for redundancies or conflicts regarding the initial env setup in each of the boxes | 01:33 |
| teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: I can host everything in the same repo? No conflicting repo names? | 01:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | eeew >>Mirroring downloads.maemo.nokia.com is not possible with current apt-mirror version because nokia server needs to receive Basic HTTP Authentication via HTTPS protocol and apt-mirror does not support it.<< | 01:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: honestly, no faintest clue. I never looked into all that before | 01:34 |
| teotwaki | I'm going to try on the quad core | 01:34 |
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| teotwaki | it's a dedicated mirror host | 01:34 |
| teotwaki | the dual core is a dev machine (firestarter project) | 01:35 |
| teotwaki | it also happens to run my seedbox... :P | 01:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though: >>This problem was reported in ubuntu bug #1015131 with patch apt-mirror-https.patch<< | 01:36 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/1015131 was not found. | 01:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | shutup povbot | 01:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | seems that wiki 'mirror' script I can't recall details of been based on http://wiki.maemo.org/Special:AllPages | 01:41 |
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| Skry | static mirroring should be possible with wget without any scripts, I suppose it's impossible to gain access to db itsel? | 01:48 |
| Skry | I would also love to offer some hosting but I have only 10Mbit up so kind of pointless. | 01:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ...plus - probably - http://wiki.maemo.org/Special:Export | 01:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: ever tried to do a braindead wget of more than nesting-level=0 wikipages? | 01:50 |
| Skry | I think I tried few years back, resulted in a complete mess but at least the data was somewhat there :D | 01:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I actually did, on another mediawiki. The size was about 100 times that of the original data, thanks to back-links, special pages, circular links | 01:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ... | 01:52 |
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| trumee | so is jolla going to release hardware specs on 21st Nov? | 01:52 |
| trumee | or will it be simply unveiling sailfish? | 01:53 |
| SpeedEvil | good question | 01:53 |
| Pali | only OS | 01:54 |
| Pali | HW will be after november | 01:54 |
| nox- | lets hope they dont use aegis... | 01:55 |
| trumee | hmm, too late for me. The Note II looks tempting. | 01:56 |
| SpeedEvil | similarly n4 | 01:56 |
| GeneralAntilles | Android | 01:56 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yuck | 01:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tbh I'm not excited about jolla anymore. They're perpetuating the Nokia practice of "develop behind closed doors, even down in the souterrain, then eventually throw stuff over the wall" | 01:56 |
| SpeedEvil | I'm holding off for at least a few months | 01:56 |
| SpeedEvil | and yes | 01:56 |
| SpeedEvil | I agree yuk | 01:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer05, let 'em announce a platform before you decide that. :P | 01:57 |
| trumee | although nobody replied to my questions, http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1289795&postcount=623 | 01:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | Besides, it's certainly going to be better than Android. | 01:57 |
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| trumee | GeneralAntilles: the only app i really care about is a commercial satnav program. otherwise if Jolla doesnt offer that, will have to give it a miss :( | 01:59 |
| trumee | Sygic even with its random crashes has been ok on N900 | 02:00 |
| teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: lots of 404's | 02:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dang | 02:00 |
| teotwaki | on the fremantle opera stuff | 02:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh | 02:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well | 02:01 |
| trumee | SpeedEvil: n4 doesnt have microsd? | 02:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | what's n4? | 02:01 |
| * trumee hopes that sip is usable on Jolla unlike in N900 | 02:02 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: just ignore them? | 02:02 |
| trumee | DocScrutinizer05: nexus 4 | 02:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | trumee: thanks | 02:02 |
| teotwaki | trumee: no, no expansion ports on the n4 | 02:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | trumee: I'm using SIP all the time with N900 and even N810, works just fine for me | 02:03 |
| trumee | teotwaki: that sucks | 02:03 |
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| trumee | DocScrutinizer05: very unreliable for me. that is one of the reasons of going to android. They have two excellent programs, sipdroid and csipsimple which even support srtp | 02:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, don't see how srtp makes stuff more stable | 02:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | btw probably srtp is a deadend design | 02:05 |
| trumee | DocScrutinizer05: it is stable because freepbx devs actually use android | 02:05 |
| trumee | DocScrutinizer05: and srtp is a additional functionality not present on N900 | 02:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I know what's SRTP | 02:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I gzuess | 02:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and I think it's inferior to ZRTP | 02:06 |
| trumee | thats a moot point since maemo doesnt support zrtp | 02:07 |
| trumee | and csipsimple seems to support zrtp | 02:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, whatever you define as moot point then | 02:07 |
| Pali | ~srtp | 02:07 |
| trumee | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10388#c39, http://174.132.148.146/ivr.wav | 02:08 |
| povbot | Bug 10388: Choppy audio in SIP conversation, WLAN power save problem? | 02:08 |
| Pali | ~zrtp | 02:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since N900 also doesn't support SRTP, how's that not a moot point? | 02:08 |
| Pali | what is that srtp? | 02:08 |
| Pali | some closed stupid think? | 02:08 |
| trumee | thats recording from my freepbx server ivr | 02:08 |
| trumee | Pali: encryption for sip calls | 02:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | RealTimeProtocol, Secure | 02:08 |
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| trumee | s/freepbx/freeswitch | 02:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and Zimmerman | 02:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ~wiki zrtp | 02:11 |
| infobot | At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZRTP (URL), Wikipedia explains: "'ZRTP' is a cryptographic key-agreement protocol to negotiate the keys for encryption between two end points in a Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) phone telephony call based on the Real-time Transport Protocol. It uses Diffie-Hellman key exchange and the Secure Real-time Transport Protocol (SRTP) for encryption. ZRTP was developed by Phil Zimmermann, with help from Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn ... | 02:12 |
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| * trumee handed over his N900 to Nokia Care for usb repair today | 02:13 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | omg | 02:13 |
| merlin1991 | trumee: that's never coming back ;) | 02:13 |
| trumee | N95 sip is excellent and works very will with my server where N900 fails | 02:13 |
| trumee | merlin1991: it is out of warranty, so should be ok. | 02:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, good point | 02:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | let's hope they're not kind | 02:15 |
| trumee | :) | 02:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for goodwill we replaced your N900 by a 3310 | 02:15 |
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| teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: kolab.org? | 02:17 |
| teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: important or not? | 02:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dunno | 02:18 |
| teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: it's making apt-mirror fall over | 02:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | never heard of it | 02:18 |
| teotwaki | http://files.kolab.org/local/maemo/dists/fremantle/unstable/source/Sources.gz | 02:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, comment out everything that fails | 02:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | gibberish | 02:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | contains one jq837urw file | 02:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | broken | 02:20 |
| teotwaki | --2012-11-11 01:23:47-- http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/dists/harmattan/41667a5bd857be02f487c2ce806fbf85/Contents-i386.bz2 | 02:23 |
| teotwaki | Reusing existing connection to harmattan-dev.nokia.com:80. | 02:23 |
| teotwaki | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 504 Gateway Time-out | 02:23 |
| teotwaki | 2012-11-11 01:24:21 ERROR 504: Gateway Time-out. | 02:23 |
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| merlin1991 | harmattan-dev in its whole is down atm | 02:25 |
| Pali | teotwaki, harmattan is down | 02:25 |
| teotwaki | ah | 02:25 |
| teotwaki | so whole harmattan-dev? | 02:26 |
| teotwaki | merlin1991 & Pali ^ | 02:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, that's why there's a general sense of "let's mirror whatever still available" now | 02:30 |
| teotwaki | meh | 02:34 |
| teotwaki | some Source files are invalid | 02:34 |
| teotwaki | again, making apt-mirror crapping out | 02:34 |
| teotwaki | now I have to weed through a 100 files trying to find the one that's got shit in it | 02:35 |
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| merlin1991 | yeah there are some md5sum mismatches in the -extras repo aswell | 02:41 |
| merlin1991 | though apt-mirror happily dl those for me | 02:41 |
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| RzR | got full archive ? | 02:53 |
| RzR | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Discussion/showthread.php?238318-Harmattan-dev-down# The Community Groups Service has been discontinued. | 02:54 |
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| teotwaki | merlin1991: the chinook source files were dead for me | 03:01 |
| teotwaki | merlin1991: downloading 200GB of archives now. | 03:01 |
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| teotwaki | 11.7MB/s, not bad. | 03:03 |
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| teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: ^ | 03:04 |
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| teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ | 03:11 |
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| RzR | teotwaki, thx | 03:13 |
| teotwaki | RzR: my pleasure | 03:15 |
| RzR | some pple have harmattan backups too | 03:16 |
| RzR | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87808 | 03:16 |
| RzR | 41G/Volumes/WD1TB/Nokia/N9/ | 03:16 |
| teotwaki | 11G/home/mirror/maemo-mirror | 03:18 |
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| teotwaki | RzR: can you post to that thread, with a link to the above mirror? | 03:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: great! many thanks! :-) | 03:25 |
| teotwaki | RzR: I'll have someone post whenever the clone is finished, looking at the speed, should be tomorrow | 03:25 |
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| RzR | teotwaki, sure | 03:26 |
| RzR | teotwaki, added http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1292664#post1292664 | 03:27 |
| teotwaki | sweet | 03:29 |
| teotwaki | linux mint mirror, and now maemo mirror ;) cool | 03:29 |
| RzR | i am wget it | 03:30 |
| RzR | is this legal ? | 03:30 |
| teotwaki | who cares | 03:30 |
| teotwaki | like Nokia is actually going to annoy anyone with stuff they're deleting from their servers | 03:30 |
| RzR | well the future of our community depends on the possibility of doing legal stuff | 03:31 |
| RzR | i am thinking about a fundation etc | 03:31 |
| Snafu777 | What future | 03:31 |
| RzR | Snafu777, shut up please | 03:31 |
| RzR | no offence | 03:31 |
| RzR | but i am enough w/ bad news | 03:31 |
| Snafu777 | Stephen Elop is a dumbass | 03:31 |
| Snafu777 | and dont tell me to shutup | 03:31 |
| teotwaki | chill guys | 03:32 |
| Snafu777 | He's the reason there aint no damn future... | 03:32 |
| Snafu777 | The dude went with a microsoft platform | 03:32 |
| RzR | really ? | 03:32 |
| Snafu777 | yeah | 03:32 |
| RzR | i am not aware of that | 03:32 |
| teotwaki | Snafu777: he's an ex microsoft exec, what did you expect? | 03:32 |
| Snafu777 | Nokias demise can be thanked to the CEO | 03:32 |
| Snafu777 | I wouldnt be surprised if someone bought em out | 03:32 |
| Snafu777 | and soon | 03:32 |
| Snafu777 | check out their stock performance over 5 yrs | 03:33 |
| Snafu777 | Nokia politics aside, anyone here play with an N900? | 03:33 |
| RzR | if microsoft were that dangerous we would all know about it | 03:33 |
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| Snafu777 | microsoft and apple, same breed | 03:33 |
| Snafu777 | They dont believe in free and open source | 03:33 |
| teotwaki | apple doesn't believe in free software? | 03:34 |
| Snafu777 | Is this conversation serious? | 03:34 |
| RzR | seems not | 03:34 |
| teotwaki | Oh shit, better not use BSD unices, or cups ;) | 03:34 |
| Snafu777 | Anyone here own a N900? | 03:35 |
| teotwaki | Snafu777: I own 3. | 03:35 |
| SpeedEvil | Snafu777: just one. | 03:35 |
| merlin1991 | Snafu777: no way you're on the #maemo channel which is the specific os only used on the n900 and expect people to actually own a n900? | 03:35 |
| SpeedEvil | not only | 03:36 |
| RzR | teotwaki, i plan to upload some srcs to cobs to check if they can build on harmattan | 03:36 |
| SpeedEvil | 770/... | 03:36 |
| teotwaki | merlin1991: your server is slow : | 03:36 |
| teotwaki | :P** | 03:36 |
| merlin1991 | teotwaki: dafuq? | 03:36 |
| Snafu777 | U can put an OS on any phone merlin | 03:36 |
| teotwaki | am only getting 5MBit from it | 03:36 |
| Snafu777 | Just cuz its maemo doesnt mean its restricted to the n900 | 03:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Snafu777: that's nonsense | 03:37 |
| merlin1991 | SpeedEvil: hit me if I'm wrong, but os2008 and friends didn't have codenmae maemo but diablo and different stuff | 03:37 |
| Snafu777 | Really? | 03:37 |
| merlin1991 | teotwaki: what are you doing to my server? | 03:37 |
| teotwaki | Snafu777: in about 2 minutes, I'm about to kick you out of this channel for being such a troll | 03:37 |
| Snafu777 | So that's why I got proxychains working on the N900 and dhcp3-server | 03:37 |
| Snafu777 | Go for it, fuck u buddy | 03:37 |
| teotwaki | merlin1991: archiving it | 03:37 |
| merlin1991 | why? :D | 03:37 |
| merlin1991 | why don't you rape the official repo? :D | 03:37 |
| teotwaki | merlin1991: I am, at 80MBit/s | 03:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Snafu777: second warning, this time from me | 03:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | lol | 03:38 |
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| merlin1991 | teotwaki: quite possibly lighttpd isn't configured for high throughput :D | 03:38 |
| teotwaki | 26G/home/mirror/maemo-mirror | 03:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: I guess when your server is in that wiki page list for apt-mirror then that's the reason | 03:41 |
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| RzR | omg | 03:41 |
| RzR | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Discussion/showthread.php?238318-Harmattan-dev-down&p=906282#post906282 | 03:41 |
| merlin1991 | that's only -devel and -thumb in that list, together quite somall :D | 03:41 |
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| RzR | merlin1991, hi http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87808# | 03:42 |
| RzR | merlin1991, could you mirror that too ? | 03:42 |
| merlin1991 | the wiki I could mirror, but I have no proper tool | 03:43 |
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| RzR | well let's create a basic backup and archive file | 03:44 |
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| teotwaki | merlin1991: what else should be archived? | 03:45 |
| teotwaki | merlin1991: other than -devel and -thumb? | 03:45 |
| merlin1991 | from my server? nothing | 03:45 |
| RzR | harmattan dev | 03:45 |
| teotwaki | RzR: if you've got a url I can DL it from, sure | 03:46 |
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| Snafu777 | Hmm | 03:46 |
| merlin1991 | I do have tar.gz from the harmattan-dev developer library | 03:46 |
| RzR | welcome back Snafu777 | 03:46 |
| Snafu777 | hi | 03:46 |
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| merlin1991 | (it had a page to dl images) | 03:46 |
| Snafu777 | Seems that I have a "difference" of opinion from a couple people here... | 03:46 |
| Snafu777 | So my apologies.... | 03:46 |
| RzR | some pple said to have backup of h-d | 03:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | RzR: that whole thread on devel.nokia.com sounds just like mere panic mode | 03:47 |
| teotwaki | I still have 1TB of disk space on my two main servers | 03:47 |
| teotwaki | so feel free to PM me repos I should add to my list | 03:47 |
| RzR | this will be usefull soon or later | 03:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | RzR: at least there's no statement from nokia in it? just questions and requests | 03:47 |
| RzR | no | 03:47 |
| RzR | but the attack on oss from ms is kinda possible | 03:48 |
| RzR | look what happended w/ novel | 03:48 |
| RzR | this is not the day | 03:48 |
| merlin1991 | btw teotwaki any reason why you didn't make the dists/ folders avaiable in your mirror? | 03:48 |
| teotwaki | merlin1991: I just used apt-mirror, what you see is what it's spitting out | 03:49 |
| merlin1991 | it spits a dists folder out too ;) | 03:49 |
| merlin1991 | for each folder you should have pool and dists | 03:50 |
| teotwaki | merlin1991: don't forget it's still syncing | 03:50 |
| teotwaki | only 30GB out of 200 | 03:51 |
| merlin1991 | ah yeah true index are exported last | 03:51 |
| merlin1991 | *indices* | 03:51 |
| merlin1991 | nice, somebody is trying to bruteforce my ssh password again | 03:52 |
| merlin1991 | won't they ever stop? | 03:52 |
| teotwaki | merlin1991: move your ssh port to something random | 03:52 |
| teotwaki | something like 32123 | 03:53 |
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| merlin1991 | weirdly enough it's always the mailserver box from some $cheapo domain | 03:53 |
| merlin1991 | seems people never update their postfix/whatever and get ssh scan zombis on regular basis | 03:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pop3 scanned like mad on my box | 03:56 |
| merlin1991 | hm the best thing though is, that they don't even brute force root but rather random user names | 03:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, always same nonsense | 03:56 |
| merlin1991 | hm shouldn't sshd have some sort of delay after a certain count of attempts? | 03:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | my syslogs on some days are 10 times larger than usual | 03:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | duh, nope | 03:57 |
| RzR | bbl | 03:57 |
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| merlin1991 | du -hs /var/log 236M /var/log | 03:58 |
| merlin1991 | :/ | 03:58 |
| teotwaki | seriously, moving sshd to a random port has removed every single scan attemt | 03:58 |
| teotwaki | 5.2M/var/log | 03:58 |
| merlin1991 | my problem is, that I have normal people using the server aswell | 03:58 |
