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| Skry | freemangordon: did you try disabling hpet in boot args, or is it something you cant live without? | 00:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | high precision e??? timers? | 00:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~wtf hpet | 00:27 |
| infobot | Gee... I don't know what hpet means... | 00:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~wiki hpet | 00:27 |
| Skry | yeah, high precision timer | 00:28 |
| infobot | At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPET (URL), Wikipedia explains: "The 'High Precision Event Timer' is a hardware timer used in personal computers. It was developed jointly by Intel and Microsoft and has been incorporated in PC chipsets since circa 2005. Formerly referred to by Intel as a "Multimedia Timer", the term 'HPET' was selected to avoid confusion with the multimedia timers software feature introduced in the MultiMedia Extensions to Windows ... | 00:28 |
| Skry | its not uncommon to have problems with it on some older mb | 00:29 |
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| freemangordon | "Pali and guys, a huge thank you goes out to you, awesome work! The driver looks great, just a few cosmetic issues." | 08:46 |
| freemangordon | WTF, i would've not believe that :D | 08:47 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: ^^^ | 08:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | already seen it | 08:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-) | 08:47 |
| freemangordon | Yeah, I know you are cc-ed, just in case you've missed it | 08:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: what's filesize limit (if any) in maemo kernel? | 08:49 |
| freemangordon | it uses 64 bit AFAIK | 08:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | is our kernel still a 32bit kernel, or does it have 64bit file extensions? | 08:50 |
| freemangordon | ^^^ | 08:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 08:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: so what's max filesize on VFAT, by design? | 08:50 |
| freemangordon | 4GB for fat32 iirc | 08:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | is it max(uint32) or max(int32)? | 08:51 |
| freemangordon | max(uint32), iirc | 08:51 |
| freemangordon | or better said 4095MB | 08:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | evidently on MyDocs stuff like recorder blows chunks on filesize >2GB | 08:52 |
| freemangordon | as -1 is end of cluster chain marker | 08:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~2**31 | 08:53 |
| infobot | 2147483648 | 08:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~2**32 | 08:53 |
| infobot | 4294967296 | 08:53 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: ever heard of non-working fmtx? | 08:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah | 08:54 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | often | 08:54 |
| freemangordon | there is a guy on TMO who says SR does not work for him, but his fmtx does not work too. I wonder is it is something with i2c on his device | 08:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | SR? | 08:55 |
| freemangordon | as SR sets values which are higher that what he use without SR | 08:55 |
| freemangordon | SmartReflex | 08:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aah, smartreflex | 08:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm | 08:56 |
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| freemangordon | so, what coud cause fmtx to not work? | 08:56 |
| freemangordon | besides SW | 08:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | needs some pondering, for now I think it's not a general I2C issue | 08:56 |
| freemangordon | I recommended a reflash, lets see how it will be after that | 08:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | btw SR is using a dedicated (i2c) link between CPU and twl4030 | 08:58 |
| freemangordon | yeah, you are correct | 08:59 |
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| vi_ | btw SR is using a dedicated (i2c) link between CPU | 10:42 |
| vi_ | and twl4030 | 10:42 |
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| vi_ | ~57/0 | 10:43 |
| vi_ | ~2*2 | 10:44 |
| infobot | 4 | 10:44 |
| vi_ | ~57/57 | 10:44 |
| infobot | 1 | 10:44 |
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| vi_ | ~57/-0 | 10:44 |
| vi_ | ~x=4 | 10:44 |
| vi_ | ~x+5 | 10:45 |
| vi_ | infobot: do you dream of electric shhep? | 10:45 |
| infobot | yes, I dream of electric shhep. | 10:45 |
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| vi_ | infobot: do you dream of david hasslehoff? | 10:45 |
| infobot | yes, I dream of david hasslehoff. | 10:45 |
| vi_ | infobot: do you eat bacon? | 10:46 |
| infobot | yes, I eat bacon. | 10:46 |
| vi_ | infobot: do you? | 10:46 |
| * infobot does you. | 10:46 | |
| jaska | eww | 10:46 |
| vi_ | infobot: do you ? | 10:46 |
| * infobot does you. | 10:46 | |
| vi_ | infobot: do you 57/0? | 10:46 |
| infobot | yes, I 57/0. | 10:46 |
| vi_ | infobot: have you? | 10:47 |
| vi_ | infobot: have you slept? | 10:47 |
| vi_ | infobot: will you eat a donut? | 10:47 |
| MrPingu | ~cookie | 10:47 |
| infobot | Hey mrpingu, kernel traffic is http://kt.zork.net/ | 10:47 |
| MrPingu | ~botsnack | 10:48 |
| vi_ | infobot: could you squat a krankenwagen? | 10:48 |
| infobot | thanks, MrPingu | 10:48 |
| vi_ | good morning senior pingu. | 10:48 |
| vi_ | ~22/7 | 10:49 |
| infobot | 3.142857142857 | 10:49 |
| vi_ | ~pi | 10:49 |
| infobot | well, pi is 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091 | 10:49 |
| vi_ | ~-1(22/7)+pi | 10:49 |