| teotwaki | and? | 03:59 |
| merlin1991 | I don't trust 50% of them to be able to enter a custom ssh port :D | 03:59 |
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| teotwaki | rZr: belgian? | 04:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: (move 22) yep, doing this since ages | 04:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: if they can't enter the port, they probably shouldn't be allowed to enter anything to the shell commandline either | 04:03 |
| merlin1991 | but they might use a gui tool for scp ;) | 04:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | after all it's easy to specify the port, even in PuTTY | 04:04 |
| merlin1991 | uh putty is a pain | 04:04 |
| teotwaki | 42G/home/mirror/maemo-mirror | 04:04 |
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| merlin1991 | teotwaki: to put you into perspective: 113G for extras extras-devel cssu and cssu-stable | 04:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's a script/daemon I forgot the name of, which denies any access from IP addr that tried some attack | 04:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kinda auto blacklist | 04:06 |
| merlin1991 | 5.7 G for the maemo sdk, 7.7 for the harmattan sdk | 04:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | tarpit? | 04:07 |
| merlin1991 | and another 19G for the various SSU repos | 04:07 |
| teotwaki | merlin1991: to put it in perspective | 04:07 |
| teotwaki | 487G/home/mirror/lmde | 04:07 |
| merlin1991 | linux mint debian? | 04:07 |
| teotwaki | aye | 04:07 |
| teotwaki | http://lmde-mirror-fr-1.wedrop.it | 04:08 |
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| merlin1991 | and 47G for the pre maemo stuff | 04:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems we got a nice family meeting here, btw | 04:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | GeneralAntilles, teotwaki aka crashanddie, merlin1991, me... | 04:10 |
| merlin1991 | iptables -A INPUT -s mail.m-cubed.com -j DROP take that friggin scanner scum ;) | 04:10 |
| teotwaki | merlin1991: syncing LMDE took nearly 48 hours, because their server was so dead | 04:11 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: what kind of dysfunctional family do we form? | 04:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: I think that tarpit(?) script actually did sth like that, just that it picked the source IPs from syslog | 04:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: must be the Bundy's | 04:11 |
| Snafu777 | merlin1991: why not honeypot the sshd? | 04:12 |
| teotwaki | there's a nice script (greypit?) that basically doubles the login delay for every failed attempt | 04:12 |
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| Snafu777 | or force key usage? | 04:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | greypit! | 04:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's it | 04:12 |
| teotwaki | anyway | 04:12 |
| teotwaki | I'm going to sign off | 04:12 |
| teotwaki | 3AM here | 04:12 |
| merlin1991 | hm google finds nothing on greypit | 04:12 |
| merlin1991 | teotwaki: here aswell ;) | 04:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: o/ | 04:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | here too ;-) | 04:13 |
| Snafu777 | why not use keys for yer sshd merlin1991? | 04:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Snafu777: you think he doesn't | 04:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | ? | 04:13 |
| merlin1991 | Snafu777: that still doesn't stop $stupid scanner to try a bazzillion different user / key combos | 04:13 |
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| Snafu777 | If u only allow keys...? | 04:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *sigh* | 04:14 |
| Snafu777 | My sshd is set to only allow keys, and therefore they could bruteforce all they want with no attempt to login,,,, | 04:14 |
| merlin1991 | Snafu777: keys only is in the protocoll level I'd still get a syn ack ... and the first hello message for each attempt | 04:14 |
| Snafu777 | So if yer using keys and keys only, then why do u even care about bruteforce? | 04:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | because | 04:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it spams our syslog | 04:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | using out bandwidth | 04:15 |
| Snafu777 | So fight back then? | 04:15 |
| merlin1991 | because traffic, syslog spam, and the rage that $random muppet tries to haxx0r my server | 04:16 |
| Snafu777 | So why not fight back? | 04:16 |
| Snafu777 | Honeypot it up | 04:16 |
| teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: fail2ban might be the one we're looking for | 04:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | greypit | 04:16 |
| teotwaki | or denyhosts | 04:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes!!!! | 04:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | now I'm sure he said 2fail2ban" | 04:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | "fail2ban" | 04:17 |
| teotwaki | there's greylist also | 04:17 |
| teotwaki | and greyfix (greylisting for postfix) | 04:17 |
| Snafu777 | So why not fight back merlin1991? | 04:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nah, fail2ban been what a sysop suggested to me | 04:18 |
| teotwaki | Snafu777: because fighting back is useless | 04:18 |
| Snafu777 | How so? | 04:18 |
| teotwaki | Snafu777: basically, you're fighting ghosts: machines that have already been compromised. | 04:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's like this conversation | 04:19 |
| Snafu777 | So find the info needed to tell u who the owner of the box is | 04:19 |
| teotwaki | The owner of the machine doesn't know what's happening, he's just a blistering idiot who doesn't know how to securely setup a server, but he's not guilty of anything | 04:19 |
| Snafu777 | and inform them | 04:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | short "attack" - lots of effort to answer | 04:19 |
| teotwaki | aye | 04:19 |
| teotwaki | and on Doc's wise words | 04:19 |
| teotwaki | 'night | 04:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | result: zarro | 04:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | n8 teotwaki | 04:20 |
| teotwaki | 51G/home/mirror/maemo-mirror | 04:20 |
| teotwaki | night | 04:20 |
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| M4rtinK | night :) | 04:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I ran a script I called nmaptheidiots for a while | 04:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it triggered an nmap against each machine doing anything rogue to my home IP | 04:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | funny to watch, but result = 0 | 04:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just using up more resources | 04:23 |
| SpeedEvil | make a compromisable shell, then try to log in to the attacker using the uploaded credential | 04:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | one result though: most of those machines been windows boxes and had a lot of open ports | 04:24 |
| Skry | no idea if this is necessary but I'm downloading xml export of the wiki with history, does someone want it when it's finished? | 04:25 |
| merlin1991 | Skry: doesn't that run per page? | 04:26 |
| merlin1991 | or can you dump everything at once? | 04:26 |
| Skry | I grabbed all the pages from AllPages and did some grep and sed magic -> xclip -> Export page | 04:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SpeedEvil: yeah! then start a clone of that on the hax0r'd machine, so any attack against that machine will spread the antivirus. and after some days (configurable) do a rm -rf /*/* | 04:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: how you're doing that? | 04:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: and sure, I'd love to get it | 04:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah, you wrote your own script | 04:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1292861#post1292861 | 04:29 |
| merlin1991 | Skry: when it's finished it would be great if you could tar that up and put it somewhere | 04:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | amazing what can be done on one afternoon :-D | 04:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rZr: one question though: why-o-why has this thread to be a *poll*? | 04:31 |
| Skry | I did wget --convert-links for pages in AllPages, then, cat ./* | grep -o '<a .*href=.*>' | sed -e 's/<a/\n<a/g' | sed -e 's/<a .*href=['"'"'"]//' -e 's/["'"'"'].*$//' -e '/^$/ d' | grep http\:\/\/wiki.maemo.org\/ | sed 's/^http\:\/\/wiki.maemo.org\///' | sed '/index.php/d' | sed -n 'G; s/\n/&&/; /^\([ -~]*\n\).*\n\1/d; s/\n//; h; P' | sort | xclip and pasted the result in export page | 04:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lemme documet that | 04:32 |
| Skry | might have something not needed magic too, grabbed part of it from my snippets file, anyways, it gets the page names correctly | 04:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: I noticed there are no categories in allpages | 04:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | e.g. hardware:* | 04:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, depending on your selection | 04:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I found none that's really giving *all* pages | 04:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems namespace:(main)|talk|user|category is minimum we'd need | 04:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | + |category-talk | 04:38 |
| Skry | well, that has everything listed by allpages, going at 256MB so far, so I guess it has at least something to read :) | 04:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm | 04:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | category has ~ 10 times as many pages as (main) | 04:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | it seems | 04:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wait, what do you mean by "everything listed by allpages" ? | 04:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | everything listed by any namespace of allpages? | 04:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or everything listed by default namespace:(main) only? | 04:46 |
| Skry | those 6 links at http://wiki.maemo.org/Special:AllPages , everything listed by them | 04:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | meh | 04:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's about a few percent of what we need | 04:48 |
| Skry | well, is there any page(s) which would have links to rest of the stuff? | 04:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Special%3AAllPages&from=&to=&namespace=6 | 04:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Special%3AAllPages&from=&to=&namespace=2 | 04:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Special%3AAllPages&from=&to=&namespace=1 | 04:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Special%3AAllPages&from=100Days&to=Wiki+gardeners&namespace=14 | 04:50 |
| Skry | ok, I'm assuming I'm now downloading the (main) now, am I right? | 04:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 04:51 |
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| Skry | DocScrutinizer05: if I throw you text file with all the names, could you download the export? I'm on slow 3G currently and that would take forever apparently | 04:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | could do that | 04:52 |
| Skry | ok, just a second | 04:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just need to find a way to do that on my server box, since I'm not eager to use my even slower-than-3G DSL line here for that | 04:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: could you help? | 04:54 |
| merlin1991 | Skry: throw me the txt file and a lil hint for the right wget parameter :D | 04:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: >>... and pasted the result in export page | 04:55 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: >> not going todo that on a headless server ;) | 04:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Special:Export | 04:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's exactly my problem | 04:56 |
| merlin1991 | do we want the history? | 04:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if feasible | 04:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though that will make the wvolume explode | 04:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | probably by factor 50 | 04:57 |
| merlin1991 | hm it's a simple post with curonly=1 and then all pages as a list | 04:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though it should compress nicely then ;-P | 04:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hey, I'm actually a tad tired meanwhile | 04:58 |
| merlin1991 | and wpDownload = 1 aswell | 04:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | could've known how to tackle it | 04:59 |
| merlin1991 | gimme a sec | 04:59 |
| merlin1991 | curl afaik has a nice post parameter | 04:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway df on my server is ~20G, so I'd prefer to dl it on a larger space | 05:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though... 20G might just suffice | 05:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | btw there has to exist a damn script for ecactly all that | 05:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and you're aware those are XML content, so basically useless until imported to another wiki | 05:03 |
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| merlin1991 | at least "easily" parseable :D | 05:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yoh | 05:03 |
| merlin1991 | Skry: got anywhere with that file? | 05:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's a bit of work to finish that | 05:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | from e.g http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Special%3AAllPages&from=&to=&namespace=6 you need to follow the links, to collect the pieces | 05:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Special:AllPages&namespace=6&from=01_MADDE_create_key.jpg&to=EnterCatalogDetails.png | 05:06 |
| Snafu777 | Anyone here get curl working for the n900? | 05:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Special:AllPages&namespace=6&from=EricWarnke.jpg&to=Maemo.org_logo_contest_femorandeira_7.png | 05:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | etc | 05:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Snafu777: afaik curl is working on fremantle, yes | 05:07 |
| Snafu777 | Hmm | 05:07 |
| Snafu777 | deb repo? not finding it searching like i am | 05:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there's been a patch for some SSL stuff iirc | 05:07 |
| Snafu777 | Not showing in the maemo repos | 05:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/view/curl/ | 05:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.org/packages/ is your friend | 05:09 |
| Skry | merlin1991: yeah, there are _lot_ of shit, i need to do some automation obviously, meanwhile, heres the main namespace, just paste everything in it to export page (link earlier) and download | 05:09 |
| Snafu777 | ty | 05:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yw | 05:09 |
| Skry | merlin1991: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49989728/maemo_wiki_main.txt | 05:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Snafu777: enable extras-devel repo, apt-cache search curl | 05:10 |
| Snafu777 | lookin, hang tight, ill let u know if it works, i dont think it will as i tried the other night | 05:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | apt-get install curl; disable extras-devel again | 05:12 |
| Snafu777 | i think it required things that werent available, but i will let ya know | 05:13 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: curl -X POST -d curonly=1 -d wpDownload=1 --data-urlencode pages=@$FILEHERE http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Special:Export&action=submit | 05:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: I gather you expect me to run that on my server now? | 05:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 05:14 |
| merlin1991 | running it here now :D | 05:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok :-D | 05:14 |
| merlin1991 | just in case you wanted to know the command :D | 05:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure, updating dat tmo post | 05:14 |
| merlin1991 | hm not working though | 05:15 |
| Skry | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49989728/maemo_wiki_file.txt | 05:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess it still is not including the files | 05:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hah | 05:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Skry beaten me on it | 05:17 |
| merlin1991 | hm somehow it seems to foobar the request | 05:17 |
| Skry | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49989728/maemo_wiki_user.txt | 05:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | probably too long argument | 05:19 |
| luf | DocScrutinizer05: I think curl is also in extras-testing and maybe even in extras. But if I remember it well the newest version is in CSSU-testing ;) | 05:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep, and has some fix | 05:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | afaik | 05:20 |
| Skry | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49989728/maemo_wiki_talk.txt | 05:21 |
| merlin1991 | dang such a small typo | 05:22 |
| merlin1991 | but it only loaded 12m | 05:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mind to post the corrected version? | 05:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (about to edit that tmo post) | 05:24 |
| merlin1991 | curl -X POST -d catname= -d curonly=1 -d wpDownload=1 --data-urlencode pages@$PAGESFILE -o $OUTFILE http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Special:Export&action=submit | 05:25 |
| merlin1991 | do we want the xml with or without history? | 05:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | with | 05:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if that doesn't nuke your server storage | 05:27 |
| merlin1991 | hm how can I set up a temporary quota for a folder? | 05:28 |
| merlin1991 | never tired such a thing | 05:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dunno if the xml has the diffs or full versions | 05:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err, how about setting up a quota for a subshell? | 05:28 |
| merlin1991 | or that | 05:28 |
| * merlin1991 never worked with quotas before nfc what possibilities there are | 05:29 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ulimit | 05:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | should suffice | 05:29 |
| merlin1991 | no manual entry for ulimit | 05:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | man bash | 05:30 |
| merlin1991 | oh it's part of bash | 05:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think quota have to be enabled on mount time | 05:30 |
| merlin1991 | hm 400gb free space | 05:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | true quota | 05:30 |
| merlin1991 | should suffice | 05:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 05:31 |
| Skry | this was a bitch.. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49989728/maemo_wiki_category.txt | 05:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | toldya | 05:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 05:35 |
| Skry | ooooops dont use that | 05:35 |
| Skry | forgot subcategories, fuuuuu :D | 05:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lol | 05:36 |
| Skry | gonna have a smoke first, then take 2 | 05:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | k | 05:36 |
| merlin1991 | hm with and without the curonly parameter the output is the same | 05:36 |
| merlin1991 | watf? | 05:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | we *should* make a nice script outa all that | 05:38 |
| merlin1991 | seems the curonly flag is for shits ang iggle only | 05:38 |
| merlin1991 | hm wait | 05:38 |
| * merlin1991 has an idea | 05:38 | |
| merlin1991 | the webform looks so bad already I bet curonly=0 has the same effect as curonly=1 you probably need NO curonly for history | 05:38 |
| merlin1991 | yep | 05:39 |
| merlin1991 | suddenly there's data | 05:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hah | 05:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nice catch | 05:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I bet it checks for "curonly=" ;-P | 05:40 |
| merlin1991 | I bet It's a simple if(isset($_POST['curonly'])) { bla } | 05:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or that | 05:41 |
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| merlin1991 | though you're right, that wiki probably relies on magic variables so it does somehting like if($curonly) | 05:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | du? | 05:42 |
| merlin1991 | whover had the idea to automatically translate form input to variables in a global scope should be killed | 05:42 |
| merlin1991 | it's php feature (with a huge DO NOT USE warning these days) | 05:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rather du -hs | 05:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | "subject: hello dear new friend! - from: mama" SUUUURE | 05:44 |
| merlin1991 | at least the internationalized the from field ;) | 05:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | still no mail "inviting" me to council | 05:46 |
| merlin1991 | btw is wiki editing still not working? | 05:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | good question, I bet nobody ficed it yet | 05:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>User account "Joerg rw" is not registered. Please check if you want to create/edit this page.<< | 05:47 |
| merlin1991 | well without the categories pages we have 532 mb | 05:47 |
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| merlin1991 | though the File: pages are rather err useless | 05:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | gathered as much, you'll need to wget them directly I guess | 05:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | file packed in XML? nah! | 05:48 |
| merlin1991 | they don't even pack a link to the file :/ | 05:49 |
| merlin1991 | only the description | 05:49 |
| Skry | I'm getting the images too | 05:49 |
| merlin1991 | how? | 05:50 |
| Skry | --recursive | 05:50 |
| Skry | forgot to put some ignore urls there so it looks like its fetching images currently | 05:50 |
| merlin1991 | that's not over the export interface of the wiki though | 05:50 |
| Skry | nope | 05:50 |
| merlin1991 | all I got was a bazillion pages with File: somename that had info about the creator | 05:51 |
| merlin1991 | the image content nowhere to be found | 05:51 |
| Skry | looks like hitting the category page with recursive fetches images, docs and so on | 05:51 |
| Snafu777 | curl: relocation error: curl: symbol curl_dostrdup, version CURL_OPENSSL_3 not defined in file libcurl.so.4 with link time reference | 05:51 |
| Snafu777 | any tricks Doc? | 05:51 |
| merlin1991 | Skry: I only fed your data file into the export form from the wiki | 05:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | trick: get the libcurl that matches curl | 05:53 |
| merlin1991 | which in turn only gave image descriptions but no files | 05:53 |
| Snafu777 | See what I meant? Tricky to get curl working | 05:53 |
| Snafu777 | =/ | 05:53 |
| Skry | merlin1991: yeah, you can't get images etc in xml documents | 05:53 |
| merlin1991 | Skry: they could go mental and put them there base64 encoded ;) | 05:54 |
| Skry | haha, true :D | 05:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I *guess* removing 'File:' prefix will already yield a proper URL to file itself | 05:55 |
| merlin1991 | it's kinda bad though, the exported 'File: somename' pages don't contain enough info to grab the actual image files | 05:55 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: nah ie File:ZipV2-48.png is http://wiki.maemo.org/images/a/ac/ZipV2-48.png | 05:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | dafaq | 05:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Snafu777: enable extras-devel; apt-get install --reinstall libcurl | 05:57 |
| Skry | skry@Arch ~/Temp/maemo_wiki_pt1 $ ls category/actual/newactual/wiki.maemo.org/images/thumb/0/08/Lanedo.png/300px-Lanedo.png | 05:57 |
| Skry | so i guess there is some logic to get the correct image | 05:58 |
| Snafu777 | hmm | 05:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: sure, if they're referneced/linked on some page | 05:59 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: hm there's an "api" to retrieve the real url though | 05:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | OOOH | 05:59 |
| merlin1991 | http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=File:ZipV2-48.png&action=edit&externaledit=true&mode=file gives some info including the the storage url | 05:59 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 yawns a bit | 05:59 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry | 05:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry | 06:00 |
| merlin1991 | but I'm not going to write a script to grab that :D | 06:00 |
| merlin1991 | btw DocScrutinizer05 you might want to add the info about ommiting curonly for history data to your post | 06:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 06:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | next edit, when Skry has the categories file | 06:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (write a script) doesn't even render on my browser | 06:03 |
| merlin1991 | what do you mean by doesn't even render? | 06:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm | 06:05 |
| Snafu777 | lubcurl isnt available....this is ridiculous =) | 06:06 |
| Snafu777 | libcurl | 06:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Special:ListFiles http://wiki.maemo.org/Special:FilePath and TADAAAA http://wiki.maemo.org/Special:Upload | 06:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-S | 06:06 |
| Snafu777 | Its okay though, Ill port it and let ya know how Doc =) | 06:06 |
| Snafu777 | Hackin shit together is my speciality | 06:06 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: seems you found yet another api to check the full path :D | 06:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: (doesn't render) blank page, requester "open with... / save as...." | 06:07 |
| merlin1991 | yeah it's about 10 lines of text though | 06:07 |
| merlin1991 | but comes as application/something thus not rendered | 06:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-/ | 06:07 |
| merlin1991 | but yours is actually better | 06:08 |
| merlin1991 | because it directly returns the file ( I mean http://wiki.maemo.org/Special:FilePath ) | 06:08 |
| merlin1991 | it maps directly to http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Special:FilePath&file=$SOMEFILE which returns the binary data | 06:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so will this facilitate a script to download files? | 06:12 |
| Skry | oh great, by the looks of the filenames some andy has his vacation pictures from amsterdamn on wiki :D | 06:12 |
| merlin1991 | yep | 06:13 |
| Skry | this might take awhile | 06:13 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: I'd have to parse the content of my Files.xml and bulk dl :D | 06:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (Amsterdam) might be a maemo meeting | 06:16 |
| merlin1991 | damn, I have no idea how an xml sax parser works | 06:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ummm | 06:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | you're using what? | 06:19 |
| merlin1991 | I always use mighty dom parsers and query them with xpath :D | 06:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | is there sth like `sax`? | 06:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wouldn't grep suffice? or sed/awk maybe? to create a joblist from a set of files | 06:20 |
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| merlin1991 | but but I wanted to write an insanly complicated python script :/ | 06:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I mean, they are rather similar structure, no? | 06:20 |
| merlin1991 | I mean yes a simple grep >File:[^<]+ would suffice | 06:21 |
| merlin1991 | together with a bit of cut | 06:21 |
| Skry | oh why in the name of fsck there is no "export all". what. they. were. thinking! | 06:24 |
| merlin1991 | why does regex hate on me? | 06:25 |
| Skry | it hates everyone and everything | 06:25 |
| merlin1991 | "<title>File:[^<]+</title>" should match on anything <title>File:sometext</title> | 06:26 |
| merlin1991 | but it doesn't :/ | 06:26 |
| merlin1991 | 1614 image files | 06:30 |
| merlin1991 | and my script is running | 06:32 |
| Snafu777 | Bah humbug, curl is working but without SSL | 06:33 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: for shitz n giggls I did dl the images aswell | 06:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cool job | 06:35 |
| merlin1991 | or actually am dl the images | 06:35 |
| merlin1991 | since http has a HUGE overhead | 06:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (regex) escape! | 06:36 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: which part would need escaping? | 06:36 |
| merlin1991 | < / : and > are simple characters in the global context, and to my knowledge < has no special meaning in a group either | 06:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | prolly the <>, maybe :, dunno for sure | 06:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway escaping is allowed anywhare | 06:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | \c == c | 06:37 |
| merlin1991 | funnily enough <title>File:.+</title> works | 06:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | unless c has a special meaning | 06:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also actually [] might need \ | 06:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | like () need \ in some falvor of regex | 06:39 |
| merlin1991 | hm wait <title>File:.+</title> does not work <title>File:.*</title> works | 06:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there are simple regex and whatnot else, escaping is quite different between them | 06:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | + might need \ | 06:40 |
| merlin1991 | + has a special meaning | 06:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | don't ask me, it's as late here as at your place ;-) | 06:40 |
| merlin1991 | wtf excaping + works | 06:41 |
| merlin1991 | is bash going mental here? | 06:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | toldya | 06:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nah, diff between simple and whatnot regex | 06:41 |
| merlin1991 | because in the case of regex an escaped + would match a friggin + and not work as a control character | 06:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in the other flavor everything inverse | 06:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | almost everything | 06:42 |
| merlin1991 | basically <title>File:.\+</title> should match <title>File:$ONECHARHERE+</title> | 06:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ( in one is \( in the other | 06:42 |
| merlin1991 | ah well | 06:42 |
| * merlin1991 blames grep | 06:42 | |
| merlin1991 | yeah egrep has the more sane approach to + | 06:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | extended versus simple regex | 06:43 |
| merlin1991 | yeah but simple regex says anything escaped is said character | 06:44 |
| merlin1991 | so it's a grep specific extension to simple regex | 06:44 |
| merlin1991 | .... brainfuck | 06:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | man grep|less +'/--extended-regexp' | 06:44 |
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| merlin1991 | In basic regular expressions the meta-characters ?, +, {, |, (, and ) lose their special meaning; instead use the backslashed versions \?,\+, \{, \|, \(, and \). | 06:46 |
| * merlin1991 's brain is full of fuck | 06:46 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >> grep understands three different versions of regular expression syntax: “basic,” “extended” and “perl.”<< | 06:46 |
| merlin1991 | afaik all those meta characters are not part of basic regex at all | 06:47 |
| merlin1991 | hence should match the character in escaped form | 06:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, you might be right on that | 06:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so + doesn't work in grep, \+ is a gnu extension, and in egrep it's + | 06:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | regex are mere fun ;-) | 06:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | epic: >> GNU grep -E attempts to support traditional usage by assuming that { is not special if it would be the start of an invalid interval specification. For example, the command grep -E '{1' searches for the two-character string {1 instead of reporting a syntax error in the regular expression. POSIX.2 allows this behavior as an extension, but portable scripts should avoid it.<< | 06:53 |
| merlin1991 | well curl just trolled me | 06:54 |
| merlin1991 | there is a distinct option to follow http "redirectes" aka location headers | 06:54 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 looks at man grep|less +'/sl= ' and ponders having a nap | 06:57 | |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sth must be wrong with my logic processor, doesn't parse | 06:58 |
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| merlin1991 | EDOESNOTPARSE ESLEEPREQUIRED | 07:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah, >> See the Select Graphic Rendition (SGR) section in the documentation of the text terminal<< | 07:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | >> NOTES GNU's not Unix, but Unix is a beast; its plural form is Unixen.<< | 07:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: you're still with us? | 07:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-11-11 04:36:25] <Skry> gonna have a smoke first, then take 2 | 07:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: or did I miss something? | 07:06 |
| merlin1991 | nope | 07:06 |
| merlin1991 | he only said later that it might take a while | 07:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so we got all now, except categories? | 07:06 |
| merlin1991 | yep | 07:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 07:07 |
| merlin1991 | just posting the images dl snippet | 07:07 |
| Skry | DocScrutinizer05: yeah, had to ctrl-c the recursive, finnish weather -> gprs, I'm currently doing little less deep wget | 07:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | recursive wget is a bitch for that problem, since it's always "next page" "next page"... | 07:08 |
| merlin1991 | okay media dl snippet is in place aswell | 07:08 |
| Skry | yeah | 07:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there are only like 6 or 8 next pages though | 07:08 |
| devilinside | hi Doc .. got another problem. while updating to cssu, its saying ssl connection timeout | 07:10 |
| merlin1991 | well, I'm off for good, Skry higlight / pm me with the last txt when you've done it | 07:10 |
| Skry | merlin1991: sure, might need to get some sleep first though | 07:11 |
| Skry | 07:11 :S | 07:11 |
| Skry | first time I see sed doing cpu burning :D | 07:18 |
| devilinside | help ssl connection timeout wen updating to cssu.. | 07:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | try again tomorrow | 07:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: actually scratch that "6 or 8 pages" nonsense | 07:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | there are even friggin sub-categories | 07:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | with sub-categories DAFAQ | 07:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Category:Hardware http://wiki.maemo.org/Category:N900_Hardware http://wiki.maemo.org/Category:N900_Additional_Hardware | 07:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems those sub-categories are also listed on categories mainpage though | 07:43 |
| Skry | yeah, I noticed, on top to that, there are pages split into (next 200) etc, and wget keeps going in circles, and so on | 07:45 |
| Skry | I'm pretty sure I'm going to miss some entries but I would say having most is better thatn having nothing | 07:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | HMMPF!! http://wiki.maemo.org/Batteries is under http://wiki.maemo.org/Category:Hardware but also under (main)->http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Special:AllPages&from=ALARMED_Commands_List&to=Documentation%2FMaemo_5_Developer_Guide%2FUsing_Generic_Platform_Components | 07:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so I wonder if we need sub-categories at all | 07:49 |
| devilinside | SOLVED.. didn update using wifi.. had to use gprs | 07:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or if maybe those are just "directories" finally ending on a (main)-page leaf | 07:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | devilinside: never heard of such problem resp such solution | 07:50 |
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| SpeedEvil | I thin I only did 2 levels of categories | 08:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: merlin1991: wget http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Special%3AAllPages&from=&to=&namespace=14 deepth=1 should suffice | 08:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SpeedEvil: there's actually only the URL above which has all the links needed to get | 08:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | these are all category pages existing, and they link to other categories (same location) and to "leaf pages" which are in "(main)" | 08:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so single derefernciation is sufficient | 08:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wget http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Special%3AAllPages&from=&to=&namespace=14 and all the pages linked in there | 08:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, for downloading we want file with list of pages from http://wiki.maemo.org/index.php?title=Special%3AAllPages&from=&to=&namespace=14, to feed to the XML download API | 08:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | this gives us XML of all "Category:*" | 08:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | together with all files listed on "(main)" we get about 95% | 08:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rest is "File:*" and "User:*" | 08:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | a lil bit of talk | 08:13 |
| Skry | oh | 08:13 |
| Skry | :D | 08:13 |
| Skry | well, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49989728/maemo_wiki_category.txt | 08:14 |
| Skry | I'll make one which has all entries I got and no duplicates | 08:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I ponder to write a script | 08:20 |
| Skry | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49989728/maemo_wiki_pages.txt | 08:21 |
| Skry | no quarantee theres even remotely all | 08:22 |
| Skry | it's been something like 8 years since I last touched bsd, now I just have to try since someone has put some effort on ArchBSD. Amazing, boots in second, 4 processes :) | 08:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: http://pastebin.com/sVFkBCXS <- all "filenames" of Categories we need | 08:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry I didn't bother to sed out the redundancy and cruft | 08:32 |
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| Skry | merlin1991: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49989728/maemo_wiki_pages.txt <- combined, in case you still need one | 08:43 |