| vi_ | ~-1(22/7) | 10:50 |
| MrPingu | good morning vi_ | 10:50 |
| vi_ | ~(-1(22/7)) | 10:50 |
| MrPingu | probably you are more senior than me :P | 10:50 |
| vi_ | ~((22/7)*1) | 10:50 |
| infobot | 3.142857142857 | 10:50 |
| vi_ | ~((22/7)*-1) | 10:50 |
| infobot | -3.142857142857 | 10:50 |
| vi_ | ~((22/7)*-1)*pi | 10:50 |
| infobot | -9.8735769 | 10:50 |
| vi_ | ~((22/7)*-1)+pi | 10:50 |
| infobot | -0.001264492857 | 10:50 |
| vi_ | whoa | 10:50 |
| vi_ | keanu_reeves.jpg | 10:51 |
| vi_ | ~tau | 10:52 |
| infobot | tau is, like, the difference between a velocity and c or the freaks' name for phi or a Greek letter | 10:52 |
| vi_ | ~phi | 10:52 |
| infobot | methinks phi is the golden number, (sqrt(5) + 1)/2, or approximately 1.618034. Only freaks call it tau | 10:52 |
| MrPingu | ~disturb vi_ | 10:53 |
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| vi_ | ~calc 1+2 | 10:53 |
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| MrPingu | ~whaleslap vi_ | 10:54 |
| * infobot beats vi_ upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh | 10:54 | |
| MrPingu | vi_: sorry it has to be you :P | 10:55 |
| vi_ | :( | 10:55 |
| vi_ | calc 5*9 | 10:55 |
| vi_ | ~calc 5*9 | 10:55 |
| MrPingu | ~5*9 | 10:56 |
| infobot | 45 | 10:56 |
| vi_ | ~!99999999999999 | 10:56 |
| vi_ | infobot: you are alive? | 10:56 |
| infobot | vi_: what are you talking about? | 10:56 |
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| MrPingu | vi_: by chance using irssi on N900? | 10:57 |
| vi_ | ~HAKMEM | 10:59 |
| vi_ | MrPingu: nope | 10:59 |
| vi_ | Just trying to get this infobot noob to compute factorials. | 11:00 |
| vi_ | ~!(22) | 11:00 |
| vi_ | whats your damage infobot? | 11:00 |
| jaska | 1d6+1 | 11:00 |
| vi_ | jaska: bwahahaaa. | 11:01 |
| vi_ | please explain D&D syntax. | 11:01 |
| jaska | no. | 11:01 |
| vi_ | that is a 1 roll of a six sided dice + 1? | 11:01 |
| jaska | yes | 11:01 |
| vi_ | I wish I could play D&D. | 11:02 |
| vi_ | Drink ale, listen to folk metal and play some D&D. | 11:02 |
| vi_ | That'd be sweet. | 11:02 |
| teotwaki | ale? | 11:02 |
| teotwaki | Think mountain dew. | 11:02 |
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| jaska | id prefer beer over mtdew | 11:02 |
| vi_ | Is that what D&D'ers drink? | 11:03 |
| jaska | too much and it ends up as carpe dm (seize the dm) | 11:03 |
| vi_ | That is totally lame and non metal. | 11:03 |
| teotwaki | vi_: why would it be metal? | 11:03 |
| vi_ | D&D~=metal right? | 11:03 |
| teotwaki | not at all. | 11:03 |
| teotwaki | you're making wild assumptions. | 11:03 |
| teotwaki | I'd say most D&D'ers don't listen to music, because they're not allowed to bring the stereo down to the basement. | 11:04 |
| teotwaki | But that was in my day, these days, I guess you get music on their phones and shit | 11:05 |
| teotwaki | If you a good GM, he'll have a number of playlists ready that suit the location of your characters (tavern, woods, etc) | 11:07 |
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| peetah | someone know how to fix a failed enhanced busybox update ? I updated from the last CSSU testing to its thumb equivalent, and something went wrong, but the log do not show anything relevant. And now, no shell available ... | 11:14 |
| peetah | so before re installing my latest backup, is there a way to fix this in a less radical way ? | 11:15 |
| peetah | would mounting rootfs when in backupmenu and copying the relevant file from enhanced busybox package be a possible solution ? | 11:17 |
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| vi_ | peetah: well...you are pretty much fucked. | 11:26 |
| freemangordon | peetah: what " failed enhanced busybox update" means | 11:26 |
| freemangordon | ? | 11:26 |
| peetah | FAP said: something went wrong look at the log, but the log do not report any issues | 11:27 |
| freemangordon | aah, FAM, I see | 11:27 |
| peetah | so that was one of the cas where HAM was required uh ? | 11:28 |
| peetah | *case | 11:28 |
| peetah | I though HAM was required only for mp* updates | 11:29 |
| peetah | anyway, would the root mounting solution be possible to solve this ? | 11:30 |
| peetah | vi_: not fucked: that would only require to reinstall a backup, no big deal, but I would rather like to find something less destructive | 11:32 |
| freemangordon | hmm, so you installed bb-power from -thumb and it failed? | 11:33 |
| freemangordon | weird | 11:33 |
| freemangordon | peetah: I thought you installed CSSU-thumb by using FAM, obviously that's not the case | 11:34 |
| peetah | freemangordon: yep: the cssu-testing version update fine one or two days ago | 11:34 |
| peetah | freemangordon: no, every thumb update or installation are made with HAM | 11:35 |
| freemangordon | peetah: you can try to chroot and install by using dpkg | 11:35 |
| freemangordon | at least you'll have an idea what's wrong | 11:35 |
| freemangordon | BTW can you boot to maemo? | 11:35 |
| peetah | hehe chroot from where ? I'm not sure my x86 desktop will like to execute chrooted arm binaries :) | 11:36 |
| peetah | I did not dare to reboot for now :) | 11:36 |
| freemangordon | can't you just reinstall the stuff? | 11:36 |
| peetah | no: no shell = no FAM ... ha but maybe HAM works, let me check | 11:37 |
| freemangordon | I don;t know if bb-power appears in HAM, but you can try to uninstall/install | 11:37 |
| freemangordon | but you should have the red pill mode, not that I know how to enable it :D | 11:37 |
| peetah | nope | 11:37 |
| freemangordon | nope? | 11:38 |
| peetah | I guess the only solution is to mount the rootfs somewhere and extract bb-power files from the .deb there | 11:38 |