| Skry | almost forgot | 08:44 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: have you installed the bme replacement yet? | 11:38 |
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| Cor-Ai | WielkiTost: dude! | 12:08 |
| WielkiTost | oops, sorry | 12:08 |
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| amospalla | do you know if the instructions on installing cssu-thumb apply to a cssu-stable n900?, or only to plain without any cssu n900 ? | 12:17 |
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| invariant | How does the proximity sensor actually work? I can only get it to activate with a success rate of about 40% or so. | 12:20 |
| invariant | I have noticed that some newer Nokia phones can hang up on the caller by putting the phone down. Can the n900 also do that? | 12:21 |
| kerio | amospalla: they should apply nicely | 12:22 |
| kerio | amospalla: actually, even easier | 12:22 |
| kerio | amospalla: do you trust me? | 12:22 |
| kerio | disable the cssu stable repo, enable the cssu testing and cssu thumb repos, update from HAM | 12:22 |
| kerio | amospalla: actually | 12:25 |
| kerio | disable or delete the cssu stable repo, then follow the cssu-thumb instructions | 12:25 |
| jon_y | nothing like accidentally ending a call when you put down the phone to tend to something :) | 12:29 |
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| amospalla | kerio: thanks, let's see if it does not explode | 12:34 |
| kerio | it's fairly important to use the .install file because the repos are enabled by community-ssu-enabler only if they're a perfect match | 12:35 |
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| amospalla | application manager is so slow... :/ | 12:38 |
| kerio | if you have KP already you can use apt-get | 12:39 |
| kerio | but it's not sanctioned or supported | 12:39 |
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| amospalla | yes, better the official route | 12:39 |
| amospalla | still waiting for catalogs to appear on application manager, how can that be so slow... | 12:40 |
| kerio | nah, it's just that i know enough about the system to figure out if everything is going as it's supposed to :) | 12:40 |
| kerio | and i can recover, most importantly | 12:41 |
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| amospalla | installing right now :D | 12:45 |
| amospalla | system idle, application manager responds interactivity, I can open menu, without waiting, I guess I must relaunch it | 12:49 |
| amospalla | iftop shows nothing downloading from anywhere | 12:50 |
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| amospalla | ok, now | 12:53 |
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| amospalla | Im afraid :| | 13:15 |
| kerio | what? | 13:16 |
| rZr | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Discussion/showthread.php?238318-Harmattan-dev-down&p=906282# | 13:16 |
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| amospalla | these upgrades scaries me a lot | 13:17 |
| amospalla | my beloved n900 :'( | 13:18 |
| kerio | haven't we been through this yesterday? | 13:18 |
| kerio | backups | 13:19 |
| amospalla | oh god, its rebooting!! | 13:19 |
| amospalla | panic | 13:19 |
| amospalla | yes, we reveiwed them :D | 13:20 |
| amospalla | yeah, worked :D thanks | 13:21 |
| freemangordon | amospalla: what is that scary thing you're installing on your device? | 13:21 |
| amospalla | guess it ;D | 13:23 |
| amospalla | cssu-thumb | 13:23 |
| kerio | freemangordon: we've got another victim! | 13:23 |
| kerio | user! | 13:23 |
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| freemangordon | lol | 13:23 |
| kerio | ohai Pali | 13:24 |
| kerio | i installed the new versions this morning | 13:24 |
| kerio | (and i also removed the dpkg diversion i had on hald-addon-bme... whooops) | 13:24 |
| Pali | hi | 13:24 |
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| kerio | Pali: i'll report if anything bad happens | 13:26 |
| kerio | actually, let me start syslog | 13:26 |
| Pali | ok | 13:26 |
| SpeedEvil | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vix6TMnj9vY&feature=youtube_gdata_player it'll never catch on. (1973 tomorrows world on the mobile) | 13:30 |
| kerio | that's a really interesting bit of history | 13:35 |
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| kerio | in the oneNAND, is there a difference between an erased page and an all-bits-1 page? | 13:39 |
| SpeedEvil | they are the same thing | 13:43 |
| SpeedEvil | as I understand it. | 13:43 |
| SpeedEvil | an all bits 1 page has been erased, and then no bits written | 13:43 |
| freemangordon | Pali: ping | 13:43 |
| Pali | freemangordon, pong | 13:43 |
| freemangordon | Pali: can you verify for me: | 13:44 |
| SpeedEvil | actually, on reflection, I don't know if this is true for the ecc bits | 13:44 |
| freemangordon | setup an alarm, power-off the device, wait for alarm to play | 13:44 |
| freemangordon | press snooze | 13:44 |
| SpeedEvil | it wakes | 13:44 |
| SpeedEvil | oh | 13:44 |
| SpeedEvil | dunno what happens in that event | 13:44 |
| freemangordon | it the sound still play after snooze is pressed? | 13:44 |
| freemangordon | s/it/is/ | 13:44 |
| infobot | freemangordon meant: is the sound still play after snooze is pressed? | 13:44 |
| freemangordon | Pali: scratch that, I found the bug | 13:45 |
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| freemangordon | ok, alarm UI should be fully functional, hopefully without bugs. Ready for testing | 13:53 |
| freemangordon | any volunteer? | 13:53 |
| freemangordon | kerio: ^^^ | 13:53 |
| freemangordon | :P | 13:53 |
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| Pali | DocScrutinizer05, we need to backup also: http://repository.maemo.org/stable/ | 13:56 |
| Pali | wget with recursively should work | 13:57 |
| freemangordon | Pali: do we have closed stuff mirrored? | 13:57 |
| Pali | http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/ | 13:58 |
| Pali | and also on merlin server | 13:58 |
| freemangordon | http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/repository.maemo.org/dists/fremantle/4bc37c7c77ebe90177c050b805a8dc79/nokia-binaries/binary-armel/ | 13:59 |
| freemangordon | empty | 13:59 |
| freemangordon | http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/repository.maemo.org/dists/fremantle/sdk/non-free/binary-i386/ | 14:00 |
| freemangordon | same | 14:00 |
| freemangordon | Pali: scratch that | 14:01 |
| freemangordon | the stuff is in /pool | 14:01 |
| freemangordon | great | 14:01 |
| Pali | mirror is not my | 14:01 |
| freemangordon | ok, ok | 14:01 |
| freemangordon | looks fine | 14:01 |
| Pali | also need to backup madde: http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/MADDE.php | 14:02 |
| Pali | it contains qemu image of n900 | 14:02 |
| Pali | usefull for testing something in virtuak | 14:02 |
| Pali | *virtual | 14:02 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 14:02 |
| freemangordon | firmware is mirrored I hope | 14:03 |
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| Pali | and what about backup of garage projects? | 14:09 |
| Pali | more are in git which can be easy by script | 14:10 |
| Pali | and some are in svn, so git svn clone can be used | 14:10 |
| freemangordon | Pali: it will be great to clone garage, there are piles of useful stuff there | 14:11 |
| RzR | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/MeeGo | 14:11 |
| freemangordon | unfortunately I am not skilled enough to do that :( | 14:11 |
| Pali | git repo are here: http://vcs.maemo.org/git/ | 14:12 |
| freemangordon | btw maybe we should ask board/council, there could be some background job going on in that regard | 14:12 |
| M4rtinK | IMO, better safe than sorry :) | 14:13 |
| freemangordon | Pali: damn, KP is on garage :D:D:D | 14:13 |
| Pali | yes :-) | 14:13 |
| Pali | but I have local git clone of cource | 14:13 |
| Pali | this is usefull http://vcs.maemo.org/git/?a=project_index :-) | 14:14 |
| freemangordon | M4rtinK: sure, but it makes no sense to do the same job twice | 14:14 |
| Pali | each garage git repo has url: https://vcs.maemo.org/git/<project> | 14:14 |
| Pali | and all projects in text file is on http://vcs.maemo.org/git/?a=project_index | 14:15 |
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| RzR | then we can synch ourselves on that previous wiki page | 14:16 |
| RzR | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/MeeGo | 14:16 |
| RzR | and let me suggest to create single archive files to be updated until Doom day | 14:17 |
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| Pali | RzR, I can create easy shell script for git garage backup | 14:18 |
| Pali | $ wget http://vcs.maemo.org/git/?a=project_index -O project_index && for p in `cat project_index`; do GIT_SSL_NO_VERIFY=1 git clone https://vcs.maemo.org/git/$p; done | 14:18 |
| Pali | this should work ^^^ | 14:18 |
| RzR | then tell about it | 14:19 |
| freemangordon | Pali: do you have enough free space? | 14:19 |
| RzR | somewhere | 14:19 |
| RzR | ie : https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/MeeGo | 14:19 |
| Pali | I cannot find EDIT button on that wiki | 14:19 |
| RzR | we can move repo to gitorious ? | 14:19 |
| RzR | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/index.php?title=MeeGo&action=edit | 14:19 |
| Pali | RzR, maunal work | 14:19 |
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| M4rtinK | freemangordon: of course, I also hope most of this gets properly resolved by Council/Board, but there is still the possibility of some clueless rm-happy Nokia admin somewhere | 14:20 |
| Pali | RzR, You do not have permission to edit this page | 14:20 |
| RzR | i have | 14:20 |
| Pali | sorry I cannot do that | 14:20 |
| M4rtinK | so it could be too late for some resources when it is officially resolved | 14:20 |
| RzR | https://gitorious.org/+harmattan | 14:20 |
| RzR | could this a place for backups? | 14:21 |
| RzR | let me create +maemo team | 14:21 |
| Pali | RzR, but you need to do that for every git repo | 14:21 |
| Pali | above script download all git repo by one single script line | 14:21 |
| RzR | well this can be scripted or crowsoruces | 14:21 |
| Pali | ok | 14:21 |
| Pali | RzR, maybe create garage maemo team | 14:22 |
| Pali | but what to do with svn repos on garage? | 14:22 |
| freemangordon | Pali: svn2git? merlin1991 has some knowledge afaik | 14:23 |
| Pali | git svn clone svn://repo | 14:23 |
| Pali | is working | 14:24 |
| Pali | but there is no easy way yo extract all svn repos from garage | 14:24 |
| freemangordon | there is no list? | 14:25 |
| RzR | ok | 14:25 |
| RzR | we can relocate there https://gitorious.org/+maemo | 14:25 |
| RzR | let me add you | 14:25 |
| freemangordon | RzR: yeah, add a couple of admins there | 14:26 |
| RzR | tell me yours ids | 14:26 |
| Pali | this is better for git cloning: git clone ssh://drop.maemo.org/git/$p | 14:26 |
| Pali | https is very slow on garage | 14:26 |
| jon_y | clone --mirror? | 14:27 |
| Pali | jon_y, git clone will clone full git repo | 14:27 |
| freemangordon | RzR: https://gitorious.org/~freemangordon | 14:27 |
| jon_y | well, you seem to want to mirror it, I thought it might be a good idea | 14:27 |
| RzR | https://gitorious.org/+maemo/memberships | 14:28 |
| Pali | RzR: https://gitorious.org/~pali | 14:28 |
| RzR | the council will hates us | 14:28 |
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| freemangordon | why? | 14:28 |
| RzR | we bypassed them | 14:28 |
| Pali | RzR, it is possible to create git repo in that team from shell? | 14:29 |
| RzR | Pali, i guess yes , donno how | 14:29 |
| RzR | but this can be scripted | 14:29 |
| Pali | RzR, ok how to create new repo (on web) for that team? | 14:30 |
| Pali | I did not see any create button | 14:30 |
| RzR | we need to create a maemo project under +maemo team | 14:32 |
| RzR | https://gitorious.org/projects/new | 14:32 |
| Pali | better garage-maemo | 14:32 |
| freemangordon | Pali: you should create new project from your home page | 14:33 |
| freemangordon | aiui | 14:33 |
| Pali | ok | 14:33 |
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| Pali | is garage-maemo ok? | 14:34 |
| freemangordon | maemo-garage? | 14:34 |
| RzR | https://gitorious.org/maemo | 14:34 |
| RzR | let me contact him ? | 14:34 |
| Pali | maemo-garage should be ok | 14:34 |
| freemangordon | yeah, sounds better | 14:35 |
| RzR | ok then i let you doing this | 14:35 |
| freemangordon | :D | 14:35 |
| RzR | just sent | 14:36 |
| RzR | hi | 14:36 |
| RzR | can you join #maemo | 14:36 |
| RzR | and add +maemo team to this project | 14:36 |
| RzR | we plan to relocate garage | 14:36 |
| RzR | see | 14:36 |
| Pali | https://gitorious.org/maemo-garage | 14:36 |
| RzR | https://gitorious.org/+maemo | 14:36 |
| RzR | Survival backup place … may be temporary , until a “post #feb11” community is setup … hold on before comiting there . | 14:36 |
| RzR | Related: | 14:36 |
| RzR | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/MeeGo | 14:36 |
| RzR | https://gitorious.org/+harmattan | 14:36 |
| RzR | ok | 14:36 |
| RzR | fine | 14:36 |
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| Pali | RzR, can you rename +maemo to +maemo-garage? | 14:37 |
| freemangordon | Pali: why? | 14:37 |
| freemangordon | leave it that way | 14:37 |
| Pali | ok | 14:37 |
| RzR | we may manage more repo in the future | 14:40 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 14:40 |
| RzR | Pali, have u set license : multiples? | 14:40 |
| Pali | yes, I do not know all garage licences | 14:41 |
| RzR | ues | 14:41 |
| RzR | ok | 14:41 |
| RzR | i checked fine | 14:41 |
| RzR | we're efficient | 14:41 |
| freemangordon | is it possible to clone directly to gitorious? | 14:41 |
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| freemangordon | without making a local repo | 14:41 |
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| freemangordon | hmm, who is garage admin? some nokian? | 14:42 |
| kerio | :s | 14:45 |
| RzR | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87815 | 14:49 |
| RzR | freemangordon, i where u have to script http requests | 14:49 |
| Pali | freemangordon, no | 14:49 |
| Pali | gitorious does not support importing | 14:49 |
| freemangordon | :S | 14:50 |
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| M4rtinK | RzR: if there was Fremantle target on COBS, we could do rzr:fremantle & import the Fremantle packages there :) | 14:53 |
| freemangordon | is COBS project still alive? | 14:53 |
| RzR | M4rtinK, yes | 14:54 |
| RzR | is thought about | 14:54 |
| M4rtinK | the MeeGo COBS | 14:54 |
| RzR | I already set up home:rzr:maemo | 14:54 |
| M4rtinK | the Fremantle COBS is not running at the moment IMHO | 14:54 |
| RzR | but there is not builders yes | 14:54 |
| RzR | but trying to build it on harmattan worth a try | 14:54 |
| M4rtinK | it got stalled by the need for overall migration IIRC | 14:55 |
| M4rtinK | yeah | 14:55 |
| RzR | that was on my plan , I'll do that once I backup that mirror | 14:55 |
| M4rtinK | it even mostly works :) | 14:55 |
| M4rtinK | gtk, etc. | 14:55 |
| RzR | then will upload the #Floss dsc to cobs | 14:55 |
| RzR | M4rtinK, we miss hildon today | 14:55 |
| M4rtinK | RzR: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=Fremantle - doesn't seem to be operational though | 14:57 |
| RzR | M4rtinK, one problem at the time ok ? | 14:58 |
| M4rtinK | perhaps using a soft-float Harmattan target might do it ? | 14:58 |
| M4rtinK | ok :) | 14:58 |
| RzR | Pali, so creating each project should be doable using wget | 14:58 |
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| Pali | https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/gitorious/rbRBxq16fDE | 14:59 |
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| Pali | ^^^ this not working | 14:59 |
| Pali | RzR, do you have wget script? | 14:59 |
| RzR | whatabout github or launchpad ? | 14:59 |
| RzR | i used one someday | 14:59 |
| Pali | launchpad is good, it support repository importing | 14:59 |
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| Pali | but launchpad has only bzr | 14:59 |
| Pali | no git | 14:59 |
| Pali | (but can import git repo into bzr) | 14:59 |
| RzR | git please | 15:00 |
| RzR | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8599760/variables-in-wget-post-data | 15:01 |
| kerio | freemangordon: i activated an alarm, it correctly alarmed me | 15:01 |
| kerio | what am i supposed to test? | 15:01 |
| freemangordon | kerio: everything ;) | 15:01 |
| kerio | ah, maybe i should've rebooted though | 15:02 |
| freemangordon | kerio: sure | 15:02 |
| freemangordon | calendar, act_dead mode, snooze, ... | 15:02 |
| freemangordon | what else? | 15:02 |
| freemangordon | third-party apps | 15:02 |
| RzR | do you mirror it before uploading | 15:02 |
| kerio | but that seems like work | 15:02 |
| RzR | or plan to do one after one ? | 15:02 |
| RzR | Pali, ? | 15:03 |
| kerio | :c | 15:03 |
| Pali | RzR, first I need script which can create repo on gitorious | 15:03 |
| Pali | then I decide what to do | 15:03 |
| kerio | Pali: srsly, your applet slows down mah boot | 15:04 |
| kerio | >:c | 15:04 |
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| RzR | having a local copy would be higher priority | 15:04 |
| freemangordon | Pali: https://gitorious.org/gitorious-cli | 15:05 |
| freemangordon | that might to the job dor direct miroring | 15:05 |
| freemangordon | *for | 15:05 |
| freemangordon | Ruby?!? | 15:06 |
| kerio | freemangordon: hm, "snooze" correctly added 5 minutes instead of 10 | 15:06 |
| kerio | neat | 15:06 |
| freemangordon | what? | 15:06 |
| freemangordon | why 10? | 15:06 |
| kerio | the default is 10 iirc | 15:06 |
| kerio | worldclock has a way to set it | 15:07 |
| kerio | the new and improved worldclock, i mean | 15:07 |
| freemangordon | did you change it to 5? | 15:07 |
| kerio | yep | 15:07 |
| freemangordon | ok | 15:07 |
| freemangordon | kerio: do you have gdb installed? | 15:07 |
| kerio | freemangordon: i don't think so | 15:08 |
| kerio | why? | 15:08 |
| freemangordon | well, in case it crashes it will be usefull to have gdb attached | 15:08 |
| freemangordon | nevermind | 15:08 |
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| kerio | freemangordon: calendar fails when i try to add an alarm to an event :( | 15:12 |
| freemangordon | unrelated | 15:13 |
| freemangordon | calendar db corrupted? | 15:13 |
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| freemangordon | kerio: no problems here | 15:13 |
| freemangordon | btw what "fails" mean | 15:13 |
| freemangordon | ? | 15:13 |
| kerio | the "internal error" banner | 15:14 |
| freemangordon | baad | 15:14 |
| freemangordon | install gdb :D | 15:14 |
| kerio | hm, maybe the "local" calendar is the problem | 15:15 |
| kerio | yep, successfully notified | 15:15 |
| freemangordon | does snooze/stop/view work as expected? | 15:15 |
| kerio | yeah, it's the "local" calendar that's the problem | 15:15 |
| kerio | freemangordon: i tried view, it worked | 15:15 |
| kerio | where are the calendars stored? | 15:16 |
| freemangordon | but why is your calendar Db corrupted? | 15:16 |
| freemangordon | NFC | 15:16 |
| freemangordon | ~/.calendar? | 15:16 |
| kerio | oh, maybe because i was adding it to an invisible calendar | 15:16 |
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| freemangordon | kerio: makes no sense | 15:19 |
| kerio | calendaring works | 15:20 |
| kerio | even in portrait | 15:20 |
| kerio | gj :D | 15:20 |
| kerio | i *really* don't want to test alarms in act_dead mode :( | 15:20 |
| freemangordon | kerio: why? | 15:20 |
| kerio | because it's boring as hell | 15:20 |
| freemangordon | kerio: force rotation enabled? | 15:20 |
| kerio | you do it | 15:21 |
| kerio | freemangordon: no | 15:21 |
| freemangordon | I did it | 15:21 |
| kerio | neat, so i don't have to | 15:21 |
| kerio | freemangordon: i mean the popup | 15:21 |
| freemangordon | kerio: forced rotation is disabled and alarms rotate? | 15:21 |
| kerio | yep | 15:21 |
| kerio | it was on the home screen though | 15:21 |
| freemangordon | hmm, why is that? | 15:21 |
| kerio | that's weird | 15:21 |