| peetah | HAM do not work without a shell | 11:38 |
| freemangordon | aah | 11:38 |
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| freemangordon | peetah: not sure you can mount rootfs outside of the device | 11:40 |
| peetah | freemangordon: but is backup menu using busybox to do its stuff ? | 11:40 |
| freemangordon | NFC | 11:40 |
| freemangordon | do you have u-boot? | 11:40 |
| peetah | yep | 11:41 |
| freemangordon | boot then from uSD, chroot to maemo rootfs and do dpkg -i | 11:41 |
| freemangordon | hmm | 11:41 |
| peetah | yes ! I have nemo installed there so I can chroot | 11:41 |
| peetah | thanks | 11:42 |
| freemangordon | won't work | 11:42 |
| peetah | why ? | 11:42 |
| freemangordon | you won't be able to chroot | 11:42 |
| freemangordon | if there is no shell :D | 11:42 |
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| peetah | sure :) | 11:42 |
| freemangordon | though you may try to copy/link only sh | 11:43 |
| peetah | and how booting from uSD with u-boot would do the trick then | 11:43 |
| peetah | ? | 11:43 |
| freemangordon | it won;t , that is what I am saying | 11:43 |
| peetah | ok | 11:43 |
| freemangordon | but you may try to chroot with sh copied first | 11:43 |
| freemangordon | btw do you have bash? | 11:44 |
| peetah | I will try that thanks | 11:44 |
| freemangordon | ok | 11:44 |
| peetah | no, no bash, not that I remember of | 11:44 |
| peetah | still interested to know if maemo boot without a shell ? | 11:44 |
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| peetah | well it seems it does not ... | 11:46 |
| vi_ | It is totally blown. | 11:47 |
| freemangordon | no way, as preinit starts with #! /bin/sh :D:D | 11:47 |
| vi_ | If you smoke BB. | 11:47 |
| vi_ | BM will not work. | 11:47 |
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| peetah | what is the device to mount in order to access maemo rootfs from a nemo install ? | 11:56 |
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| freemangordon | peetah: do you have ubifs? | 12:07 |
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| peetah | dont't think so... how can I check ? | 12:08 |
| peetah | well I guess if I don't know then I don't have it ? | 12:09 |
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| peetah | ah i got a /dev/ubi_ctrl | 12:10 |
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| peetah | freemangordon: ^^ | 12:10 |
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| freemangordon | peetah: afaik you need ubifs support to be able to mount rootfs | 12:30 |
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| peetah | yes I found that post explaining everything: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=73751 | 12:32 |
| peetah | will try later thanks | 12:32 |
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| vi_ | screen protectors, you get what you pay for. | 12:47 |
| vi_ | I bought 6 for 2euro. | 12:47 |
| vi_ | I just used all 6 trying to get one to go down without bubbling like shit. | 12:47 |
| Lava_Croft | my wife is probably the only person who has a screen protector *only* on the back of her iphone4 | 12:47 |
| vi_ | I even tried 'floating' one on with isopropyl alchohol. | 12:47 |
| vi_ | Lava_Croft: lol, wut. | 12:48 |
| vi_ | She knows the screen is on the front, right? | 12:48 |
| Lava_Croft | yes | 12:48 |
| merlin1991 | ... | 12:48 |
| Lava_Croft | but she dont like the feel | 12:48 |
| Lava_Croft | and the back of the iphone4 is lolglass too | 12:48 |
| Lava_Croft | on the N9, screen protectors are even worse | 12:48 |
| Lava_Croft | due to the swiping | 12:48 |
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| vi_ | kerio: ping | 13:02 |
| vi_ | kerio: where did you purchase your n900 otterbox? | 13:02 |
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| jaska | o.O | 13:04 |
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| vi_ | I cannot find anywhere that sells it anymore. | 13:07 |
| vi_ | It is not even listed on the otterbox site! | 13:07 |
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| freemangordon | Pali: ping | 13:08 |
| Pali | freemangordon, pong | 13:08 |
| freemangordon | Pali: seeing how easy your battery driver upstreaming goes, do you mind to upstream the security framework drivers too? :P | 13:09 |
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| Pali | which security framework? | 13:10 |
| freemangordon | the one that sets IBE bit in ACR, thumb2 stuff | 13:10 |
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| Pali | freemangordon, you can try it too :-) | 13:10 |
| freemangordon | Pali: Can I? :D | 13:11 |
| Pali | but I think that it will not be possible to upstream it in battery section :-) | 13:11 |
| Pali | of course | 13:11 |
| freemangordon | aah, that's for sure | 13:11 |
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| Pali | freemangordon, I think you could try to upstream it | 13:14 |
| Pali | you have also working upstream kernel on maemo, so you can test it | 13:14 |
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| pogay | hi, I like to use my N900 as a transmitter and to distribute the music of old vinyl-lP's. I'm wondering wheather it's possible, resp. how is the best way, to get the music to the n900 as input fuer the FM-TRansit or dnla-Server. | 13:29 |
| pogay | there also seem's usb-adapters arround, but I'm not shure, wether it's usable via N900 (with active usb). | 13:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | pogay: USB audio adapter (with h-e-n, given that driver source exists) is your only way to get proper stere recording on N900. FMTX however is crap and prolly not suited for whatever you plan | 13:35 |