| kerio | the internet connection dialog also rotates there | 15:21 |
| freemangordon | well, stock behave in the same way | 15:21 |
| kerio | and nowhere else | 15:22 |
| freemangordon | aah, some hildon-desktop idiocy | 15:22 |
| Pali | freemangordon, RzR: this script working: http://pyhacker.com/archive2012/gitoriouspy-command-line-interface-gitorious/ | 15:29 |
| freemangordon | Pali: good | 15:30 |
| freemangordon | now somwone should script it to do an online mirror of garage and we're ready | 15:31 |
| freemangordon | not me, windoze here :( | 15:31 |
| kerio | freemangordon: hold on, why do we need a new alarm ui? | 15:32 |
| freemangordon | kerio: because stock is buggy as hell | 15:32 |
| kerio | it always woke me up | 15:32 |
| kerio | idk | 15:32 |
| freemangordon | it cannot handle multiple alarms, it leaks memory, etc | 15:33 |
| freemangordon | kerio: setup 3 alarms with 1 minute interval | 15:33 |
| kerio | no u | 15:33 |
| freemangordon | (using stock) | 15:33 |
| Pali | freemangordon, going to do it | 15:33 |
| freemangordon | Pali: great | 15:33 |
| freemangordon | kerio: and tell me how many of them ring. leave them to auto-snooze. after 5 minutes tell me how may of them ring. | 15:34 |
| freemangordon | *many | 15:34 |
| kerio | but... | 15:34 |
| kerio | i only have to wake up once per day! | 15:35 |
| freemangordon | so? | 15:35 |
| kerio | clearly everyone else also only has the same need | 15:35 |
| freemangordon | kerio: what if one alarm is not enough to waky you up? | 15:36 |
| freemangordon | *wake | 15:36 |
| kerio | i usually stand up, grab the phone, shut down the alarm, go back to bed and start browsing reddit :3 | 15:36 |
| freemangordon | lucky you | 15:36 |
| jon_y | clearly it should be extensible, up to __UINTMAX_MAX__ | 15:36 |
| freemangordon | not to say that you can snooze only 3 times | 15:37 |
| freemangordon | alarm sound is limited to 1 minute | 15:37 |
| jon_y | __UINTMAX_MAX__ alarms ought to be enough for everybody | 15:37 |
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| freemangordon | etc.. | 15:37 |
| teotwaki | Well, everything is mirrored | 15:37 |
| teotwaki | (except for harmattan-dev) | 15:37 |
| freemangordon | teotwaki: garage? | 15:38 |
| teotwaki | no, all the repos | 15:38 |
| freemangordon | aah, ok | 15:38 |
| teotwaki | http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it | 15:38 |
| freemangordon | yeah, saw that, thanks a lot | 15:38 |
| freemangordon | kerio: also read from http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1291382&postcount=1110 till the end of the thread | 15:39 |
| freemangordon | s/till/to/ | 15:40 |
| infobot | freemangordon meant: kerio: also read from http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1291382&postcount=1110 to the end of the thread | 15:40 |
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| teotwaki | Pali: what's with rmo/stable? | 15:43 |
| Pali | teotwaki, rmo? | 15:44 |
| teotwaki | Pali: do you have a deb/deb-src line I can add to my sources.list for backup? | 15:44 |
| teotwaki | repository.maemo.org/stable | 15:44 |
| Pali | repository.maemo.org/stable is not apt repo | 15:44 |
| teotwaki | well | 15:46 |
| teotwaki | if you have a wget script I can use | 15:46 |
| teotwaki | I'll be happy to add it to maemo-archive | 15:46 |
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| RzR | teotwaki, hi | 15:50 |
| RzR | teotwaki, someone said to have backuped h-d | 15:50 |
| teotwaki | did they make it available online? | 15:50 |
| teotwaki | RzR: downloading ;) | 15:51 |
| teotwaki | well, I see you're downloading from wedrop.it | 15:51 |
| Pali | RzR, backup started | 15:52 |
| Pali | it it slow because creating repository on gitorious is slow | 15:53 |
| teotwaki | gitorious? | 15:53 |
| Pali | yes | 15:53 |
| teotwaki | how so? | 15:53 |
| RzR | greate | 15:54 |
| RzR | https://gitorious.org/maemo-garage | 15:54 |
| Pali | request for create new repo on gitorious takes 20s (without pushing) | 15:54 |
| teotwaki | did you guys talk with the gitorious devs? | 15:54 |
| teotwaki | They can run the creation in command line | 15:54 |
| Pali | I'm doing it in parralel | 15:55 |
| teotwaki | using the gitorious-admin console | 15:55 |
| teotwaki | (I run a gitorious instance at work) | 15:55 |
| Pali | when I created script for creating repos I started it | 15:55 |
| freemangordon | teotwaki: Pali found some script doing the same | 15:55 |
| teotwaki | also, if you use too much space, they can kill you off without warning | 15:55 |
| Pali | when I started creating script for garage pull & gitorious push | 15:55 |
| Pali | and now I started that clone script | 15:56 |
| teotwaki | cool | 15:56 |
| Pali | RzR, next I need list of all svn repositories from garage | 15:56 |
| teotwaki | RzR: do you know if the h-d clone is available online? | 15:56 |
| Pali | any idea | 15:56 |
| Pali | can somebody look how to get all projects from garage? | 15:56 |
| RzR | teotwaki, i dont think so | 15:56 |
| RzR | but it has been said it is backuped | 15:56 |
| freemangordon | Pali: you mean svn? | 15:56 |
| RzR | check threads in tmo | 15:57 |
| Pali | svn or all | 15:57 |
| RzR | Pali, do git-svn them on the same place ? | 15:57 |
| Pali | I have list of git, so I can filter that from all :-) | 15:57 |
| RzR | will you | 15:57 |
| Pali | RzR yes I want to all git svn clone | 15:57 |
| Pali | but problem is that I do not have list of all svn projects | 15:57 |
| RzR | Pali, we'll have to crawl all the garage website ? | 15:58 |
| freemangordon | Pali: do you have error reporting if something fails? | 15:58 |
| Pali | each project which has SCM support has URL: https://garage.maemo.org/scm/?group_id=1528 | 15:58 |
| Pali | with ID | 15:59 |
| Pali | that is for kernel-power | 15:59 |
| Pali | freemangordon, I see that from console | 15:59 |
| Pali | now only aptitude failed | 15:59 |
| Pali | git clone aptitude from garage failed | 15:59 |
| freemangordon | why? | 15:59 |
| freemangordon | empty project? | 16:00 |
| freemangordon | hmm, not empty | 16:00 |
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| freemangordon | no master branch | 16:00 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: something is not ok | 16:04 |
| freemangordon | it seems you mirror only master branches | 16:04 |
| jon_y | use --mirror to grab everything | 16:05 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: ^^^ | 16:05 |
| Pali | git clone --mirror? | 16:05 |
| jon_y | yes | 16:05 |
| jon_y | it is a bare repo, it gets everything | 16:06 |
| jon_y | also, it doesn't append origin | 16:06 |
| jon_y | *prepend | 16:06 |
| freemangordon | WTF is canola? | 16:06 |
| SpeedEvil | Canadian rape | 16:07 |
| jon_y | any relations to Canadian cross compilers? | 16:08 |
| RzR | I am not spreading a emergency plan, but as some pple are considering this is time to do some stuff , and there is no way or reason to stop them, there should be some central point for coordination ... that's why I though if no one do that, then the servers will be killed for preservation efforts ... so let's act responsibly and dont act too fast , but wait things to be done if nothing is planned... | 16:08 |
| RzR | dotn wait things to be done ... | 16:08 |
| teotwaki | freemangordon: canola was a media player | 16:11 |
| teotwaki | freemangordon: a very nice one at that | 16:12 |
| freemangordon | aah, yes, I remember now, there were threads on TMO | 16:12 |
| freemangordon | wasn't it closed source? | 16:12 |
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| Pali | freemangordon, it should be ok now | 16:13 |
| teotwaki | I think v1 wasn't and v2 was, or vice versa | 16:13 |
| Pali | aptitude was pushed | 16:13 |
| Sysaxed | how does integrated media player work so that it's not interrupted with power key? :O | 16:13 |
| freemangordon | Pali: yeah, much better now :D | 16:14 |
| freemangordon | Sysaxed: policy | 16:14 |
| Sysaxed | freemangordon, and what's behind this magic word? | 16:15 |
| freemangordon | Pali: what was that prolog stuff you were playing with? | 16:15 |
| Pali | libplayback library | 16:16 |
| freemangordon | Sysaxed: ^^^ | 16:16 |
| Pali | (closed and without documentation) | 16:16 |
| freemangordon | afaik that one | 16:16 |
| Pali | there are only header files | 16:17 |
| Sysaxed | should I say "fuck" now? XD | 16:17 |
| freemangordon | Sysaxed: and there are some config files in /etc | 16:17 |
| jon_y | I see that all the time in Windows | 16:17 |
| teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: you're now called "Sebastian Lauwers, aka CrashandDie aka teotwaki" | 16:17 |
| jon_y | libs with only headers | 16:17 |
| freemangordon | text ones, don;t remember the name/location | 16:17 |
| Sysaxed | jon_y, I haven't seen window for 4 years now... | 16:17 |
| freemangordon | but it should not be hard to find the | 16:17 |
| teotwaki | anyway | 16:17 |
| Sysaxed | windows* | 16:17 |
| teotwaki | I'm off | 16:17 |
| freemangordon | grep for mediaplayer | 16:17 |
| teotwaki | have fun guys | 16:17 |
| freemangordon | bb | 16:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: I already corrected that | 16:18 |
| jon_y | also, COM headers with no corresponding lib | 16:18 |
| freemangordon | jon_y: actually you don;t need anything to use COM | 16:18 |
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| freemangordon | besides .dll | 16:19 |
| jon_y | yeah, I write JNI at work :( | 16:19 |
| jon_y | and some COM | 16:19 |
| Sysaxed | is there any way to run command as user from root? | 16:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I wish everybody would chill down a bit, and RzR wouldn't start so many parallel threads | 16:19 |
| Sysaxed | sudo user 'command' tells me that user is not in the sudoers file | 16:19 |
| RzR | DocScrutinizer05, there are only 2 | 16:20 |
| RzR | one for the wiki | 16:20 |
| RzR | the other is general | 16:20 |
| freemangordon | jon_y: but COM is deprecated AFAIk. (of course M$ has a newer and shiner things to show) | 16:20 |
| RzR | but i can understand | 16:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it feels like shepherding 5 flocks on 5 grounds | 16:20 |
| jon_y | code gotta work for GCC, so no winRT for the next 5 years | 16:20 |
| jon_y | well, my personal preference anyway | 16:21 |
| jon_y | until the boss starts shoving :) | 16:21 |
| RzR | DocScrutinizer05, do u have a backup of harmattanDev ? | 16:21 |
| jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: garage going down? | 16:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | RzR: anyway (if you missed action in this very channel of yesterday) we got a backup of what's backup'able basically, hosted by honorable community members | 16:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | RzR: so maybe you could help chill down the panic a bit | 16:22 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: hmm, what panic? | 16:23 |
| RzR | DocScrutinizer05, tell me what i should add to : | 16:23 |
| RzR | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87815 | 16:23 |
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| RzR | DocScrutinizer05, yes i know but teotwaki proposed to mirror it | 16:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki *did* mirror it | 16:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | past tense | 16:24 |
| Pali | RzR, can you look at garage how to get all svn projects? | 16:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | done | 16:24 |
| RzR | no he didnt | 16:24 |
| RzR | he backuped maemo5- | 16:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bs | 16:25 |
| Sysaxed | and again, how can I run a command as user if I'm root? | 16:25 |
| RzR | Pali, not today , it's time to do stuff one after | 16:25 |
| Pali | freemangordon, easyphoto from garage failed | 16:25 |
| Pali | RzR, ok | 16:25 |
| RzR | we fired the backup process that's cool , but no need to do it all the same day | 16:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | RzR: please look at yesterday's chanlogs, and at the URL I (and he) posted | 16:26 |
| RzR | many pple will have idea of what to do | 16:26 |
| RzR | http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it.nyud.net ? | 16:26 |
| Pali | also canola-book | 16:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | RzR: we're facing a DoS on maemo servers, due to panicking backupers | 16:26 |
| freemangordon | RzR: of course, but lets do whatever can be done while we're at it | 16:26 |
| RzR | DocScrutinizer05, really ? | 16:27 |
| freemangordon | Pali: are you doing pull in parallel? | 16:27 |
| RzR | let me inform pple to stop doint that | 16:27 |
| Pali | no | 16:27 |
| freemangordon | ok | 16:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | RzR: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1292999#post1292999 | 16:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1293000&postcount=11 | 16:28 |
| RzR | http://identi.ca/notice/97830952 | 16:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | what's that ^^^ | 16:31 |
| freemangordon | Pali: just write failed ones somewhere, if there are about 5-10 projects, wi'll mirror them by hand | 16:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (just in case you dunno: nobody is supposed to click unknown URL in IRC just to find out what they are) | 16:32 |
| freemangordon | *we | 16:32 |
| RzR | DocScrutinizer05, well if you want to add info please do it on mer wiki ? | 16:32 |
| RzR | i will paste this info then | 16:33 |
| RzR | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/MeeGo | 16:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | how's any of my info related to mer? | 16:33 |
| Pali | freemangordon: ssh://drop.maemo.org/git/easyphoto | 16:33 |
| RzR | mer host is future proof . no idea of mamo one | 16:34 |
| freemangordon | Pali: ? | 16:34 |
| Pali | freemangordon: ssh://drop.maemo.org/git/canola-book | 16:34 |
| Pali | that two failed | 16:34 |
| RzR | Pali, lets list this somewhere | 16:34 |
| freemangordon | only those? | 16:34 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 16:34 |
| Pali | yet only two | 16:34 |
| freemangordon | RzR: though if only 2 noo need to list them | 16:35 |
| freemangordon | *no | 16:35 |
| RzR | let me do that now :) | 16:35 |
| freemangordon | Pali: what's the error? | 16:35 |
| Pali | error: Could not read aeee625317413eb64fd67cc644aba74b4064de60 | 16:35 |
| Pali | and | 16:35 |
| Pali | error: Could not read 7f36eacbc0559cd4e8b836e2004f9a7ea2778aa8 | 16:35 |
| RzR | https://gitorious.org/maemo-garage#more | 16:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | RzR: please stop posting URL here, with no addressee and no comment what they are | 16:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (just in case you dunno: nobody is supposed to click unknown URL in IRC just to find out what they are) | 16:37 |
| freemangordon | RzR: :) | 16:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | RzR: you're a bit overreacting it seems to me | 16:38 |
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| RzR | DocScrutinizer05, probally | 16:38 |
| RzR | so i will stop for today | 16:38 |
| RzR | anyway "2 failures" is enough to react | 16:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we got no real serious issue yet (at least none we wold know it won't get fixed soonish, except apps4meego) and we more than adequately handled the problem, there are several mirrors of ALL available repos existing out there, plus at least one backup of the wiki | 16:39 |
| RzR | DocScrutinizer05, good , is it the same for meego wiki ? | 16:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no | 16:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | only wiki.maemo.org backed up | 16:40 |
| RzR | is it the only missing piece of the puzle | 16:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so concentrate on that please | 16:40 |
| RzR | DocScrutinizer05, in which form wiki.maemo.org is backuped ? | 16:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | XML | 16:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for now | 16:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | see chanlog, and my post with IRC quotes | 16:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | many thank Skry and merlin1991! | 16:42 |
| RzR | well then please let it know http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1292999#post1292999 | 16:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please reread your own threads | 16:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and I'm not going to click URL each time to open [current archive and future (17)] (and 18 and 19) window, or compare the URL char by char. Please refer to the threads like by title or whatever, in human readable parsable form | 16:45 |
| RzR | i updated it | 16:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (the benefits of running concurrent threads with pretty much same topic - you see?) | 16:46 |
| RzR | let's hope it is clear now | 16:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | err, seems it's not apps4meego that failed - teotwaki lists it as mirrored | 16:52 |
| RzR | freemangordon, i was thinking , maybe it would be safe to migrate svn projects on garage and then update gitorious mirror | 16:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please check the central repo mirror URL he posted. Keep in mind that sync may still run | 16:53 |
| vi__ | I have added an external antenna to my dd-wrt AP. | 16:53 |
| RzR | freemangordon, just a suggestion | 16:53 |
| vi__ | I cut the track, soldered on a stripped pigtail. | 16:53 |
| vi__ | It makes no difference whether the external aerial is attached or not. | 16:54 |
| freemangordon | RzR: but why, we only need a list of svn projects | 16:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | vi__: attaching an antenna usually involves SWR tuning, otherwise antenna performance is abyssmal | 16:55 |
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| RzR | freemangordon, because it will be easier to sync later | 16:57 |
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| freemangordon | but once we have the list, it will be the same | 16:57 |
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| RzR | maybe | 17:00 |
| RzR | well i think i need to breath fresh air now :) | 17:00 |
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| RzR | thx DocScrutinizer05 freemangordon Pali etc | 17:00 |
| RzR | ask me to update my posts if you think it will benefit the community | 17:01 |
| RzR | later | 17:01 |
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| Sysaxed | DocScrutinizer05, remember I was asking about the volume keys stuff? | 17:02 |
| Sysaxed | so, now it's ready... | 17:02 |
| Sysaxed | I've tried to make it simple.. but failed | 17:03 |
| Sysaxed | here it is anyway | 17:03 |
| Sysaxed | (I can't register on maemo talk for a month now, so can't make a nice post about it there) | 17:03 |
| Sysaxed | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71236259/smartKeys.py | 17:03 |
| Sysaxed | run this script as root. now if you press volume up and then volume down quickly (just slide your finger over the buttons) | 17:03 |
| Sysaxed | you'll lock/unlock the device without making it hang other apps like the powerkey does | 17:04 |
| Sysaxed | if you do it in another direction - it will change the song in the default media player | 17:04 |
| Sysaxed | feel free to customize it to your liking | 17:04 |
| Sysaxed | note that you must set DisableKPImmediately to 2 in /etc/mce/mce.ini to make volume keys work when the screen is locked | 17:05 |
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| Sysaxed | and yes, you can use actions like volume up+volume+down+volume up+volume down etc | 17:07 |
| Sysaxed | just note that it does change system volume, so you will probably want to use same amount of volume ups and volume downs for an action | 17:07 |
| Sysaxed | maybe I should make a config file... but having it as a single file is something I like very much | 17:08 |
| vi___ | Sysaxed: that is really cool. | 17:08 |
| vi___ | is there a tmo thread? | 17:09 |