| pogay | thanks, I will make a bit research abut the driver, and how to get runnung that. | 13:36 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer51, why is fmtxd daemon needed for FM TX chip? | 13:37 |
| Pali | why we cannot use alsa (or pulseaudio)? | 13:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | Pali: good qustion | 13:40 |
| Pali | for changing frequency, etc, ... there is /dev/radio<N> interface (it is v4l2?) | 13:40 |
| Pali | so sound should go via alsa/pulseaudio driver | 13:41 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | Pali: javispedro claimed it should be possible to use FMTX without any CPU support | 13:41 |
| Pali | and I think alsa has some driver for v4l2 (how sound from tv works?) | 13:41 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | vi_: wtf? !(22) ?? | 13:42 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | doesn't compute | 13:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | ~22! | 13:42 |
| infobot | rumour has it, 22! is 1,124,000,727,777,607,680,000 | 13:42 |
| Pali | I really want to remove fmtxd nokia blob :-) | 13:43 |
| vi_ | ~3! | 13:47 |
| infobot | somebody said 3! was 6 | 13:47 |
| vi_ | ~9 | 13:47 |
| infobot | i guess 9 is less than 10. the standard port for DISCARD | 13:47 |
| vi_ | ~9! | 13:47 |
| infobot | 9! is, like, 362,880 | 13:47 |
| vi_ | ~9999999999999999! | 13:47 |
| vi_ | ? | 13:47 |
| jaska | haxor | 13:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | vi_: I can ask Tim to change te answer from NULL to FU! | 13:48 |
| vi_ | DocScrutinizer51: That would be good. | 13:48 |
| vi_ | ~(22/7)! | 13:49 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~6/0 | 13:49 |
| vi_ | DocScrutinizer51: already tries that one :p | 13:49 |
| vi_ | ~pi! | 13:50 |
| infobot | i heard pi is 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091 | 13:50 |
| vi_ | ~22/7! | 13:50 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~(21/7)! | 13:50 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | :shrug: | 13:51 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~(21/7) | 13:51 |
| infobot | 3 | 13:51 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~(21/7) ! | 13:51 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~(21/7) **2 | 13:51 |
| infobot | 9 | 13:51 |
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| vi_ | who has an otterbox for sale? | 13:52 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I guess 1! .. 50! are plain factoids | 13:52 |
| vi_ | orly? | 13:53 |
| vi_ | ~51! | 13:53 |
| infobot | 51! is, like, 1,551,118,753,287,382,280,224,243,016,469,303,211,063,259,720,016,986,112,000,000,000,000 | 13:53 |
| vi_ | ~9999! | 13:53 |
| vi_ | ~999! | 13:53 |
| infobot | ~999 | 13:53 |
| vi_ | ~100! | 13:53 |
| infobot | it has been said that 100! is 93,326,215,443,944,152,681,699,238,856,266,700,490,715,968,264,381,621,468,592,963,895,217,599,993,229,915,608,941,463,976,156,518,286,253,697,920,827,223,758,251,185,210,916,864,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 | 13:53 |
| vi_ | impressive | 13:53 |
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| vi_ | ~900! | 13:54 |
| infobot | 900 is, like, for all intents and purpose line rate | 13:54 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~factinfo 100! | 13:54 |
| infobot | 100! -- created by localhost <root@a1-3c045.neo.rr.com> at Tue Oct 30 14:38:54 2001 (4018 days); it has been requested 4 times, last by vi_, 29s ago. | 13:54 |
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| vi_ | I wonder what other great secrets infobot knows? | 13:54 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~factinfo 51! | 13:55 |
| infobot | 51! -- created by localhost <root@a1-3c045.neo.rr.com> at Tue Oct 30 14:30:01 2001 (4018 days); it has been requested 3 times, last by vi_, 1m 59s ago. | 13:55 |
| vi_ | infobot: if a woodchuck could chuck wood, how much wood would a would chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood? | 13:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~factinfo 5! | 13:55 |
| infobot | 5! -- created by NovaScorpio <pj@cc762687-a.sumt1.nj.home.com> at Mon Mar 6 02:35:17 2000 (4622 days); it has been requested 5 times, last by DocScrutinizer at Fri Mar 23 16:13:48 2012. | 13:55 |
| vi_ | yipes, 12 years ago! | 13:56 |
| vi_ | maybe infobot... | 13:56 |
| Pali | ~CRT | 13:56 |
| infobot | rumour has it, crt is (Cathode Ray Tube) This is one of the main components of monitors and TVs. A beam of electrons is shot towards the CRT and as they collide with phosphors on the inside surface, they produce light. Today, other technologies are performing better than the heavy and bulky tube monitors. LCD panels and projection units are both in contention, but they still can't come close to the low cost of a CRT monitor or TV. | 13:56 |
| vi_ | ...is becoming self aware? | 13:56 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~literal 5! | 13:56 |
| infobot | "5!" is "120" | 13:56 |
| vi_ | ~skynet | 13:56 |
| * infobot kicks skynets ass! | 13:56 | |
| Pali | ~wiki CRT | 13:56 |
| infobot | At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRT (URL), Wikipedia explains: "'CRT' may refer to: * Capillary refill time, the rate at with blood refills empty capillaries * Cognitive Retention Therapy, a dementia treatment * Cardiac resynchronization therapy, a treatment for heart failure ** CRT-D, an implanted cardiac resynchronization device * Corneal Refractive Therapy * Certified Respiratory Therapist, a respiratory therapist who works under the direction of ... | 13:56 |
| vi_ | n900 otterbox, I have never seen something dissappear from the net so hard. | 13:57 |
| Pali | hm CRT is also Chinese Remainder Theorem :-) | 13:57 |
| jaska | the otterbox was retconned | 13:58 |
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| vi_ | ~retconned? | 13:59 |
| vi_ | ~retconned | 13:59 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | try dict | 14:00 |
| vi_ | ~dict retconned | 14:01 |
| infobot | could not find definition for retconned | 14:01 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | though I doubt miriam webster knows | 14:01 |
| vi_ | or maybe someone could just say? | 14:01 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | nfc | 14:01 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~spell retconned | 14:01 |
| infobot | possible spellings for retconned: rescanned reckoned retained rejoined returned retrained regained betokened recount redound Redmond reattained reddened | 14:01 |
| jon_y | vi_: retconned means retroactively deleted | 14:02 |
| jon_y | retroactive continuity | 14:02 |
| jon_y | eg as if never existed | 14:02 |
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| vi_ | a glitch in the matrix! | 14:02 |
| jon_y | think comic book or movie "reboots" with characters removed | 14:02 |
| vi_ | 1984! | 14:02 |
| jon_y | or scenes changed | 14:02 |
| vi_ | n900 OB was sent to the memory hole! | 14:02 |
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| jon_y | vi_: actually, in 1984, it would be called an unperson | 14:04 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | infobot: retconned is <reply><jon_y>vi_: retconned means retroactively deleted. retroactive continuity. eg as if never existed. think comic book or movie "reboots" with characters removed | 14:05 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer51: okay | 14:05 |
| jon_y | hmm | 14:06 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~retconned | 14:07 |
| infobot | <jon_y>vi_: retconned means retroactively deleted. retroactive continuity. eg as if never existed. think comic book or movie "reboots" with characters removed | 14:07 |
| jon_y | DocScrutinizer51: actually, that is retgonned | 14:07 |
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| jon_y | retconned means history has changed | 14:07 |
| jon_y | does not imply disappearance or appearance | 14:07 |
| jon_y | retgone is more specific | 14:07 |
| jon_y | *more specific case | 14:08 |
| jon_y | retroactively changed the continuity or something like that | 14:08 |
| jon_y | DocScrutinizer51: gonna fix infobot? | 14:09 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | why don't you do? | 14:09 |
| jon_y | ok | 14:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | ~+help forget | 14:10 |
| infobot | If I have an old/redundant factoid x, "forget x" will cause me to erase it. | 14:10 |
| vi_ | infobot: forget vi_ | 14:10 |
| infobot | i didn't have anything called 'vi_' to forget, vi_ | 14:10 |
| jon_y | if retconned is <reply><jon_y> retroactive continuity. Continuity/history has changed to suit the present situation, as in changes in comic book and movie scene "reboots" | 14:11 |
| jon_y | infobot: retconned is <reply><jon_y> retroactive continuity. Continuity/history has changed to suit the present situation, as in changes in comic book and movie scene "reboots" | 14:11 |
| infobot | ...but retconned is already something else... | 14:11 |
| jon_y | infobot: forget retconned | 14:11 |
| infobot | jon_y: i forgot retconned | 14:11 |
| jon_y | infobot: retconned is <reply><jon_y> retroactive continuity. Continuity/history has changed to suit the present situation, as in changes in comic book and movie scene "reboots" | 14:11 |
| infobot | okay, jon_y | 14:11 |
| jon_y | ~retconned | 14:11 |
| infobot | <jon_y> retroactive continuity. Continuity/history has changed to suit the present situation, as in changes in comic book and movie scene "reboots" | 14:11 |
| jon_y | nice | 14:11 |
| jon_y | infobot: retgone is A more specific retconned, something went missing retroactively, such as with an unperson | 14:13 |
| infobot | jon_y: okay | 14:13 |
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| jon_y | roll a 1d20 to determine pop culture knowledge :) | 14:15 |
| vi_ | ~1d20 | 14:15 |
| infobot | You roll a 4 | 14:15 |
| vi_ | SWEET | 14:15 |
| vi_ | ~6d6+4 | 14:15 |
| vi_ | ~6d6 +4 | 14:16 |
| vi_ | ~(6d6)+4 | 14:16 |
| jon_y | 3d20 | 14:16 |
| jon_y | ~3d20 | 14:16 |
| vi_ | ~6d6 | 14:16 |
| jon_y | ~1d6 | 14:16 |
| infobot | You roll a 1 | 14:16 |
| jon_y | only 1 die | 14:16 |
| vi_ | ~1d9999999 | 14:16 |
| vi_ | ~1d99 | 14:16 |
| vi_ | ~1d30 | 14:17 |
| vi_ | ~1d20 | 14:17 |
| infobot | You roll a 18 | 14:17 |
| vi_ | ~d20 | 14:17 |
| infobot | 4 | 14:17 |
| vi_ | ~d20 | 14:17 |
| vi_ | ~literal d20 | 14:17 |
| infobot | "d20" is "<reply>( 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20)" | 14:17 |
| vi_ | ~literal d21 | 14:17 |
| vi_ | infobot: d21 d21 is <reply>( 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21) | 14:18 |
| infobot | vi_: okay | 14:18 |
| vi_ | ~d21 | 14:19 |
| vi_ | ~d21 | 14:19 |
| vi_ | bah | 14:19 |
| jon_y | ~forget retgone | 14:20 |
| infobot | jon_y: i forgot retgone | 14:20 |
| jon_y | infobot: retgone is A more specific retconned, something went missing retroactively, such as with an unperson or Trotsky | 14:20 |
| infobot | okay, jon_y | 14:20 |
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| vi_ | ~21! | 15:24 |
| infobot | 21! is, like, 51,090,942,171,709,440,000 | 15:24 |
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| vi_ | ~1d21 | 15:25 |
| MrPingu | tried all irc clients of maemo today :o | 15:26 |