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| Sysaxed | vi___, what is tmo? talk maemo? | 17:09 |
| Sysaxed | vi___, I can't register! Really! Maybe somebody could help me out? | 17:10 |
| Sysaxed | I've made my account on garage maemo but something went wrong I guess | 17:10 |
| Sysaxed | so I can login to garage but can't login in maemo.org | 17:10 |
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| Skry | DocScrutinizer05: yer welcome. did merlin1991 manage to get the wiki backed up? | 17:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | except those Categories: pages, we backed up everything, yes | 17:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: moinmoin, how's about finishing on that? | 17:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sysaxed: yep, I remember | 17:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sysaxed: your account on tmo is separate from garage, they're not linked | 17:17 |
| Sysaxed | DocScrutinizer05, awesome! But how can I register on tmo???? | 17:17 |
| Sysaxed | if it links me to the garage | 17:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sysaxed: you need to create an account *inside* tmo | 17:17 |
| Sysaxed | OH | 17:18 |
| Sysaxed | http://talk.maemo.org/register.php?do=register | 17:18 |
| Sysaxed | here it is | 17:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sysaxed: use firefox browser, set cookies to default policy, then click "create account" or whatever the name in tmo | 17:18 |
| Sysaxed | I was pressing BIG "Register" button instead | 17:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd appreciate you post above awesome stuff to tmo too | 17:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | and *attach thew script* as file please! no external links, they vanish | 17:19 |
| Sysaxed | DocScrutinizer05, sure, I simply didn't know how to register, haha | 17:19 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: to be fair dropbox is a lot less likely to disappear than... say, talk.maemo.org :D | 17:20 |
| Sysaxed | DocScrutinizer05, well, it's not-that-external-link | 17:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fair enough, still external links are an annoyance | 17:20 |
| Sysaxed | DocScrutinizer05, having 20 gb on dropbox and I'm not going to remove this file anyway | 17:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | links to *.maemo.org are ok, other stuff not so much | 17:21 |
| Sysaxed | Software/applications, right? | 17:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure | 17:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Sysaxed: you might face limitation on what your account may do, during first 5 or 7 days | 17:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: ^^^ could you help, just in case? | 17:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Sysaxed: e.g. you might not be allowed to attach files. include it as [code] then! | 17:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (hint: extended editor) | 17:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or was it 'advanced'? | 17:25 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: it's python, it doesn't handle whitespace changes too well | 17:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | in [code] ? | 17:26 |
| kerio | a lot of BB softwares handle that badly | 17:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | can't recall I'd seen tmo change whitespace in [code] mmm [/code] | 17:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | code tags are pretty much like <pre> | 17:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway in "advanced" you have "preview" as well, so you can tell if it survived | 17:28 |
| kerio | does it add line numbers? | 17:28 |
| kerio | usually copypasting that is awkward | 17:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | no | 17:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | it just creates annoying scrollbars here | 17:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | iirc | 17:31 |
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| Sysaxed | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71236259/2012-11-11-174230_594x468_scrot.png | 17:42 |
| Sysaxed | hahahahah | 17:42 |
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| Sysaxed | DocScrutinizer05, I can't attach a .py file and I can't use [code] tags because they screw everything | 17:48 |
| Sysaxed | DocScrutinizer05, what should I do then? | 17:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sysaxed: well, then include the link to dropbox for now, you can edit post later. | 17:50 |
| Sysaxed | ok | 17:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | omot the http:// since you might not be allowed to use links right now | 17:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | omit | 17:50 |
| Sysaxed | err | 17:51 |
| Sysaxed | posted | 17:51 |
| Sysaxed | didn't tell me anything about the http:// | 17:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, if they show up then fine | 17:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | URL? | 17:51 |
| Sysaxed | but said that it must be accepted by a mod | 17:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | see? | 17:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's what I meant | 17:52 |
| Sysaxed | errrr... | 17:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: PING ^^^^ | 17:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Sysaxed: tmo nick and thread title/URL please! | 17:52 |
| Sysaxed | Sysaxed is a nick | 17:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | otherwise chem|st can't find your post | 17:52 |
| Sysaxed | and... I can't remember the post title | 17:53 |
| Sysaxed | something about volume keys and shortcuts :D | 17:53 |
| Sysaxed | sysaxed* | 17:53 |
| Sysaxed | DocScrutinizer05, should the process of posting a useful script be that long and complicated?... | 17:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's usually not | 17:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's the process of activating an account that bugs yiu | 17:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you* | 17:57 |
| Sysaxed | :) | 17:59 |
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| Sysaxed | so that's all what I can do, right? | 18:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | except 'pestering' chem|st ;-) | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if he finds the time to drop by here, he'll solve the issue in no time, I guess | 18:05 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 moans about council infra and nothing moving regarding proper mail setup etc | 18:06 | |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so kinda similar situation to yours ;-) | 18:06 |
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| Pali | RzR, freemangordon: backup of garage git projects is complete | 18:10 |
| freemangordon | Pali: good | 18:11 |
| freemangordon | any more failed? | 18:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ??? | 18:12 |
| Pali | everything is ok | 18:13 |
| Pali | only empty repositories failed :-) | 18:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd prefer to see a coordinated backup happening, that's available under a limited small number of addresses | 18:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nothing wrong with everybody doing his private backup, but for community we need a centralized process | 18:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | board and council both are busy to coordinate stuff, please collaborate | 18:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (you all seem to show up in "to:" resp "CC." | 18:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ) | 18:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | while I'm happy with coordinating things via IRC (mail is kinda slow turnaround and not very effective for some tasks), it seems Ivgalvez decided to kick off stuff via council mail | 18:17 |
| rZr | DocScrutinizer05, wiki would be a better place for that isnt it ? | 18:19 |
| Pali | but wiki id going down too... | 18:19 |
| _rd | Hi, does anybody stream the current gps location from the n900 to a server (preferably I would like to do that to my own server) | 18:19 |
| _rd | ? | 18:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rZr: indeed | 18:20 |
| rZr | DocScrutinizer05, mer's one ? | 18:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and it's quite unfortunate when we try to coodinate infra fixes via infra to fix. That's the deadlock here | 18:20 |
| rZr | mer's wiki lives its own isnt it ? | 18:21 |
| rZr | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/MeeGo#MAEMO_Infrastructure_: | 18:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rZr: I've no special preferences here, but any wiki page to list/collect all resources needing backup, status and possibly URL of backups done, plus responsible executive of the backup, would be way better than either slow fuzzy mail or chaotic action on IRC | 18:22 |
| rZr | agrea | 18:23 |
| rZr | i started something on mer wiki | 18:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or you could edit your (MAIN!) tmo thread's first page, but that has the disadvantage that nobody can contribute directly | 18:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please close down the secondary thread | 18:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe rename original main thread to "backup of maemo resources - a community effort" or sth | 18:25 |
| Pali | but for that stupid mer wiki you need edit permission!!!! | 18:25 |
| rZr | i can do that | 18:25 |
| Pali | so I'm not able to edit it | 18:26 |
| Sysaxed | _rd, well, what is the question? | 18:26 |
| rZr | Pali, just create a mer account | 18:26 |
| Sysaxed | _rd, unlikely, but there were some apps for tracking your phone... | 18:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali's concerns seem reasonable | 18:26 |
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| Skry | how about dedicated irc channel for coordinating this stuff, set channel to +m and give +v to users doing the shit, others can follow and post kazillion threads with logs to anywhere they like? | 18:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: won't work | 18:29 |
| Skry | just an idea | 18:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: I'll not go into why it won't, now | 18:29 |
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| rZr | this channel is not overload yet | 18:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just that much: dedicated IRC channels are fine for long term projects with a low number of dedicated people | 18:30 |
| merlin1991 | hm wall of text, I'm not going to read it all, but regarding my highlights, DocScrutinizer05 yes I did finsih the wiki clone (just now) | 18:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and irc is kinda volatile | 18:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: cool stuff | 18:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: thanks a lot! | 18:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | rZr: for now I'd prefer you to clode down secondary thread, possibly rename primary thred to reflect the more general nature (as suggested above), then frequently read latest posts by other contributing community members and edit first post to reflect all the gathered info | 18:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | close* | 18:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: pingpingpongping | 18:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: request to merge threads! | 18:34 |
| rZr | DocScrutinizer05, i can do that but i prefer to keep it open untill an archive file of wiki to be released | 18:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rZr: wiki is just one resource | 18:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rZr: the idea is to have ONE thred dealing with, well... what I posted above - *all* resource backup tasks and issues going on | 18:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wiki is nothing special | 18:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so why a separate thread for it? | 18:36 |
| rZr | because it harder to grab | 18:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rZr: btw merlin1991 just confirmed we have an archive of wiki | 18:36 |
| Skry | I agree with Doc, having multiple threads for the same matter is nonsense and confusing. | 18:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, it's harder to find your way thru several concurrent basically overlapping threads | 18:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: indeed | 18:37 |
| rZr | merlin1991, can you release it ? at http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/maemo.merlin1991.at/ / | 18:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's already a PITA to coordinate all this on tmo at all | 18:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rZr: it will be available at maemo.merlin.at | 18:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | eventually wedrop.it will sync | 18:38 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: how do you know that? I might go rogue and keep it for myself ;) | 18:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | haha | 18:39 |
| merlin1991 | hm I need copyright text from the wiki | 18:39 |
| merlin1991 | can't put the stuff up there without the original copyright | 18:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmmfff | 18:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok | 18:39 |
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| merlin1991 | there has to be some page along the lines of "all submitted content falls under THIS license" | 18:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | look special-pages | 18:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | might have sth | 18:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or /main | 18:40 |
| merlin1991 | hah can't even log in on the wiki currently | 18:42 |
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| teotwaki | any news? | 18:42 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: it has a all content CC link on the bottom | 18:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep, now that you mention it, I recall seeing it | 18:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: well, panicking mode not really getting better | 18:44 |
| teotwaki | why? | 18:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: could you edit your post http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1293000&postcount=11 to more clearly state what exactly got mirrored - yes I know there are all the pathnames/URLs but it's not that obvious what's in and what's out | 18:46 |
| teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: I can dump all the directories, if you want :P | 18:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | nah, more like "this is a mirror containing all fremantle repos, the diablo, chinook, bla bla... It does *miss* the following resources we'd like to have as well but were not able to get: X, Y, ... And we omitted R (reason: bla), S (reason:blub), T (rationale), on purpose" | 18:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and maybe simply state what's the apt-mirror config file | 18:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | even pst that very file | 18:49 |
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| _rd | Sysaxed, there is azimuth, transfering the data over XMPP using the location extension XEP-0080. But I did not find a single PC client supporting that protocol flawless. | 18:51 |
| _rd | Otherwise that would be a very elegant solution, in particular with a XEP-0080 logger on the server side. | 18:52 |
| Sysaxed | _rd, just write a simple script that takes data from gps and takes it to the url you specify? | 18:52 |
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| rZr | <DocScrutinizer05> teotwaki: could you edit your post http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1293000&postcount=11 to more clearly state what exactly got mirrored - yes I know there are all the pathnames/URLs but it's not that obvious what's in and what's out | 18:54 |
| _rd | yap, do you have a starting point for the script ? ...or better the interface. Is there a dbus interface? | 18:54 |
| rZr | why not use wiki.merproject.org/wiki/MeeGo only ? | 18:54 |
| Sysaxed | _rd, http://maemo.org/packages/view/gps-data-logger/ | 18:54 |
| Sysaxed | _rd, this package should probably write data to a file | 18:54 |
| teotwaki | what the hell is nyud.net? | 18:55 |
| _rd | Sysaxed, thanks I take this as starting point. | 18:55 |
| rZr | teotwaki, i added it | 18:56 |
| rZr | this is a p2p cache | 18:56 |
| teotwaki | ? | 18:56 |
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| rZr | to not steal all your bandwidth | 18:56 |
| teotwaki | So, you add a cache, but not the main server? | 18:56 |
| Sysaxed2 | _rd, and you'd probably want to encrypt it some way in order to prevent others getting to the same url and spamming | 18:56 |
| teotwaki | rZr: I have unlimited bandwidth, don't worry. | 18:56 |
| rZr | unlimited does not exist in this world | 18:56 |
| teotwaki | rZr: one of my clients is the biggest backbone provider in Europe. | 18:57 |
| Sysaxed2 | _rd, dunno if previous message got to you, cause I was disconnected, but it's quite simply - take data from the file and send it to your server | 18:57 |
| Sysaxed2 | simple* | 18:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rZr: nobody has an account on wiki.merproject.org/wiki/MeeGo | 18:57 |
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| rZr | DocScrutinizer05, this is the time for | 18:58 |
| Sysaxed2 | chem|st, bzzz! bzzz! | 18:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | rZr: please don't complicate things | 18:59 |
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| rZr | DocScrutinizer05, well i let you manage then | 19:00 |
| rZr | i will be over busy this week then | 19:00 |
| Sysaxed2 | can anybody help me? CloudGPS says "gps has no fix". why? | 19:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | multiple threads, multiple locations: complicates coordination. adding caches: complicates stuff. Suggesting new stuff without checking back first: complicates getting stuff straight again | 19:00 |
| Sysaxed2 | and gives me a wrong location... well, a right one, but with 100 meters error | 19:00 |
| merlin1991 | rZr/DocScrutinizer05 http://maemo.merlin1991.at/wiki_2012_11_11.7z and http://maemo.merlin1991.at/wiki_with_history_2012_11_11.7z | 19:01 |
| rZr | great | 19:01 |
| rZr | teotwaki, ^ announce this to the wiki thread and i close it ? | 19:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rZr: you started those threads, I'm busy as well helping to manage the backfire | 19:02 |
| rZr | once mirrored | 19:02 |
| rZr | DocScrutinizer05, let me appology then , but at least we have something safer now | 19:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rZr: you should merge that wiki thread into the general resources thread, then close it anyway. No matter if merlin1991 publishes some URL or not | 19:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rZr: and why would teotwaki announce anything about that? | 19:04 |
| teotwaki | merlin1991: 90MB in all? | 19:04 |
| merlin1991 | yep | 19:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you should edit your #1 post http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1292955&postcount=1 to post it | 19:04 |
| teotwaki | 0f0177a6097bfed7fc20dc499a42386a wiki/wiki_2012_11_11.7z | 19:04 |
| teotwaki | 043bbd4f9b917add0c5d61e953ac8918 wiki/wiki_with_history_2012_11_11.7z | 19:04 |
| merlin1991 | ah yeah md5sums | 19:05 |
| merlin1991 | teotwaki: it compressed down to that from 1.5 gb :D | 19:05 |
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| merlin1991 | all hail verbose xml | 19:05 |
| teotwaki | merlin1991: how do I make it "accessible"? | 19:05 |
| rZr | hold on | 19:05 |
| rZr | bbl | 19:05 |
| Sysaxed2 | merlin1991, 7z magic : 3 | 19:05 |
| teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: what are your thoughts on the wiki stuff? Should I mirror it also? | 19:06 |
| merlin1991 | teotwaki: well it is an xml file + license + the image files in an archive, you'd need a running mediawiki where you import all the fun stuff | 19:07 |
| teotwaki | meh, not bothering with that | 19:07 |
| Pali | what about wiki in git? | 19:08 |
| teotwaki | merlin1991: can you run a cron job that creates those dumps on a weekly basis? | 19:08 |
| Pali | in future? | 19:08 |
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| teotwaki | Pali: try creating a 1.5GB repository on gitorious.org, and you'll be banned faster than you can say "available" | 19:09 |
| Pali | some wiki in git will be easy to backup :-) | 19:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rZr: please set up a table in http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1292955&postcount=1: | 19:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Resource(abstract) | resource-URL | status | backup-location(URL) | responsible member(IRC nick, tmo nick...) | 19:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | wiki.maemo.org | http:wiki.maemo.org | XML backup complete | http:maemo.merlin1991.at/wiki.... | (IRC) merlin1991 | 19:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: sure, mirror that as well | 19:10 |
| teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: done, http://maemo-archive.wedrop.it/wiki | 19:10 |
| merlin1991 | teotwaki: hm yeah | 19:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd prefer to keep everything in your location, as primary mirror (doesn't mean others have to go down) | 19:10 |
| merlin1991 | need to write a script then though | 19:10 |
| Skry | +1 for the cronjob | 19:11 |
| rZr | DocScrutinizer05, sorry i am busy , can you edit maemo wiki then , i'll update it | 19:11 |
| merlin1991 | then I'll have to move the stuff into a folder though :P | 19:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rZr: nobody but you can edit your #1 post, and wiki.maemo.org is defect | 19:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so pretty please, you started that thread, now maintain it | 19:13 |
| rZr | DocScrutinizer05, i can paste your data , but this is not efficient | 19:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I know it's not efficient, but we have no other method available ATM that would have a chance to work | 19:14 |
| rZr | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/MeeGo#MAEMO_Infrastructure_: | 19:15 |
| rZr | i updated that one | 19:15 |
| rZr | and will update post #1 as requested | 19:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, if you think it's less effort to sync a tmo thread and a page on mer-wiki, then go ahead | 19:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think it's as bad an idea as are two concurrent threads for one effort | 19:17 |
| rZr | i can understand | 19:17 |
| rZr | but 1st I wanted a wiki copy | 19:17 |
| rZr | then pple were talking about other things | 19:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not able to follow 2 or even 3 locations to keep up to date about what's going on | 19:18 |
| rZr | so i created a general thread | 19:18 |
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| rZr | well sorry I wish I would be hired by nokia to keep this on the regular locations | 19:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | the effort's name: community effort to backup maemo resources | 19:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | needs ONe place to coordinate stuff | 19:19 |
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| Pali | we need for it wiki | 19:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | alas wiki.maemo.org is down | 19:19 |
| Pali | but editable wiki | 19:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | basically | 19:19 |
| Pali | should I power on some wiki? | 19:19 |
| merlin1991 | Skry: hm can we automate the gathering of the pages? | 19:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: diversification | 19:20 |
| merlin1991 | because otherwise the cronjob will only catch edits but not new pages | 19:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so I'd think we don't need a 4th place to coordinate stuff | 19:20 |
| Pali | ok | 19:20 |
| Pali | so what use? | 19:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | post to http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87815 " backup of maemo resources - a community effort , keep zen no panic ...", rZr supposed to summarize stuff in post#1 | 19:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | like >>I did another backup of X, please add to table the following info: $resource|$resURL|$status|....<< | 19:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if wiki.maemo.org would work, I'd suggest to keep that table there, but since it's not.... | 19:24 |
| rZr | there are couple of candidates alternates wiki | 19:24 |
| rZr | mer, tizen and elinux | 19:24 |
| Skry | merlin1991: don't see why not? | 19:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: there's 'new pages' in 'special:' | 19:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you also could wget the shit from 'all-pages:(main)' by double dereference | 19:25 |
| merlin1991 | Skry: well I can't automate what you did on your machine, after all it's black box for me, that threw a txt file at me :D | 19:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rZr: nobody going to use those alternative wiki since they are neither maemo related nor anybody has edit rights, as a consequence to aformentioned point | 19:26 |
| Skry | DocScrutinizer05: was there any single page from where one could get all pages? | 19:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nope | 19:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you have like 8 'root' pages | 19:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry guys I can't stay here any longer, RL calling | 19:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bbl | 19:28 |
| Skry | ok, so it would just be best to wget the whole wiki (limit the recursive properly) and then do the grep/sed stuff | 19:29 |
| Skry | merlin1991: ^ | 19:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you'll get 100 times the real amount, due to all the special pages linked from each true page | 19:29 |
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| teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1293065#post1293065 | 19:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 'history', 'edit', 'talk', whatnot | 19:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: >> The mirror contains the full debian packages and sources archive for: - Community SSU (thumb and devel) << which one? | 19:31 |
| Skry | yeah, I know that, that's why I mentioned we should limit the recursion somehow, perhaps we could do full clone once and "manually" sort out the urls we actually need to wget from script to get everything related. | 19:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, nm | 19:31 |
| teotwaki | merlin1991: ^ | 19:31 |
| merlin1991 | teotwaki: you have everything, cssu stable cssu testing cssu thumb, and the not really cssu devel repo | 19:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: nope, the way is to wget the 8some 'root' pages, get the URLs out of them, and wget again with those | 19:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe do a second time | 19:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | all wgets without recursive | 19:33 |
| Skry | well, that's about what I did but did it manually | 19:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or maximum one recursion | 19:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | exactly | 19:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nevertheless, o/ | 19:34 |
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| Skry | o/ | 19:34 |
| Skry | I'll take a look at this later today | 19:34 |
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| Sysaxed2 | DocScrutinizer05, RL calling? change profile to silent :D | 19:36 |
| merlin1991 | bah digia is promtoing apple products as use case http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2012/10/30/cleaning-up-styles-in-qt5-and-adding-fusion/ (search for retina (that's not even a vaild thing) display) | 19:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: thanks again, pal! | 19:44 |
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| _rd | Sysaxed2, many thanks, I might do some simple as scp, that should be enough encryption. | 19:57 |
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| Sysaxed2 | _rd, good to hear :) It will be great if you came back to tell the results when it's ready | 19:59 |
| Sysaxed2 | because it's something I will need too | 19:59 |
| Sysaxed2 | chem|st, bzzzz! BZZZZ!!! | 20:00 |
| _rd | I still think best would be to have a short XMPP script and use azimuth, but writting the xmpp script is not trivial, and there is little activity in telepathy-gabble right now. | 20:00 |
| _rd | ...if I would be a good python code, I might be able to do that, but unfortunately I am now. | 20:01 |
| Sysaxed2 | python is quite easy | 20:02 |
| Sysaxed2 | just go and try it :) | 20:02 |
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| kerio | python is actually kinda tricky to get right | 20:24 |
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| Sysaxed2 | does anybody know how can I detect which keyset is compatible with my tv? | 20:33 |
| Sysaxed2 | in pierogi | 20:33 |
| Sysaxed2 | I've tried search panel, but it searches only the "power button" | 20:34 |
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| Sysaxed2 | any way to choose another button to search? | 20:34 |
| Snafu777 | why would u want to? | 20:36 |
| Snafu777 | if the power button works, then u know u got iot | 20:36 |
| Snafu777 | it | 20:36 |
| Sysaxed2 | really? O_o | 20:36 |
| Snafu777 | yeah | 20:36 |
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| Snafu777 | ? | 20:37 |
| Skry | more like, if the power button works, you're on a right track | 20:37 |
| Sysaxed2 | oh :o | 20:37 |
| Sysaxed2 | well, my tv turned of in the first 2-3 seconds of the search | 20:37 |
| * Snafu777 scratches his head | 20:37 | |
| Sysaxed2 | so I thought that many tvs share the same power button preset | 20:38 |
| Sysaxed2 | off* | 20:38 |
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| Sysaxed2 | ok, gonna do some more tests | 20:38 |
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| Skry | usually power button is the same for many models from one particular manufacturer, so if it works, probably other buttons work too but you may have some buttons wrong and some not recognized etc | 20:39 |
| Sysaxed2 | hmm, trying it out on my microlab speakers | 20:40 |
| Sysaxed2 | while searching it did change the volume up and down | 20:40 |
| Sysaxed2 | but didn't power off.. wtf... | 20:40 |
| Sysaxed2 | AHA | 20:40 |
| Sysaxed2 | HERE IT IS | 20:40 |
| Sysaxed2 | well, not really | 20:43 |
| Sysaxed2 | but yeah, I got it | 20:44 |
| Sysaxed2 | thanks | 20:44 |
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| Snafu777 | Anyone here interested in a working version of dhcp3-server, curl, ngrep, or proxychains for their N900? | 20:49 |
| _rd | Sysaxed2, I did try, but failed. Have a look here, maybe you are more successful than I was: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/telepathy/2012-October/006265.html | 20:49 |
| Sysaxed2 | _rd, what is this thing about? | 20:50 |
| Sysaxed2 | I mean.. what are you trying to achieve currently? | 20:50 |
| Snafu777 | i cant believe nobody is interested....? | 20:51 |
| Snafu777 | I thought this place was full of tinkerers... and Hackers... | 20:51 |
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| _rd | It logs gps information, which may be transfered via jabber. | 20:52 |
| _rd | on the n900 side there is the n900. | 20:52 |
| Skry | Snafu777: I have "normal" linux on my N900 incase i need to do tinkering / hacking / anything else but calling or playing music. | 20:53 |
| kerio | Snafu777: i thought that kind of thing already worked | 20:53 |
| Snafu777 | Nope | 20:53 |
| Snafu777 | Try it | 20:53 |
| Snafu777 | =) | 20:53 |
| kerio | first of all, to do dhcp you should use dnsmasq | 20:53 |
| Snafu777 | As far as I know, im one of the few who have it working, if not the only one | 20:53 |
| kerio | it's already running, for instance | 20:53 |
| Snafu777 | bleh | 20:53 |
| Snafu777 | not for doing evil ap type stuff | 20:53 |
| kerio | curl is also working perfectly for me | 20:53 |
| Snafu777 | which version of maemo are u using? | 20:53 |
| kerio | what does that mean? | 20:54 |
| Snafu777 | because i tried and tried, couldnt get it to work | 20:54 |
| Snafu777 | um | 20:54 |
| Snafu777 | 4.1, 5.0? | 20:54 |
| kerio | oh, you mean *that* kind of version | 20:54 |
| Snafu777 | Which repos are u pullin from | 20:54 |
| kerio | the n900 only runs fremantle | 20:54 |
| kerio | so maemo 5 :) | 20:54 |
| Snafu777 | okay | 20:54 |
| Snafu777 | Well | 20:54 |
| Snafu777 | I pulled curl together from 4.1 and 5.0 | 20:54 |
| kerio | curl 7.26.0-1maemo1+0cssu1+thumb1 | 20:54 |
| Snafu777 | because apt-get install curl doesnt do jack | 20:55 |
| Snafu777 | purge it, and try to reinstall? | 20:55 |
| _rd | Sysaxed2, I try to get GPS information logged. | 20:55 |
| kerio | curl is in extras-devel i believe | 20:55 |
| Snafu777 | apt-cache show it, and tell me the repo yer grabbin from? im guessing extras-devel? | 20:55 |
| Sysaxed2 | _rd, yep, I see | 20:55 |
| kerio | cssu-testing ships a more recent version, too | 20:55 |
| Sysaxed2 | _rd, try this page? http://wiki.maemo.org/PyMaemo/Using_Location_API | 20:55 |
| _rd | right now I try to transfer the file of gpslogger via scp. | 20:55 |
| Snafu777 | so how bout ngrep? | 20:56 |
| Sysaxed2 | ah | 20:56 |
| _rd | the nice thing with that script is that it uses xmpp, i.e. all the authentification, encryption, etc. stuff is solved. It is even cross platform. | 20:56 |
| _rd | But that requires to have the python script working. | 20:56 |
| kerio | Snafu777: i think it's just a matter of compiling it correctly \_o_/ | 20:56 |
| Snafu777 | compiling an apt-get? | 20:56 |
| kerio | nmap is also badly botched i think | 20:56 |
| Snafu777 | nmap works fine =) | 20:57 |
| kerio | not the one on the repos, last time i heard | 20:57 |
| Snafu777 | not the most recent one | 20:57 |
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| kerio | so... become the maintainer and start making good packages | 20:57 |
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| Snafu777 | downgrade to 5.50-2 | 20:57 |
| Sysaxed2 | _rd, I don't get it. There's a command line utility called 'scp', right? So you have an app that logs the data.. then just run scp command once to transfer the file and you're done. | 20:58 |
| Snafu777 | I'd love to be a maintainer of various stuff for the n900 | 20:58 |
| Snafu777 | I've been tinkering with this thing since i got it at DefCon this past july/august | 20:59 |
| Snafu777 | Since then, ive made it my mission to make the N900 the best it can be.... | 21:00 |
| _rd | Sysaxed2, yes that is my fallback solution. Nice thing is that it does not rely on a third party server, bad thing is that it essentially requires having an ssh key on my phone which allows to login to my server. | 21:00 |
| Snafu777 | I've gotten dhcp3-server working on it, which was a big deal because now u can run an evil access point with the n900, which makes for interesting pentest scenarios | 21:00 |
| _rd | but right now I am looking on the fallback solution. | 21:00 |
| Sysaxed2 | _rd, then don't use scp? | 21:01 |
| _rd | The more advanced one is then for a later time. | 21:01 |
| kerio | Snafu777: why do you need such a particular dhcp server? | 21:01 |
| teotwaki | _rd: rsync? | 21:01 |
| Snafu777 | It makes dishing out IP addressess the easiest | 21:01 |
| Snafu777 | its highly configurable | 21:01 |
| Sysaxed2 | _rd, as I can see the only good solution is to encrypt the data on the phone with the public key and then decode it on the server with private key | 21:01 |
| Snafu777 | and it just "works" well | 21:01 |
| kerio | isn't dnsmasq or... (apt-cache search dhcp) udhcpd good enough? | 21:01 |
| Snafu777 | compared to udhcpd | 21:01 |
| kerio | k | 21:01 |
| teotwaki | Sysaxed2: don't use public key encryption for large chunks. | 21:02 |
| Snafu777 | wow, didnt know that many were available | 21:02 |
| Snafu777 | but dhcpd is used on laptops more often than not for what I do | 21:02 |
| Sysaxed2 | teotwaki, large chunks? it's just some gps data! Shouldn't be that large | 21:02 |
| Snafu777 | See, I pentest =-) | 21:02 |
| Snafu777 | and PenTesting with a phone for 802.11 is MUCH less noticable than pulling out a laptop | 21:02 |
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| teotwaki | Sysaxed2: generate a symmetric key, encrypt the data using the symmetric key, send the data, encrypt the symmetric key with your public key, send the encrypted encryption key. | 21:03 |
| Snafu777 | A lot of the scripts I use within backtrack on my laptop, I have been porting over to the N900 | 21:03 |
| kerio | Snafu777: the n900 can't do hostAP though | 21:03 |
| _rd | thanks Sysaxed2 | 21:03 |
| Snafu777 | whatcha mean hostAP? | 21:03 |
| Snafu777 | U mean act as an access point? | 21:03 |
| kerio | users can probably notice that they're connecting to an adhoc wifi network | 21:03 |
| Snafu777 | Aint adhoc bro | 21:03 |
| Snafu777 | Access Point | 21:03 |
| kerio | ...the n900 can't do hostAP | 21:03 |
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| Sysaxed2 | kerio, oh, it can't? damn :O | 21:04 |
| Snafu777 | svn checkout http://n900-stuff.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/EvilAP EvilAP | 21:04 |
| Sysaxed2 | I always thought that it can | 21:04 |
| Snafu777 | The hell it cant | 21:04 |
| Snafu777 | Now, I havent added in the capability to forward packets to the sim card yet | 21:04 |
| Snafu777 | I just wanted a working version | 21:04 |
| azadpaki | how to install Ubuntu on N900 using Fedora OS? | 21:05 |
| Sysaxed2 | _rd, the whole script should be quite simple, just about 10 lines of code max | 21:05 |
| Snafu777 | It will work, I just havent added it yet, as it takes a little bit of time | 21:05 |
| Sysaxed2 | _rd, take the file, encrypt, send. done :) | 21:05 |
| Snafu777 | Ew | 21:05 |
| Sysaxed2 | _rd, oh, you'd have to keep track what was sent already... but that part is not that hard | 21:05 |
| Snafu777 | If u run the install script | 21:06 |
| Snafu777 | U need to have pwnphone on yer phone =) | 21:06 |
| Snafu777 | if u dont have pwnphone | 21:06 |
| kerio | why would i want a bundle of opensource software sold for $995? | 21:06 |
| Snafu777 | Um | 21:06 |
| Snafu777 | Buy an N900 for like $300 and install it yerself? | 21:07 |
| Snafu777 | Like me? | 21:07 |
| Snafu777 | And that bundle is impressive, just so ya know | 21:07 |
| kerio | ooh, 995 also gives you a n900 | 21:07 |
| Snafu777 | Its free dude, if u already have an n900 | 21:08 |
| Snafu777 | the Price is meant for people who dont have an n900 and dont want to take the time to install it themselves | 21:08 |
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| Snafu777 | as it does require nix knowledge | 21:08 |
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| Snafu777 | But back to the main pt of the convo, yes u can make the N900 into an Access Point | 21:08 |
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| Snafu777 | to do so requires a reliable and configurable dhcp server | 21:09 |
| Snafu777 | and thats where dhcpd comes in =) | 21:09 |
| kerio | dude, dnsmasq is preinstalled | 21:09 |
| kerio | and you have to push some fucking IP addresses | 21:09 |
| Snafu777 | push an ip address? | 21:10 |
| kerio | what do you think a dhcp server does? | 21:10 |
| * Snafu777 are u seriously asking me? | 21:10 | |
| Snafu777 | Dude, im a fuckin hacker....Really? | 21:10 |
| Snafu777 | Yes i know what a dhcp server does | 21:10 |