| MrPingu | xchat is the only good, don't know why I didn't like it before | 15:27 |
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| jon_y | MrPingu: is it GUI? | 15:27 |
| MrPingu | jon_y: xchat is gui indeed | 15:28 |
| jon_y | I normally use irssi on my main machine, but n900 lacking a proper keyboard makes things hard | 15:28 |
| jon_y | also, irssi dau.pl :) | 15:28 |
| MrPingu | I tried irssi, it's nice but no perl script in the maemo version was going back to xchat | 15:29 |
| jon_y | put your own script | 15:29 |
| jon_y | just dump them in the script dir and load it | 15:29 |
| MrPingu | jon_y: perl module is not compiled for the maemo version, not much scripting left then... | 15:30 |
| jon_y | aww | 15:30 |
| jon_y | I guess xchat is OK | 15:31 |
| MrPingu | Luckily Docscrutinizer05 made it easy for configuring | 15:31 |
| MrPingu | DocScrutinizer05: what's that notify script on your userwiki? | 15:32 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | MrPingu: maybe before you hadn't my awesome settings for xchat? | 15:38 |
| MrPingu | Docscrutinizer05: probably | 15:38 |
| MrPingu | Still it needs some minor tweaking to my own taste, the color part only | 15:39 |
| jon_y | n900 needs to be at least 7 inches wide for irc :) | 15:41 |
| jon_y | that would be my killer app on tablets | 15:41 |
| jon_y | oh, also keyboard | 15:42 |
| MrPingu | jon_y: 7" doesnt fit well in my pocket | 15:42 |
| jon_y | get a manbag :) | 15:43 |
| jon_y | yeah, me neither | 15:43 |
| vi_ | irssi for win. | 15:43 |
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| jon_y | vi_: do you dau.pl? :) | 15:43 |
| MrPingu | vi_: it's nice but not as readable as this xchat | 15:44 |
| jon_y | what more do you need for irc other than a tty and a keyboard :) | 15:44 |
| jon_y | heh, telnet would be too hardcore | 15:45 |
| MrPingu | jon_y: trackbar.pl for example can't be used on maemo version | 15:45 |
| MrPingu | :( | 15:45 |
| jon_y | I use trackbar a lot | 15:46 |
| MrPingu | jon_y: on N900? | 15:46 |
| jon_y | well, never really used the maemo version irssi since I don't have 3G | 15:46 |
| jon_y | no, on Cygwin | 15:46 |
| jon_y | Cygwin is good for most part, but doesn't come close to a real linux machine | 15:47 |
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| quailstorm | Hello guys! | 16:17 |
| quailstorm | I would to ask you about backupmenu for multiBOOT | 16:18 |
| quailstorm | Is it possible to make it working with the latest multiBOOT? | 16:18 |
| quailstorm | Because there is ITEM_NAME tag in multiBOOT | 16:19 |
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| quailstorm | so the backupmenu entry boots maemo | 16:19 |
| quailstorm | [15:19] <quailstorm> Because there is ITEM_NAME tag in multiBOOT *** there is no ITEM_NAME tag in multiBOOT | 16:20 |
| quailstorm | I tried to use mido.fayad's one, but no success: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67866 | 16:21 |
| quailstorm | Erm again something went wrong. I mean there is no ITEM_SCRIPT | 16:21 |
| quailstorm | and that's the correct one | 16:22 |
| quailstorm | Because Backupmenu.item uses ITEM_SCRIPT to load BackupMenuLauncher.item, but this function was removed from multiBOOT | 16:23 |
| MrPingu | ~multiboot | 16:24 |
| infobot | i heard multiboot is http://maemo.org/packages/view/multiboot/ | 16:24 |
| MrPingu | quailstorm: guess you will need u-boot | 16:24 |
| quailstorm | and a microSD card | 16:25 |
| jon_y | also, u-boot doesn't try to trash your nolo every boot | 16:25 |
| quailstorm | If I had a microSD, I wouldn't like to use multiBOOT | 16:25 |
| quailstorm | it drains battery | 16:25 |
| MrPingu | multiboot is an dirty hack | 16:25 |
| MrPingu | does u-boot actually *need* sd? | 16:26 |
| jon_y | it drains? how? | 16:26 |
| jon_y | not really | 16:26 |
| jon_y | you can put your kernel in MyDocs | 16:26 |
| quailstorm | I know the disadvantages of multiBOOT, but I want to manage dual booting maemo5, and NITdroid on the same partition plus I would like to have backupmenu | 16:26 |
| quailstorm | multiBOOT drains battery | 16:26 |
| jon_y | how? | 16:27 |
| quailstorm | I used u-boot | 16:27 |
| quailstorm | until I repartitioned the nand | 16:27 |
| MrPingu | Nand? Don't you mean eMMC? | 16:27 |
| quailstorm | When multiBOOT reflashes the kernel on boot, it takes abou 20~30% | 16:27 |
| quailstorm | yes I mean eMMC | 16:27 |
| quailstorm | nand is ROOTFS? | 16:27 |
| MrPingu | nand = rootfs indeed | 16:28 |
| jon_y | 20~30%! | 16:28 |
| jon_y | that is a killer | 16:28 |
| MrPingu | eMMC is home, opt and MyDocs | 16:28 |
| jon_y | you sure kernel flashing takes that much power? | 16:28 |
| quailstorm | I gave /home /opt 9GB becuse of NITdroid and webOS games | 16:29 |
| quailstorm | I used gparted | 16:29 |
| quailstorm | and backupmenu | 16:29 |
| quailstorm | Now u-boot doesn't work | 16:29 |
| jon_y | have you tried pali's latest? | 16:29 |
| quailstorm | Yes I'm sure, u-boot loads the kernel, multiBOOT flashes it into the kernel area | 16:29 |
| quailstorm | No I haven't | 16:30 |
| quailstorm | but I don't want to brick again | 16:30 |
| jon_y | worked for my funny 2204 | 16:30 |
| jon_y | you can't brick an n900 with uboot | 16:30 |
| quailstorm | also, I would like to use android autoinstaller | 16:30 |
| quailstorm | but If I can't load an OS | 16:30 |
| jon_y | at most, you'd just reflash your previous kernel | 16:30 |
| quailstorm | it's bad | 16:30 |
| quailstorm | yes you're right | 16:31 |
| quailstorm | But sometimes it wasn't enough... | 16:31 |
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| jon_y | what do you mean it wasn't enough? | 16:31 |
| quailstorm | So, is it possible to use this http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67866 with the latest multiBOOT? | 16:32 |
| quailstorm | I had to reflash the phone | 16:32 |
| quailstorm | All partitions | 16:33 |
| jon_y | sorry, I use u-boot exclusively | 16:33 |
| jon_y | 20-30% battery per flash AND killing your flash on each boot | 16:36 |
| jon_y | wow, not sure why multiboot is even considered to be safe for use | 16:36 |
| MrPingu | jon_y: actually I have it installed | 16:36 |
| * MrPingu is ashamed though | 16:37 | |
| jon_y | how is it taking up to 20% for flashing the kernel? | 16:37 |
| jon_y | shouldn't it take only a few seconds? | 16:37 |
| MrPingu | takes aprox 10 sec max | 16:37 |
| MrPingu | though I never switch kernels | 16:38 |
| MrPingu | It's just my device needs reflash | 16:38 |
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| MrPingu | but don't to do it yet :P | 16:39 |
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| MrPingu | DocScrutinizer51: how to use that notify schript for xchat? | 16:40 |
| MrPingu | can't seem to figure out how to get notifications for highlighted messages like normal IM-notification | 16:41 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | MrPingu: place it into same .xchat2 dir, one of the other config files will refer to it | 16:43 |
| merlin1991 | MrPingu: doesn't xchat even have a module that does that stuff? | 16:44 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | (actually it's called as audio player in notifications) | 16:44 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | merlin1991: that module sucks | 16:44 |
| MrPingu | Merlin1991: yes but doesnt vibrate, no led | 16:44 |
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| jon_y | DocScrutinizer51: any idea what ITEM_MODULES does in uboot? | 16:46 |
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| peetah | is there a way to properly halt the n900 from u-boot ? | 16:48 |
| quailstorm | nevermind my questions | 16:48 |
| quailstorm | I forgot to use mido.fayad's modified multiBOOT | 16:49 |
| quailstorm | it works! | 16:49 |
| MrPingu | Can someone mention me? :P hope notification works | 16:49 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | jon_y: sorry, nope | 16:49 |
| teotwaki | MrPingu: test | 16:50 |
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| MrPingu | ehm no vibrate | 16:51 |
| MrPingu | again? | 16:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | MrPingu: in xchat setting under highlights you set the saound to play and you also set the player. The player is the notifier script | 16:53 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | it in turn sends a dbus msg to MCE to kick the vibrator | 16:54 |
| MrPingu | Yes i did | 16:54 |
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| MrPingu | but somehow it fails to vibrate and make sound | 16:54 |
| jon_y | DocScrutinizer51: ok | 16:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | you're running xchat as root maybe? | 16:55 |
| MrPingu | no | 16:55 |
| MrPingu | from the desktop icon | 16:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | you have set profile silent? | 16:55 |
| MrPingu | no | 16:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | strange then | 16:55 |
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| MrPingu | led worked | 16:56 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I'll check the scripts when back home (now + 1.5h) | 16:56 |
| MrPingu | I believe the script is fine | 16:56 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | well, LED is not even used by my script | 16:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | see | 16:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | ~jrtools | 16:57 |
| infobot | hmm... jrtools is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools | 16:57 |
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| MrPingu | waat, maybe the original xchat plug-in is action up? | 16:59 |
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| MrPingu | brb | 17:00 |
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| peetah | ok so here is my situation: reboot loop, flash mode inaccessible (whether u is pressed or not, it goes right to the u-boot menu), and I guess my battery is quiet discharged now... what can I do ? | 17:05 |
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| peetah | s/quiet/quite/ | 17:06 |
| infobot | peetah meant: ok so here is my situation: reboot loop, flash mode inaccessible (whether u is pressed or not, it goes right to the u-boot menu), and I guess my battery is quite discharged now... what can I do ? | 17:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | charge battery externally | 17:16 |
| MrPingu | back | 17:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | MrPingu: yep, sounds like original plugin. check jrtools, also comment there | 17:17 |
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| MrPingu | Indeed, I did. Mind saying my name again? :P | 17:20 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | MrPingu: | 17:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | MrPingu: | 17:20 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | MrPingu: | 17:20 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | MrPingu: | 17:20 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | MrPingu: :-D | 17:20 |
| MrPingu | dang, nothing | 17:21 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | the highlight options in xchat are rather finegrained and cryptic | 17:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | MrPingu: does it highlight lines like this one at least? | 17:23 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | guess: you haven't set 'chmod +x .xchatw/notifier.sh' | 17:24 |