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| kerio | what are the advantages of dhcp3-server over udhcpd or dnsmasq then? | 21:11 |
| Snafu777 | Okay, for starters, udhcpd doesnt log given ips properly | 21:11 |
| Snafu777 | dhcp3-server is widely known in the pentesting community | 21:12 |
| Snafu777 | dhcp3-server can handle multiple subnets | 21:12 |
| Snafu777 | dhcp3-server is the defacto dhcp server for 98.2% of all PenTesting scripts | 21:12 |
| Snafu777 | I made that % up btw | 21:12 |
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| Snafu777 | but look at any "GOOD" pentesting script that dishes out an IP | 21:13 |
| Snafu777 | and u will find dhcpd | 21:13 |
| Snafu777 | Not anything else | 21:13 |
| Snafu777 | dnsmasq might be "good" but its not used in the pentesting world to my knowledge... | 21:13 |
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| Snafu777 | I mean heck....This is from the page of dnsmasq itself: It is designed to provide DNS and, optionally, DHCP, to a small network. | 21:15 |
| Snafu777 | See the optionally part? | 21:15 |
| Snafu777 | dhcp was an afterthought | 21:15 |
| Snafu777 | DNS is the primary part | 21:15 |
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| Snafu777 | kerio? | 21:19 |
| Skry | So something being optional automaticly make it a poor option? it does what it promises very well, is widely used, proven choice. Wether it is an afterthought or not is as irrelevant, as is the optionality of feature X. | 21:20 |
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| Snafu777 | Nice point Skry | 21:21 |
| Snafu777 | But.... For instance, do you have a dhcp server that u use for the n900? | 21:21 |
| Snafu777 | If so, why? | 21:21 |
| Snafu777 | ? | 21:23 |
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| Skry | I have no use for dhcp server on my n900. If I need to share the connection, I'll just use mobilehotspot. | 21:28 |
| Sicelo | Snafu777: i've personally used the N900 as a dhcp server using the built-in dnsmasq. no issues whatsoever. | 21:29 |
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| Snafu777 | Sicelo, what did u use it for? the dhcp server | 21:31 |
| Skry | Also, I find it quite questionable to rely on n900 as ap/router/whatever on networks/subnets that large you'll have to have something that scales that much | 21:31 |
| kerio | Pali: setting the charging mode to "none" will permanently disable any charging, right? | 21:31 |
| Pali | yes | 21:31 |
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| Sicelo | Snafu777: to quote, "push an ip address", lol | 21:32 |
| kerio | Pali: hmm, are the paths in /sys/class/power_supply/ always the same? | 21:33 |
| Snafu777 | omg | 21:33 |
| Snafu777 | this confuses the shit out of me | 21:33 |
| Pali | kerio, yes | 21:33 |
| Pali | (in kp52 will be change) | 21:33 |
| Snafu777 | So here we go, does anyone in this chan, HACK with their n900? | 21:33 |
| Snafu777 | because this is like talking to a bunch of computer programmers.... | 21:33 |
| Snafu777 | The disconnect here | 21:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | define 'HACK' | 21:34 |
| Snafu777 | Pentest | 21:34 |
| Sicelo | Snafu777: just look at tmo .. pentesting was being done probably before you had your N900 | 21:34 |
| Snafu777 | Perform Penetration Testing of an Organization | 21:34 |
| Snafu777 | tmo? | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Snafu777: ^H^H^H^H I don't think a hacker is somebody doing pentests | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we hackers call such people script kiddies usually | 21:35 |
| kerio | Pali: when does your hald-addon-bme cause a shutdown due to low battery? | 21:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | unless they're doing serious professional business, when they are called pentesters | 21:36 |
| Snafu777 | Actually I refer to a hacker by the MIT definition from its model railroad club | 21:37 |
| Pali | kerio, when EDVF is set | 21:37 |
| marcellux | snafu777. many thing you can do with backtrack, you can also do with maemo | 21:37 |
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| Snafu777 | maemo lacks some functions | 21:37 |
| kerio | Pali: so you should be able to drop to EDV1 and wait for bq27k to notice it | 21:37 |
| Snafu777 | but thats why im hackin stuff together, to make it work, and push it out to people | 21:37 |
| kerio | Snafu777: like what? :o | 21:38 |
| Snafu777 | ngrep | 21:38 |
| Snafu777 | u got it? | 21:38 |
| Pali | kerio, when EDV1 is set then battery is too low | 21:38 |
| Pali | it sent dbus meesage to all apps | 21:38 |
| kerio | Pali: you said EDVF | 21:38 |
| Pali | so status menu widget will show battery low message | 21:38 |
| teotwaki | Snafu777: you bore me | 21:38 |
| kerio | oh, i see | 21:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: +1 | 21:38 |
| kerio | "low battery" at EDV1, shutdown at EDVF | 21:38 |
| Snafu777 | kerio, u got ngrep? | 21:38 |
| Pali | when EDVF is set then if tell DSME to turn off phone | 21:38 |
| Snafu777 | Im glad i bore u | 21:39 |
| Snafu777 | whoopie for u | 21:39 |
| Snafu777 | the fact that some of you people in here dont do what u can do with the n900 is saddening | 21:39 |
| Snafu777 | the fact that u dont push the n900 to do what it can do is heartbreaking | 21:39 |
| teotwaki | Snafu777: the fact you believe you've invented warm water is saddening. | 21:39 |
| kerio | goddammit, i thought people like this didn't actually exist | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | real hacker! shy, humble, savvy, and never offensive | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LOL | 21:40 |
| freemangordon | :D:D:D | 21:40 |
| teotwaki | is that the MIT definition? | 21:40 |
| freemangordon | nice chat here I see | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nah | 21:40 |
| Snafu777 | Ya know what? I dont really care wtf u think | 21:40 |
| Snafu777 | I know im doin good work | 21:40 |
| teotwaki | cool | 21:40 |
| teotwaki | well, you keep patting yourself on the back | 21:40 |
| Snafu777 | and like i said, if u want ngrep, or proxychains, or curl, etc.... talk to me | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I know you're kinda spoiling this channel | 21:40 |
| Snafu777 | Okay teotwaki | 21:40 |
| Snafu777 | Make proxychains work | 21:41 |
| Snafu777 | plz | 21:41 |
| Snafu777 | If i suck so much | 21:41 |
| Snafu777 | Show me i do | 21:41 |
| Snafu777 | cuz I got it working, can u? | 21:41 |
| Snafu777 | if not, then why talkt rash to me? | 21:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Snafu777: ok, you got the longest | 21:41 |
| kerio | i'm not exactly sure doing ./configure && make && make install is such a l33t thing to do | 21:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | now that we all know about that important fact, can we pelase stop this BS? | 21:41 |
| Snafu777 | Oh yeha? that easy right? | 21:41 |
| Snafu777 | ./configure && make && make install | 21:41 |
| Snafu777 | if it was that simple, do u think i would bring it up? | 21:42 |
| Snafu777 | Seriosuly? | 21:42 |
| teotwaki | Snafu777: I don't have anything to prove to you | 21:42 |
| Snafu777 | And neither do I to u | 21:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Snafu777: 1st warning, general style, offensiveness, spamming, speech | 21:42 |
| Snafu777 | Yah know what, Fuck off | 21:42 |
| teotwaki | Snafu777: now either bring something interesting to the conversation | 21:42 |
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| teotwaki | Snafu777: or leave | 21:42 |
| kerio | Pali: there are no individual files for registers in bq27x00_battery :( | 21:43 |
| teotwaki | <Snafu777> You can all go fuck yourselves, I hope yer fuckin maemo bullshit dies | 21:43 |
| Pali | kerio, and what? | 21:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's a clear ban already | 21:43 |
| kerio | and i has a sad :( | 21:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: ^^^ | 21:43 |
| teotwaki | well | 21:44 |
| teotwaki | he didn't do it on the channel | 21:44 |
| kerio | Pali: people want individual files for flags! | 21:44 |
| teotwaki | no reason to ban him from it | 21:44 |
| Pali | kerio, I did not see any patch in my mailbox | 21:44 |
| kerio | Pali: but... i don't know anything about kernel programming! :( | 21:44 |
| Pali | and I do not have time | 21:44 |
| freemangordon | Pali: any cluse if GSList is thread safe? | 21:45 |
| freemangordon | *clue | 21:45 |
| Pali | I never used that | 21:45 |
| Pali | but I think no | 21:45 |
| freemangordon | ok, seems like that | 21:45 |
| Pali | many (or all) functions are not thread safe and some of them are reentrant | 21:46 |
| Pali | with _r suffix | 21:46 |
| Skry | sad | 21:46 |
| freemangordon | hmm, it is something else, info threads results in only one thread :( | 21:47 |
| freemangordon | in gdb that is | 21:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-11-11 20:47:23] <Snafu777> You can ban me if ya want you fuckin twit, keep talkin shit to the wrong motherfucker and one day you wont like the damn consequences, when u meet the motherfucker who just might pwn yer stupid ass for talking down to them. You stupid fuckin little twit | 21:49 |
| kerio | epic | 21:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-11-11 20:48:49] <Snafu777> Oh threatening me now eh? Ill slap the dogshit out of you. | 21:49 |
| kerio | Pali: a | 21:49 |
| kerio | whoops | 21:49 |
| freemangordon | well, the guy seems high | 21:49 |
| kerio | Pali: is time_to_* in seconds? | 21:50 |
| Pali | yes | 21:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-11-11 20:51:03] [CTCP] Received CTCP-PING request from Snafu777, sending answer. | 21:51 |
| rZr | DocScrutinizer05, what a day | 21:51 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: talk about it with the freenode staff | 21:51 |
| teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05 & kerio: done, he's been reported | 21:52 |
| kerio | they dislike assholes, usually | 21:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | teotwaki: thanks | 21:52 |
| teotwaki | DocScrutinizer05: just /ignore him and don't reply, I didn't rely to his childish PM, he gave up. | 21:53 |
| teotwaki | reply** | 21:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 21:53 |
| teotwaki | (p key is failing on this laptop) | 21:53 |
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| * ShadowJK once had a script, that automatically put people he banned on ignore | 21:54 | |
| teotwaki | ShadowJK: which is a great way to be an abusive op, and not notice it. | 21:55 |
| teotwaki | not implying you were abusive or anything, just that I have a tendency to be. | 21:55 |
| ShadowJK | :) | 21:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fun part: nobody banned him (today) | 21:55 |
| teotwaki | not yesterday either | 21:55 |
| teotwaki | he got kicked, is all | 21:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep | 21:55 |
| ShadowJK | lol | 21:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | he's even registered, amazing | 21:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cloaked | 21:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | too much angeldust I guess | 21:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or crack | 21:57 |
| kerio | ~pali | 21:59 |
| kerio | ...where's infobot? | 21:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm | 21:59 |
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| kerio | Pali: wtf is isp1704_charger? :O | 22:00 |
| Pali | fastcharger detection | 22:01 |
| Pali | in maemo kernel it is part of musb driver | 22:01 |
| kerio | oic | 22:01 |
| Pali | in upstream kernel it is separate kernel module | 22:01 |
| kerio | can i enable boost mode while the wallcharger is connected? | 22:01 |
| Pali | kerio, you can everything | 22:02 |
| kerio | i mean without blowing anything up | 22:02 |
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| Pali | bq2415x_charger allow you to do want you want | 22:02 |
| kerio | hm, boost mode doesn't use a lot more current, apparently | 22:03 |
| kerio | without anything connected, i mean | 22:03 |
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| kerio | ...which makes sense | 22:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: thanks | 22:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: seems server down | 22:03 |
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| kerio | Pali: hm, what turns on the blue led during boost mode? | 22:03 |
| kerio | does the kernel module talk directly to mce? | 22:04 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05, what? | 22:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: ibot | 22:04 |
| Pali | ok | 22:04 |
| Pali | kerio, HW | 22:04 |
| Pali | no | 22:04 |
| Pali | hald-addon-bme | 22:04 |
| Pali | or usbmode.sh | 22:04 |
| Pali | via mce | 22:04 |
| kerio | i see | 22:04 |
| kerio | well, if hald-addon-bme can do that, then usbmode.sh doesn't really have to worry about it | 22:05 |
| kerio | i'm testing my new and improved bq27k calibration script | 22:05 |
| kolp | kerio: Can it be used with Pali's bme replacement? | 22:06 |
| kerio | kolp: only with it :) | 22:07 |
| Pali | you can use this: https://code.launchpad.net/~pali/+junk/maemo_libbqioctl | 22:07 |
| Pali | this is LD_PRELOAD library which redirect i2cget calls to bq27x00_battery | 22:07 |
| Pali | so bq27200.sh script working wih bq27x00_battery kernel module :-) | 22:07 |
| Pali | I'm using it | 22:07 |
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| kerio | Pali: that's... backwards D: | 22:08 |
| kolp | kerio, Pali: Awesome :) | 22:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: indeed | 22:08 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05: tell him to stop! :'( | 22:08 |
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| kerio | wtf is /dev/bq27200-0? :o | 22:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | maybe that's the "I2C" device to bq27200? | 22:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that indeed would make some sense | 22:12 |
| kerio | i really wonder how could i still have VDQ, considering bq2415x_charger's weird behaviour wrt charge termination | 22:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so instead of i2cget 2 I'd use i2cget /dev/bq27200-0 | 22:13 |
| freemangordon | Pali: the problem was not that it is notMT safe, but that g_slist_free does not assign NULL to root element | 22:13 |
| freemangordon | so when I g_slist_append later, the memory access is invalid | 22:13 |
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| kerio | hrmpf, something is kinda fucked up with my n900 | 22:16 |
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| kerio | i can't turn it off properly | 22:16 |
| kerio | it goes in fucking ACT_DEAD mode | 22:16 |
| freemangordon | kerio: what is that supposed to mean? | 22:16 |
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| freemangordon | do you have alarm setup? | 22:17 |
| freemangordon | *set up | 22:17 |
| kerio | yes, but the future alarm is quite far away | 22:17 |
| freemangordon | hmm | 22:18 |
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| freemangordon | strange | 22:18 |
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| kerio | actually no, it's even weirder | 22:18 |
| kerio | i can turn it off | 22:18 |
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| kerio | but when i push the power button, it boots into ACT_DEAD | 22:18 |
| kerio | oh no nvm, it does that automatically | 22:18 |
| kerio | WHAT THE SHIT | 22:18 |
| kerio | i'm fucking halting from rescueos | 22:19 |
| freemangordon | aah, you have some neat stuff installed | 22:20 |
| kerio | ok, halting from rescueOS finally succeded, i suppose | 22:20 |
| kerio | freemangordon: i do have some neat stuff installed :) | 22:22 |
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| kerio | hahaha i'm pinging my n900 via wifi *and* bt pan | 22:28 |
| kerio | the latency is horrendous on both ways | 22:28 |
| freemangordon | turn power saving off | 22:28 |
| kerio | it doesn't use a lot of power though :( | 22:28 |
| kerio | oh right, i could turn that off | 22:28 |
| kerio | freemangordon: hm, how do i use more power? | 22:31 |
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| kerio | oooh, wifi monitor mode | 22:31 |
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| kerio | 400mA :D | 22:33 |
| jaska | 400mA.. you can probably feel the heat dissipation from that | 22:33 |
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| kerio | hi infobot! | 22:45 |
| kerio | we missed you! | 22:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-11-11 21:19:45] <TimRikerEvo4G> power is out. infobot down | 22:49 |
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| teotwaki | infobot is hosted at Tim's home? | 23:05 |
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| chem|st | Sysaxed2: pong | 23:13 |
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| Sysaxed2 | chem|st, Hi! | 23:13 |
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| Sysaxed2 | chem|st, I've made a post on the tmo but when making a thread it said that it should be verified by a moderator | 23:14 |
| chem|st | lnk? | 23:14 |
| Sysaxed2 | chem|st, so DocScrutinizer05 told me to get you to do this :) | 23:15 |
| Sysaxed2 | I can't get a link | 23:15 |
| Sysaxed2 | but my nickname on tmo is "sysaxed" | 23:15 |
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| Sysaxed2 | and the thread was about volume keys used as shortut | 23:15 |
| Sysaxed2 | or how can I get a link? | 23:15 |
| chem|st | live | 23:16 |
| chem|st | you should see your own posts at least in your profile | 23:16 |
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| chem|st | even if moderated | 23:17 |
| chem|st | and cut that python crap... it is getting me on a rampage | 23:17 |
| chem|st | bye | 23:18 |
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| teotwaki | chem|st: "cut the python crap"? | 23:19 |
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| Sysaxed2 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1293036 | 23:23 |
| Sysaxed2 | oh, or you've already found it.. | 23:23 |
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| Sysaxed2 | oh no.. oh no... | 23:27 |
| Sysaxed2 | my n900 turned off and now it's unable to boot... | 23:27 |
| teotwaki | Sysaxed2: were you using that script you posted about? | 23:28 |
| Sysaxed2 | nope | 23:29 |
| Sysaxed2 | ok! booted after removing the battery | 23:29 |
| chem|st | Sysaxed2: python is a pain ever since putting it on to the n900 | 23:29 |
| Sysaxed2 | chem|st, why? what's wrong? | 23:29 |
| chem|st | the latest?! I needed to install some python-dev crap to build libxml2 with which I got disabled building modest no more! | 23:31 |
| chem|st | it was eating my desktop and my home | 23:31 |
| Sysaxed2 | well, you don't need anything to run that script.. so it's fine... | 23:31 |
| chem|st | in terms of hildon-$ | 23:31 |
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| chem|st | Sysaxed2: you need python... | 23:31 |
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| Sysaxed2 | chem|st, yes, it's most probably already installed if you have some apps installed | 23:32 |
| Sysaxed2 | if not, well, of course it needs python... | 23:32 |
| chem|st | the only thing I ever found reliable in python was battlefield2 (the game) | 23:32 |
| Sysaxed2 | python is fine.. just an object oriented bash :D | 23:32 |
| chem|st | everything else was quick and dirty as any other proper language would eat time | 23:33 |
| chem|st | enough rant, for real now, bye cu 2morow | 23:33 |
| teotwaki | chem|st: have you tried twisted/cyclone? | 23:34 |
| teotwaki | chem|st: wait | 23:34 |
| teotwaki | chem|st: do you have the ability to remove polls from a thread? | 23:34 |
| teotwaki | chem|st: the two archival threads in community could use with the poll removal | 23:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | also could use thread merge | 23:52 |
| vi__ | why? | 23:58 |
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