| peetah | DocScrutinizer51: thanks :( don't have any charger or anyone with a compliant phone around me | 17:24 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | xchat tries to execute that | 17:25 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | peetah: bad luck | 17:25 |
| MrPingu | woah, of course | 17:25 |
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| MrPingu | Do I need to define the sounds? | 17:27 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | well, my files already use a click | 17:28 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | otherwise - yes. | 17:28 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | you need to pass existing .wav to the notifier.sh | 17:29 |
| MrPingu | guess that's in sounds.conf? | 17:30 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | /usr/share/sounds/chat-msg_in_bg_2.wav | 17:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | script does play-sound /usr/share/sounds/chat-msg_in_bg_2.wav then | 17:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | should be pre-configured in one of my xchat config files | 17:33 |
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| MrPingu | I have to admit, I kinda mix my own config with yours ;) | 17:35 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | np with that. just make sure you don't miss relevant bits | 17:36 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | diff might help | 17:37 |
| MrPingu | No but where does xchat save it's config of those sounds? | 17:37 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | in notifications.cfg or sth like that | 17:38 |
| MrPingu | I can't find it back in xchat.conf | 17:38 |
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| MrPingu | notify.conf empty | 17:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | sound.conf | 17:39 |
| MrPingu | empty too | 17:39 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | not mine | 17:39 |
| MrPingu | dafuq | 17:39 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | check the files in jrtools/../xchat | 17:40 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | they're all for .xchat2/ | 17:40 |
| MrPingu | Well you know what, just screw my own config | 17:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | actually my sound.conf is 0 too | 17:41 |
| MrPingu | I will go with yours and finetune them | 17:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | good idea | 17:41 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | just cope them away | 17:41 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | copy | 17:41 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | then you can do a diff | 17:42 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | and edit what you think needs edit | 17:42 |
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| MrPingu | Username ^^ | 17:48 |
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| RST38h | MEANWHILE: Spider experts working in Brazil have discovered nine new species of pink, purple and orange mini tarantulas | 17:55 |
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| MrPingu | WTF | 18:05 |
| MrPingu | Now after I mv'ed it away, | 18:05 |
| MrPingu | closed xchat | 18:05 |
| MrPingu | reopen with your config, now sound.conf is full with settings of previous sxchat session | 18:06 |
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| kerio | vi_: i bought it on amazon | 18:15 |
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| slops17 | hey all | 19:32 |
| slops17 | is there a way to clone the maemo repo and create a local repo in house? | 19:33 |
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| Shapeshifter | I remember there was a page where one could see the number of downloads of a package in extra/testing/devel etc. I can't seem to find it. | 19:34 |
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| Shapeshifter | And I remember them to be more detailed than what maemo.org/download-stats2/ produces | 19:36 |
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| Shapeshifter | nevermind, I got it. http://maemo.dadablog.net/AppStats.php | 19:37 |
| merlin1991 | slops17: yes it is | 19:46 |
| merlin1991 | Pali where was the wiki page again with all the details? | 19:47 |
| Pali | what wiki page? | 19:47 |
| slops17 | merlin1991: how can i do it? | 19:48 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: the one with all the repo urls | 19:50 |
| Pali | https://wiki.maemo.org/Apt-mirror | 19:50 |
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| kerio | hm, this fake sandisk class 2 is happily writing zeroes sequentially at 7MB/s | 19:50 |
| merlin1991 | slops17: see https://wiki.maemo.org/Apt-mirror | 19:50 |
| ShadowJK | kerio; fake? | 19:51 |
| slops17 | merlin1991: thanks | 19:51 |
| kerio | ShadowJK: the sandisk logo is not like it should be | 19:51 |
| ShadowJK | oh | 19:52 |
| ShadowJK | 7M/s write from sandisk class2 wouldn't surprise me though | 19:52 |
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| FIQ | ok, this doesn't make any sense | 23:22 |
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| FIQ | just tried to play around with backupmenu to see what I could do | 23:23 |
| FIQ | tried to erase the entire optFS (there wasn't anything important there anyway) just to see if it worked | 23:23 |
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| FIQ | it did... for some reason | 23:23 |
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